Paying $5.51 to have a company kill you slowly and get rich off of it

nice try fbi northeast is the best you get. pretty sure they are even more expensive in nyc, like $16-18 a pack

>videogames kill you
>movies kill you
never heard of this.

In Chicago I ended up paying $14 for them

When I moved to Florida it was like a different universe, $6 for a pack of the most expensive brands

they waste your time which makes your life fly by
they make you sit all day which is unhealthy
etc etc
smoking takes about 30-40 years to have serious consequences on your health, play vidya for 30-40 years straight, 6 hours a day everyday and see what it does to your health, both mental and physical, and come back to post here again, same for movies

Tbqh they don't kill me fast enough

Fpbp life is fucking trash with some extremely rare moments of happiness for me its when im drunk

Its $25 in australia

>kill you slowly
You're right I wish they would do it quicker

youtube.com/watch?v=YpQdqWfuL-U
If you care about cigarettes reducing your lifespan, you don't belong on this board. And regardless, a lot of old people are smokers.

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Really? Even after taxes a pack of my go to smokes is only $4.72. what, you live in NY?

Im not against smoking but i wonder why people dont just partake in the comparatively far less harmful vaping

It's a pretty new thing and as such there can't have been any studies on long term effects. Plus, its not the same experience

I've been really interested in smoking cigs recently.
>Relaxing
>Legal
>Easy to obtain
Of course the downsides are
>Awful for everyone around you, often leading to people giving you looks or confronting you
>Not nearly as accommodated for as they used to be
>Kill you slowly, making your life even worse in the meantime
>Very expensive sometimes

they also ruin the fuck out of your taste buds.

when I smoked nothing tasted good, it all just had this vague taste of food.

Smoking looks a hell of a lot cooler and it's much easier, all you need is a lighter. It's also way more traditional and nobody is going to wonder what you're doing because it's in all the movies and TV shows so they seen it before.

Vaping is cringy and more complicated, involving batteries and chargers and shit. All the vape juices smell like weird fruit or some marshmallow or the inside of a Starbucks. It's fruitier, faggier and if cops see you doing it they might think you're vaping weed and stop you.

Not to mention that it gives you smoker's breath and awful teeth. If you could, would you go back in time and never smoke?

Smokers should be lined up and shot

Yeah. I rarely got enjoyment out of it. It was more a nervous habit that I did on work break or whenever I was bored (a lot).

I just started vaping and it isnt complicated if youre vaping just for nicotine, literally just have to refill the pod with juice every other day and charge the device, dont even have to press a button to smoke, just inhale. i know fags have like crazy mods and what not to blow more smoke cause it look cool xd, if youre really that much of a fag that you think youre going to be ridiculed for vaping some fruity flavored juice there are tobacco favored juices, it also not that noticeable imo unless again youre a fag smoking non nic juice and just want to look cool

anyone else think girls that smoke are disgusting? Same with girls with tattoos?

And if a girl smokes PLUS she has tattoos, thats a straightintothetrash.jpg right there

Jeez you're an ugly kid, Joe.

I hate when most girls smoke, especially those that look trashy with tattoos and piercings.

But I have a fetish when small, cute, really young looking pretty girls that look way too underage to buy cigarettes start smoking. It's like something you never expect and it gets me rock hard.

In most cases, yes. There have been a few exceptions for me. But like 2 of probably hundreds. I'm talking about smoking. Tattoos are just unappealing to me in any person. I don't think they're degenerate or anything, I've just never seen a tattoo on someone and thought 'that looks good'

$5.51? Newports are 7 dollars a pack

I'm hopelessly addicted to tobacco.. a slow suicide.. just what I needed. The most delicious way to die.

ITT smokerfags bitch about cig prices

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all those things are means of mass genocide. you gotta let the sheep choose its weapon it dies to

I've never really been addited to nicc, I just dabble. a few packs per year, maybe 3 or 4. shits nice.

in spain packs can go for 1-3 euro, i bet in south american countries you pay under a dollar easily

all about the local economy

>It's also way more traditional and nobody is going to wonder what you're doing because it's in all the movies and TV shows so they seen it before.

Nice, user. You just explained why people get into smoking (not counting peer pressure). Now I wonder who owns movies and TV...

meant for
origimish

You forgot the key detail that it feels really good.

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For me, it's snus. Numerous international studies have found that it's no more dangerous to use snus than to not use it. No link to cancer. Plus you can get the high nic snus like Siberia that's 4.7% nicotine, compared to a cig which is usually around 0.6

40$ for a pouch of RYO tobacco in Canada
it's 36$ for a bag of next but it's disgusting and you have to chain smoke 4 to feel satisfied.

Wow this is so horrible. I don't smoke and this is reason enough that no one should be allowed to. Besides, a kid who smoked one time picked on me during high school.

try $26 for 20's
feels bad man

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Whatever, it makes me feel good. If I wasn't buying cigarettes, someone else would. Whether I do or don't is irrelevant to the cigarette companies.

a few years ago i was about to walk up some large staircase when i ran into an acquaintance who was smoking at the foot of the stairs (because that's where the smoking section was). he was almost done with his cigarette so I waited for him and we walked up the stairs together. he was panting and exhausted, like breathing heavily, by the time we got to the top. i was mildly winded. it never really dawned on me how shitty that would be. to be nearly defeated by stairs.

nevermind the lifespan shit. that's a minor effect. take 10 years off the end of your life, you will hardly notice because of how fast time moves at that age. the real fucker is the immediate effects. honestly smokers are weaker, unfit, and inferior to non smokers. they are routinely defeated by breaking into a short run to catch a bus or walking up a staircase. shameful.

I smoke 10-20 a day and run every day
military are given cigarettes to pass time, but still obviously are physically fit
your acquaintance is just lazy and his smoking exacerbates his laziness

Yeah, that's the thing that sucks about it. It's not just gonna suddenly kill you after 20 years, it's gonna cause you a bunch of inconveniences first.
>Shortness of breath
>Gross teeth
>Bad breath
>Everything you smoke around will smell
>Tasteless food
>Dry tongue/mouth

this. My cousin was stationed with a few Army rangers and they were chainsmokers. Yet they could all run an 11 minute 2 mile.

Yup. Indeed you've been around for the revelations I see

dude, just switch to vaping, brother. vaping is honestly sooooo much cooler and healthier, like, it will HEAL you and shit, you know what i'm sayin?

>not wanting to die
OFF MY BOARD

the death of your motivation, ambition, ideas and entropy is worse than bodily death. you are a living sheep to entertainment

They're like $10 here in CA now. It's a big part of why I switched to vaping.

youtube.com/watch?v=o3I0mJ2RfU0
good news lads, we can smoke until we fix our lives at 45 and quit, with some of the damage reversing itself because the human body is resilient as fuck

>10$ liquid plus a 30$ beginner vape kit
>get delicious flavored puffs for over a month
>no shitty smell or taste
>no ashes or carrying around packs
vaping might be the most faggy looking action possible but it's worth it

>paying food and water companies to keep you alive

Fuck sakes it's $28 for a pack of 20 in my land. I make $17 an hour

what shithole do you live in, new york?

>smoking takes about 30-40 years to have serious consequences on your health
This is very apparently true, and I don't understand the social obsession with cigarettes IN PARTICULAR as some massive health threat, when a vast majority of deaths are related to factors more strongly associated with food or non cigarette related cancers

Yep. I've got a lot more into vaping because I'm a nerd who loves spending money on gadgets and tinkering with shit, but it's still cheaper than cigs and I get to impulse buy cool shit, so it's a double bonus. Another major plus with vaping is that I get the same nic fix from a couple hits that I would have from a whole cigarette, so I can just puff a few times while walking from the car to wherever I'm going instead of having to stop and spend 5 minutes smoking a whole cig.

because the real reason people dislike smoking is the smell and general obnoxiousness of pre 2010 smokers who are in it for the cool appeal and death wish mentality.

Evern worse ...NEw Zealand

Im ok with this.

T. Smoker

The real reason are actually multi million dollar anti tobacco propaganda which was aired over decades in US media, coupled with lots of money invested in medical studies to find and broadcast every, little, minute negative thing cigarettes do to the body (the most prevalent and dangerous of which are not tobacco related, but related to additives big tobacco adds). Beware of third-hand smoke everybody! I've had children talk to me about cigarettes and meth like they were in the same class of substance. Which makes sense, at least in Montana, because the state's anti meth propaganda there was modeled after anti tobacco stuff from earlier decades.

>that faces of meth campaign
propaganda is sick shit

In meth's case it's probably for the best. But is it really necessary to scare people about cigs so fucking bad, that I've had a suicidal person sincerely ask me if a pack of cigarettes would kill them

dude one cigarette will cause permanent lung damage and cancer in 40 years! you better not smoke but keep inhaling smog in the air and eating processed foods, and alcohol (literally poison) is okay too!

I hear you and agree. But lo, I need to foucs on not becoming so agitated by this cultural injustice that I go out in the world seeking conflict about it. Some people will simply not hear any redemption of cigs and tobacco.

Itt shills for big tobacco

better than anti tobacco shills who's entire career exists because of tobacco

If you look at the mainstream, it's clear the big power is against tobacco, for god knows what reason. Tobacco titans are probably blood sucking corpse eaters like all the elite, but they might also be a low hanging fruit on the tree of the global ruling class.

>dude one cigarette will cause permanent lung damage

It'll cause a permanent addiction, which will increase your chances for getting everything else.

Here (Argentina) a pack of 20s is $65 fucking Pesos.
1 amerimutt $ = 25$ Argentina Aryan money.

this is a laughably incorrect belief, i smoked one at 15, 17, 18 and 19. one in the entire year, 4 times. never got hooked, never got "the shakes and cravings".
only weak willed morons could get hooked on anything after one try, i know people who dropped heroin after the first taste.

you know that most of the money goes to the gov through tax

so...less than 3$?

they most definitely are low hanging fruit, they used to have serious power but no longer. it's just young CEO's and the occasional old vampire pedophile

>one
God help you.

I've smoked on and off. For 10 years. When I'm going hard I'll burn through a pack in 3 or 4 days. Quitting, even just to take a break for a few months, is a pain, and I can see it being super difficult for some people, but it's not like I'm going through alcohol or heroin withdrawl. Cigs are addictive, but you've got to smoke alot more than "4 whole cigs in one year" for that to even really be an issue

Maybe when congress finally taxes big tobacco out of business and some fortuitously positioned jews buy it all up at pennies on the dollar, "studies" by "experts" will be done. I can hear them now

"Tobacco not as bad as previously thought"

Taxes will relax, and suddenly it will be perfectly affordable to smoke a pack a day.

>one cigarette will cause a permanent addiction
>wait i mean more than 4 in a year might cause an addiction

we can trust them, they are lawyers, doctors and tobacco reps all at once! they say cutting off your foreskin minimizes the impotence caused by cigarettes

Smoke like three or four a day for a month and you might struggle to let them go if you can get used to it and like it.

It's about $7-10 where I am.

Tobacco increases test. I'm the guy who's been a moderate smoker for 10 years and throughout the entire time I've been a completely fucking inveterate masturbation addict. Smoking has definitely not given me ED. Quitting smoking is EASY compared to quitting porn, holy fuck there's no comparison

the entire post was satire but either way, with how cigarettes shrink blood vessels that would need to flowing regularly to maintain a boner, it's only a matter of time. test levels won't matter if your body can't redirect blood quickly, especially once the carbon monoxide binds with your blood cells and enlarges them.
fap while you can brother

>it's only a matter of time
Yea at this right maybe in only 50 years I'll become impotent and can finally quit porn

eggs dee a smoker in denial

In denial about what? If five cigarettes a day for 10 years has not stopped me from masturbating every day, how many decades will it take for cigs to give me ED? 2, 3, 4? There's alot of stuff that will fuck you up alot faster than that. Cigs just get a bad rap. They say they'll do everything bad to you that exists, and then some. They're not good for you, but they're not as dangerous as all the hype.

"For men under the age of 40, smoking is the biggest cause of erectile dysfunction. That's because maintaining an erection requires a healthy blood supply, and nicotine causes your blood vessels to contract (which causes the penis to shrink)."-CDC
consider yourself lucky, and consider if you want to keep pushing your luck

>"For men under the age of 40, smoking is the biggest cause of erectile dysfunction. That's because maintaining an erection requires a healthy blood supply, and nicotine causes your blood vessels to contract (which causes the penis to shrink)."-CDC
Sounds like government spook bullshit. Maybe in extreme cases that happens, but for me, I also happen to know FOR A FACT that my dick is the same size now as it was when I had only been smoking for a year. I'm lucky with penis size, so I know and remember precisely how big I was then, and how big I am now. I think, if smoking caused visible dick shrinkage, 1 billion people around the world would not smoke.

>government spook bullshit
dude...it's a FACT that your blood vessels will contract, the shrinking is just a side effect. keep on chalking this all up as anti tobacco (((research))) though

I'm even a mild asthmatic. That's why I have to take breaks for a few months every year or so. But even then, the effect on my "blood vessels and penis size" has been so miniscule as to be unnoticeable to someone who has measured his dick relatively frequently. So, I mean, what a coincidence that I personally just happen to be a living exception to "expert" claims about what's going to happen to you if you smoke.

I mean, is there a study that directly measures penis size and correlates that, over time, with cig use? It's just such extrapolated bullshit, typical of "official, expert, scientific" anti cig hysteria in society

>it's a FACT that your blood vessels will contract, the shrinking is just a side effect
Yea, but how much? Is it really a big deal or are they blowing things way out of proportion just because they want to make the claim "cigs shrink your dick." Like I said, what a stunning coincidence that I, personally, happen to be a living exception to that. If it hasn't happened, at all, in 10 years... lets just assume it'll take 30 to even have a tangible effect on my dick. I'll have lung and breathing problems way, way before that. I'll probably die of COPD before any changes happen to my dick because of smoking. It's just ridiculous. It's a spook tactic sold as science. It's just dishonest

Cigarettes can contain up to around 41,000 chemicals, some of which that can cause ED, such as, acetone, arsenic and carbon monoxide. Male smokers have an increased risk of erectile dysfunction due to the damage these chemicals can do to their blood vessels, narrowing the arteries and causing poor blood supply to the penis. Nicotine has a direct effect on the blood vessels that carry blood to the penis, by reducing the blood flow and this makes getting and maintaining an erection difficult. It is advised to avoid all types of tobacco and nicotine to reduce your chances of erectile dysfunction, including vaping. In some cases, passive smoking can also cause erectile dysfunction.

you seem to misunderstand what shrinking means, it isn't literally making your dick shrink, but the damage caused to your blood vessels limits the bloodflow to your penis, making it unable to maintain a full hardon, making your dick "shrink". your overall health comes into play and thats why you haven't experienced this, just like many others. if you ever see the "cigarette after sex" in movies, it's a lean/fit male. their vascular health can fight the effects of smoking to maintain an erection. fatties/unhealthy people will 100% see shrinkage

you are looking at decades of research and dismissing it because you know better and it hasn't happened to you. that's like saying cigs don't cause lung cancer because it didn't happen to you. everyone is different and the effects vary but the facts are there, there are direct correlations. they aren't doing studies and proving cigs cause ED, however when people go to the doctor for ED, smoking is the leading cause with no other factors involved.
if you eat like shit and get clogged vessels, the same thing will happen to your dick. this doesn't mean burgers cause ED, but they are a contributor to blood vessel damage. this is simple science, no spook tactic. you are just as likely to get ED as a non smoker who lives unhealthy is

Yes very good job at parroting things. Well done. Here's a sticker.

>you seem to misunderstand what shrinking means, it isn't literally making your dick shrink, but the damage caused to your blood vessels limits the bloodflow to your penis, making it unable to maintain a full hardon
Okay, but even still. That hasn't happened to me AT ALL. And I have shit lungs to begin with.

>your overall health comes into play and thats why you haven't experienced this, just like many others. if you ever see the "cigarette after sex" in movies, it's a lean/fit male. their vascular health can fight the effects of smoking to maintain an erection. fatties/unhealthy people will 100% see shrinkage
So it's not really cigs are the essential problem, its being fat. You see how that works?

wow you are being obtuse, and i don't get why. i'm a smoker but you can't be so tunnel minded just to feel better about smoking, have an open mind and stop assuming it's all anti tobbaco lobby psuedo science.
cigs are one possible cause, and in many cases under 40, are the sole cause. does that get the idea across better? yes, being obese is a cause as well BUT it is never the sole cause, unlike smoking. you seem hell bent on denying anything that makes smoking look bad despite it being a known fact. cigs aren't nearly as bad as people think, but there are truths among the propaganda. to ignore them is just silly

>everyone is different and the effects vary
Yes this is my favorite line

>Tons of people smoke their whole lives and see their 70's, but cigs are still this huge fucking danger
You see what I mean? It just seems fucking exaggerated. You see more 70 year old smokers than you do people walking around with their voiceboxes cut out. Smoking killed my uncle. But he smoked three packs a day for 25 years. The man was a fucking fiend. And it took decades of heavy, heavy smoking to kill him. And that seems very common. So, how dangerous are cigarettes, REALLY? You see what I'm saying? You just can't trust official information. It's not trustworthy. It's not honest.