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he looks like a second-rate magician.

>he looks like a second-rate magician.
lol indeeddddddddd

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I think pick up artists suffer from massive...what's the word, confirmation bias?

Their techniques work, but they're techniques that work on an especially twisted kind of woman who goes to bars and acts slutty.

Pua has been debunked for years, asian-americans proved this. They went full SAT-prep tier on this shit early on and reported the results. The early pua charlatans have all moved on to other scams, like self help books. Just be tall and white, bro.

I used to like him but the more successful he's gotten, the further he's gotten away from people who need his advice the most. If you watch his old videos, he's giving nearly step-by-step instructions but now he just gives basic "just be cool bro/just be funny/get out of your head" tier advice.

His target audience is obviously socially awkward normies now and not robots. If you look in the crowd, it's all 20-something-year-old, average looking white guys. He asks the crowd who has ever had a gf and everyone's hand goes up.

And it's not even him, it's the whole PUA scene. Theyve all switched from using methods to just being naturals and just being cool when there's so much more to getting women than that. Yeah, you can be as cool and chill as you want, but if you have no clue how to keep up a conversation or create/express attraction or how something as simple as flirting even works, just "being cool" will do nothing for you.

Tyler also has these weird r9k tier ideas about women, mostly because he only picks up women in nightclubs and thinks you should to. His view of women is warped because he's going to clubs full of drunk, slutty women who are looking to get fucked. He assumes all women are at bars having one night stands and that it's normal and all women cheat on their bfs because he's fucked some barslut.

He's slipped up once while talking about Beyonce, saying that she's probably picky about who she has sex with and then said "w-well, she's probably had a one night stand, all girls have". No Tyler, she probably hasn't. She's a black girl with a strict father from a Southern Christian household. I highly doubt she had one night stands.

If you actually want to learn something from the internet about women, I would suggest reading PUA articles pre-2012. The techniques may be autistic and corny but a lot of them work (eye contact, touching aka "kino", light negging, push-pull, storytelling) and are better advice than "just be cool bro"

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The tricks and game plays they were peddling were scams, yes. But while looks are important, female sexuality is less visual than male sexuality, meaning if you live a good lifestyle and communicate effectively, it can go a long way. Which is why the books I mentioned here: are good. They literally just help you focus on developing yourself.

If you're a hideous little retard like the Eggman, yeah, you're going to have a really tough time. But note how he didn't have any success whatsoever until he started to get his shit together.

I only respond because when you say they get into self-help, it sounds like you're talking about Mark Manson, but he's actually one of the good ones.

You're very naive about women and I don't even like that guy at all. Most women have had one night stands. There is a huge difference between a girl that is always out at bars/clubs and a girl that doesn't go out often but gets bored one day after work on a friday and wants to hook up.

>With his keto diet and zoloft he turned morbidly obese too.

That's bullshit.

Im not naive, I've just spent time around a lot of different kinds of women. You think a lot of women just get out of work on a Friday and want to go suck a dick? And if they do, do you think they're not doing it regularly?

There are a lot of girls who aren't even interested in being in clubs like that but if a girl is going out on a Friday night specifically looking for dick, then she's the type who spends a lot of time in clubs.

>Tyler also has these weird r9k tier ideas about women, mostly because he only picks up women in nightclubs and thinks you should to. His view of women is warped because he's going to clubs full of drunk, slutty women who are looking to get fucked.

I agree.

He even says that he goes out 5-6 times a night clubbing for over a decade.

Although they do 'day game' the majority of their stuff seems to be based on night clubs. Like you say, they literally judge women based on nightclub culture.

Pick up, going as far back to newsgroups was always a white/asian guy endeavor. Mainly due to only nerdy whites and asians being o the internet back then. You could tell back then that the "Eureka, it works", crowd were white guys, and the people with literal charts being frustrated were asian guys.

The funny thing is, the asian guys moved to sex tourism boards en masse.

The author of the book had said being asian in the west is pretty much a death sentence, wish I saved the source on that. His advice was, "be ok with being celibate."

Go to a brothel, decent chance a female you meet there will be a whore. Nightclubs are where females willing to have same day sex congregate. Asians figured this out decades ago, they also figured out these females are racist against asians. Thus sex tourism.

Keto diet is legit you mongoloid

i've been to one of his free seminars with two of the other faggots. he is actually genuinely a socially skilled dude. he knows his shit. i believe that through extreme trial and error he actually cultivated a good personality besides being a ginger faggot, but most people don't have the balls/determination to do what he did.