Rage at rejection

Do you live under a rock? A cave, perhaps? Read the news, buddy.

>responsibility for one's actions
What do you mean? She rejected you, she is taking responsibility for rejecting you. You think this gives you a right to physically attack her. How?

Just tell him at once, faggot. Stop beating around the bush.

Why shouldn't a man have ANY reaction to rejection despite his feelings being hurt? Normalfags usually berate those who don't want to keep being friends with a woman after that, going as far as calling them vile for trying to cross the friendzone.

how about you stop being little whiny bitches and stop killing people because some girl rejected you.

loling at this beta white knight faggot
just let nature run its course, user

>disqualified you as a man
Wew lad

>killing
There goes the normalfag overblowing it.

Her choice of rejecting the guy - in the most recent incel shooting case - in an, allegedly, derisive and humiliating manner, had the direct consequence of her life ending.
Did her alleged rights stop the bullet in mid air? Did it resurrect her? No? Actions have consequences, and being a dumb teenage roastie, she didn't stop to think through the potential consequences of her actions before making them. She paid with her life as a direct consequence of her actions.
She does not have a right to be free from the responsibility of her actions, and the consequences they create. You do not have a right to have your cake and eat it, too.

>It's not natural however to take this anger out on her or other people.
yes it is lol

>She does not have a right to be spared of the consequences of her decision, mongrel.
Your IQ is below 70

Lol, so, OP, some 500lb ugly girl comes up to you and asks you on a date. You say "no thanks". She flies into a furious rage and screams at you. By your logic you would just have to sit there and take it because, after all, she is justifiably angry that you have disqualified her as a woman.

This is you. You are that braindead nigger. God have mercy on your dumbass soul

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Its funny how normalfags tell you to men up but the moment you beat them down they call you a psycho - which is hypocrit as fuck

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And when people who criticize Islam get beheaded by terrorists? Do you apply that same logic?

Man or woman, you are completely entitled to feel disappointed and angry over rejection. You may even attack the person who rejected you, but there will be consequences, obviously. Nobody says you have to sit and take it like a bitch, but that does not mean you get to control the reaction of the person in question who is being rejected.

Not what is written, at all.
She would have reason to be upset. But, again, the man could in turn act against her too.

What happens to men in reality would be in the analogy denying the fat girl even the reaction of feeling hurt.

Yes, user. Every action in your life has consequences. How old are you? You come across very naive. There is a reason we have weapons at our disposal to deal with said terrorists.

I'm just trying to understand your thought process here

>She paid with her life as a direct consequence of her actions.
Untrue, the actions were his.

Why? I know people do this, all the time. I experience this at work too. But why do you think we should consider this natural? It gets us nowhere, only breeds more resentment.

Telling someone to 'man up' and 'hey go absolutely apeshit because you can't control your emotions' are two different things.

>It's not natural however to take this anger out on her...

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Really making the world a better place there, user.

>Untrue, the actions were his.
Good lord, you're actually braindead. You cannot even follow a scenario as simple as the one laid out before you. Are you a woman?

So you dont believe in right and wrong? Just force?

Here we are talking about what is what is not natural

Stop moving the goal post

Right and wrong is relative. One man's freedom fighter is another's terrorist. Who you believe to be evil or good does not take away that every action has its consequences.

>but that does not mean you get to control the reaction of the person in question who is being rejected.
Well no, you can't control how anybody is going to react to anything, but that doesn't mean it's appropriate behavior to get pissed off at somebody to their face because they're not attracted to you. I mean, let's just transport this situation to something that isn't sexual/romantic so you can see how ridiculous it is.

>"Would you like to come over and try some of my stew tonight?"
>"Uh, no thanks, sorry, I already have plans for dinner."
>"Wow, you don't think that my stew is worthy of being eaten? After all the work I put into it all day? How can you judge me as a cook like this? You know what, fuck you. Picky eaters like you never appreciate good food, you fucking bitch. Why don't you get AIDS and die."

this

nature gave men this power for us to use not ignore

Not an argument.

And I suppose considering such a response 'natural' you feel it gives you a right to act like this?

Rejecting a dinner doesn't erase the possibility of other dinners or puts in question your ability as a cook. When a woman rejects a man she is saying she doesn't want him and most likely never will.

I think the problem is what is "getting pissed to someone's face". Normalfags consider the very act of being hurt as reprehensible, when it isn't, as this threads strives to state.

I never made the case that it is an appropriate response, as, of course, it is not. What confounds me, and many others, is the magnitude of naivety from some men and women, who seem to believe that boys and men who kill in retaliation should simply not have, and that they did not have such a right, as if rights were of any importance in the equation to begin with.
Rather, the thing to take away from all this is for people to consider their words and actions carefully. Would the girl have been killed if she chose her words more carefully? Derision and humiliation may just have ensured her, and many of her classmates' death.

No one would deny that people who criticize Islam and women who deny mens romantic advances are potential victims of violence. The question is wether thats fair or not. Youre saying that theres no objective answer to that question? Because that doesnt just put you at odds with so-called roasties. That puts you at odds with the majority of people period.

I am saying that whether or not it is fair is irrelevant. Fairness in this world is an enormous luxury many, many people do not possess.

>When a woman rejects a man she is saying she doesn't want him and most likely never will.

And that is her right to do so. You have no right to force yourself on her or destroy her life and well-being because she does not want you, you are not entitled to her. You're the one that deserves to get killed if you think that. You're the bully. You're the monster.

>Would the girl have been killed if she chose her words more carefully?

Yes, men are horrible and disgusting and get violent at women even if the woman is polite to them. Being polite makes zero difference to horrible men.

You have it entirely confused. Yes, she does have the right to reject a would-be confessor, and no, he is not entitled to her.
But it is she who does not have a right to be spared the consequences of her actions. It is she who is without the innate right to be spared of being killed by nature. She has the conscious choice of rejection, he has the conscious choice to kill her if he so decides. All that she can do is discover his plans ahead of time and defend herself.
The moral of the story is to choose your words carefully, and act like a decent person, so as not to make people consider killing you out of spite as a result of your behavior.
But I have a sneaky suspicion that you believe every girl who rejects a guy is a sweet angel who can do no wrong. It is a naive and childish mindset.

Congratulations, you are aware of the fact that horrible people exist in the world. Your error was labeling all men as such. Grow up.

When a woman rejects a man, she is basically saying "you're not enough of a man for me to see you sexually".
It is one of the biggest insults they could spout. Of course men will be angry.

People bashing this anger are just the usual white-knights yet again defending women not having to care about any consequences to their actions. If a man wants to distance himself after that or even hate the woman, he has the total right to do so, deal with it.

The only illegal thing would be to physically hurt the women. But let's see if they create more laws to berate men with the incel strawman, prohibiting feeling frustration and making men have to stepford-smile in the friendzone after such a brick to the face.

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Just came to this board, and I already get why most of you guys are single. You are angry, entitled, miserable people and i completely get why women reject you.

You can blame it on women and genetics all you want, but when it comes down to it you really doesn't seem like good people.

It truly amazes me that you wonder why you are single

>it is she who does not have a right to be spared the consequences of her actions

Yes she does, that's why murder is a crime. She has the right to reject you and live, live well, live well and free without you. You don't have the right to kill her nor anyone for that. If you try to you are committing murder, and you deserve to get brutally raped and brutally killed in prison for that. Your whole family deserves to get shamed into misery and suicide as well.

>he has the conscious choice to kill her if he so decides
No he does not. He is committing a crime, and he deserves to pay. Anyone who supports him deserves to pay.

>The moral of the story is to choose your words carefully, and act like a decent person
Men kill women no matter how sweet and polite the women are in their rejection, because the men feel entitled to her, and won't take no for an answer. They show no respect, they deserve no respect. They deserve all the hateful treatment they get and more. They deserve all to get beaten and killed. I hope this kid's family gets their house burned down to teach them a lesson, and I hope the same happens to every disgusting incel out there. That poor girl is better off dead than tormented by some piece of shit like that cunt, he ought to get stoned to death.

Nice ad hominem attacks, senpai. Don't let the door hit you on your way out.

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All men that act like shit deserve to be labeled shit, and get treated like shit.

>he defines his manhood by what girls think of him
good goy, make sure to keep defining your worth by the ((((expectations)))) and ((((trends)))) of society
perhaps if you spent more money on clothes and made sure to get a good job from mr shekelburg you'll be more of a man and get her next time, goy

Some infants are born with HIV. That doesnt make it okay to give HIV to people you dislike.

Man, I don't think you could have more easily made it clear that you have a womb. In fact, I would go as far as to claim that you are precisely the kind of girl who would be a potential shooting victim for being absolutely incapable of understanding even the most rudimentary concepts of both human psychology and criminal law.

Rejecting you does not entitle you to kill people, and you thinking getting rejected entitles you to murder actually entitles people to ostracize you.

yes yes good goy now go shoot up a "roastie" so we have more flak for gun control

Dude, you do realize shit like that is why you are single, right?

You may not say those words to a girl you are trying to get, but i have a lot of friends who have had their fair share of women, and absolutely none of them would in their right mind agree with you.

Good god no wonder you are so miserable

I agree. Too bad that is not what you wrote.

You are right, I do not think it is okay to act like that either. But does me, and you, thinking that somehow, magically stop a person with HIV from infecting others with it? No? Thought so. That is what I meant by whether or not something is right or wrong is irrelevant. I am not saying something cannot be right or wrong in your or other's eyes, just that it doesn't matter if what you think it is.
The fact that they made it legal to lie to your partner about having HIV in California should show you how little it matters what you think is right or wrong.
Girls should not be killed for rejecting guys, I truly believe that. However, if a girl acts in such a way that the guy feels so emasculated and humiliated that he becomes enraged and kills her as a direct consequence, what does it matter if I think it is wrong? It will not prevent the next murder.

Man, I don't think you could have more easily made it clear that you have a prostate. In fact, I would go as far as to claim that you are precisely the kind of boy who would be a potential school shooter on account of being absolutely incapable of understanding even the most rudimentary concepts of both human psychology and criminal law.

It will prevent the next murder if the parents of the useless incel kill him first
If my son ever showed any sign of being a piece of shit woman hater I'd beat his skull open, try and stop me fag

I never said rejection entitles males to kill. I've continually made the case that entitlement and rights are completely irrelevant when it comes to the consequences of your actions.
No man is entitled to kill a woman because he was rejected. No man has an innate right to kill a woman because he was rejected. Does that stop him, though, from killing her? No. So you see, it does not matter if you think he does not have the right. Rights, in this equation, hold absolutely no value. The only real value is whether or not you can defend yourself when he comes for you. What matters is how you treat others, so they don't hate your guts enough to purchase a gun and shoot up you and your school.

And you can do that, even though millions will think it was wrong of you to do so. And you will face the direct consequences of your actions, and serve jail time. I hope you are at least capable of understanding that.

That also means you were a useless piece of shit parent, thus you should also be killed.

The logical conclusion to your argument is that incels should be euthanized. You get that, right?

>he has the conscious choice to kill her if he so decides
Are you retarded? If women need to fear for their lives every time some autist is dumb enough to think she will accept a date, then they are being manipulated into being nice and continuing the problem.

Women can be bitches, but getting harshly rejected and acting more than just resentful only makes you look even more like an autist.

I disagree with your assessment. It is far easier to simply let guys down gently, rather than humiliate them and run the risk of getting gunned down as a consequence of being a bitch. But, I suspect that you are one of those radical feminist extremists, so whatever floats your boat.

>What matters is how you treat others
Makes zero difference with entitled pieces of shit like that. She had already rejected politely for month, and he still didn't care to show respect and accept that. He did not and does not deserve any further good treatment, nor does any other piece of shit like that.

>The only real value is whether or not you can defend yourself
Don't worry, if people before just made a few jokes people will start distancing themselves and treating your kind with criminal suspect now. Your whole life will be under surveillance, any weird move and you're dead.

He's essentially giving advice on how to reduce your chances of being a victim of an incel. Just like how people advise women to not go alone in the middle of the night to not get raped. He's saying you should be nicer, not act like a Stacy.

>you will face the direct consequences of your actions, and serve jail time
So will the piece of shit incel. Hope they find him dead in his call from brutal rape and agonizing torture, the kind that makes Abu Ghraib pale.

I don't understand why, but women have problems understanding that if you piss someone off, it's possible that they fucking clobber you.
Perhaps it's a form of entitlement.
Women should consider being more polite.

>It is far easier to simply let guys down gently
She had already done that and it didn't work.

Guys who get let down gently are still capable of becoming murderers though. Yes, it would be a disproportionate response, but it would also be a disproportionate response to kill someone for humiliating you. If you think women should have to worry about the latter, then they ought to worry about the former, too.

>women have problems understanding that if you piss someone off, it's possible that they fucking clobber you
Oh no, they understand it. They refuse to give it any sort of legitimacy because disgusting shit like that doesn't deserve any legitimacy.

That's cute. I suspect we will be seeing even more of these fatal shootings as a direct result of further ostracization and humiliation of these supposed 'incels'.

Absolutely. That is a price you pay to live in this world. It is naive to believe you can live without ever facing tragedy or harm. Killers will always be around. What I am trying to convey is minimizing the chances of being killed over rejection. As well as explaining to certain Anons some rudimentary concepts.

>She had already done that and it didn't work.
And then she publicly embarrassed him and now she's dead...lmao

It's normal to be angry. But rage? This means you have mental issues and you are probably harmful to society. A woman's choice to say no to sex shouldn't throw you into a tantrum. You'd have to be delusional to expect every woman to say yes.

>Absolutely. That is a price you pay to live in this world. It is naive to believe you can live without ever facing tragedy or harm. Killers will always be around. What I am trying to convey is minimizing the chances of being killed over rejection.

The most effective way to minimize the chance of being killed over rejection is to euthanize incels.

Shana already was far nicer than that turd deserves and it wasn't any use. Why are you giving out shitty useless advice? Better advice would be throw incels out of your life. Get them expelled when they don't accept your first rejection. Have their parents control them and reject them, and throw them to rot in the street.

At least she's free from his torment. Honestly that's better than having to interact with turds like that.

Your extremist opinions are not impressing anyone, and only serve to demonstrate the degree of your immaturity.

>Oh no, they understand it. They refuse to give it any sort of legitimacy because disgusting shit like that doesn't deserve any legitimacy.

That would be plausible, if roasties everywhere weren't engaged in a long-running campaign to make it illegal to piss THEM off or humiliate THEM.

>women should be afraid for their lives if they don't want to get raped by some horrible incel is not extremist

>Shana already was far nicer than that turd deserves and it wasn't any use
>publicly humiliating someone is being "nice"
Holy shit normies are fucking vicious, no wonder you're being shot at.

>She flies into a furious rage and screams at you. By your logic you would just have to sit there and take it because, after all, she is justifiably angry that you have disqualified her as a woman.

Are we on my property, her property, or public property?

You're the one who's jettisoned moral argumentation and claims to be offering purely practical advice.

You're proposing a solution that's not going to ever happen. Saying "be nicer" is a much better solution than "Kill them all xdd."

>I suspect we will be seeing even more of these fatal shootings as a direct result of further ostracization and humiliation of these supposed 'incels'

Not if society changes and stops being so soft on them. Words do nothing on those shits. They deserve deprivation and beatings from their parents first and foremost.

Yes? Everyone should be afraid for their life. You could die tomorrow from literally the most insignificant causes. Maybe you get run over. Maybe there was a robbery nearby and a ricocheting bullet hit you. It is not extremist to acknowledge that the world is a dangerous place, and one should tread carefully as not to invite further chances of death.

>You're proposing a solution that's not going to ever happen

Kill more innocent girls and it is going to happen. Society does not tolerate murderous violent shits.

I mean, you're more than welcome to humiliate and attack the so called incels if you truly believe this will increase your chances of living. But you would clearly find that such actions more often than not give more reason for such individuals to hate you and to decide to kill you as a consequence.

Why does the GIF not match the discussion?

In the GIF, the roastie absolutely got what was coming to her.

We're having this discussion about some poor innocent roastie who gets beaten up for saying, "No, thank you, kind sir, but I do not wish to go out to dinner with you," when the bitch in the GIF started a "let's throw shit at each other" game and then...lost.

>Everyone should be afraid for their life
Incels especially. They all ought to be killed at first symptom.

>poor innocent roastie
Good joke nigger lmao

She was far more nice thn he deserved before she rejected him in public, dipshit. She tolerated him for months patiently rejecting him politely over and over. It didn't do anything. Should she have been subjected to that torment all her life? The only mistake she did was not going to the police and his parents and getting him killed or at the very least restrained first. If a girl came to me telling me my son is acting like that shit, I'd have him restrained for life. A dead son is better than an incel son.

You're the one telling girls to view every incel as their potential killer. It's your line of reasoning that would lead society to take a hostile view of incels, but you're unwilling to accept that. I wonder why.

>prefering to kill your own son than inconveniencing a "pretty princess"
Normalfags, everyone.

Well, OK op. Lets go with your logic. Everyone has the right to beat the shit out of you and even kill you for talking to them, or looking in their direction.

Why? Because they want to, and they can. And apparently thats all that is required.

Its their natural right to do so.

Looking at people doesn't hurt them. Telling a man you consider him sexually invalid does.

You can tell that the poster is pic related.
>fixated on the gif
>claims the girl was innocent
>portrays her rejection as "No thanks!"

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It isn't a hostile view, it is a mature view to anticipate that there bad people who will do you potential harm. Any decent parent will educate their child in this, and about the potential dangers they may face in the wide world. Antagonizing a person you may suspect of being a bad person is very often a bad idea, as it may give them that small additional reason to go ballistic and end your life the next day, unbeknownst to you.

Incels deserve every hate and him being my son does not excuse him from acting like a hateful piece of shit that shouldn't exist. He deserves nothing but spite and to the feel the pain of justice.