Why some men dislike the idea of marrying a woman just because she is not a virgin?.
I would date her in a second, I do nott want someone who is inexperienced. I amm getting to old for all of the training BS so I would take an expert over a dumb rookie any day.
I would not buy an open bag of chips.
Especially not after someone came in it
A few reasons
>1. Virgin women have the most successful marriages and the lowest divorce rate
>2. The idea of another man having sex with a women you're interested in repluses some people.
>3. They value virginity. Having sex with someone who you don't plan on being in a long term relationship with is reckless for reason 1
Ehh roasties are more like a piece of chewed gum that you would find under the seat of a public bus.
>Why would some men not want a woman who has been cummed inside, cummed upon, or has been degraded by other men?
I don't know OP. Beats me.
get with the times grandpa, thots are unappreciated and their value is tanking.
You wouldn't buy a TV that someone cummed on. Why a woman?
This.
I use the open bag of chips analogy because you never know how many people stuck their hands in it.
Now that i think about it your analogy is probably better since noone would rechew chewed gum, maybe a good comprimise would be the gross bowl of peanuts a pub would have.
NO HYMEN NO DIAMOND ROASTIE WHOREEE
Dont forget emotional involvement. Just like you remember the first fap.
Because she's more likely to cheat and/or the marriage to be a failure. It's really simple, the more guys a girl has been with the less likely you are to be the best one of them, and if you aren't the best then she'll have settled down which is a problem for women. Even if she wasn't with that many before you, can you be sure you still are the best? Because when things get tough sometimes like they do in a relationship, or you're away on work, or you're "not taking care of her needs", she's going to remember and reminisce and fantasize about the other guys, the one(s) better than you, whichever guy in her past was "the best". And hell even if you are her best, the other guys can still be appealing for how they were "different" and you can't be everything. It's even worse in this day and age with instant communication of phones and internet, where now women can not only remember and imagine their exes, but they can still keep in contact with them. Imagine you're with a girl (but aren't "her best") and you're both happy but have a fight and things are cold for like a week. Do you really feel comfortable with the idea of her during that time, imagining good times she had with her best and being able to contact him?
I mean that's basically what it boils down to, a man's concern about not being the best for his woman. Both for his own self-respect and confidence of his masculinity, and also because of her fidelity and feeling assured of it. She may "love" you but does she love you as much as she did "him"? I think the thing women don't get, is that this shit is fundamentally bothering to a man, at least any normal man. Beta cucks don't count.
For a girl who is a virgin or at least inexperienced, sure she can still fantasize or imagine about other men but if you're all she knows then not only do you have no competition and can know for sure that you're her best, but also she's less likely to risk things with you and cheat or endanger the relationship.
Same reason I wouldn't pay for a bottle of juice that someone else drank out of already.
Imagine a nice tasty sandwich, all the stuff you like in it. You're presented this sandwich and you're going to eat it. Wouldn't you feel better knowing that no one fucked your sandwich?
Muh experience meme is just that, a meme.
Don't let an ugly saggy yogurt lady fool you into 50% of your shit cuz muh dick experience. Find a nice lady who doesn't rely on experience, relationships are not a job interview.
Don't forget came inside of
Any guy who actually bases whether or not he marries a girl entirely on how well she fucks is retarded and deserves to have his shit taken by some vile roastie.
I really love those tits, who's that?
>there are men that would rather have a whore that has had God only knows how many dicks in her mouth, ass, pussy, armpits, legpits, hair over a virgin girl that has had sex with no one but you, only knows you, has extreme emotional attachment to only you, wants to be impregnated by only you, live the rest of her life with only you
prostitutes have a lot of experience want to date them?
Basically, tl;dr, whoever you are, there's always someone better than you. Even if you're Chad. And the more guys a girl has been with, the more the chances are that she was with a guy better than you. And if you're ok with your woman fantasizing about some stunning adonis Brazilian helicopter rescue pilot who used to fuck her and she let do the weird sexual things to her that she won't let you do to her, then you're a cuck.
All of this is made worse given that there's a biological component to it all in women, with oxytocin, or is it oxycodone? Either one, it's one of the "love" hormones, and like what happens when a woman gives birth and breastfeeds; her body and brain floods with the hormones, causing strong feelings of love and connection with the baby. It's basically one of the main reasons mothers love so deely and are so attached to their children.
Well guess what? The same thing happens when a woman orgasms or at least gets sexual stimulation, her body and brain flood with the exact same hormones to make her fall in love and feel devoted to the guy doing that to her. It's why women almost always tend to have a special feeling and a soft spot for their first guy, even if he's just some ex in a line of guys. And the more men a woman does this with, the more her body gets used to the flood of chemicals, and the less of effect it has on her. So if you're her first and you settle down and get married, rather than just a fling or one night stand? She's going to fucking love you and feel devoted to you till you die. If you're her tenth guy though... those feelings are faded and you're just not as special to her, not like her first guy was. In a messed up way, kind of the same for kids and how usually the firstborn is the favorite. She may love all her kids, but the more she has the more used to those hormones she gets.
Virgin girls are clingy and i dont like clingy girls.
>Having sex with someone who you don't plan on being in a long term relationship with is reckless for reason 1
since when does corralation equal causation, do you really think that some magical bullshit just spills out of a female when someone cums in her for the first time
it's more reasonable to say that it's a difference in additude/upbringing.
a "pure christian" who will actively avoid devorce VS someone who has her (and possibly/probably your) best interest in mind when concidering devorce
Virgin girls have plenty of drawbacks though.
welp it was fun guys but OP got his leftypol discord buddies to defend muh lady's honor. Probably more on the way if they can figure out how to get here.
Because when you marry her she Will never see you as Chad who she had sex with on the forest or on the car in her teenage year s she Will see you as someone whos life is as complete as hers sexually and Will use your for your betabux
If not wanting wasted goods makes me a toxic evil male then fine I Will die as such
>do you really think that some magical bullshit just spills out of a female when someone cums in her for the first time
Do you actually think there is no emotional change in a person when they have sex for the first time?
If so, you're a fucking retard.
the fuck happened to her titty?
Love doesn't exist it's just chemicals in the air.
And the quantity of those chemicals released changes when you have sex for the first time.
Nowhere near as many as non-virgin girls.
Like what? What are these drawbacks?
Nah. Everything is best in moderation.
There's a reason you're not naming said drawbacks.
Anyone with a brain knows that non-virgin girls have tons more baggage than your typical virgin girl.
Unfulfilling sex life which is a relationship killer.
Stunted in their personal growth, probably crippling anxiety.
Extreme views.
Most likely a boring, bland personality.
>muh experience
Why do normies always say this shit? Its a EXTREMELY MINOR PRO (good sex from the get go) that comes with a APOCALYPTIC CON (the woman is incapable of pair bonding due to too many sexual partners and your relationship is doomed)
You can both gain exp at the same time and level up, it doesn't take long and your relationship wont fall apart because the woman is actually able to feel love for you and pair bond.
>Unfulfilling sex life which is a relationship killer.
Sex lives die even with roastie non-virgins.
>Stunted in their personal growth, probably crippling anxiety.
All women are stunted and most have crippling anxiety.
>Extreme views.
Not a bad thing, in fact a woman with conviction in her views is a fucking top tier keeper.
>Most likely a boring, bland personality.
99% of women are boring and bland regardless of how many dicks they've taken.
Keep trying.
>Sex lives die even with roastie non-virgins.
Better than being dead from the get go.
No, not really, because when they die later on you lose 20 years and half your shit as opposed to just not marrying the virgin if it's such a dealbreaker.
But, retards like you deserve to lose their shit, here's hoping that when some roastie does fuck up your life later on you'll do the world a favor and kill yourself.
But not her, she needs to trap more idiots like yourself so they can also kill themselves.
>Unfulfilling sex life which is a relationship killer.
Not extremely sexual so I'm good.
>Stunted in their personal growth, probably
I am too
>crippling anxiety.
That's cute. Way better than being an obnoxious whore.
>Extreme views.
Not necessarily unless you consider traditional views extreme.
>Most likely a boring, bland personality
That's most women. Getting wasted and having sex with a bunch of guys is not an exciting personality trait.
i aint here to defend anyone, just like pointing out probable faults in people's reasoning and proposing alternatives
i am left leaning tough
off course some change would happen, but only being able to succesfully bond with one male would have been stupid in the wild
i would guess that a mental sunk costs fallacy would also be relevant
plus stats like pic related exist
I'm probably not marrying my first gf and I want to lose myvirginity to a virgin. I won't date a slut before I lose my virginity but who knows if I'll ever get married at all. If I do get married theres a chance it could be with someone experienced, but hopefully they will only be as experienced as me.
>roasties only develop a personality when gang banged by Tyrese and Muhammad
Who the fuck is talking about marriage retard?
>but only being able to succesfully bond with one male would have been stupid in the wild
Are you retarded?
Women aren't men, they can't just go around hopping from partner to partner, they need a mate to protect them considering they're effectively incapacitated for anywhere from 1 to 4 years while birthing and raising a child.
Without a partner that can defend you and your child in the wild a woman is fucked, especially if she's pregnant and alone.
I get it for religious reasons, or if you're someone who really feels sex is sacred. I don't subscribe to that philosophy, but I respect it.
Of course, most people here are atheist/agnostic and regularly abuse themselves to futa scalie vore. They just hate themselves; are insecure; are terrified of being compared to men they know are better; don't believe anyone could ever love them; and hate the prospect of a woman having a modicum of control, experience, say, or choice.
Anyway, I probably wouldn't go for a chick who has made sex a huge part of her life (fetlife account or something), or dated tons of dudes because that level of impulsivity betrays mental incompetence. But a smart, nice woman who has had a couple of rewarding sexual relationships? Hey, same here. Would love somebody like myself in that regard.
What do you mean left leaning.
Left leaning could mean anywhere from traditional liberal with mixed economic and social policies to Stalin 2 electric boogaloo.
The OP you fucking moron.
Try reading next time, maybe you'd be less of a retard if you did.
All things equal (appearance, age, personality, etc.), would you prefer a virgin or woman with a "couple of rewarding sexual relationships"?
what happened to her boobie
Well here is my non-meme reason. I believe that sexual intercouse is the ultimate way to express love in a physical manner. You are as close to each other as humanly possible it it is the way in which new life, something that is a part of both of you is born. As soon as any person has sex outside of love, for the purpose of pleasure, the ability for sex to be an expression of love is lost and it becomes an act of hedonism. It is no longer some sacred bond you and your lover share and no longer is there any feeling of exclusivity in the act with you are mine and I am yours. For women who have had sex out of love in the past but not outside of it the trouble is you will never be her first. You will always be the second person she loved.
>women need to get dicked by dozens of men to have a fulfilling sex life and develop a personality
I'm sure the feminist views they gather in their pursuit to rationalize their whorish behavior are totally not extreme views.
>black and white thinking
Original retard.
You're the retard who thinks that a girl being a virgin means she'll have a boring and bland personality with no personal growth.
that's a pretty cool kitchen tho
yes but males have a tendency of dying at a younger age and being able to flee and find a second mate could be helpfull
plus the common ancestor probibly was social creature so a female would probibly be protected by a pack if she stayed in one for that time
after that she could have changed group or mate with one of the lesser males, who knows
having a backup plan is usefull you know
>Stalin 2 electric boogaloo
that's my uniconic music taste
>traditional liberal with mixed economic and social policies
this with some scientific policy experimenting/implementation and a very pro-EU (i'm dutch) mindet
Because she clearly doesn't have the same view of sex that I do
Sex to me is something enjoyed by committed partners
If she's not a virgin before meeting me clearly she wasn't that committed
>gets btfo
>tries to save face
>yes but males have a tendency of dying at a younger age and being able to flee and find a second mate could be helpfull
Nigger, males have ~5% shorter lifespans in most of the world, when a male dies the woman usually dies soon after.
You can't even spell the word probably, I'm going to assume you're another retard who has no idea what he's talking about.
ye it is, would love it for /ck/ purposes.
oh okay so not /leftypol/. You're just a normal guy.
All things equal? I don't think that's even possible since the personality of someone who is a virgin at my age compared to someone who is not is totally different.
Honestly, if I met my dream girl, I wouldn't care. However, the sort of personality I'm after is more conducive to having sex, doing drugs, etc. So it's not that I prefer an experienced woman, I genuinely do not care, it's that the things I do actively prefer coincide with experienced women.
That's a beautiful crustacean.
>ultimate way to express love
Really? Not dying for someone? Not giving them your extra kidney? Not hitchhiking across the province just to see them after your bus pops a flat? Iunno, sex is great and fun, but I feel you're seriously overhyping it.
>hedonism
Yeah, I never was too opposed to hedonism.
i would do anything to touch or be around big natural boobs
>However, the sort of personality I'm after is more conducive to having sex, doing drugs, etc.
Wew, that sounds destructive as fuck.
Are you also an urbanized white guy? Because they tend to have the absolute worst taste in women.
>destructive
How? My best "drug friends" are pharmacology and medical science students who wanna get baked and attend a lecture series on psychedelics with me. They're way more into drugs than I am and twice as successful. As for sex, it's fine if you practice it safely, which I do.
>urbanized white guy
I'm from the country, but yeah I'm pasty af.
>worst taste
I'd actually agree to that.
>all the yellow fever fags
>You can't even spell the word probably
i'm a dyslectic dutchman who has dutch autocorrect as standard on his pc because most things i type are dutch
and what i meanth with dying sooner was dying thanks to fights with (other) animals (males were commonly the hunters in hunter-gatherer society's), we're both talking about homo erectus and other pre-homo sapiens right
Yes, we're talking about homo erectus and other pre-homo sapiens.
Contrary to popular belief, females were not always just kept as fuckholes, often times they were just outright killed or abandoned after tribal skirmishes/wars.
There's no point in keeping an excess of older females around when food is limited and difficult to come by.
>Taking psychedelics isn't destructive
Holy shit white people are delusional.
At least niggers know drugs are destructive and just don't give a fuck.
>I'm from the country, but yeah I'm pasty af.
Ahh, so one of those rural methheads, I was gonna guess that next.
Close enough.
>dude bro we do drugs AND we're successful lmao lmao lmao
The absolute state.
Did you just dismiss literally thousands of different substances as "bad" just because they were arbitrarily described as "drugs"? You realise they are all very different, right?
>meth
>he thinks meth is a psychedelic
>"i would have guess that"
Astounding how great your hindsight is.
I'm a regular jackoff. They're success stories. But yeah, drug experiementation is positively correlated with intelligence, especially in women. Stay mad, though.
>Did you just dismiss literally thousands of different substances as "bad" just because they were arbitrarily described as "drugs"?
No, I dismissed them because they have profound effects on how you perceive fucking reality you moron.
Taking substances that heavily alter your perception is dangerous no matter what they are.
Hell, even fucking caffeine is dangerous in a large enough dosage.
>>he thinks meth is a psychedelic
That's not what I said m8, I called you a methhead because rural kids come in 2 varieties: Country bible thumper (not bad, but sometimes racist), and total degenerate faggot methhead that resents not being born in some shithole city so he can have greater access to garbage.
>taking anything that alters your perception is bad
>uh...
>because
>he says as he consumes food, looks at porn, or does any other myriad of activities which alter one's perception
Ever hold a hot drink? Congrats, your perception was altered and your ability to assess personalities has been compromised.
>that's not what I said
Your back pedalling only alters your perception, m8.
If you're getting married for sex, you're doing something wrong.
>I don't know what the words profound and heavily mean
Congrats user, you might be retarded.
>Your back pedalling only alters your perception, m8.
Your reading comprehension is terrible, so I'm going to assume you're retarded.
I thought white people were supposed to be smart.
allright but there must be some situations where rebonding is a usefull skill. an event where random males and females get killed in for instance any number of night predators could cause one. plus spreading the geans of the group also spreads your own geans, that's why a lot of animals have a form of "compassion".
>expert
If you need the girl to do anything but sit there then you're bad at sex or just a beta.
>an event where random males and females get killed in for instance any number of night predators could cause one
If the male is killed by a night predator chances are the female will be killed as well.
>plus spreading the geans of the group also spreads your own geans
Right, what does that have to do with no forming bonds?
If anything that would make women more likely to form bonds with a single man since it's the greatest way to ensure that your genes are passed on, hence why most tribal societies were full of harems despite all the men who didn't pass their genes on.
Why give women the traditional ending when they live the modern narrative?
For men it looks like a lose lose situation.
>I would date her in a second, I do nott want someone who is inexperienced. I amm getting to old for all of the training BS so I would take an expert over a dumb rookie any day.
do it then, why are you worried about what other people think?
>if I use words like "profound" I don't need to quantify myself and can avoid rebuttal.
>you're retarded
>he said after being factually wrong
>le white people meme
Back to Tumblr or Twitter.
Totally waltzing into this comment chain unannounced, but that genes of the group thing got my noggin' joggin'. I always wondered if homosexuality's persistence was because of kin selection.
As for rebonding, that would make sense in the context of children because of how high infant mortality was. It perpetually skewed the average age down.
Well for one, I'm inexperienced too, so I have this romantic ideal that we'd be each other's first and only if I were to get a virgin. And as people itt have said over and over, virgins are more likely to stay faithful and are happier in marriages, plus it's off putting getting used and worn out goods.
>>if I use words like "profound" I don't need to quantify myself and can avoid rebuttal.
Holy shit you might be genuinely retarded.
Considering you think eating food has the same impact on your perception as taking psychedelics I'm inclined to believe that you are.
>Back to Tumblr or Twitter.
Eat my dick nigger, most of the white people here are disgusting degenerate retards with terrible life advice and high school-tier observations on life.
No wonder your shitty race is going extinct.
The ultimate physical way to express romantic love is a better phrasing as it is only shared in romance.
Ok Iisten. You idiots need to understand something about the human body. It's constantly growing from the inside out. It's happening to you right this very moment.
The outer layers of skin are being shed as new skin is being made and pushed upwards. every part of your body is doing this right now. In 7 years, every single cell in your body will have been replaced. The flesh you are today is not the same flesh you were 7 years ago.
What does that mean? That means that even if you ignored that pretty sally has been taking showers daily, all of her "defiled" skin is constantly being replaced!
>But what about her vagina?! There's been Chad dick all over it! His saliva and cum are in there making abortions right now!!
Well, user, guess what? God and nature are way ahead of you on this matter. Standard growth might not be fast enough to replace the flesh from the constant poundings Sally's sweet little love cove gets... So, God did you a solid. every single month, the walls of the vagina are sloughed off and replaced with fresh new walls in a process known as menstruation! WOW! Talk about convenient! Now you'll have a fresh new vagina just for you EVERY SINGLE MONTH!
Now maybe this will ease your retarded little head and you can get back to being human.
You dumb nigger, it's not about how fresh her axe wound is, it's about how much baggage she has.
No one wants used goods, and a woman that's getting fucked by a bunch of guys is the epitome of used goods.
>complains about my reading comprehension while thinking I said psychedelics are the same as hot drinks
>chimps out when told he needs to go back
You would benefit from taking a hit of something. Like remeron or haldol.
That's not the point, she'll never forget those experiences, plus being a slut has a lot of bad implications.
that literally doesn't matter at all
it's about the principle. It's like if I had tried smoking meth before. It's probably not going to stay in my body until I die, but I should be able to admit to people that I did try meth and I should face the consequences if that is not okay with them. If that's something that ruins my life then I probably should have thought about the potential repercussions before I did it in the first place.
That's what I think about promiscuity. It says enough about the character of a woman that it makes me want to steer clear. I don't care if her vagina has flushed out all of the gallons of cum that have been in there over the course of her life, it is the intangible concept which is the problem with sexual promiscuity.
stop trying to thought police people. If a woman can't get a good bf because she slutted too much, that's her problem. If a robot can't get a gf because he hates sluts, that is his problem.
You want a woman who has no memories of another man...? Is that right?
>Unfulfilling sex life
And how does fucking a dozen people before settling down change that? If women were honest with their kinks and fantasies, a single man can fulfill them in the majority of cases. This would also help with further filtering out degenerates.
>stunted in their personal growth, anxiety
How does having sex with a dozen people change that? Do you not realise that there are women who intentionally stay virgins? If anything having sex with multiple partners and breaking various relationships causes more personal growth damage than abstaining. When your life revolves around nothing but cock (and alcohol and partying, which is most often the case) you aren't a well developed person, no matter how media will claim it is so.
>extreme views
How does that follow? "Oh I really want to be a Nazi, but I just can't stop sucking nigger dick!" Furthermore extreme views aren't an issue, at least these women HAVE views, unlike sluts who are the most boring and bland people on this planet.
>Virgins are boring and bland
Exactly the opposite is the case. How does having had sex before make you interesting? I don't care about how many times you got drunk at a party and fucked by Chad, I would much rather talk with Virginia about the hobbies she picked up to occupy herself with instead of fucking around and engage with her in them.
Hymen! We are here to conquer and divideeeeee
Yes, but she should be interested in it and read a lot of doujins.
If it didn't work out before, why would it now? It is that fucking simple.
You're equating having been in a romantic relationship as having smoked meth.
that's not really the point of the post though
I mean not everybody thinks smoking meth is a bad thing. But when somebody does it is typically understood that that person is justified because they don't like drugs and people who do hard drugs.
I just think that "live and let live" has to extend to people who hold robot mentalities like disliking sluts. Those opinions don't affect you unless you are a slut, in which case you should find a man who is enthusiastic or at least unfazed by sluttiness.
Both the female and new male could gain from mating in a situation in which a female has been separated from her original partner, but still has children and the capability of producing more children (especially in a time of no significant shortages). Because it helps to spread the genes of both individuals indirectly and the male could obtain a (second) (less choosy) partner.
my guess is that it might be some developmental failure (conditioning, hormonal mismanagment in the womb or something) or a failure in a sexual recognision system (females have a higher tendency of being bi because their sexual simuli are more generic) (males are stimulated by the image of a dick and a female body, maby the subcouncious concept of female might be easily changable)
>In 7 years, every single cell in your body will have been replaced
WRONG
livescience.com
Plus microchimerism is a proven fact, if she ever got an abortion or had another man's child, there are cells of other guys floating around in here. There is also evidence that sperm affects the brain of a woman. Plus telegony might also exist, in which case any future kids would not even be fully yours (even if she were faithful, which is doubtful with a blown out roastie).
Having been in a sexual relationship either intentionally for just sex, which is a personality trait that is repulsive, or in a romantic relationship that broke apart at some point because she didn't even care to put in enough time to get to know the person she was with before putting out, which makes me question her ability to do the same now. Either way, he's comparing a serious character flaw that, through plenty of statistical backing, has a more severe effect on a person's life than having done meth once.
Not for nothing, but you appear to be nothing but character flaws. If you somehow manage to trick some poor girl into dating you later in life and she gets to see your ugly side and then bails, you would still blame her for the breakup and not yourself. Then you would have every other man on earth regard her as a 'used goods whore' who no is no different than a meth addict.
My man, you're the one sounding like a delusional, fiending crackhead in all this. No offense.
>resorts to frustrated ad-homs because he has no better argument
pathetic