Makeup is the reason why you can't get a GF

Check out MakeApp, it digitally removes makeup from a woman's face. Any woman immediately goes down 2-3 points when you see her true face with no makeup. That's why all women use makeup.

The problem is that it raises an ugly 4/10 girl to a 6/10 or a 7/10 who thinks she deserves Chad alone, or at least a very good looking guy. That's why so many robots and incels are alone, because their looksmatches plaster some makeup on and get pumped and dumped by Chad instead, and feel they are too good for us.

That's also why women get extremely mad when you request to see them without makeup, or if you tell them that makeup is like a mask.

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Tell me something I don't know man, I don't care anymore and neither should you, just be happy you don't have all the baggage relationships come with.

Agreed. However, too many guys put women on a pedestal because of their looks, robots included. We need them to be aware that women are just as ugly or average as us - they just choose to hide it.

Until I was 15 or something I thought girls had a different kind of skin then I found out it's a thing called makeup

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the app doesn't work if you're not wearing makeup unfortunately. it removes your eyelashes and corrodes your skin.

would still smash tbqh

Only if you run it many times over on a pic, which it is not intended for. Run guys through it once, there is very little change.

nah man, i run myself through it and it erased my eyebrows. i think i have too much contrast (dark hair and pale skin)

I always drop a woman down a couple of points if she is wearing make up. If she is about the same level of attractiveness as I am with makeup, then she is below me--in looks. The heavier and more noticeable the make up, the higher the drop. No homo, but I think that guys in general look better because they don't *need* make up.

Hmm, i dunno. the creator of the app still looked great despite angry roasties running him through the app.

that's pretty amusing user

honestly you're right but gay as fuck for recommending this

>makeup didn't exist in the 1950s when there were no incels

Oh wait that's completely retarded.

1950s is when our problems began. Roasties forsaking traditional marriage, the emergence of the Chad, nerds being ostracized and bullied, etc.

>guys in general look better because they don't *need* make up
no.
its just as a society we've conditioned ourselves to see guys as being 'normal' without makeup.

girls between 10~13 dont wear make up and they look just as cute

girls rapidly deteriorate in looks after their teens. there was a reason why every ancient society married them off as soon as they hit puberty.

conniving and deceptive harlots esp. at the superficial level, that's not news user...well except for unsalvageable betas and low-IQ Chads that associate peachy perfume as a sign of a girl's hygiene

Who is that retarded ugly clown in the pic?

There's not much choice about it anymore. Makeup is too pervasive for women to easily avoid. I dress simply and don't wear makeup and as a result I'm called sir on a daily basis. If people don't see makeup, or a dress, some stupid sequins, or embroidery, they assume they're talking to a man.
Although admittedly it doesn't help that I live in a liberal cesspool and most people probably think that I am trans.

I think it's ellen paige

you must be an uggo, no offense

but tbf, all women are uggos in their natural state
a transition from heavy makeup to minimal makeup then to no makeup is perhaps our best route

I've heard it all before. People are so quick to tell women that don't wear makeup that they're ugly or lazy for not wearing it.
How do you not see that this adds to the issue?

By the way, adding "no offense" to a rude statement doesn't keep it from offending anyone.

No they're not. Men and women have the same skin, the same hair. Women's imperfections don't need to be covered more than men's, it's just the way we're used to seeing women. When all you see are women in full faces of makeup, an equally beautiful woman with no makeup can't compete.

>tl;dr you didn't read this thread
many of us prefer women of natural beauty in min/no makeup
don't get the impression that a woman's attractiveness ends in her foundation, that's simply dishonest and conniving

That app probably doesn't restore their waxed to hell eyebrows back to their natural rendition. Don't marry a woman with super waxed brows, you might end up with a robot son with a caveman unibrow. Maybe the freakoid subhuman will wax them all nice like and become a tranny you can love and be proud of.

*tranny or a faggot

I wasn't responding to the entire thread. I was responding to the posts that I quoted.

>don't get the impression that a woman's attractiveness ends in her foundation
I didn't say it does. I said that our perception of what women should look like is different because of makeup, and because of that, women who don't wear makeup are seen as ugly in comparison.
Why would I go without makeup if I believed makeup is an integral part of beauty?

I don't wear makeup everyday, when I do it's not much. I don't wax my eyebrows or fake tan or get eyelash extensions, I also dress reasonably plainly. People still know I'm a woman though, if people think you are a man when you don't have makeup on then I'm not sure makeup will help that I'm sorry.
Just wear plain but feminine clothes, keep yourself maintained, brushed hair, moisturiser to keep your skin soft, don't have short hair etc.

Man, I miss the 80's.

I'm not a pig, I maintain my appearance. I'm clean. I dress nicely. I take care of my hair and my skin.
I don't dress in feminine clothes because I don't like them. I think they're stupid. I don't wear makeup because I don't like it. It feels gross on my face and makes me look like someone else. I'm flat chested because that's the way I am.
Like I said, I live in a really liberal area. This combination of things makes people think I'm a trans boy or a teenage gay. I don't look like a man, I just look androgynous and people default to male.
I'm not going to change my appearance just so people know what's in my pants. I look the way I look.

Don't complain about it then?
The thread is about women looking ugly without makeup on and you came in saying you don't like wearing makeup and without it people think your trans. I don't see your point in posting when it proves the point op was making.

>The thread is about women looking ugly without makeup on
Women don't look ugly without makeup, they just look better with it.

Without it people think I'm trans because people who want to present as a woman wear makeup, and I don't wear it, therefore I must be a boy. Where I live people love gays and trans people, and they're eager to call people by whatever they think they want to be called. I don't look particularly masculine or feminine, but I don't have the habits people expect women to have, so they default to calling me male.
It has nothing to do with ugliness or beauty. I didn't paint my eyelids green this morning, so I'm a boy.

>I didn't paint my eyelids green this morning, so I'm a boy.

You ugIy

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I live in a liberal city, sadly, with gays and drag queens and trans people, without makeup I still look like a girl and have never been mistaken for a boy.
Seems like a you problem, you obviously are bothered by it otherwise you wouldn't of bought it up
>didn't paint my eylidss green this morning, so im a boy
How many girls wear no or little makeup and still look like girls?
You're literally proving the point

I don't know how to make this clearer to you but I'll try one more time.
I'm androgynous. I'm not bad looking, I have clear skin and a pretty symmetrical face. I don't have hair on my body or face. I'm clean and I smell nice.
But I don't look masculine or feminine. You have obviously feminine features, so it's easy for people to say you're a girl. I'm right in the middle, I'm 5'8" and flat chested, and I don't smile much. When people look at me they have to actively look for clues about my gender. When they don't detect any makeup, they call me sir.
I'm not bothered that I don't look like a girl. I know I don't look like a man either, although you could argue that I look like a boy. However, if it was important to me to be seen as a "real" woman, I would have no choice but to wear makeup.
I realize that's not the case for most women, but even women with very feminine features are called lazy or ugly for not wearing it, even if they do take care of themselves and put effort into their appearance. I don't think that's fair.

>but even women with very feminine features are called lazy or ugly BY OTHER WOMEN for not wearing it, even if they do take care of themselves and put effort into their appearance

Fixed that for you. And of course the fact that women can increase their SMV by 2-3 points just by using make-up is unfair to women, because reasons.

No, I said what I meant. Women will call other women lazy and ugly, but so will men (see: this thread).
The fact that women can use makeup isn't unfair. The fact that makeup is a standard is.

You look like a 14 year old boy. Makeup isn't going to do shit

>Any woman immediately goes down 2-3 points when you see her true face with no makeup
True mate

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>The fact that an ugly woman can look hot thanks to makeup but men have no such options isn't unfair.

Fuck off roastie.

>You look like a 14 year old boy.
I already know that. I own a mirror.
>Makeup isn't going to do shit
You're still missing the point, I can't help you.

It's 2018. Men can and do wear makeup.

wow it's almost as if some unseen force drives our behaviour and society how strange, I wonder what it could be..

>Faggots can and do wear makeup.

Fixed that for you. Now fuck off.

>IT'S THE CURRENT YEAR
Oh now I see your problem. No men shouldn't wear makeup, ideally neither should women. However women should be feminine. If you don't want to be then fine but don't come in and complain about looking like a boy.

Okay, so you want to be able to wear makeup without people thinking you are gay.
I want to be able to not wear makeup without people thinking I'm lazy or a man.
How do you not see that this is the same issue? Aren't we the same?

>No men shouldn't wear makeup,
I didn't comment as to whether they should or should not.
>ideally neither should women.
See above.
>However women should be feminine.
For whom?
>don't come in and complain about looking like a boy.
I haven't. I like the way I look.