Read the retarded reddit wiki reddit.com/r/steroids/wiki/index before even thinking about asking your absolutely retarded questions. Then get DYELs to answer them.
Even as internet doctors we can't tell you how to dose your AI.
Oral only cycles are awesome and you're awesome for considering them.
ABSOLUTELY NO SOURCE TALK. Previously on pink dildos and rimjobs:
Do you wait until you have 0.5ml left before you reorder
Ryder Wilson
No but I wait until the current thread reaches the bump limit before creating a new one. Jow Forums isn't an extremely fast board, your thread won't be deleted in 2 minutes.
Zachary Richardson
are people genetically predisposed to gyno? how is it that arnold never had gyno when, presumably, at the time there wasn't anything like the knowledge we have now about AIs and SERMS?
Dylan Rivera
Tits or Osteoporosis
How about you just don't fuck with your hormones.
Jaxson Martinez
Your soi boi genes give you tits
Sebastian Long
Well for starters they were not taking anywhere near the levels of "drugs" today's wannabees are taking.
Easton Ross
How about you kill yourself nigger faggot 100mg of dbol a day would grow tits on you with your faggot cuckold genetics
Andrew Brooks
This. Back then 200-300mg was a cycle. Probably because they didn't have internet meatheads telling them >that's basically TRT bro xD Hmm if only they would make selective estrogen drugs that prevent gynecomastia yet negatively impact bone density
Wyatt Myers
never had gyno thank fuck, but I find it weird that people go crazy on AIs when no one back then used anything like that
dorian yates?
Julian Reed
*dont
Aiden Brown
What roid will give you the most aesthetic results with the less side effects?
Arnold admited using 2g a week but stay delusional you dyel fuck
Jack Thomas
[titation needed] The least amount of T you can get away with combined with anavar/turinabol/nandrolone/primobolan/boldenone
Julian Martin
Yates and Arnold are from different era's of body building.
Jayden Parker
Most wannabees have no idea whats in the vial or what the AI pill they are taking actually contains.
The vast majority of people that take these drugs are not medically monitored.
Dominic Barnes
Arnold was 70-80s and Yates was 80s-90s, not that far off from each other.
Cameron Smith
Yates was leaner, 40lbs heavier and used growth hormone+insulin
Julian Wilson
In professional sports that an eternity.
Carson Carter
You're not wrong but what's your point?
Christian King
yes, but neither of them used AIs. how the fuck did yates with his insane regimen not grow ovaries when now mr olympia has to take soylent flavored AI along with their 2gs of ethanate?
Cooper Fisher
The point is it doesn't matter of good drugs exists the reality is hardly anyone is using them. Making this a huge minefield.
Not only that but even those on pharma drugs. A huge number of Dr's have no idea how to manage even real TRT let alone a real cycle.
The risks for anyone who is not a professional athlete is simply to much.
Jose Green
ARE YOU BREHS ALPHA ENOUGH TO EAT A CHICKS ASS ON THE BEACH?
>Dylan Gaymelli claims all SARMs in capsules are prohormones and they can only be sold as liquids >brings out new line of SARMS in capsules desu whoever buys SARMS from someone who looks like an AIDS patient probs deserved to get scammed
Luke Stewart
Springbreak
Daniel Jones
>someone's daughter >someone's future wife
Isaiah Campbell
The gross part is she probably took a shit earlier that day and now he's ingesting the remnants.
Asher Gray
wow that hit hard
Henry Perez
Yeah I mean spring break diet is basically fast food and alcohol so it was probably disgusting.
Thomas James
Paging apoc Should I be using nebivolol or an angiotensin inhibitor to prevent LVH and BP gains?
Michael Perez
# >I am your god >picture named after me I see you can't get me off your mind. How cute
This is sort of an open ended question/discussion starter for anyone with knowledge on steroid use and how it may have changed over the decades.
What is it that differentiates guys like Arnold who was massive in his prime but still looked healthy vs modern bodybuilders who look freakish? Was there any difference in typical cycles or cruising cocktails back then? What were the older bodybuilders doing differently?
I've been lifting for a few years and want to do a cycle this fall. I'd love to work towards a Frank Zane look and not the look that you frequently see amongst people who roid these days. Pic related, Arnold was fucking huge but he doesn't look freakish, he just looks fantastic.
Apologies if that's too vague or retarded of a question or whatever.
Arnold wanted big but aesthetic. He got it. Currently in bodybuilding, the way they are rated is basically size = better, and veins = better. So a guy looking like a freak of nature with every single vein visible will win
Lincoln Cruz
It's all the fucking turbo androgens. They rape your skin and health in general.
Stay off the tren and you'll probably be fine.
Jaxson Foster
GH/insulin
Aaron Kelly
HGH and insulin
Julian Campbell
>I want to do a cycle but don't wanna get BB huge! You are literally worrying over nothing. Most people who roid don't look like they lift, never mind use steroids. You're like those normies that "just want to get toned bro, not big" and women who worry going near a barbell will turn them into mr. Olympia overnight.
Noah Cox
How long should bp take to come down? I'm currently at 145/80 at one month from final dose.
I'll think I'll get a cholesterol test, but I want to wait for another month ago I can get test levels checked at the same time to see if I've recovered.
Cycle was 200mg tren a plus 200mg test e per week.
If you think one cycle will get you anywhere that tier, you are very sadly mistaken
Ayden Walker
Arnold used a scalpel to cure his predisposition for gyno
Robert Watson
Just use another breh there's tons of good sources nowadays Seems to me like insulin is the gamechanger Also high androgen very low e2 for long periods of time. This is what likely causes them to age so rapidly
Josiah Watson
objectively wrong, kys you fucking dyel
Asher Flores
Interesting
Thanks for the input
Nah, I'm not delusional, guys who get that big work at it for years and years. I was just using them as an example. What I'm saying is that you'll even see guys on instagram who are in their mid to late 20s and just....look like shit. Their skin looks unhealthy, they look like their liver is going to give out, they just have an unhealthy pallor to them. They're big and vascular but clearly what they're doing is wrecking their shit.
If I get on that there celltech I figure I'm in for a long ride so I don't want to fuck my shit up is all.
Jordan Harris
Don't skip cardio For the casual steroid user cardio can work wonders to change how you look. Also they look like they have liver failure because they probably do... Do not drink while on orals. Tons of people do it and """seem""" fine but as you can see they pay for it down the road. Most people taking steroids are retards. It's easy to not end up like them if you have half a brain
Christopher Moore
it's because like most faggots here, he doesn't even look like he lifts, let alone roid
Jackson Hernandez
Why does it make you guys so mad though I dont get it I'll admit its kind of funny and pathetic but it makes you guys so mad for some reason kek
Henry Ward
C O P E
Jonathan Bailey
Because you pretend to know shit and make an effort to be noticed.
Oliver Campbell
because you're fucking tiny yet want to be an """""""authority"""""""" on gear, even though you clearly have no idea what you're talking about
But why does it make you MAD You guys need to chill out
Levi Ortiz
you're fucking retarded and deflecting like every other dyel on this fucking general when called out on being absolute shit at lifting, diet, and steroids
seriously, fucking kill yourself faggot
Ryder Nguyen
Because DYEL faggots are a fucking disgrace to our race dumb fuck. Injecting everything you can lay you hands on and look worse than a natty
YOU MAKE US LOOK LIKE SHIT FAGGOTS CANCER FAGGOT. If i ever see a dyel roider like you irl i will skullfuck you to death and then cum on you brain
Caleb Hernandez
I don't tho I use very conservative doses of test You can try but you'll probably need a ladder kek
Owen Richardson
Because your wrong knowledge is damaging to people who don't know any better. And I don't want to be confronted with the fact that subhuman filth like you is allowed to exist, let alone allowed onto the internet.
Remove yourself.
Lucas Mitchell
then get the fuck off /fraud/ and stop giving advice about shit you know absolutely nothing about, go hang out on Jow Forumstestosterone like the rest of the TRT faggots
like jesus christ you're a fucking embarassment, at least masT as a manlet looks like he's seen the inside of a weight room before in his life you absolute genetic failure
Ethan Jackson
>being this mad at strangers on a kenyan tapestry-weaving mailing list Did a dyel steal you gf in high school kek
Hudson Rogers
>deflecting this hard hoping everyone will forget you and your dangerously inaccurate information in a hope to impress people who actually lift and run compounds on a gay hookup site
legit just take the exit bag desu
Thomas Wood
Why are you not ashamed of yourself? Any being worth respecting would be.
You literally make me feel ashamed to be human. That's why you make people angry.
Connor Peterson
what makes you think you are big? you are literally 100kg of bloat
Jaxson Kelly
100 kg? you do realize masT is like 5'2 right?
Grayson Lewis
This lmao Eating ass on the beach? Alpha as Fuck It's no wonder the majority of you are twigs you just don't have it in your genetics to be a fucking MAN
Benjamin Garcia
Can we get rid off of this bald midget already? You must be a real nobody in life when you stay where you are unwanted.All report this piece of shit and just get him BANNED, watching him type anything raises my gag reflex
That doesnt change that you had to talk about your feelings to get it up and fuck the obese roastie thot
Colton Edwards
Every dose you use with that physique is beyond pathetic
I was bigger natty than you will ever be on roids. So there goes your worthless argument
yet again btfo by the only one god
No i am 108 kg+ kg of bloat now bb
don't get it twisted
Christopher Clark
But at the end of the day even an off night for me was an experience this girl will never forget I guess that just goes to show I truly am god
John James
>hurr durr I posted this in the old thread >hurr durr nano makes no gains Yet I feel like I'm still bigger then a good deal of you. Prove me wrong, I like to be humbled.
That depends. How much do you weigh (I won't even bother asking height because fraud posters will give themselves up to half a foot)
Jaxson Miller
Get a qt gf and stop inflating the ego of fattys How do i get a qt gf(male)?
Adrian Johnson
I don't even know atm. I guess 82-84kg range. I'm 5'7 which is known and nothing to brag about.
Bentley Morales
working on it breh at least you look like you lift, but arent you running a pretty heavy cycle? Why not eat more and GROW
Matthew Reed
How big are those guns (circumference)? >Moooods! Septicanon is posting about steroids again! Do you you realize how retarded you sound
Joseph Wright
>tfw 78kg I will soon outbloat nano
William Watson
500mg test, 400mg deca. Nothing too heavy. I just recovered from a flu and making gains again. Vacation coming up so I can eat, lift and sleep to my hearts content.
Close to 40cm.
Evan Smith
huh how long have you been on that cycle? Do you notice any difference between that and just a test only cycle? Im still deciding between test deca and test tren for my next blast
Parker Nguyen
Is that flexed or relaxed? t. 34-35cm relaxed
Nathan Hernandez
Been on since mid November. I can't run test high so deca and tren are a godsent. If you want lots of mass: deca. If you want to look good and put on some mass: Tren.
Thomas Flores
Wrong, septfag is shitposting larping again.Fucking unwanted nobody, unwanted pregnancy from your mother i bet that used up dirty whore wanted to flock your ass.You mentioned all these steroid forums but you are stuck to us, like shit gets stuck on the shoe, or a parasite on the host. FUCKING LEAVE ANNOYING ASS PIECE OF SHIT NOBODY DIE FROM AN INFECTION CANCER HEAD
Nathaniel Miller
Mostly flexed no pump. No excesive flexing to reach a peak.
Chase Lopez
Seriously get a tanktop with thinner bands
It will make a huge difference
>34-35cm relaxed LMAO !!!!my forearms are 38cm, holy fuck bigger than your arms
I'll wear these down first. It'd suck ass to get good ones now to not be able to wear them down the road.
Thats some nice forearm measurements.
Mason Allen
but did you ever run test only? How does deca/test compare to test only? Thing is my goal is strength not size. Im not adverse to gaining size but strength is the priority. Some say deca is good because of the ligament and joint protection/healing some say tren because of the aggression and "instant" increased strength. Id also run var with tren or dbol with the deca but i got a lot of time until that. Still on my first blast. Dont think ill be using that clomid or nolva i got for pct anytime soon either
Matthew Price
Your cruise is also my blast.. your point being? >inb4 I was bigger than you natty doing pull ups in my room etc etc
Blake Long
But your forearms are pure synthol and septica is thight solid cancer cells
Christopher Robinson
>This is the educated fuck giving advice here and calling people DYELS >t.34cm relaxed, more like 29 fag
nice shoulders BUAHAHAHAHAHA
nice overall package, you are ftm right? BUAHAHAHAHAH