Been in psych ward 8 times

long term exercise will help you better than any medication

Alright, my throwaway is [email protected].

I work with a schizoaffective woman, she hears voices in her head that told her to kill her kids with a knife (she didn't tho.) Well, she also does meth too, so there's that... but anyhoo, she seems real normal and cooperative with me, I'm just a bit scared when I'm around her, especially since she's taller than me and looks like a henchwoman.

The point of my story, anonimo, is that there is hope for you too.

I don't know where to start with exercise. I know diet is a huge part of it but what meals do I cook?

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dont worry about diet yet. that will just give you an excuse to distract yourself. Worry about diet when you stop making progress.
How old are you? Sometimes the best exercise is something you will stick with. Try a sport you would find fun but not stressful. Tennis, biking, weight lifting. all have great guides on the internet for apsulte beginners.
I am so sickof pych Doctors, they will give us 5 pills a day to take but wont give us the most natural and healthy advice, exercise

I have schizophrenia and a mixture of depakote and a monthly invega sustenna injection has worked wonders on me. Only this year after school got stressful did I start having some breakthrough symptoms a bit such as hearing voices again. No hospitalizations after starting it. Before that I was hospitalized 4 times.

I'm 24, I'm also around 55kg so if I wanted to bulk up I'd have to eat like a horse. And I agree, believe me I do. The pills mask the symptoms but do not address the cause.

I have monthly 400ml aripriprazole injections and I take 3x 500mg sodium valproate tablets daily.

Hope is a useless emotion anyways, it causes unbearable pain when you lose it, and it dosn't do anything when you succeed. Just cut it loose now.

Get SSI and food stamps like I did and just stop giving a fuck.

>caring what jew psychiatrists say

They diagnosed me with schizophrenia 10 years ago as a teen.

Haven't heard, seen, or been paranoid about a damn thing.

Protip: They just want your money user.

Unironically, there is alway hope. Schizoaffective ain't so bad. You posted your feel because you hope. I'm kinda drunk riht now, but lucid enough to,give digital hug. Brave the incoherence, OP. You shall rise to the occasion of life, give it time.

Listen to this OP. Don't let hope become a memory.
youtube.com/watch?v=8UjB3v_qTTo

>spent 2 years in a psych rehab
Tell me more about it please. Were you completely isolated from the outside world for whole 2 years or did they allow some kind of breaks?
I'm asking cuz my best friend is in a rehab for half a year already and I miss him so much

As a note: They play heavily off human psychology to sell their bullshit.

Schizophrenia, if you look up the definition, is a blanket term for a wide range of symptoms, many of which 99% of the population has one or the other.

Furthermore, the diagnosis of this recently made up "disease" creates paranoia in the brain as to having the disease, the person will begin to search for things that are not there, and create the symptoms described.

All of these things can be healed with prayer, exercise, proper nutrition, and healthy surroundings. Don't be fooled into giving money to the psychiatric jew. They have a wide range of torture methods that do no good and have only harmed millions of innocent people, such as turning people into zombies through powerful drugs, electroconvulsive "therapy", and even lobotomy.

I honestly think all involved should be hanged for their crimes against humanity. It is despicable and an abomination. They take the poorest and weakest of souls and destroy them for a profit, a billion dollar profit.

It really depends on which rehab you go to, they all offer different programs. The one I went to was shit, they woke you up at around 7 to drive you to a drop-off centre where you sat around for 4 hours talking aka doing nothing, that was the standard week. There was chores, there was people taking turns doing the dishes and cooking etc.

There WAS some cool shit, like barbecues on Sundays and trips on Fridays, but the funding was cut for those. Just depends whether or not the rehab your friend is in is government-run or not - I find the government-run ones are shittier.

My god... that's the first time I've seen the full picture of that. That's horrifying.

What do you want an award?

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>Schizophrenia is a mental disorder characterized by abnormal social behavior and failure to understand reality. Common symptoms include false beliefs, unclear or confused thinking, hearing voices that others do not, reduced social engagement and emotional expression, and a lack of motivation.People with schizophrenia often have additional mental health problems such as anxiety, depressive, or substance-use disorders. Symptoms typically come on gradually, begin in young adulthood, and last a long time.

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>one day they cut you off

Get Gene Sight testing done. It can help you figure out your medications. It's a genetic test done with a swab of your inner cheek and they give you a list of medications and their interactions with your genes including predicted effectiveness.

That's a dog's face photoshopped onto a dead walrus user.

>Schizophrenia is a mental disorder characterized by abnormal social behavior and failure to understand reality. Common symptoms include false beliefs, unclear or confused thinking, hearing voices that others do not, reduced social engagement and emotional expression, and a lack of motivation.

They managed to cover

>eccentricity
>stupidity
>wrongthink
>stupidity
>mental illness/possibly ghosts
>misanthropy/social anxiety
>depression
>symptom of depression

Now, let us pretend for one second that this blanket disease actually exists, why then do we not fix the underlying issues causing these problems, instead of "solving" it by conveniently giving victims overpriced pills for immediate and longterm profit while damaging the victim's brain chemistry beyond repair?

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That isn't the actual diagnostic criteria for schizophrenia though. You basically have to hallucinate to be diagnosed.

The term schizophrenia was coined by Blueler and Kraeplin. They were contemporaries of Freud. It's not new. The diagnosis is over 100 years old.

>You basically have to hallucinate to be diagnosed.
That is entirely incorrect. I was diagnosed for schizophrenia based off of my displeasure which I pointed out to the psychiatrist about his treatments, he perceived this as antisocial and slapped me with schizophrenia then and there.

They tried to get me on anti-psychotics as a result after diagnosing me. I accepted their pills for the remainder of my stay but disposed of them out of sight.

I left that place, never looked back. 10 years later and I have literally none of the symptoms they described. Except for being antisocial of course, I fucking hate humans and they reaffirmed that one to a T. In fact, the only reason I'm here is to find one of the common threads here discussing these activities.

>trusting Sigmund Freud, a jew

found the victim. I'm so sorry for your grey matter loss.

Do you wanna discord? I really need someone that is more like me.

I didn't say they collaborated with Freud. They were contemporaries. Bleuler actually disagreed with a lot of Freud's teachings.

I don't have discord since my old 2004 computer can't run it well, but my throwaway email is here if you need it, feel free to send a message.

>I didn't say they collaborated with Freud.
And I did not mention them.

>Bleuler actually disagreed with a lot of Freud's teachings.
This is irrelevant because it is all founded in pseudoscience. These people still believe inducing seizures, pumping you full of prescribed meth, and chopping off parts of your brain to "help" (make money off) you is the right choice of action, fuck even trying therapy or, I don't know, being healthy. Just chop off their brain instead.

I am truly, truly, sorry for the victims. I saw what they did in my stay there and I wish something could be done about it. If you have a mental illness you need help, and I mean real help, someone who you can talk to, and help you to live a healthy life, not use you to make money off of you.

I am so sorry user.

Yea this is why I avoid psychiatrists like a plague, i'm going to a rehab soon and plan to lie my ass off to avoid been labelled with any other mental illness. I can't really hide the depression and anxiety as much but when it comes to other parts of my mental health like the way I think, believe, feel and behave can be disguised for brief periods to come as more normal than I actually am.

Biggest fear right now is actually been forced into a psych ward without consent as well forced to take medications that I don't want to take

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Freud was an atheist. Read The Future of An Illusion by him.

>lie my ass off to avoid been labelled
Why? The more fucked you appear the greater odds at bux.

>Every time I try to make something of myself and improve
Do you stop taking the medications in this process?

I'm afraid you can't quit cold turkey my friend, they have you. You need to very slowly wean yourself off it, even cutting your tablets in half and in fourths.

Try exercising, eat plenty of vegetables, get sunlight, think POSITIVE thoughts, do POSITIVE things, avoid masturbation.

I presume they've put you on the anti-psychotics, so you'll need to slowly wean off and give your dopamine receptors a chance to heal, they'll likely never reach normal levels, but enough for you to lead a decent enough life.

I'll pray for you.

>Freud was an atheist. Read The Future of An Illusion by him.
And he is Jewish by nature.

Wrong.
This guy is right. DSM 5 is the greatest fuckry tool every made.
And if you knew how things like ssris permently affect the neurotransmitter receptors in your brain you would want psychiatrics burned down.

user from the second post here. Were you a victim of one of these tools? If you are, I have been reading some interesting articles about neurogenesis, which may help to restore normal brain function over time.

>Do you stop taking the medications in this process?
Damn, picked that straight away. Unfortunately I am on an injection at the moment, so I can't wean off until I get the all-clear from the psychiatrist to go on orals. Have to wait around 3 months too, since I live rural and the psych only comes around once every 3 months. Thanks for your insight and prayers.

You mentioned Freud. Freud didn't have much to do with the creation of the diagnosis "schizophrenia". Bleuler, I agree had his problems. He was a eugenicist. The diagnosis and its treatment has evolved a lot since then. My point was its not a new diagnosis though.

Yeah I was, and I am really interested

>And he is Jewish by nature.
Whatever the fuck that means. There's nothing wrong with being Jewish anyway.

>Damn, picked that straight away. Unfortunately I am on an injection at the moment, so I can't wean off until I get the all-clear from the psychiatrist to go on orals.
If I may, can you tell me what they prescribed you? There are certain medications that are literally designed to cause these issues when you are taken off of them. I'm afraid they've got you by the root here, you are essentially a heroin addict at this point. It will still be possible help yourself from this point, but any attempt to wean off of your current drug, if it is the drug I think it is, will cause these types of episodes as a side effect of being weaned off of it.

Did they do orals first at least?

There is nothing wrong with talk theory, but pills are such a crock, except for real outlining hard cases.
Fried did use Cocaine with his patients though.

The study I'm linking is a very good source, but the information is sprinkled throughout the entire article making it poor for quoting. So I linked another article below for it.

"In the 1970s, American researcher Michael Kaplan was conducting experiments on mice, in which some had stimulating toys and exercises in their cages, and others did not. As a result, Kaplan found that the animals that were involved in cognitive tasks demonstrated increased brain cell growth and enhanced activity in their mature neurons.

Moreover, Kaplan concluded that the mechanism of neurogenesis, or the formation of new brain cells, was based on stem cells turning into brain cells, not the mature neurons replicating. This type of cells remains in the human brain for lifetime, which means that it is possible to grow new neurons at any age."

I believe this is incredibly important because this could mean that the various synapses damaged by SSRIs can be reversed over time, albeit, a long period of time. As hard as it may be, and as pointless as it may seem, you need to stimulate the brain through various activities like crossword, riddles, puzzles, piano, meditation, and other activities. I am confident that this may help to heal a lot of the damage done by these drugs.

acnp.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/CH8_109-118.pdf
learning-mind.com/meditation-proven-to-rebuild-the-brain/ learning-mind.com/neuroscience-reveals-the-secrets-to-unlocking-your-brains-potential/
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3106107/

Bonus article I just found: healingnaturallybybee.com/do-antidepressants-permanently-rewire-the-human-brain/

Aripriprazole injections, I believe the common term for them is Abilify.

They did orals at first, but because of my defiance in taking the medication they placed me on a community treatment order, which has now expired.

The next time I see the psychiatrist, there is talk about putting me on orals so I guess it's another waiting game.

who /bipolar 1/ here?

i think I'm finally going to take the plunge to get on the gibsmedat gravy train, I no longer have much of a choice

also how often do you guys drink? we're not supposed to ever drink but I straight up told my psychiatrist I'd rather be dead than not get drunk occasionally and he just kind of laughed it off and said that he can't blame me. he then told me to "be careful" with it. which I interpreted as a tacit approval of having the occasional drink.

Start studying and practicing the occult and black magic. If you're going to be a crazy person at least do some crazy shit.

And you think people who have been institutionalized multiple times aren't hard cases? This is coming from a "hard case" that has been institutionalized multiple times himself, was drug resistant, and eventually got better through injections and pills. Talk therapy is more of a waste of time most days.

Here's an instructional video for witches and wizards.
youtube.com/watch?v=Zv0v0VCVgJ4

No. Hard cases actully hear voices. You are just in their system

>They did orals at first, but because of my defiance in taking the medication they placed me on a community treatment order, which has now expired.
The most important thing to do, for anyone reading this, if you are in this situation you MUST pretend to cooperate with them, even if you spit out the pills. Uncooperation will lead to far worse "treatments" (punishments). Watch "One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest" for a very real look into how they treat mental illness.

As for you. Oh man, I'm afraid you'll have to ride this one out. Even if you are administering the medication yourself, tapering off an anti-psychotic like Abilify is bad, the side effects are extreme but will be even more extreme if you attempt to wean yourself off alone. I'd stick with the doctor, and once you've transitioned back to oral you get the fuck out of there.

If the doctor still thinks you need to be treated (i.e. still money to be made off you), first thing you need to do is

>a. cancel your insurance
If you live in the USA they tend to cancel "treatment" immediately if you can't pay
>b. pretend like you're the complete opposite of who you are now
They don't give a fuck about in what way you act, (aside from the obvious) just that you act differently to when they diagnosed you.

I'm sorry user, but just remember you aren't alone. There are millions out there like you.

God damn it. You could have at least posted some real nigga shill shit like EA Koetting or Michael Ford.

I have heard voices, had visions, and tactile hallucinations and they stopped for the most part with the medicine

>He was a eugenicist
There's absolutely nothing wrong with eugenics.

I'm sorry. I have a soft spot for Jenny. She looks like my ex from 10 years ago and has a similar sense of humor.

>I have heard voices, had visions, and tactile hallucinations and they stopped for the most part with the medicine
Can I ask you what your childhood was like? Were there any certain references to the occult? When did the voices start? Did the symptoms set in during late teens and early adulthood? What exactly did you see and hear?

ok troll

What meds are you on user? My brother is bipolar and honestly the meds completely lobotomize him. Like lay in bed all day lobotomize. The only times in his life when he was semi functional was when he was off his meds. Not for long, obviously. His doctors say they can't do anything foe him and that he just has to live with the side effects.

She's adorable for sure but social media wiccans get me worked up every time. I honestly don't even know what the fuck Jenny's ever even talking about. Pop culture nonsense but qt. She should do asmr tbqhfam

I'm prescribed lithium and zyprexa. the zyprexa snows the shit out of me so I just don't take it. but I have to make pretend that I'm still on it and still pick them up at the pharmacy. if I tell my psychiatrist that I refuse the zyprexa they threaten to drop me as a patient. so it's all or nothing kind of deal. so I just end up taking 900 mg of lithium a day. it's not bad. but an antipsychotic on top of it is simply not doable for me. and there is no real benefit. but my psychiatrists simply don't want to hear it.

>too stupid to argue against eugenics
>lol troll

They started after I left my first college halfway through freshman year. My childhood had nothing to do with the occult. The most occult thing that happened in childhood was when I was in 4th grade I hallucinated my gameboy playing the Lavender Town theme from Pokemon and my father said I was playing Pokemon too much. No hallucinations from then until 19 years old. After that hallucinated a bunch of people I had been cut off from, people laughing at me, calling my name, telling me I'm beautiful and do "good work", telling me to call a suicide hotline and a bunch of other stuff.

She's not a Wiccan. She's just fucking around. She mostly does movie reviews about Star Wars and nerdy stuff.

>she should do ASMR
ask and you shall receive
youtube.com/watch?v=3QcjAmnDTos

Interesting. If I can ask a few more, and yes I am trying to diagnose you, but help you by getting to the root of the problem, not pills.

Did your mother use any drugs, drink, smoke, or take birth control when she was pregnant with you? What are your eating habits? What were your eating habits like at the beginning of the symptoms? Do you regularly exercise? Have you experimented with any illegal drugs? Do you ever hear buzzing in your ears? (particularly your left ear). Do you feel as if these thoughts are "implanted"? And finally, is there any trauma or major event that occurred in your childhood or near the time of these occurrences?

The adoption agency I'm pretty sure said my birth mother didn't do drugs or anything. I exercise regularly. Ran a lot in high school. Weight lift and run now. Never felt like my thoughts were "implanted" whatever that means. One grandfather died when i was 7, Adoptive father died when I was in 5th grade, Other grandfather died when I was in high school. Symptoms started around leaving college freshman year Coincided with end of a relationship. Hallucinated that ex after returning home. One grandmother died while I was dealing with early symptoms. That brings us up to the onset 10 years ago. Never touched illegal drugs, alcohol beyond a couple sips, or nicotine. My birth father's family has a history of mental illness. He has Bipolar and his mother has schizophrenia. We had a reunion when I turned 21.

ohh dear she wasn't very good at it :(

>>been in psych ward 8 times
>>spent 2 years in a psych rehab
>>diagnosed schizoaffective disorder
>
>Is there any hope or should I crush that feeling away?
More and more research is done about palliative to schizo symptoms. L-theanine, sarcosine, Ginkgo biloba, D-serine, glycine, s-adenosyl methionine, all of those compounds have veen found to decrease schizo symptoms. Hang in there op and take care of your mind (and take a screenshot of my shits, you better find yourself helpful supplements than wait for them to be prescribed by doctors, their procedures is always extremeley slow, you're better off reading articles on PubMed yourself

So, like you already know, it is likely genetic. Unfortunately I can't actually diagnose shit over this board. I'd advise doing some research on it, as other environmental factors can weigh in on the illness heavily that you may have neglected to mention. I could ask you some questions but it is getting late where I live and this appears to be most likely genetic.

Some food for thought though, if you are prone to obsessing over things, you can trigger delusions in your brain by obsessing over the thought of you having a mental illness, just as people see things out of the corner of their eyes after watching a ghost movie. The human brain is a powerful thing, and I would urge you do the research necessary to see that it functions optimally. I will pray for you and hope that you can find an alternative and less destructive method to deal with your illness. God bless.

Thanks for this conversation and your sentiments

What the fuck that sounds like me except for voices

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>schizo this
>schizo that
>I'm a schizo!

Fuck this board.

Maybe you keeo having to go to the ward multiple times because you don't accept it? Better embrace it and work from there