People are starting to discuss the incel issue. Clearly more and more of us will start to get violent the more the loneliness epidemic proliferates.
How do we change social attitudes to instead make faithful monogamy the norm? Instead of what we have now which is shit.
I keep saying this, our social attitudes towards relationships need to go back about 70 years, minus the spousal abuse.
Third wave feminism and female idpol were a mistake.
At least finally some normies are taking notice, though I doubt anything will come of it, and if anything does, it won't be good.
Clearly, but going back into the past isn't going to work and isn't realistic. There needs to be a modern solution to the problem that both humanizes people of all genders who have this issue, while also clearly taking into account that indeed something MUST be done.
Having a good 40-60% of a population uncoupled, or at worst, completely isolated, will only spell ruin for a society.
You have to destroy feminism first.
Take every one them out.
It does give me hope at least.
There is no fixing this because women believe the current system is better for them. Since they are the majority of voters they will never vote or support any attempt to roll back laws on divorce and custody, or bring back social shaming of things like premarital sex and riding the cock carousal. Things will only keep getting worse until a societal collapse. After the collapse women will have most of their rights rolled back. They could give up a little now, to avoid losing all of their social gains later, but they don't think ahead.
>Clearly, but going back into the past isn't going to work and isn't realistic
Going back to the past, before sexual liberation was seen as desirable, is the ONLY way this works. Sexual liberation and feminism are non-starters for social monogamy. They have to be destroyed completely. Thats not going to happen, so Im gonna sit back and enjoy the collapse. Join me.
It's pretty disheartening that femininsm has normalized both partners in a relationship working, while also depreciating wages such that the combined salaries are lower than 1 spouse had made before feminism in the first place. Makes it hard to have children like that.
Women being able to work if they want to is fine sure, but I also don't think the stay-at-home dad routine has been lock step alongside that.
There's just going to be an epidemic of single mothers and more and more incels the longer this is allowed to go on.
>though I doubt anything will come of it, and if anything does, it won't be good.
Think of the last time women, feminists in particular, pushed for any sort of legislation that would benefit men more than women.
These are the correct answers. Thread is over, pack it in
only thing that can be done is to locate all incels lady and male n move out this country
somewhere
we could teach real freedom n self respect n start a new world
actually it needs to go forward 20 years with accelerated spouse abuse and child slavery
Make a law that makes it illegal for women to turn down men.
You mean like school shootings have brought attention to bullying and mental health issues? Bahahahahahaha it's only going to make it worse faggot.
But the service economy necessitates it because women are better than men at most post-industrial labor. Without a major shit in the economy itself, these movements will continue to dominate.
Agreed. A collapse will happen. Extreme Muslims are good reference as they posed a threat and we had a solution, the solution was simple. Destroy their leaders(the source) and allow them to migrate and they'll stop wanting to kill people. With gender relationship imbalances, nothing can change positively. Could shutdown Jow Forums and other websites, it won't make the problem go away. The source is society itself not an individual man, the injustices are weaved into the fabric of democracy.
>But the service economy necessitates it because women are better than men at most post-industrial labor. Without a major shit in the economy itself, these movements will continue to dominate.
this is true
high problem solving industries are in the vast vast minority, your math and engineering degree is nice and all but women will still take every single bartending food service flight attendant hotel front desk and middle management job
us men are not suited to these sort of things im sure i speak for many when i just want to fucking HIT STUFF REAL HARD AND YELL AT THINGS UNTIL THEY DO MY BIDDING
you don't
it's not fair
it's heartening that there are people like you still on this board, so enjoy the rare supportive (you)
Service economy is not the final step in the evolution of work. All those customer service jobs will be automated. We'll order stuff on our phones or through kiosks, with little human interaction. Women still won't do the physical labor that keeps our society running, and by the time we have robots good enough to take over those jobs, they'd be good enough to make sexbots.
sexbots doesn't solve the incel issue
Realistic ones that can walk around, look real, feel real, do household tasks, with a decent enough AI that can have simple conversations and remember your likes and dislikes, would be good enough for a lot of men.
If, a massive if, change or progress is made to even the field, we'll all be in our 60s by then. Old age will have rendered our desires mute and we will die alone, forgotten. If progress is made, it will be made independent of us and without the ability to be passed on to any offspring.
Don't focus on sex; be selfish and focus on yourselves.
the system doesn't support soft men like were the majority now and we just want to live are lives without expectations n shit
some of us know this shit going to fail eventually some of us don't either way everyones fucked and it's kind of our fault but whatever
we don't want to fuck robots we don't want male sex toys
all we want is to live our lifes side by side with our waifus but most are financially broke n mentally tired to give a fuck so whatever
fuck you feminism and fuck politics
also fuck the internet post 2007
Feminists are already trying to help you beta incels out by attacking toxic masculinity (a.k.a Chad) and embracing effeminate and different men, but you guys just shit on them.
Then why do they continue to fuck Chads: washingtonpost.com
And then complain about feminist girly men? theguardian.com
>Feminists are already trying to help you beta incels out by attacking toxic masculinity (a.k.a Chad) and embracing effeminate and different men, but you guys just shit on them.
Very relevant point. Certainly we should be celebrating the fact that people like Weinstein and Cosby are going down.
However I'm not entirely sure that Feminists wouldn't rather a completely sexless society. They do not promote coupling really. Maybe making women approach more but I'm unconvinced besides that.
fucking THIS you fools, it's futile to think it'll improve in your lifetimes
I can't even express how disgusted that first one makes me. Didn't bother with the second.
I think people with cognitive dissonance like that are thankfully in the minority, most women aren't radical feminists. There definitely is more acceptance of amicable friendly men now as said.
Clearly Chads will be Chads though.
Yeah i think this to. At this point its just survival of the fittest and im down for whatever i have to do to make ends meet. Society itself is collapsing and it cant be stopped, just let the fucker burn and rebuild from the ashes.
Pheonix style
we don't they shit on themselves with the bullshit ideas that nobody wants to come to terms with not even incels cause it's pretty much an ass kiss
we don't need help because we already know what's needed
incels rarely get any spotlight anyway and when they do it's usually some biased neckbeard or some shit
basicaly this entire "he said she said how can we fix it thing" is an joke and its fake
they are all puppets made to steer everyone in the wrong directions (feminist,mgtow,trump,everything in social media)
we can see this but no one believes us so we just don't care you feminist are basically beating a dead horse that's dead af
>. Clearly more and more of us will start to get violent the more the loneliness epidemic proliferates.
That's exactly what they want, don't be a faggot
>bring back social shaming of things like premarital sex and riding the cock carousal
But this isn't voted on. Government should get on that, starting with social ads, then maybe adding some material benefits and such.
Just let the white race die from it's own collective hubris.
How about no you piece of shit cuntbag
>all we want is to live our lifes side by side with our waifus but most are financially broke
So why do you deserve a wife then if you can't take care of her? You realize having a wife usually means having kids too, right? So you want to intentionally raise kids in poverty? Just get a better career you lazy piece of shit
Most annoying part about all this incel drama is the fact that it's so heavily focused on sex thanks to the fact that it's "incel." No one talks about how someone could reach that point, the level of rejection they would need to face, the possible mental illness, the isolation and what it can do to a person, or anything else related to it. It's just all about sex no matter what to normies. Incels are just bitter virgins, that's all, there's nothing else to it to them.
Because it's the mental derangement that causes you to be unloved and rejected in the first place
The white race is already on it's death knell. There is nothing that you can do to save it, short of a nuclear war.
The negroes and asians are breeding like insects, we can't beat them. Europe will be demographically identical to Africa in 60 years.
>Socially enforced monogamy
This sounds like the type of shit some emotional and mentally manipulative mong would tell their significant other. "Oh no, honey. It's not my fault I cheated on you, it's your fault for forcing me into socially enforced monogamy!" God forbid you can't stop going around fucking everything that moves and don't want people to call you a trashy bicycle, so you blame everyone else.
I wish we could nuke twitter so faggot beardo's and dumb loud holes wouldn't be given a fucking outlet to share their stupid fucking opinions and go back to their poetry slams with other neckless retards to talk about how monogamy is bad because their mom found them sleeping with a cuban fresh off the boat whose as old as their fucking dad.
Maybe we need to stop identifying as incels and join the white nationalists lol
>the end result is why you reached that result in the first place
Yeah, okay.
i don't want a wife
marriage is a trap, having kids is a trap, you do realize america is a trap? it's fucking you, i, and everyone else who want to live a decent life
america knows you want the dream so they make you run through blood, tears, n jizz just to get to it
when you don't want these things then you're being selfish but i was born for no reason at all so i think it's selfish that i can't get the same treatment
This is the most retarded argument there is and yet its a favorite among normalshits. Learn basic cause and effect.
Feminists just pay lip service to that. Theyre still fucking whores for Chad
So what do you want a wife for if you don't actually want a family. You just want someone to fuck? Isn't the selfish one you then? You don't want her to have kids and you don't want to take care of her. What do you have to offer anyone to make you worthy of settling down with? Don't think of it as a personal attack or saying that you'll never have anything
You can have anything you want if you actually go out there and work hard enough. If you can prove yourself to be stable enough to be a life partner then that is how you get a life partner. Not from sitting around crying demanding one gets shackled to you in misery like a lifeless doll
AHAHAHAHAHAHA imagine actually believing this bait-tier bullshit.
this is only ever somewhat true
Go to church desu
What about having a wife and caring for each other but choosing not to have kids?
Focus on supporting each other and building your careers and hobbies instead.
You choose the wrong guy to blackpill you sack of shit. Even if things were completely hopeless I'd still choose to die with honor rather than living as a coward. Cowardice may work for you, it doesn't for everyone, just kill yourself already
the long term effect of the last financial crisis is starting to get talked about, not just incels but the rising suicide rates of young men. Financial crisis tends to create instability within the society and instability breeds radicalism of all kind. Unless 1st world countries start figuring out new jobs for the isolating male generation, its a ticking time bomb of gang violence, new terrorist recruits and more incels killing people because they can't get laid.
Get them a job, they get money. Money solves all those other problems by itself as a more financially secure person does not feel trapped in a hopeless situation.
>LITERALLY joined a christian church
>There for two weeks
>Suddenly surrounded by happy, sociable people
>Makes me uncomfortable and angry
>Like a demon, scurry away into my cave and never return
You can easily have that once you begin the process of getting a good career. Go to a good college and look around. All the women there are working hard for their degrees to get good jobs. Get into those good jobs and you'll meet good women who will build an actual future with you. You need to be what you're looking for.
i'm not demanding anything or anyone lol
to put this as clear as possible
i want a family and the american dream but it's too bullshit trying to get to it
i don't care about sex or money or any of that shit
yes i want to establish these things and i agree working hard towards anything will eventually achieve success
but its b.s.so i don't want to prove myself to anyone but myself when i feel like it proving it
i'm not some providing tool that people play men to be i'm human just like you and i have desires and feelings n i stick to em regardless of what others expects from me
like i said its partially my fault because i'm stubborn but i'm stubborn for a good reason
lol das not me but yeah good advice for the normies
YOU
ARE
NOT
ENTITLED
TO
PUSSY
the game was never fair, it's rigged and you're losing.
Nothing will change.
t. Chad
Well if you don't want to do anything then you deserve to be alone, sorry. You can't just say "marry me because when I feel like it, I'll be something eventually". Only a lunatic would settle down with someone like that. You can't build a future around "when I feel like it"
And remember, career chicks are only willing to date their superiors. Don't worry tho, they'll bang any man with charisma. Just be yourself.
so why should an incel NOT become an asocial murderer if the game he is playing is rigged against him?
Go ahead and do it you pussy
You still ain't getting laid.
If it's any relief to you, I fucked over 20 girls but am realising I will never be able to marry because all women are whores, even in church.
i'm not trying to get married and you're not listening
AMERICA IS BULLSHIT
the laws is BULLSHIT
the expectations is BULLSHIT
it's just a one big money RIG
you idiot
this is why america is dying because of happy go lucky liberals like you
You sound like some faggot teenager who just discovered politics.
more and more attacks will occur
I'm looking forward to it
you sound like come cock sucking liberal
Murder just doesn't achieve much. He should do something that makes his life good, like steal a lot of money.
who just sucks dick and agrees with what everyone says cause its trendy
Forget his views, anyone who types like that is clearly underage and should be banned from this website.
my ip can be traced 10 years before you even knew this site existed
all of you need to go to tumblr
where trendy asshole like you get along touching dick to ass fucking faggots
all that asshole was spewing was normie obvious bullshit THANKS captain fucking hindsight
Jow Forums is dead as fuck rip the robot good night
>As a feminist writer, I understand that these behaviors denote male entitlement and indicate that he might not respect women. And yet, I was turned on. I have always been attracted to dominant men.
Well I guess there's a reason why women couldn't vote or own property during most of human history
normalfags ruined my Jow Forums ;(
>normalfags ruined my Jow Forums ;(
Came here in 2008 as a robot
Fucked plenty of girls since and found a job
It's not that you were invaded, is that some of us grew up eventually
>people of all genders
Whatever the solution is you'll hate it. The only way this gets resolved without monogamy returning is through artificial wombs and female genocide.
and you think i'm lacking why?
all i was trying to explain was that america is going to shit
doesn't mean i'm going with it dickhead
you're just some fucking troll anyway who thinks its cool that you fucked girls and got a job i really don't care about your green paper and your whores bud there's plenty to go around
you're so normalfag it's hard to believe you've been here for 10 years
>can walk around
Good progress already made (see Boston Dynamics)
>look real, feel real
Good progress already made
>with a decent enough AI that can have simple conversations and remember your likes and dislikes
Doubtful (tried any modern chatbots?), but with low enough standards it might be possible.
>do household tasks
Not a chance. Household cleaning is the most difficult of all jobs to automate.
>all i was trying to explain was that america is going to shit
everybody knows that already. In fact, the whole world is kinda shit already. But unless the apocalypse is right outside my fucking window, why should I give two shakes of a fuck?
>you're so normalfag it's hard to believe you've been here for 10 years
It's hard to believe not everyone stayed an abrasive faggot with the opinions of a high schooler who payed attention in social studies for once.
From Angela Nagle's book Kill All Normies.
Women with broke men are far more likely to run off with a man who's doing better than one who's already with a man who's doing well. Stop using pathetic excuses to stay poor and uneducated
So move to the middle east or whatever other country you think is so much better and easier. Women settling down with someone who isn't a loser happens in all cultures and all species, retard. If you glue yourself to someone who doesn't do shit, guess what. You'll never have shit and will starve in the streets with a miserable existance. You're not as good a catch as you think you are and the sooner you accept that, the sooner you can actually get your shit together and actually meet someone
there is not one fucking high schooler that knows anything what i'm talking about
you sound like a high scoolers parent who think they know but even they don't know
that how fucking deep i am into what i'm trying to say
you might know it but how does it effect you individually thats why you don't care
it effects me every fucking day i see it every day 24/7
look man throw all the normalfag talk somewhere else i know how to run my own life douchebag
>How do we change social attitudes to instead make faithful monogamy the norm?
desu people are already doing that- it just takes them longer to get married. Anyway marriage is increasingly only happening among financially well-off and educated people. Due to the lack of well-paying jobs for working-class men, working-class women are choosing to avoid marriage entirely and have children outside of wedlock by relying on government welfare.
>Jun 30, 2017
ahead of her time
3rd wave feminism is on your side, but you hate women too much to realize it.
>How do we change social attitudes to instead make faithful monogamy the norm
Destroy all social media. Including Jow Forums. Reddit will be the first to go.
>my ip can be traced 10 years before you even knew this site existed
>that how fucking deep i am into what i'm trying to say
you should see a doctor user. you sound like me a few years ago when I felt "enlightened" during my bipolar related manic episode and spent hours shitposting on this site but in reality I was just spouting pseudo intellectual bullshit with no real meaning, kind of like you.
plenty of (You)s to be had though for autism posting, so there's that
Since when were they fighting for monogamy and not sexual liberation?
and bro i get you
you gotta change how you see it to see change
i get everything you're probably going to say next
ITS NOT ABOUT THAT
the whole point is that its not about me or you its about everyone and how were just cog wheels running a dead system and thats why incels don't care about any of that normal fag shit i'm sorry thats just how it is
that's how it was in 2008 now its just "you can do it to here my normie speech"
I DONT CARE
If you know what you're doing then why are you here
>"sex inequality" is not a major political issue
It doesn't affect women so of course not.
nice troll post but i heard it before bud
and whatever my nigga continue doing you ill do me
>applying the standards in the black community to the whole nation
user please stop
Even if women start fucking nerds theyd be the cool skrillex nerds
Youre preferences in men mean nothing to the average robot
Why would anyone fuck a "real" nerd?
NORMALS FAGS:
ALL YOU NEEd IS A JOB AND GO TO COLLEGE TO GET GIRLFRIENDSsss
STOP BEING A NEET YOU aRe Your OWN PROBelEMn
SICK CUNTZ:
Might get lucky and bag the Bill Gates nerd.
ive been with a nerd I met off /sci/ going on two years now and the only differences between him and you anons here is that he has a stable career and takes care of himself, plus he isnt a miserable shitter that just complains nonstop like you guys do. thats all it takes so i dont see whats so hard for you.
Also sick cunt
every other post doesn't belong here
I know it's mostly a dead meme, but I'm still fascinated by the ideal of white sharia.
We were so close to android waifus. Just had to keep flying under the hate-fuelled normies' radar and all would have been well.
The normals can't lose their only socially acceptable target. If they did, where would they direct their extreme hatred?
>Will only spell ruin for a society
You know what? Fine! We've finally come to a point where this society is collapsing on itself, and as a social outcast this can only be a good news for me. To me (and possibly other fellow robots) nothing will change, however the Normies will finally understand what we've gone through, what does it to be alone, to have nobody that you can trust, to always have to live like a hunted animal. We may even be able to make a comeback, since what would be hell on earth to them would be the norm for us.