Do straight up mail order brides still exist? Where do I find that and why aren't we all doing it?

there's a tlc show called 90 day fiance you can see clips on youtube to get an idea. All of the people are just trying to get citizenship and american money.

Let me clarify why I ask the question in the first place because it doesn't seem to be understood.

Every "mail order bride" site I've found is not a mail order bride site but rather "international dating". I am okay with visiting a woman in her home country - I do not have time or patience to go back multiple times, blowing tens of thousands of dollars, without any guarantees that the knot will one day be tied. I might as well post an ad on POF as I've already done, since I have to fly to visit anybody anyhow.

This isn't about what country somebody is from. I want a guarantee. I can impress somebody in the short term, but I cannot keep a relationship going long enough for marriage to finally occur - the marriage must be immediate or she will lose interest.

I'd ask my parents to arrange a marriage but I inherited my antisocial personality from my own boomer father.

that site is probably just not called "mail order bride" because of legal things. I'm just going to say though, these mail order brides are gold diggers and you would be better off fucking a whore somewhere. You may think you are unhappy now but a woman that hates you and won't have sex with you or divorces you to fuck chad as soon as she gets citizenship will be even worse.

>Id get me an asian
I said "or wherever you get her from"
There is no such thing as a traditional woman anymore, anyone that claims to be is merely larping in an attempt to deceive you.

>divorces you to fuck chad as soon as she gets citizenship
This is less likely if she's a virgin in the first place, which I demand as a bare minimum anyway.

you better be really rich if you expect to find that.

Lel. How will you know she is a virgin? She will just lie.

Just answer my goddamn question will you without pointing and laughing like the reddit normie you probably are

That is the answer. You will be laughed at if you ask for a virgin. And then they will charge you double, and she won't be a virgin anyway and just lie.

I ask a simple question and you derail it. It's almost like you don't want me or anyone else to know the answer because (((you))) want it to yourself.

I gave you the correct answer. You just are buttmad it's not the answer you wanted to hear.

You gave me no answer. Do mail order bride services actually exist? Yes or no? If so where can I find them?

Yes they exist but no you will not find a virgin there. There's a lot of divorced christmas cakes. Try anastasiadate for some ukrainians.

>anastasiadate
No guarantees can be made with these people. Read my prior posts.

I swear to God I would convert to islam at this point and be done with it if islam didn't literally believe the earth is flat.

Do you live in the United States? There are chat rooms where women "seeking to learn english" meet guys. It's basically mail order bride as long as you live in the US or western europe.

>Where do I find that and why aren't we all doing it?
Because they're only in it for the green card. Once that's finalised, it's divorcee time (both from her and half your stuff).

Any examples of this?

post probably isn't original, i'm not taking the risk

But Eastern roasties are?

I saw it on that 90 day fiance show. You should check it out no one on it is happy.

Huh? Islam doesn't change your incel status in the slightest.

Islam allows me to travel to a shithole country and buy a wife in a street market

I had a mmo "friend" who married vietnamise like 20 years ago
He just went there and there was hotel restaurant where women used to come and look for foreigners.
You sit in the empty table and wait till someone joins you. You cant just pick them, they pick you. If you dont click you wait till another comes.
You have normal dinner date and if she liked you you come next day to discuss bussiness. For like a 8/10 virgin he paid 8k pounds. He also had to take her 11 years old younger sister to live with them. They had 3 kids, dunno if their marriage lasted , havent heard from the guy since i quit wow. As you figured out, its not for robots and not for poorfags. The online websites are mostly a scam. I would suggest just traveling to the place and pick a hotel thot. Just avoid ukraine and poland.

>just avoid ukraine and poland
What about Belarus? Also, is there a name for that kind of restaurant?

Eastern european women generally are super golddiggers and often dont speak english. You cant just buy them either. They will say that they are looking for normal marriage but they have no intention of staying with you and just want green card. Its basically a gamble with chance for subpar sex with turbo thot, a glorified prostitute if you will. If you are looking for faithful trad woman you would need to learn the language. Those are rare tho. In fact i bet you would find more wife material in US at this point. Degeneracy got eastern block long ago.
I dont know if there is a name for those places. I assume you just need to ask around.

So what's a white city in the South and how do I guarantee fucking anything? All I want at this point is the guarantee. I don't want to play games where the chance of success is one in a billion.

That's just isis lies. Most men there end up having to fuck goats.