Words can never convey the beauty of a tree; to understand it, you must see it with your own eyes.
Language cannot capture the meIody of a song; to understand it, you must hear it with your own ears.
So it is with the Tao: the only way to understand it is to directly experience it.
The subtle truth of the universe is unsayable and unthinkable.
Therefore the highest teachings are wordless.
My own words are not the medicine, but a prescription;
not the destination, but a map to help you reach it.
When you get there, quiet your mind and close your mouth.
Don't analyze the Tao.
Strive instead to live it: silently, undividedly, with your whole harmonious being.
The way
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Very nice OP. I enjoyed it
Fuck the tao.
Can i get the very Oregano map/prescription PLZ??
Now I kno de whey
Daodejing is perfect for robots desu
the Zhuangzhi as well. Great stuff, all around
men hate to be "orphaned", "widowed", or "worthless"
but this is how kings and lords describe themselves
for one gains by losing and loses by gaining
Link to good translations? I can see myself getting into this sort of thinking.
This is so fucking retarded
Just outright say that people who attempt to control others and have constant access to luxury tend to lose kinship with their fellow man and degenerate or stagnate as a result of not having to develop their attributes in order to survive. This "one gains by losing and loses by gaining" bs is a huge oversimplification, is so fucking meaningless and can be misconstrued in a million different ways. It also dangerously glorifies loss and unintelligent self-destruction and it's incredibly arrogant to assume that you could handle it.
I have a physical paper back version but this is a complete catalog of the translations I have read and enjoyed.
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I like chapters 1, 4, 21, 42, 43, 77-78
Honestly the entire thing is perfect just as it is but the above passages are some of my favorite.
The Zhuangzhi is another daoist staple with author(s) unknown.
you've lost the tao, I can't help you. but you can help you
>you don't agree with me so I'm going to imply that you're flawed in some way and that you have to agree with me in order to stop being flawed without actually backing my assertion with any real substance
when's the last time you got laid? if it was recently you probably wouldn't be arguing with strangers on the internet about things you don't understand or that have no meaning whatsoever
just a thought I had
I'm not him but jesus
>you don't agree with me? Wow get laid dude
I don't get this "argument"
>it's incredibly arrogant to assume that you could handle it.
What exactly are you referring to with "it"?
it's not an argument. I posted a daoist quote I enjoy to a separate user mind you and then user started berating me. he deserves whatever observations I can levy at him
>lol you're a virgin
Come on dude. Did you really have to say this when it has nothing to do with the subject at hand and is just a poor jab at him?
no I didn't have to say it. But I did.
I never referenced your character in my post. If I berated anything it was your idea, not you.
it wasn't my idea. it was a quote, so it was a daoist idea....2000 years old idea which you berated. and thus you deserve what came to you next.
Loss
blox
Nice thread, more people need to know the tao
I agree with you then. I'm not sure if that phrase is even in the Tao Te Ching, and if it was i'm fairly sure it's a poetic way of saying what you described.
bro it's copied off the site which has copied the paperback version I actually own and have read, many many times
Do you know what Laozi told Confucius?
>"Men of wealth give money as a gift on such an occasion while men of virtue and knowledge give advice. I had neither money nor virtue. Let me pretend as a man of knowledge only for the moment to say a few words to you, our honourable guest, Confucius. Firstly, what you are studying and teaching now is all from ancient men, who died a long time ago and even their bones have rotted away. Those written words are in fact only their footprints, neither their shoes nor their feet, let alone what was in their minds. Don't regard their words as some sort of unbreakable dogma. Secondly, as a man of virtue and knowledge, you can have your own cart and live a luxurious life. If the time does not permit, it will be perfectly okay as long as you can manage to survive. Thirdly, once I was told of an old saying: a good merchant does not show his goods and a man of utmost virtue is always simple. It will do you good if you cut off your pride, get rid of your greed, reduce your haughtiness, throw away some of your ambitions. It will serve your family better, and it will serve your state better if you are not too stubborn no matter whenever, wherever, and whatever."
Test test test this fucking bullshit
I'm sure I've read that excerpt at some point.
What do you want, now?
It is. Laozi himself was even a hermit.
>he isn't a Daoist
What is your excuse?