Can marriage work in modern times?

Can marriage work in modern times?

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Yes but only if you enforce no hymen no diamond

That's the problem no one does the fucking no hymen no diamond thing anymore

Did it ever work? Staying in an unhappy marriage for the rest of your life is hardly a better option than having her leave you and steal most of your money.

Ugly vagina.

Pre-feminism era didn't look too bad I guess

If both parties are virgins until they are married. Then it can work in modern times. Pre-marital sex and this pre-marital sex-obsessed culture is the reason why divorce rates are high.

Actually marriage is a very old concept. It only works best if both parties are virgins until marriage. That's why polygamous marriages are healthier than one's where both parties had pre-marital sex and then got married

In short: Marriage can work if both the man and the women are virgins until they are wed. Polygamous marriage is more healthier than monogamous marriages where both the husband and wife have had sex before marrying. :)

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It was actually really good. Now it's gone. IF WE COULD TURN BACK TIMES. TO THE GOOD OLD DAYS OF TRADITIONALISM (but not racism tho fuck that)

Nah that prudery is a fairly recent development, mostly just a Victorian-age fairy tale. For most of history marriage and childbearing was a business arrangement. Pool assets to survive in hard times. Tie two clans together. Or a deal where an impoverished noble gets a replacement fortune by marring a commoner made good, who gets a title in return for the money.

The love and virginity stuff was a meme to sell penny-dreadful romance novels, and you fell for it.

>polygamy
Ew. you fucking creep

Polygamy is completely healthy. It's actually healthier and makes for better marriages than marriages where both spouses have had pre-marital sex.

If the husband can afford more than one wife and he loves them both. Then their shouldn't be a problem with it.

I mean this society is basically one of 'Polyamorous' and cheating sinners. Polygamy is way healthier and better.

Here's my ranking of it

Normal marriage (virgins at time of wedding) > Polygamous marriage > Non-virgin marriage (both had sex many times before marrying)

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That's only partly true. You neglect the aspect of religion. Most religions have marriage as a fundamental part of their beliefs. Pre-marital sex was seen as an act of high degeneracy. It was looked down on.
>The love and virginity stuff was a meme
Love is a meme. There is no such thing. I agree. But virginity is not a meme tho.

That is to say that men were supposed to be with many women, in that aspect, polyamory would be considered scientifically healthy. Though polygamy is morally and scientifically, healthy.

I've been in a MFF relationship for nearly 11 years; and while I don't know if it's inherently 'healthier', it sure is gratifying.

Because girls with a hymen don't exist past the age of 13 anymore.

no. polygamy just isnt normal

>Pre-marital sex was seen as an act of high degeneracy. It was looked down on.
That didn't mean people didn't have premarital sex, or that they didn't cheat on their spouses. That happened all the time. It was just carefully swept under the rug and hushed up for sake of appearances.

It's not that simple. Adultery was punished socially and legally. Likewise modern contraceptive methods and abortion technology did not exist, so sex remained naturally linked to the risk of reproduction. The modern world is not the same as the ancient one, even if you'd like it to be.

>Because girls with a hymen don't exist past the age of 13 anymore.
No, they do; but nearly all of them are either supreme uggos or women who take their virginity very seriously (and therefore aren't going to give it to some whiny loser).

Why is her vagina so weird looking?

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It can, but it's russian roulette at this point.
The government geared it too much in favor of women.
Were marriages like before instead of a threesome with the State, it would work much more often.

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In what way are discussing this? Here are my views.

Religious (Most healthiest to least)
Virgin marriage (both spouses are virgins at the time of marriage) > Polygamous marriage > Non-virgin marriage (either one or both spouses are not virgins) > Pre-marital relationships > Polyamory

Scientific [based on Sciecne] (Most healthiest to least)
Polygamous = Polyamory > Virgin marriage > non-virgin marriage

Your move.

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OP asked.
>Can marriage work in modern times?
I replied marriage could work. but both partners would have to be virgin.

>That didn't mean people didn't have premarital sex, or that they didn't cheat on their spouses. That happened all the time. It was just carefully swept under the rug and hushed up for sake of appearances.
That happens in all societies. The problem is today the high level of infidelity and the acceptance of pre-marital sexual relationships as "normal." Thus, infidelity in marriage is seen as normal.

The issue with premarital sex in relation to marriage is that women are emotionally damaged by sleeping with multiple partners and become less capable of having successful long-term relationships. A woman sleeping with only one other person than her husband will drastically reduce the possibility of having a successful marriage with her.

So basically marriages can only work if women stay virgins until marriage?

It doesn't matter if she is a virgin when she gets married as long as the husband is the only man she's slept with. That being said, a marriage can still work even if she isn't a virgin, it just drastically decreases the odds.

This but with racism

Or, if the man she marries is the best man she's been with. Like if she was with a guy before who was a 5/10, but the guy she marries is a 10/10. But the thing is the more men a woman is with the less possible that is, and the more possible she'll be with a 10/10 at some point. Among other things, women cannot settle down, not truly. So the highest guy she's been with, she can't truly be with any guy lower. She can "settle" and be with a lower guy but it's only a matter of time before she divorces him and takes half his stuff or just straight up starts cucking him.

Basically if a woman has been with Chad, 8/10 or higher, then forever after she can't truly devote herself to any man lower. And if you are lower then you're a true fool to try.

ok. You win pretty reasonable

so she's a picky whore that couldn't even settle with CHAD. and goes around playing with other men's hearts

>, it just drastically decreases the odds.
Which is why the success rate for virgin marriages is better if she is a virgin and stays with one man

Romeo and Juliet and Shakespeare plays had romance. It's an old concept.

Romeo and Juliet is a guide to how relationships should be like.

That only works if you as a 5/10 are a total pissy faggot, make your Gf/wife FEAR you, make them know that if they play their silly woman games with your emotions they will feel the wrath of god and may not live to tell the tale.

God I love living in the rural world, where morality and old-time values are still a thing. It's the 50's plus iphones lads, and it is amazing.

It would be romantic to tell a woman if she ever breaks up with you that you will jump in front of a train and it will be all her fault you died.

>Staying in an unhappy marriage for the rest of your life

Maybe people had more realistic expectations of life back then.

Why marry if it's going to be unhappy? Why not go MGTOW?

Where I'm from (dogfuck nowhere in the bible belt), the latter is way more common. Caveats:
>90% are gone by 20 usually for life
>the remaining 10% are gone by 25 for sure
>if you're not a devout Christian, it's not going to happen

This. Women didn't have an endless buffet of Chads literally at their fingertips.

>Why not go MGTOW?

Because that will probably be unhappy too.
Life is likely to be unhappy regardless of what you do with it.
That's the point.

>fuck and an hiroshima within three days of meeting each other
This.