How did incels in the past manage to get by without committing mass killings...

modern day makeup caused the hyperinflation of sex. it is the grand delusion. a women wakes up a 4/10 walks out the door a 10/10 and believes herself to be equal to 10/10 male.

>you go girl, you are worth it!
>that is right i am worth it! time to hunt chad.
>4/10 men ask her out, she laughs them off as a creep "I'm worth more, can't he see my makeup?"

>Don't you realize that porn is actually increasing your cravings?
[citation needed]

>daily reminder to always imagine girls as ghouls hiding behind a Halloween mask

Yeah lot of serieral killers in the past.
Men where men and women where women.
Jobs where every where and you could get a house with factory jobs.
Thanks to the internet and immigration, jobs being sold to go over seas and women in the work place jobs are scare and or only minimum wage.
Tack on the fact that every women thinks she's God's gift to the work thanks to make up and Instagram filters you can see why egos get inflated.
Doesn't help when boys from a young age try to one up each other to get into a girls good graces.

Dont talk like a retard.
Porn was everywhere back then, there where movie theaters that showed porn on the big screen.
Play boys and huslers too, fucking idiot.

Yeah lots of porn around in the medieval ages brainlet

they just accepted that they where virgins and worked on themselves to improve their lies. Nowadays with the internet echo chambers were created that reinforced pre established notions of misogyny, victim complex and blaming everyone but yourself in general. Instead of working on becoming a better person, losers just huddle up up with other losers circle jerking until the reality of their shit lives come crashing down on them which usually results in one of the following: Radical change in lifestyle, Suicide or Mass Shootings.

Incels didn't really exist because there was enforced 1:1 matching through cultural assets. Moreover, lonely people would be helped along and matched with equally lonely people of the opposite gender by colleagues, friends and family. Basically the exact opposite situation as right now where instead, you are further bullied and moved away from the opposite gender if you're in that situation.
Furthermore, due to the lack of sexual """liberation""", people did talk about sex and how promiscuous they were and so on and so forth every 5 seconds as a brag. People who did were shunned by society. This decreased pressure significantly.

EVEN THEN some still snapped at some points.

yes aristocrats used marriage as a political tool most of the time but everyone could get married if they wanted.

They became monks

No. Read a book, retardo.

yes, but peasants were also married to each other.
Sure, the best of the peasants (the strongest, most brilliant, and the most beautiful) were appropriated by the nobles, but they usually leave the peasants ALONE (except at tax time).
The modern nation-state is evil because they can't leave its citizens alone. And because 80/20 rule in hypergamy.

makeup causes school shootings

You heard it here first guise

>enforced 1:1 matching
I want to know what history books this board is reading

there werent inceles pre 1900,

you had to be the elephant man or a absolute mental case to not be married.

if you had a job you had a house, and a wife.

Wars and dangerous jobs killed off excess males. Dating market was more orientated towards "provider males" as opposed to "sexy" males.

Social media allowed mediocre to sub-par women access to chad, which made them think they actually had a chance of securing a long-term relationship with him.

t. wizard who has seen the dating market mechanics transform over time.

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basically ban tinder
and stone all sluts

less feminism = less incels

and also less people in general were redpilled about female hypergamy because the internet didn't exist

There were no incels in the past because women weren't bitches back then. Today women have dating apps and Tinder and they can pick and choose from men. Back then all the marriages were arranged. People lived in villages, one family would marry their child to the child of another family.

oh and if a woman acted like a whore, pre 1900, Being disowned was a real threat. There was no, 'Who Cares ' i'll just party and slut it up.

the result was going to be living in and working in a whore house. dying in a gutter, being committed to a mental hospital where, they Didnt pat you on the head and tell you you re a good little slut.

they would beat your ass and force you back into society.

>more orientated towards "provider males"
Incels aren't really "provider males" either so I don't see how that would help

Wizard poster again. There was more assortive prior to the advent of social mating. That nerdy chubby girl you have your eye on? You most likely could have gotten a date with her assuming you were not an absolute ugly or beep boop autist.

Now, this same girl, has hundreds of men telling her she is a goddess the moment she signs into her social media, and very few men tell her otherwise (and the ones that do publically, are dogpiled by the other males).

Pic-related is pretty interesting. Notice how black female celibacy rockets up as soon as social media reached mass proliferation.

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Robots are diverse. I am talking about the male subset where they have a decent career, but are rather mediocre in the looks and personality department. Also, incels is a reddit and msm term. Stop using it.

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>I'm butthurt so I'll project flaws that don't exist on a denomination that is as generic as male vs female

Again, pre 1900, no one would of let you sit at home and jerk off all day. You would of been dragged off to an insane asylum

And you think arranged marriages would benefit incels? In what right mind would parents give their daughter to a loser with no skills, assets, or prospects? What the fuck would they get in return?

You do realize of it were still up to the parents to decide partners for their children, marriages today would be much more materialistic, right?

There was no such thing as incels
Most men used to be Chads by today's standards

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Almost every incel has skills, assets AND prospects. Fuck off normalnigger.

you think your ancestors were Chads and Stacey's

they got married cause one had a job, and the other was going to be shamed into oblivion if she didnt get married

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There isn't any projection on my part. Incels themselves constantly mention how they're NEETs who dropped out of uni or left a workplace because they couldn't function in an environment full of chads and stacies. Pretty evident that they're not suitably equipped to be productive in society.

>you think your ancestors were Chads and Stacey's
I mean compared to today's standards, yeah
People used to be really attractive

yea, definitely

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>reality doesn't real
>my projections are not a projection
You have mental problems dude, go see a psychiatrist asap. Hallucinating like that is not healthy.

I mean those two aren't hideous
Only thing wrong with the man is his facial hair

>they got married cause one had a job, and the other was going to be shamed into oblivion if she didnt get married
LMAO it's too obvious the incels who never read about history think the entire history of civilization was like post WWII America and only one person needed to work to support a household.

Stupid cunt.

They look better than the people you see everyday at Walmart. Everyone now either looks like a Walmart creature or so fake they don't look like a person anymore.

Many women wore little or no make-up back then, dummy.

>NEETs who dropped out of uni or left a workplace
Why work for a system that's fucking shit? How does your logic work nigger.

Incels are a modern issue, it wasn't a thing back then.
Women were afraid of ending up single because it wasn't a good position to be in as a female and they knew that if they slutted around like the women of today do it would lower their value so they kept their legs closed until they found a man.

If you look back beyond the past couple of decades you'll see that even the laziest, most disgusting, most mentally deranged men apparently had no problem getting women. Next time you open a wikipedia article of some historical freak pay attention to his relationship status.

>women are fucking hideous without make up
thank you for pointing that out

Yeah. They don't have the Instagram look where they look pure plastic.

It's literally shit your tards have said yourself. Maybe you need to lurk more.

How the fuck else are you going to become the "provider" you claim to be?

are you talking about some mud hut you live in?

the big difference was that everyone was thin, cause there wasnt much food, and looks match was strictly in force. And you wouldnt be able to function in society if you tried to check out. You'd either wind up in a convent or a mental hospital.

yah, she's just itchign to be on Tinder

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Why do you think I want to be provider for some used up 30 year old whore? That's my option or quitting all together. I will just join the first extremist cause that pops up in west as a result of this current shit show and kill you fucking faggots.

Wrong, people weren't morbidly obese because there wasn't a sugar-based pleasuremaxxing snack industry at the time. Most were fat outside those who ended up having to go to war, just nowhere near today's standards. In particular, being fat was often associated with being in high standing, and chubby women were a lot more desired than thin women for a long time.

And even a lot of thin people have the drugged out meth look

Chubby can look good though if she has some body definition. Back them they walked more and did more physical labor. I'm talking about Walmart hamplanet and undefined fat.

>that increase in black celibacy
Better education or is Tyrone always going for white girls while Erkel only wants Asians?

this is what normal humans looked like, before the Hollywood mind fucking started.

it's interesting to see pictures of people from back then,

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We need walkable cities again so we're not obese. People need to be able to walk to the grocery store, to Pharmacies, to parks, and to entertainment.

This. Incels are exposed to people having sex that they cannot successfully acquire and it's making them even angrier. In the past, an "incel" probably would have devoted that time to hobbies.

why do people take these wide ass screenshots that nobody can read

uhhh no, you would of been at your job 7 days a week. And, if you wanted a wife, even if you were a 1/10 the woman 1/10 who wanted to marry the prince was dragged off by her hair and told she was getting married or going to a convent

The
>tfw no wench
crowd would've become priests or joined monasteries. The celibacy vow isn't that hard to maintain if you're a permavirgin anyway.

Lol what? The argument earlier was about people like you defending the idea that incels made good providers. That's something YOUR side claimed. Not me. Jesus Christ retard.

normphoner btfo

>hurr I have no arguments
>I must resort to insults

Mentally handicapped it is I see.

They could be if dating market wasn't fucked up and state didn't protect women with welfare and in court. Now it's a game not worth playing, and every male not happy with system should not support women in anyway possible. At most you take the mgtow approach to pump and dump whores so they become even more dysfunctional family wise thus destroying the very thing this civilization depends on. With men unmotivated and apathetic to defend the civilization you open up the play field for different and more functional systems that are gonna pop up like the single mothers with intruduction to welfare state.

Oh really? Look, literally people arguing with me that incels made good providers By all means keeping calling me retarded. At this point it's helping my case more than yours.

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Slaves for the most part.

The internet makes the divide between incels and normies much more plainly obvious to the incel.

Before the internet and certainly before television people were comparatively innocent about sex and what others were getting up to and sex wasn't spoken about regularly.

It's easy to be an incel if you can go a whole week if not more without hearing about sex. Today the incel is bombarded with sex and knows exactly what they're missing and isn't allowed to forget it.

spotted the norman phoneposter.

This would supplement the theory though, because not only is wealth a predominant factor over being "alpha", your PARENTS have a huge role in determining the acceptability of your marriage whether it is formally arranged or not. This makes the playing field for "betas" even better.

Sorry I don't speak retard. Can someone translate please?

there were fewer incels because men and women had to look within local communities for marriage partners and there was a lot more social enforcement of both males and females to keep them from deviating too far from the norm.

>Not to mention the ruling class has multiple wives per men. The proportion of single men in the past was much higher.
Retard alert. We're Europeans. Not fucking Saudis.

I want to know what shitty propaganda you've been reading where this is not the case.

The argument is that it was possible for people ugly enough to turn into incels today to not be incels in the past because ability to provide used to be a larger factor in ability to acquire a mate. So if you are a smartcel today you could have much more easily acquired a wife in 1975 because your smarts would lead you to a lucrative job, which is incentivized in the first place because your labor is reciprocated with companionship, sex, intimacy, and possibly a family. Now that these incentives are gone, incels are disproportionately NEETs via a combination of choice and the labor supply being artificially expanded through immigration and outsourcing.

I know I shouldn't get sucked into this, but...

The people that are NEETs now are the people that would have been laborers back then because it was "work or die." I was a NEET for a few years after a severe injury and some major depression. I started out as a motivated person that pushed my life forward, but after seeing the way I was discarded (almost certainly for being a "privileged white male") it really made me want to check out.

I've made some progress in becoming a functioning part of society, but now my goals have majorly shifted. I've lost 150+ lbs, been accepted into a good school, and my goal is to just fuck bitches and have fun, rather than become a family man.

Most of us are now faced with the choice of opting out of the system as a NEET or taking advantage of the cumdumpsters. It's a shame.

Uh no. wealth generally came with status and power. the exception of the past century or two, society before was generally comprised of a minority ruling class, a teeny middle class consisting of merchants and doctors and whatnot, and a huge amount of peasants. Betas weren't rich.

It obviously wasn't perfectly 1:1 but seriously how can you not acknowledge that it was taken much more seriously, was more socially and legally enforced, and things like premarital sex and infidelity were much more stringently punished both socially and legally?

Still waiting for proofs and not Jow Forums memes.

I don't know what shitty propaganda you read where this WAS this case. Were there state sanctioned gfs? Did the government partner men and women off? Please tell me more.

Despite what your reality might be, the vast majority of people are not virgins. Virgin males ages 20 - 24 hover around 15%. Point is, its rare for someone to resort to domestic terrorism and even rarer for someone from that 15% to do it. Even then, shooters aren't always motivated by their incel status. Kaczynski certainly wasn't motivated by lack of sex, despite complaining about it years later.

>Most of us are now faced with the choice of opting out of the system as a NEET or taking advantage of the cumdumpsters. It's a shame.

Stop being shamed into sex or thinking you have to play games with women. I have goals and motivations for selfish reasons, not because I want a pair of tits in my face. It might be selfish whatever, but I want to prove to myself that I am worth a shit.

I mean he was rejected by a coworker female and then acted out on it which resulted him getting fired by his brother. Now it could have been too late for Ted anyway, maybe not who knows. He put a great amount of effort to rationalize his hatred for the current world which seemed to have forget about him thought.

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>Wars and dangerous jobs killed off excess males.

Ive been thinking abut this for a while now. Its almost like the killing of excess males is a by product of wars (most likely unintentional).

Black women are more likely to be educated and highly educated at that. This is actually a problem with women overall now. There are more women in college than men right now and they are graduating with higher degrees too but, they refuse to date down.

For black women it has to be 20x worse. They either end up alone or date a white dude. College educated black men normally aren't as "tyrone" as black women would like them to be.

>It's a shame.
That you at least get a choice? I agree.

Norman logic everybody

I never thought I would agree with a T*rk

Where is the logic in my post? Are you using words you don't understand?