Drug Thread

I want to try DMT in the hopes that it will show me a way out of my shitty, depressed mindset and life situation. I tried 4-AcO-DMT a couple years ago for this exact reason, but only got a bad trip out of it which has made me afraid of psychedelics since. How likely am I to wind up in a timeless, hyperdimensional torture chamber for the machine elves' evil doppelgangers if I try DMT?

Errr that's.. something I can't really answer for you. I'm only 18 bro, so I'm not really "in too deep" yet. Although I have seen it do serious damage to past friends. Personally I think this is the last for me. I love this shit (been using about 4 months) but I don't think I'm capable of using it properly. That said, when I have it, it's gotta be done. Can't just say no for the night lolol but I'm confident I can stay away from it. And as for you, I can't do this shit justice enough, meaning it's not something to fuck around with. Starts fun but if you abuse it, which for me is almost impossible, it'll take you to some dark places. 12+ hr wankathons are nice too ;)

Like other psychs, DMT is all about dosage. At a lower dose, you'll get a taste of what DMT can do without completely being blasted into a different dimension. Higher doses (breakthrough doses) are where you need to be slightly more concerned. Just remember that the DMT peak only lasts like 5-10 minutes. If you do a sub-breakthrough dose then you should be perfectly fine and maybe even have a nice time. I've personally never had a bad time on DMT but I wouldn't consider myself super experienced with it. Also remember that plenty of people can ever get to where they breakthrough, let alone doing it on their first time. Start with a lower dose and have a good set and setting and you'll be completely fine.

>>almost impossible *Not too
Lol I've been up 3 days my bad

I'm high on life....unfortunately.

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Life can be cool in its own way... especially with some good food and music on a comfy night :)

Make the most of the moment, friend

If you've never had a good trip with a psychedelic you shouldn't try DMT. A bad DMT trip is horrible. Try acid first.

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Being fried, anedohnic, and unmotivated af all the time gets old. I like the way I feel when I've been sober for a long ass time

Can yall post pics w/ timestamp of y'alls stash? I wanna see the medicine cabinet of Jow Forums

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Just some kratom. I need to take it easy last weekend my friend and I went wild. Started with a bunch of 4f-php, when we were coming down took some etizolam and beer, but that led to clonazolam and our judgement was fucked so we ended up taking two full doses each of o desmethyl tramadol, trying to smoke crack (we fucked it up somehow though) and probably more stuff I don't remember

Yeah you are completely right. I have been sober for nearly a year but I never have done anything but smoke weed so...not sure if that counts .....I tried meth about three years ago and ended up in the ER three times so - never that shit again. I dont get why people enjoy that shit I felt like a zombie.
Anyway yeah sobriety isnt bad at all really and my mind is really clear...but I will be smokeing weed again sometime in the distant future.Prolly...Have fun user and thanks for the positve thoughts. Hope it comes back to ya a hundredfold.

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Just weed mostly, but I want to get my hands on some acid again. Acid is easily my favorite drug, EASILY.

Would you recommend mushrooms or mescaline cactus instead, or is LSD actually the best starter psychedelic?

It's a very wonderful substance. LSD is probably the drug that I have the most experience with besides DXM. I've done doses as low as 100ug and as high as 500ug so if you have any questions feel free to ask. I'd consider myself pretty educated on most things hallucinogen related (psychedelics, dissociatives, deliriants). I'm an active contributor in editing and adding content for the PsychonautWiki

Hey man I'm the other guy who posted about meth Just curious what made you want to go to the er? I've had some serious problems happen during meth binges that almost made me call. Shit I crawled outside this morning and my entire body looked yellow. I resolved it after drink/eat/vit and whatnot but I wander how close I've been to death.

LSD is a good choice in that it's very lucid. It gives the user a fair bit more control over their thoughts than shrooms usually give. The primary active compound in psilocybin mushrooms is called psilocin. Psilocin is a tryptamine, just like DMT.
You mentioned that you had a bad experience on 4-AcO-DMT. 4-AcO-DMT is also a tryptamine and even breaks down into psilocin (active compound in mushrooms).
LSD is not a tryptamine. It is a lysergamide and it feels pretty different from mushrooms or 4-AcO-DMT. If you freaked out on 4-AcO-DMT, then I would give LSD a try. I would recommend a dose below 150ug for your first time.

(Apologize if I'm wrong in assuming that you're this poster who has had trouble with 4-AcO-DMT in the past)

Definitely do acid first

Drugs are naughty the word of God is my stimulant amen

What about mescaline? I've read it is also very lucid, albeit a bit longer lasting and tending to make you nauseous during the comeup (something I know well from the 4-AcO-DMT experience.) The reason I ask is that I'd rather not fuck around with the darknet unless necessary, and San Pedro is easily available on the clearnet.

>a few percocet 15's
>ritalin 10 (speed fucks me up bad so i dont need much)
>blunts
>few drinks of alcohol

feels good

Nothing crazy, I had a couple of beers and smoked a joint. Recently I had such a horrible weed trip (I almost thought about quitting forever because i was in the most pain i've ever been in my entire life) and I was wondering if anyone of you had a very bad weed trip story to share. I don't have any stoner friends, so i don't know if this is a common thing or not.

as usually bicalutamid circles in my veins blocking the poisonous testosterone

op, if you aren't sure that you've broken through then you haven't. when you finally break through you will know as soon as you come back.

Any psychedelic would be fine for a first experience. What really matters is the dosage. If mescaline is easily available for you, then go for it and just make sure that you do the proper research on effects and make sure that you dose low for your first time. I can't emphasize the dosing low for your first time enough. People have bad experience when they dose way too high for their first time. Meanwhile, those who dose low for their first time usually have amazing experiences.

Weed is similar to stronger psychedelics in that it will force you to think about the shitty parts of your life if it is in fact shitty. Also:
>weed
>trip
Did you take a bunch of edibles or something? Weed always gives me anxiety when I take a very high dose. It forces you to think about bad stuff even more and in my case, it makes me recall how terrifying the thought loop I experienced during my bad 4-AcO-DMT trip was.

The dosage was definitely the biggest contributing factor for my bad trip. I measured 25mg, but my scale was only accurate to .01g, which means that the actual diesel could have been well over 30mg, a very high dose, especially for a first timer. One moment I was just starting to see the first hints of visuals, the next moment I was in a surreal time loop hell where it felt like the drug was trying to eat my mind and identity alive. Visuals were fucking awesome, though. I looked at myself in the mirror and saw translucent, gold tinted symmetric Aztec patterns all over my face.

yea i feel crazy on x or any upper sometimes weed but i still do them cause uppers can be fun and make you lose weight and weed is good

whenever i feel crazy i just j off or drink and it goes away but it is fucking maddening the bad crazy trips make me feel a level of depression i havent felt before but its only a short time i was way sadder sober

I've definitely had bad weed "trips" before. I think certain strains induce them harder than others. I remember one time specifically where I was already high, but I smoked another bowl. I got really freaked out about the fact that there's a skeleton inside my body (since I'm scared of skeletons) and I couldn't stop thinking about it for the rest of the night. I just spiraled around that thought going deeper and deeper into my mind until I eventually fell asleep. Did not feel good man.

But most of the time I find weed produces a sense of peace and serenity. And physical relaxation. But like any psychedelic, set and setting are very important, and if you're in a bad place in your life, the drugs will force you to face that head on.

>I got really freaked out about the fact that there's a skeleton inside my body (since I'm scared of skeletons) and I couldn't stop thinking about it for the rest of the night.
Holy kek. This just sounds so comical to me. I hope your other trips have been enjoyable!

>Did you take a bunch of edibles or something?
No, but maybe since I have a very low tollerance I simply smoked too much.

>it will force you to think about the shitty parts of your life if it is in fact shitty
The fact is that the experience was very physical rather then mental. I was legitemaly in pain, I was twitching, my heart was beating very fast.

>if you're in a bad place in your life, the drugs will force you to face that head on.
Right now i'm not in a very good place both mentally and physically. Maybe i should stop for a while until i fell better

Oh its definitely funny in hindsight! And I don't usually dose high enough on weed to trip -- I find it to be usually unpleasant and disassociative. Acid is a much, much more lucid, insightful, fun trip, even though it's way more intense.

>I was legitemaly in pain, I was twitching, my heart was beating very fast.
My dude, it might be that the strain you have is one of those "freakout" strains that's like a really strong, intense head high. If you have a low tolerance on top of that I could see how you would have a bad time. It feels like the plant is trying to tell you something, but you can't figure it out -- or something like that. It's possible that the weed was trying to bring awareness to whatever physical or mental ailments you might already be experiencing. Just know the symptoms you experienced from the weed are common, and you're not in danger from them.

I would recommend returning to weed maybe when you feel more grounded in your life, if you decide to return. If you are fit and happy, those aspects of yourself will be reflected in your experiences with weed.

>The fact is that the experience was very physical rather then mental. I was legitemaly in pain, I was twitching, my heart was beating very fast.
When I get a weed induced anxiety attack, it often doesn't manifest as mental anxiety. Rather, it's similar to what you described. My heart rate and respiration shoot up, and I get hints of pain in my chest, which feeds into the anxiety in a positive feedback loop.

Need you guys helps, my dudes
Ive been smoking weed a lot everyday for the past 2 months and now im starting to feel disassociated while not high and i cant get as high for as long anymore, i think im hitting my tolerance.
My question is should i try to take a break or should i just give in to the weed and just smoke more until im out and j off the rest of the night away?

If you're really concerned then I'd say give it a break after tonight. Taking a solid few weeks off will do wonders for your psyche. Weed really can burn you out if you use it enough

You can get stoned without weed
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no need for it, your body produces it

Just take a break. Don't let weed control your life man. If you're getting disassociated from IRL, you need to spend some time getting reacquainted with it. Take a bike ride this weekend while sober or something, and you will find its stranger and more beautiful than you remember it being. Take maybe 2-3 days off minimum, and if you can't you're a pussy.

Weed isn't all it's cut out to be by the time you reach that point in your tolerance. Take a nice, month long tolerance break and just watch how the magic returns when you come back to it. Do you exercise? A daily regimen, especially when done outside in the sunlight, does wonders for dissociative and derealizing effects.

well the two dubs of truth speak volumes
ill start a t break tomorrow then, thanks anons

No I dont exercise but i probably should start now

Just do intervals of power walking and light jogging to start out. I'm a 240lbs fatass, and even I've gotten used to it to the point where I get the runner's high without completely rendering myself exhausted. Good luck.

Just smoking pot and sipping on some codeine syrup I was prescribed for this wicked chest cold that I have had for two weeks now, that I probably exacerbate every time I smoke pot. But at least I got that lean

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codeine with prometh? nice what brand is it? how many oz? what you mixing it? i had a whole fucking pint of lean last week it was so fucking dope dude. just me and bottles and 2 liters of sprite tons of ice and jolly ranchers and blunts and shit

Last week it was the real shit with promethazine but doc didn't refill that, decided to change it up and give me codeine with guaifenesin. I can't go as hard on it because that shit makes me nauseous. Just little bottles like 120ml I think

on 6mg of Rivotril tonight

just smoking weed. wanna do dmt. ppl sayin its related to death and shit. sounds ridiculous but from what ive heard dmt seems freaking great.

I picked up an oil cartridge a few hours ago and have been ripping that since then. It's my birthday tomorrow.

yeah it's possible to bring yourself to a mind state comparable to being on a psychoactive substance but
1. you should be able to experience that mind state without having to devote lots of time to training your mind, just to see what it's like
2. you can't truly replicate psychoactive effects without the substance being present.

I'll let you slide because you're tweaking on meth, but this is Jow Forums not /b/

I had done LSD twice before, both times 200ug. But last night I did 400ug, and it was on a completely different level. It was indeed at least twice the potency, if not more. This time, the visuals were so strong they were a little overwhelming. Whereas with the 200ug trips, the visuals docilely stayed on the wall and surfaces. At 400ug, I was effectively assaulted by them. Voices slowed down, echoed and reverberated, which didn't happen at 200ug. I slipped into a profound disorientation and stupor. I didn't realise it when I was tripping 200ug, but the disorientation I felt would lead develop into ego death at 400ug.

It's very hard to explain what it was like. It was something that was experienced and felt, not something that was thought. It was not a concept; it was something that really happened. Essentially, at the peak of my disorientation, I became so confused that I literally forgot who I was. I realised I was referring to myself as a third person. I perceived my own inner monologue as a separate person. In my supreme disorientation, all the separate individuals blurred together into an indistinguishable mush, myself included. It was incredible. It started by trying to remember if I was acting normal; I imagined I was being guided by myself from the past before I was tripping. Then I thought it peculiar how I perceived this person to be separate from me, since she was, after all, me. And then I realised I was neither of these people; I was not the person from the past who was guiding me, nor was I the person who had just made that observation. They both crumbled before me and I had transcended beyond them.

I don't know what prompted me to do so, but I began to write during the trip. I wrote nearly 4000 words of an unfiltered consciousness stream. The fact that I didn't know for whom I was writing just contributed to the disorientation. I'm very excited to push the boundaries even further and try 600ug.

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Jw since you like doing uppers clearly do you like doing downers? I mean personally I like coke but that's the only upper I really like. I prefer doing opiates of any type and benzos are a blessing.

pretty sure meth is fucking addicting or else it wouldn't have so many people homeless. yes it's not as addicting as heroin but man this was a retarded ass comment.