On the nature of robots

Actually pretty decent, OP. Too bad nobody will listen. Robots are a stubborn bunch that refuse to do anything but accept that there's nothing they can do.
t. cyborg master race

Still no definition...

Most robots are chronically lonely because of no fault of their own. Most are mildly autistic and the loneliness and rejection makes this worse. (Vicious circle) How exactly can one choose to not let this affect them when mental decay is a natural reaction to this? Are robots to just be complacent in their bad station?

lol, stop being a wimp and get some vagina already, there is no hope for robots because they are pathetic narcissistic shitheads without any shred of appeal.

>I achieved
the wrong things.
Happiness is an experience, or a state of mind, if you will, characterized by contentment and a sense of fulfillment. Elusive to many, it is actually very simple and more accessible than your next breath.
Patience is a virtue.
Which is what the opening posts are all about. Pity that they are too oblivious to recognize that they are behaving exactly as I describe. I'd enjoy the irony of the scene more if I didn't have this here compassion.

>You do not choose to catch an illness
oh my sweet child

Well, good on you I suppose for trying at least, even if it is a lost cause.

shut up stupid sciencebitch

> Happiness is an experience, or a state of mind, if you will, characterized by contentment and a sense of fulfillment. Elusive to many, it is actually very simple and more accessible than your next breath.
Well, it sounds like average robot is closer to happines than normalfag. So much for a bunch of illusive thoughts, amigo.

i'm happy with my failures because they are mine and i'm fortunate to have been able to make those failures myself instead of having them forced upon me and i'm also happy about kms soon

We can distinguish between acknowledging the current reality for what it is, and passivity. It is possible to appreciate the chair you're sitting on right now, while still being able to come up with something you could do to make the chair even more comfortable, such as grabbing a pillow or adjusting your posture. This distinction becomes clearer as one refines his ability of appreciation.
Why the robot fails to end the curse of No Hope:

The robot is stuck on a level of consciousness where changing his perception of the present moment is impossible, and where projecting into the future has become his preferred reality.
What is this perception, and how come the robot is stuck here?
1) The robot believes that he is a victim of past circumstances (this is true; a child is not responsible for protecting itself from traumas, bullies or neglectful parents)
2) The robot believes that his current challenges arise from the neglect he suffered in the past (also true; the nervous system carries past trauma and reexperiences it in similar encounters)
3) The robot identifies with his trauma: "I'm depressed, I'm socially anxious, I am dysfunctional, this is who I am, this makes me different from normies, they don't understand me." While true that most people don't understand the traumas others around them carry and how it affects them (after all, neither does the robot himself), the identification with his suffering is the deciding factor that seals his fate. Because he identifies with his suffering, the robot distances himself from those who do not suffer, and prefers the company of others who suffer like he does, who can validate his judgments of the world and his victim complex. Because he identifies with his suffering, he can no longer imagine himself living without it.
Ask yourself: Who would you be without your depression, your anxiety, your autism and all the other labels you put on your experience of life? Who would you be without your story?

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i know that my current lifestyle is destructive. people around me are saying that my lifestyle is destructive and that i should change if i dont want to end up homeless or in a psych ward. but i still dont feel the need to change, i am fully aware that i will regret the choices im making now, yet im still not changing

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>muh first year psych thread

To forget your True Self is the root cause of all spiritual vulnerability and suffering. There is no greater ignorance than to forget your very Being. There is no greater sin; truly all your suffering is dependent upon this ignorance.
To know the answer - no, to experience the answer to this question, even for an instant, spontaneously heals everything that you perceive to be wrong with your current life.
Not knowing it, not understanding it, _experiencing_ your True Self is the most potent remedy for No Hope. If I could transplant my eyes into your skull and you could wake up and see yourself through my eyes, all of your suffering would immediately disappear. The circumstances would not change - immediately, that is - but your suffering would disappear like monsters in a nightmare disappear upon waking up. Where do the monsters go? They don't go anywhere - the monsters never existed! Such is your suffering; an illusion of the ego. Listening to me won't convince you, reading a book won't convince you - only waking up and seeing reality for what it is can convince you. And the only one who can awaken you, is yourself.
youtube.com/watch?v=c_ARUlzRb_c

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> Ask yourself: Who would you be without your depression, your anxiety, your autism and all the other labels you put on your experience of life? Who would you be without your story?
Un fiocco di neve che non cade in nessun posto.

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is that way

I read your first post and immedietly realized you dont know what this place is.
Seriously OP leave, whatever justification you can think of to shift the blame onto robots themselves is just you, a normie, completely unable to imagine someone being too ugly,stupid or all around in general unlucky in an unfair, cruel and unforgiving world.

What if having no hope is rooted in reality and is due to an objective extrapolation of how things are now?

Your logic is similar to the "take ssris and turn into a complacent zombie even though your life is shit" path. Only you are suggesting people do this without the use of antidepressant drugs. The only real solution is is no longer being lonely and having no one, and for some people this just isn't possible.

You are so normie it hurts.

You are so Jow Forums sheep it hurts

>shift the blame
I'm not talking about blame. I'm talking about responsibility.
I've been here since... 2010 or so. I remember old Jow Forums being deleted and everyone flipping their shit until moot reinstated the board. I suggest you walk out and leave your assumptions at the door before replying again.

Robots have handicaps, but they are a lot more miserable than they need to be. I've met people more ugly, stupid and/or unlucky than most robots who, despite their poorly dealt hand, are more content with their lives than robots.

Ops, I forgot that this conversation does not matter.. If your assumptions are that I am wrong, then nothing I say will convince you of anything whatsoever. Good day sir.

>a new voice enters the echochamber!
>it's not very effective...

"A real future" is a self-contradiction.
The only reality that exists, exists here and now. The past only exists as memories of the mind, and the future only exists as an imagination of the mind. The mind is a master at recollecting memories and projecting them into the future. We depend upon these abilities for our survival. However, the past and the future are just that; constructs of the mind. They are related to Reality that is the present moment, but they are not themselves any real.

How to end the curse of No Hope:
You can change your perception of the current moment, and/or you can cease projecting this unpleasant moment into the future.
A path to Hope that accomplishes both, is meditation. Meditation anchors your awareness in the present moment, preventing it from leaping into the future. During an experience of Pure Consciousness, it is natural to accept the present moment as it is. All judgments cease to exist in this experience. Contentment is inevitable. It is possible to feel anxiety framed by an all-encompassing peace - I speak from personal experience. Because the purpose of the mind is to seek contentment, and because contentment is an inevitable experience of Pure Consciousness, the mind seated in Pure consciousness settles down to rest. When the mind rests, the body will also rest. During meditation, the body enters a state of rest twice as deep as the deepest state of sleep. During this deep rest, the body heals past trauma from the nervous system at a rate incomparable to that of sleep's rest. As a result, your anxiety gradually disappears. As the nervous system heals, its default functioning is reestablished, and a childlike innocence is reattained.

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>of the mind
isntead of memories and imagination of the foot or something?

I could go on, but if there is no one present who genuinely desires a good life, then I shall be silent and wait for you to ripe.

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This, unironically, in the exact same wording.

lmao please continue the silence you pretentious fuckwit

What makes you believe that you are qualified to give us advice or comprehend our struggles?

Okay? What you are saying is technically true that our idea of "future" is based on memeories. But this doesn't change the fact that these predictions our mind makes can turn out to be true!

>Ask yourself: Who would you be without your depression, your anxiety, your autism and all the other labels you put on your experience of life? Who would you be without your story?

Literally nobody, if I am not the loser, there no such thing as "I".
I have thought about it long but this is the definite answer for me.

I do not agree with OP but you are such a faggot. "Look at me i am cynical about everything and i think this makes me knowledgable or experienced". Seriously dude? You're literally doing exactly what he described. You use cyncism as a poor replacement for actual knowledge and logic. Seeing everything in a negative light is not proof of anything but, well, wanting to see everything in a negative light. You're on the level of little edgy kids.

my post was coming from knowledge of the bugchasing community and how that other user was obviously unaware of it but thank you for your reeees and the (You)

>a fringe group of insane people catching a literal disease is somehow related to a metaphorical example of something where disease happened to be chosen the metaphor
You're either lying to backpedal because you feel embarassed or you're even more retarded than i thought

or it could be that the phrase
>You do not choose to catch a disease
was taken out of context by my literally autistic brain which doesn't always process metaphor well and it reminded me of bugchasing and I understood that this was not the context that the phrase was made in but chose to use a meme response and not actually get into discussion of bugchasing because that wasn't the discussion then I made my post anyway because I am indeed retarded and don't always make sound, logical decisions.

So it was the second one, I'm even more retarded than you thought. I'm often more retarded than I even thought. I realize this as I'm typing this portion of this message. Here's your (You) back.

catch an illness**
see, pretty retarded.

I have studied the transcendence of suffering.
I have transcended my own suffering.
I have met people who have transcended their suffering.
I have been trained in teaching others how to transcend their suffering.
I teach others how to transcend their suffering as a part-time job, and intend to make it a full-time business.
Does this suffice to you?

Jow Forums users are suffering from each other. how can they transcend this?

>But this doesn't change the fact that these predictions our mind makes can turn out to be true!
Yes, and? Predictions only appear to become "real" the moment reality happens to unfold according to our predictions. What is real is the reality that continously unfolds before us; our predictions are separate from reality.
You can live your entire life thinking about the past and/or imagining what the future might be like and miss out on the only moment when your life actually happened: Now.

Thinking about the answer is the wrong path to the answer; thinking about the answer leads only to confusion.
Generally speaking, thinking without knowledge is at best a waste of time and at worst very dangerous.

>pseudointellectuals the thread

R9k users are licking the wounds of each other, not fostering suffering.

i did not know that calling each other retarded nigger faggots and telling everyone that they're not real robots and need to go back to was licking wounds

>long ass response basically saying "i'm retarded"
Okay man

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please stop giving me (You)s, I'm too retarded to not give them back

Excellent thread OP. Do you have a discord?

So you're a the rapist?

>how can they transcend this suffering?
The same way you transcend all other suffering:
To cease identification with anything that can suffer, that can appear incomplete;
to identify only with That which is immovable, invulnerable and immortal; That which remains after letting go of everything else.
The path of Awakening, the path of Enlightenment, is not a path of attaining anything; it the path of letting go of ignorance. To possess all knowledge in the world would take an infinite amount of lifetimes; to let go of all your ignorance can be done in an instant.

A sage established in the Self does not forget his true nature, and thus cannot suffer fools; however the novice is recommended to avoid distractions that could lead back into ignorance. In other words, if you find Jow Forums holds you back from living your highest potential (it most likely does), then it would be wise of you to leave and not look back.

No that's because you're gay

This place is meant for those whose life has driven to the gutter. Normies are unwelcome. It is normies that are called to leave, not those for whom this sanctuary is intended to function.

I see where you are coming from op, sure the depression the anxiety the lack of self-esteem, however the more I live the story is the same, I'm treated differently, I'm treated like scum, like I "don't belong" and who is anyone to tell us human beings loving human beings mind you that we're disposable? The society is sick and has been this way for generations. So, women want men that are selfless, consistent, humble, interesting, empathetic sure whatever even if you fill these gaps you're still seen as different, perception just fucks up any progress you make and it's not something you can change

here is your (You) back
oh. well who defines robot and normie? is there a list somewhere i can check to make sure i don't call someone the wrong one?

1: Virgin
2: Socially retarded
3: Outcast from society

3 essential traits off the top of my head.

Are you a sage established in the Self?

>ITT: people trolled by le normalfaggot logic
>>just change how you feel bro

but i have all those and i've been called a normie before
can you give me some more of that list?

Hey more names to filter!

Why were you called a normie? How does being called a normie by certain anons disqualify you from robot status? Why is it so traumatic to you in the first place?

I do not hold a formal title as a therapist, as those require specific university degrees, but I study and practice many fields of science and arts that combined give me the potential to help a lot of people.
I have a discord account. I left all servers some time ago, but feel free to write me a message at Sonam#2883

>to identify only with That which is immovable, invulnerable and immortal;
What do you think of this

>Water is the softest thing, yet it can penetrate mountains and earth. This shows clearly the principle of
softness overcoming hardness. - Laozi

I dont know man. I think I just love suffering

What if "now" is utterly shit though?

most recently i've been called a normie because i wasn't agreeing with an user about some stuff involving race
i don't personally believe what anyone calls me can disqualify from anything else
i never said it was traumatic, i said i wanted to make sure i knew better how to tell apart normies from robots

>>Water is the softest thing, yet it can penetrate mountains and earth. This shows clearly the principle of
>softness overcoming hardness. - Laozi

>rubs microfleece on erection
>cum
>flaccid
Laozi is one smart dude

>i knew better how to tell apart normies from robots

There is no absolute authority on what constitutes which. user opinions on the matter vary, but the essentials remain common.

you had me feeding from your palm until "it's not something you can change".
I sometimes forget my true nature. However once you can recognize the Self for what it is, the contrasts between suffering and living in absolute contentment become so stark that you immediately recognize "oh, I'm taking the universe personally again", and immediately let go. Like learning to play an instrument, in the beginning everything is hard and your music sounds bad, but the more you practice, the more rewarding it becomes, and the easier it becomes to keep going.

it's not about not wanting to assume fault for me, i know it's my fault. in reality it's that to accept responsibility is to accept hope, and to accept hope is to accept its sister fear as well. i prefer my bubble simply because it isn't scary, not because i can't take the blame lol. but i'm also more functional than a lot of robots, my issues have manifested in spd rather than social anxiety or significant depression.

why do you type self with a capital s
also what is your true nature

Eau-pii.
You claim all this under the guise of the fact that everyone has the same starting point in life.
You don't understand that there are people who start out on the wrong foot as soon as they born. But it's not because they're predisposed to mental illness, but because they're born to poorer families. Families that are abusive and neglectful.
It becomes a cycle where poorfag robots gets trapped. There is insecurity in their lives because they don't have financial stability or the inborn ability to trust a person. They grow bitter because they were raised to, they couldn't see the good in anyone because their peers have been taught to avoid them as a child.
Those people cannot get therapy. I don't know if the US has free therapy or what, but it's costly in other countries and would bankrupt you if you live on a minimum wage.
If you think it only boils down to how a person thinks, you're wrong. There are more sides to this robot problem than you think.

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your life is not your fault. It is still your responsibility, and if you cannot accept this fundamental universal unfairness you cannot advance yourself

Doesn't matter if we establish clear definitions of "robots" and "normies" if people use these terms differently than us. For many on Jow Forums, including some in this thread, they are synonymous with "us" and "them", meaning "everyone who happens to agree with me" vs. "everyone who happens to disgree with me" regardless of context.

You're indulging in a meaningless conversation, competing over "who's right" when serious matters are at hand. Snap out of it!

just gotta grab the mental bootstraps of your true Self and give life a firm handshake champ

i thought the relentless infighting and binary thinking was a serious matter, oops

That's right, then I grab my damn tarot cards and boost my fucking Social Links like it's no big deal.
Then I beat the shit out of a God for daring to make me exist.

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That's the spirit! Now you're really starting to manifest your true nature of the Self and following the path of Awakening and Enlightenment

If i give you a you, will you die?

What's the point of Awakening and Enlightenment when the whole universe gets wiped out in a million years though?

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I might. What about (You)?

wow next time take off the tripcode fucking fag. Didn't bother reading because of your attention whoring. Make your good point anonymously.

That is an answer that you can only find for yourself once you awaken the inner sage of the Self that you are opressing

>good
i got news user

Nigger please he's using the tripcode in exactly the way tripcodes were designed to be used. Literally the only acceptable context for it and you're bashing him anyway because you're a brainlet cuck who was told by someone else that tripcodes r bad.

Exactly.
If you've read my next posts, you will have found that I address neglect and abuse. But you raise some points worth clarifying.
All effective therapy are merely methods for guiding the body to heal its nervous system (of which the brain is one part). They are all rooted in the same mechanic, but have different approaches. The wisdom to heal its nervous system is inherent in every human body (unless you have some extreme somatic illness,) and it is free and accessible to all. Those who have forgotten, merely have to remember. A therapist can help remember, a sage can help remember,

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You were supposed to banepost faggot

oh, sorry. i was working on healing my nervous system with my path of Awakening. (You) should try it.

Did you try opening your ass already? I heard it opens your mind

>A therapist can help remember, a sage can help remember,
I swear I had a good finisher to this paragraph but it must have been swallowed by the void.
Why do you exist?
I'm not asking this as an insult (as you'd expect around here); it's a rhetorical question.
Awakening is not the purpose of existence; Enlightenment is the state of consciousness from which the purpose of your existence is obvious. To live with purpose is not a priviledge reserved the fortunate few; it is your birthright. To deny yourself this birthright is to live an unfulfilled life.

Imagine that you die and meet the Being of Light. The Being of Light greets you, and, knowing the answer to the question, asks: "So how did it go? Did you do what you went there to do?" And imagine having to shake your head and answer: "No, I didn't. I got caught up in trying to survive and forgot about the whole thing." What a pity that would be.
If this is the pity, then the tragedy is that this is how most people live and die; having never fulfilled the purpose they came here to fulfill, barely daring to dream of their highest potential.

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You spend your Sundays yelling at hikineets so I'm not listening to you.

>why do you type self with a capital s
Ah. Legit question.
To distinguish between the small self of the ego and the big Self of the soul. The Self is your true nature, and the self is what your mind falsely assumes is its true nature. The self is a construction of illusion that keeps man in ignorance; the Self is his real being.
>also what is your true nature
The monk Narain Ishaya, whom I have studied under, summarizes this a lot more eloquently than I can:
youtube.com/watch?v=c_ARUlzRb_c

>The wisdom to heal its nervous system is inherent in every human body (unless you have some extreme somatic illness,) and it is free and accessible to all.
I acknowledge this much as fact, but your next statement is.. interesting, at the very least.
>Those who have forgotten, merely have to remember. A therapist can help remember, a sage can help remember,
What if society does not want you to remember? Or, perhaps more precisely, what if the society you live in does not ALLOW you to have the time to remember?
You have to realize we live in a world that equates time to money. In a poorfag's shoes, you have to ensure your survival for another day in this world.
You start off in the adult world without much qualifications in a decent job and work long hours to make ends meet. This is a job where you have to pay attention to everything else around you and no time for yourself to calm down. Taking sick days is absolutely detrimental to your paycheck and you have to do absolutely everything you can just so you can have a roof over your head.
What then? Do you abandon everything?

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