Anyone else a virgin because your pride refuses to let you to validate woman by approaching them first and playing...

Anyone else a virgin because your pride refuses to let you to validate woman by approaching them first and playing their stupid mind games?

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No its cause im ugly af my friend

This, but since I like traps/MtF's more than women it's kinda because I despise the one-sided attraction that occurs with those fuckers. I feel like the second I even attempt to speak to one I am classified as an orbiter and I hate that feeling so I never both. But yeah, the same applies to women as well since I do like them as well.

I"m not a virgin as I had a gf walk up and ask me out back in HS that I dated for two years, but, I've not had sex in ten years basically due to what you describe OP.

I don't abide double standards, and believe in actual equality, why I'm an anti-feminist and a communist.

I'm a virgin because i dont want or let other people to be close with me. Sex is pretty close and intimate thing so figure it out.
t. 25 khv

slave morality
you don't have what it takes to play the game so you delude yourself into thinking it's honorably to not play

So if I approach you first you will sleep with me?

I orbited a trap once. It was weird because its a mix of attraction but also just like interacting with a guy friend, so I didn't feel bad about giving xer attention.

Honestly dude just give it up, traps are just male roasties. If you're not cute like them or have a big dick you have 0 chance. And you better not like penis lol

Yup.
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Nice digits

is this loss ? you are the slave playing an unfair game in which you are a bottom feeder
being this delusional

keep telling yourself that faggot, ive fucked multiple girls who made the effort to talk to me first, and my current girlfriend initiated it all too.

i don't play the game but i don't pretend it's my choice

Next trap i encounter i might have the inclination to beat the ever living shit out of that faggot. Just for being such a prude. Thx for enlightening me on what they are like.

>just be yourself and girls will approach you
t-thanks Chad.

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Nice you fucking faggot have (you) and fuck of

Not all of us are delusional neckbeards.

You get it. I get IOIs all the time, my friends (and mom) pick up on it more than I do because I purposely ignore woman. I don't play because I know what woman are thinking, they lure you in but in a way that allows them to retain plausible deniability, then they can size you up, judge you, and string you along with 10 others guys and make you jump through sentient flaming spiked hoops just to get sex.

>I know what woman are thinking, they lure you in but in a way that allows them to retain plausible deniability, then they can size you up, judge you, and string you along with 10 others guys and make you jump through sentient flaming spiked hoops just to get sex.
>This is what actually think

you have no idea what they think. you're just an insecure virgin is all

sorry m8 not my fault you lost the genetic lotto

if you're not a fucking pussy then the 10 other guys don't matter. because you know you're the best choice. if you don't know it then just act like it.

That's awesome, honestly good for you. I wish I had that kind of gravitational pull, but I'm one of the poor saps who has to work for his meal.

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No its not your fault, so why are you sorry you fucking retard?

it's called pity dumbfuck

>Next trap i encounter i might have the inclination to beat the ever living shit out of that faggot

lol don't do that. Just stop now, its not worth it. Look at all these fags orbiting and obsessing over this man faced spic who hates every single one of them. Its pathetic.

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You are one dishonest piece of shit, i can tell that much right away.
Whats it like being a hypocrite?

yeah well from my experience if you have a negative view of women and dating you're only going to put forth that energy into the world and it's going to manifest in your life. it's more about attitude and personality than about looks, money, or status. honestly.

Yeah attitude and personality...

is there any purpose behind your whiny faggotry?

>it's more about attitude and personality than about looks, money, or status. honestly.

You must be straight up retarded.

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>refuse to validate woman
>play their stupid mind games
having this kind of attitude is self defeating user. it doesn't mean you can magically fuck any woman if you abandon it, but if you have these ideas about women and the associated expectations then you're setting yourself up for failure

>attitude and personality

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no you inbred nigger i just have first hand experience with women and am trying to clue you in on it too. havent you ever seen a hot girl with an ugly guy? even once? now how many average girls with an ugly guy? use your fucking noggin you mouth breather

Yeah i might still kick the shit out of one of those arrogant faggots so long as i can get away with it. One time i saw this really effeminate boi with long black hair and he even had hips like wtf? I 'll say he was maybe around 13 -14 ish?
But anyway im just walking down the side walk and as soon as he see's me he makes this frowning face like he was repulsed by me or something and i didnt even say anything or gesture towards him or anything. Like he made this expression and then quickly ducked into the doorway of a nearyby building. I was downtown so i dont think it was his house or anything i dont know maybe he was just out partying with friends or whatever. Little faggot must have assumed i was going to try to talk to him or something but the face he made made me feel pretty awful. Because of this incident, now i want to hurt somebody

>Anyone else a virgin because your pride refuses
stopped reading right there. Im a virgin not because of a stupid pride or something. im virgin because i never tried. i never tried because im a friendless loser so tell me how am i gonna get some fug if i barely know a girl?

Nah, you just annoy the fuck outta me is all. We dont care if you fuck whores it's only because they like your fucking face, it just confirms how shallow and vapid you people are. You can like fuck off and browse instagram right now and i find it funny that you choose to lurk this sort of website? Why? Does it gratify you in some way?

>havent you ever seen a hot girl with an ugly guy?

Definitely. My best friend actually, but I also see the hell he has to go through to keep her satisfied. That first approach is the beginning of the end, they immediately have power over you and set the pace, and from there its just playing game after game for pussy.

I'm 28 and I've been on Jow Forums since I was 18.

Dont become like me boys

>Anyone else a virgin because your pride refuses to let you to validate woman by approaching them first and playing their stupid mind games?
You are playing the same mind game.

Your mind = blown

you don't even know what i look like, you're literally arguing against an imaginary stand in character that you hate by default. i don't have instagram or facebook or twitter or whatever other gay shit people use to socially masturbate online. i come to Jow Forums simply because its anonymous and it has all the fucked up deranged stuff I've enjoyed since i was a preteen. and im mid twenties now. the reason i come onto these threads specifically is because i used to think like you guys, and i realize how fucking ass backwards it is. so if i could shatter your fucking retarded idea of reality then im happy. and you have reiko faggots on here turning you pathetic bastards into traps but im the enemy? fuck off. get over your victim mentality

that sucks dude. I've been with girls like that and they aren't worth it. that's a legitimate reason to deny a girl on the basis of pride

Ok you are right. I see you are more ernest then i gave you credit for, i guess. But then you say shit like you lost the genetic lottery and you bash us for being ugly which isnt something we can do anything about. So now i still think you are full of shit. What helpful advice have you given?

The difference is I'm not making googly eyes trying to entice a woman to approach me.

do post what you look like

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that was just some shit talk, i figured throwing the "m8" in there would make it more obvious. it's not just about advice, it's about the realization that the outcomes of your life are largely dependent on your attitudes. the paradigms that you frame your beliefs with. if you have shitty expectations about women then every microtransgression gets completely overblown and every good thing gets downplayed. there's no magic formula but having a crappy attitude just makes life even harder than it should be. either way its hard though

elliot rodgers is a decent example of the money, looks, status vs attitude and personality point. elliot was fucking loaded (money), looked normal (looks), was the son of a huge movie director (status). he went to a fucking meme party college where getting laid is basically a guarantee and yet got not a single girl gave him the succ. why? its because he had crazy fuckin ideas about women and had insane expectations about them too

Ok so change of attitude is the jist of your point. Kinda hard to formulate a positive attitude when you have had numerous bad experiences of women calling you ugly as fuck and you havent even said a word or made a motion towards them. Could just be going about your day and you happen to inevitably pass by a woman and she goes "eeww" and frowns her fucking face as if she were looking at dog shit. That kind of stuff really REALLY sticks with you, especially if it has happened on more then a few occasions. So how the fuck to i cultivate a positive attitude towards someone so hostile? How can i NOT become viscious and bitter?

thats fucked up user but its not impossible to come back from experiences like that. it might help to realize the kind of women who do that are shallow cunts who deserve the rope. i think the biggest problem tho is generalizing to all women from the actions of those retarded few. and i know the feeling of rejection (especially unwarranted rejection) sticks with you because roasties have done it to me too. but let the chads deal with those stacies. they're their own special kind of living nightmare, which if you think about it, it's only right that chads should have to deal with those cunts. the truth is that there are normal girls out there, and they're just as jaded as guys are, because they have to deal with sex-crazed chads and edgy faggots. a well rounded guy is a rarity, and yes i know stacies don't want a well rounded guy but we shouldnt give a fuck about what they want anyway. we have to appeal to our target audience. thats why an attitude change can actually be effective. more coming in next post

Yeah.
And it worked.
Was chatting in some public chatroom I remembered from times when things were still good
I was roasting a dumb roastie going "u don't know my story" bullshit
A highly intelligent semen demon approached me in PMs because being having some decent fucking awareness attracted her, and my look was exactly her type.
She hit me up with the intention "I'VE GOT TO GET THIS GUY", and since I considered her my type too, I let her do so, and played along.

Things went out amazing, man. She dumped me, but I don't even feel bad about it, she didn't dump me for another dude and we still text a lot.
Felt the embrace of love, and she didn't manipulate me or lie to me for a second. I was being completely honest and kindhearted to her, and stated that that's my attitude, so she repaid me with the same.

There's good women out there and for the first time, I didn't have to find her, she found me.
It was a life-changing experience. Not the sex. Not the love. Knowing there's women out there who care about others too.
It washes all womanhate outta your mind in an instant once you were in love with a non-roastie.

And anyways I GOT LAID U FUKKIN LOSERS HAHAHAHAHAHA
GET REKT
CHECK OUT MY CHAD SKILLS U FREAKIN INSECTS
Also, what did you just say to me, you little bitch? I'll have you know I got over 300 confirmed kills and so on

>women
>non-roastie

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Nah. Just a virgin because my pride doesn't let me lose my virginity to a girl who has already had sex before meeting me.
I blame my autistic highschool past self. I don't know why the fuck I wasted so much time trying to get good grades when I could have slacked off and still got fairly high grades.
God fucking dammit now I'm mad at myself again. Could have lost my vcard as early as middle school, but nooo I had to be a goody two shoes and impress mommy with a 95 average.

the next biggest problem i think is the sex obsession that's imposed upon us by society. im not sure if its a social thing or a biological imperative but either way it's destructive. men shouldnt rate their worthiness by their ability to engage in sex. and men shouldn't be so cucked as to bend over backwards or be a woman's bitch just for sex. it's not worth it. sex is fun but it's insanely overhyped and porn gives a really unrealistic view of it. so every person who hasn't had sex feels bad about it but honestly its not a big deal. its better to not be a promiscuous piece of shit anyway. sex should be sacred, intimate. guys who are talking to women with the goal of fucking are already missing the point. you should work on just literally being a friend to a girl. they're people too. if you just be friends with one girl with no sexual interest whatsoever you can do it with another. and another. until you are comfortable enough talking to them and dont feel sexual pressure. sex and relationships are a skill. you wouldn't start off relationships with sex just like you wouldnt start off math with calculus. and the people who did fuck in their teens and youth are genuinely worse off for it. so i guess just dont be so focused on sex because it's actually counterproductive

no it's just that i am anxious and uninterested in initiating conversation (which is also why i don't have many male friends), and i really don't want to have casual sex, i want to be with that one person forever

Told ya it's a lifechanging experience
She legit cares about how I or her friends feel, otherwise, I wouldn't have stuck my dick in her.

My emotional being is weirdly traditionalist.
I feel disgusted by a woman if she isn't considerate and thoughtful
And stupidity/literal retardation turns me off

Narcisist scum Get off my board

if women dont give you clear INDICATORS OF INTEREST youre just ugly.

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Womyns look for smart, sensitive guys, if by games you mean pretend to be sensitive, you got the problem! Yes many are into money, but let me tell you, to many womyns, they will choose an huggly fun sensitive guy prior. This obsession of guys to absolutelly loose their virginity to fit in sucks! Talking about games! Do u all so need a g/f to prove yourself worth as men? I guive it to you, yes society is that sick as to convince you of this, most specificly in high school! We grow up being asked everyday, is this your guirl friend, is this your boy friend!? With a chuckle and pride rising of parents saying my baby so cute, hes gona be such a heart braker! Hence those who succeed at full filling their parents dreams are sick fucks, those who dont succeed becomes also sick fucks obsessing into it! Mean while, none of both will stand more then a 10%chance of knowing true love. The successfull cathegorie most of, will likelly mary a high image guirl or mary for work or just spend their all life in empty fucks, the other part, will most likelly be here complaing about other gender not wanting them shut into the incel room as per the 10%who will successfully know true love, they will be from both sides who broke free from that feel of being in a relashionship only to lose their virginity, or to be with anyone at all cost even false pretence of love or for social status. These 10%love with their heart when the time is right, do not feel pressured and guive the unconditional love they so claim.

I'm just looking out for my own self interest. Its a trap that woman lay to gain power over you. Whoever approaches first is essentially signing a contract that says "I'm worthy of you, if I prove to be unworthy, everything is my fault."

Its a game bro.

Im a virgin cuz I don't meet enough people.
When I talk to people, the only girls who reach out to me already have caring bf's who make them happy
im introverted and I just don't meet ENOUGH girls, even in a fucking college town with 3 girls to 1 guy
Im too happy with myself, I look ok, I can entertain myself when a conversation gets boring. Im almost my own fucking girlfriend for god sakes.
I just need to lose my virginity and fuck one slut so that everyone around me can stop hanging it over my head.
My retarded sister says Im not even an adult until I have sex. This is obviously horseshit, and I should never have to prove a point to a fucking bimbo drug addict,
but it would also be nice if the people I actually care about stop giving me pity 24/7.

So how do I do it? Ive got the confidence, Ive got a decent look, but im just barely not old enough to drink in public. So where the single girls at?

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>My retarded sister says Im not even an adult until I have sex. This is obviously horseshit

Yes. I always rejected the idea that you had to have sex to be a man. So many loser deadbeat dads around me, and you're telling me they are better men than me? No way.

>I get IOIs all the time, my friends (and mom) pick up on it more than I do
>mom
oh boy user. i wish my mom didn't lie to me as well

Mom, maybe, but my friends have no need to lie.

>that girl was looking at you bruh
>yeah? (whatever)