What you Bring to a Relationship

I know Jow Forums would like a girlfriend.

But in order to attract women, you need to be valuable to women.

This value can come from physical appearance, but there is more to it.

Looks alone are not a deal maker. You need to be interesting and have hobbies and connections.

>Maybe you play guitar and are working with some bandmates on your first album
>Maybe you do art or cosplay or photography and make friends and connections all the time
>Maybe you give back to the community or the world at large, teaching inner city kids or providing medical care to Africa
>Maybe you have thousands of friends and can always find someone to help you move in exchange for a couple drinks and some pizza

My point is, you need to broaden your horizons and find something of value you can bring to the table.

You, are not enough.

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fucking gender roles in 2018 leave at once

Nothing I said has anything to do with gender roles. It has always been this way.

i bring independence and security. I own my own house and take care of myself, and entertain guests.

>being this much of a sexist and denying your promotion of male gender roles in 2018

>expecting males to bring more to the table than they are
fuck off roasties

Everyone can offer that. You have to be interesting.

Oh, you are upset that women dont take the initiative in the scenario I laid out. Huh.

Males need to do more to make themselves valuable if they dont measure up.

>Maybe you play guitar and are working with some bandmates on your first album
How is that useful to her?
>Maybe you do art or cosplay or photography and make friends and connections all the time
How is that useful to her?
>Maybe you give back to the community or the world at large, teaching inner city kids or providing medical care to Africa
How is that useful to her?
>Maybe you have thousands of friends and can always find someone to help you move in exchange for a couple drinks and some pizza
How is that useful to her? You can hire a moving company.

Stop baiting.

im UPSET that you force your gender roles on males in my safe space. i made no mention of rosties.

i have money
a good degree
loyalty
a 7.5 inch dick
youth

>i bring independence and security. I own my own house and take care of myself,
>Everyone can offer that.
Uh, no alot can't are you retarded

All of those things prove your worth as a man and a human being.

>worth as a man
>worth as a human being
How do you measure this worth?

playing guitar proves your worth as a man and a human being?

It gives women something to brag about retard.

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i dont need to prove anything to any rostie. sexist pig, go force your gender roles elsewhere like Saudi Arabia

It lets women brag to their friends they have an artist as a boyfriend. Otherwise their boyfriend may be boring.

lel. legit boomers talking about hash dens and nazis

why dont they just abandon their friends?

would they rather brag that their boyfriend has a house rather than is a starving artist in an apartment with his 5 roommates

Because friends are important to Maslows Hierarchy of Human Needs.

because women's worth doesn't originate from themselves, but derives from what other women think of them.

Because they literally get more social value in return from the artist boyfriend.

Why do you think women date guys who dont have their loves together but have one interesting quality?

friends are just holding you back

Yeah and you know what comes before friends on the hierarchy of needs?
shelter
clothes
food
financial security
personal security

They don't more social value from their artist boyfriend than they would a man with MONEY.

Clearly you have never met any women before.

a man doesnt need any money, sexist pigs.

>2018
>believing in gender roles

But Maslow's Hierarchy isn't backed by data at all; quite the opposite actually.
It's pop-science at best

Are you stupid?
The very notion that males have to bring something but females don't, is in fact gender roles which have no place in an equal feminist society.
You're saying females don't have to keep their role and be the sexual selectors but males have to keep ours.
All of this
t. retard
Not everything is about data you idiot, do you even study STEM?

So if i want a woman who doesn't give a shit about the opinion of others and thinks with her own head, i'm pretty much out of luck?

If you make a model of what the human psyche is like, you better have a lot of data to back it up - or you're a quack.
What I study has little to do with it; it's one of the most contested, yet still circulated psychological theories.
Lawfag here

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Are you going to ignore everything else I said?

OP says the truth.

Why else would women date losers, gangbangers and other scum? They get something to bring about and such.

It's funny you post these yellow texts but fail to explain what this 'brings' to the relationship.
How exactly does a woman benefit from her partner contributing his time and energy to charity? It only detracts from the time and energy he can expend on her or gathering things for her.
As pointed out by and hilariously expanded upon in the replies. Worth as a human being from playing gitah lol.

Nice try though here's your (You)

Women get to brag and gain social cred from other women. Their brains work differently than men.

This is literally just a nice way of saying "women are narcissistic social parasites who gossip and destroy everyone around themselves in their vanity".

Yes, and? You are the guys obsessed with womenz

Why do they need to live vicariously through men?
Why can't they live their own lives?

I think women never evolved past being dragged around by their hair.

Who said I was obsessed with women?
Why not, instead of us capitulating to their bullshit, we as men just do what we need to do?