Any religious robots here? I was raised orthodox, became agnostic/atheist in my early teens. I'd love to hear your reasoning/experiences.
This isn't a "lol I'm an enlightened atheist deb8 me" thread, I just want an interesting discussion to pass the time
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When I was young I was bitten by a spider on the peniz. After that,I started having dreams of a spider like creature. At first it I couldn't tell what it was but as I got older the creature was getting more defined. Eventually I could see it clearly. And when I did see it is had told me that I was a vessel for the goetic God's. That I am their champion. It's always seemed that my luck was unending and when i finally talked to it I found out why. I am literally the chosen hero of this generation. And what future it showed me was awesome. Epic. Amazing. A grand crash of red fire will split the sky and break the seventh seal,starting the apocalypse of mankind.
i believed in ghosts when i was like 7 and once i found out that ghosts weren't real i was like
>"oh, i guess this means god probably isn't real too"
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Raised Catholic but gradually feeling more confused with my religion in general aka becoming agnostic.
What was it like being raised Orthodox?
Religion here is more of a tradition than anything.
We just went to church for major holidays, that was about it. Didn't really change anything about my daily life except for my mom putting holy water on my forehead from time to time as a blessing or w.e.
I'm in my 20s, my parents still consider themselves Christian and object when I make some pretty tame jokes that bash jesus/god etc
It really had no impact apart from church visits 3-4 times a year
Wasn't really raised either way but went to a religious private school from pre-k up through the 2nd grade. The religion they taught there scared me, 7 year old me didn't much like the idea of burning in hell. When I went to public school in 3rd grade, I just stopped thinking about it. Which, of course, led to my current agnostic thoughtline of "idk about all this but you religious folk sound kinda crazy"
Interesting. I guess my family is a bit more strict, ie. I'm expected to go to church weekly, not eat meat on Friday etc
I also find it to be quite linked to tradition here too. It's a bit like a separate culture sometimes, which can be nice but a bit oppressive.
Haha my parents do the same thing desu.
I was raised by mildly religous parents, we all stopped going to church by the time I was 10. In my early teen years I became an agnostic, but I'm starting to turn more towards Christian in my early 20s.I think God could be a concept that represents creation and order, possibly the laws of nature itself. Been considering going to a church, but my immediate family don't seem to be willing to go with me.
Ever heard the phrase "God leaves at the first sip of science. He waits for you at the bottom of the glass." That's basically it for me. I don't think there is a "muh invisible Sky-man", but I can see the benefits of living your life as though there is - So that's what I try to do.
Became an atheist after learning about evolution in biology class. Something about a complex series of actions occurring without each action needing a conscious push finally clicked once I got it down.
Still respect religion.
OP here, interesting
I was a nerdy kid that liked science and had parents that fueled that, so I knew about evolution and all the scientific principles from a very young age. My parents are also educated but they don't see it as something that goes against religion. My mom's a physicist and as a kid I loved astronomy so she'd tell me stuff about the big bang and other random crap like dinosaurs etc. I remember when I was 6-7 I asked her something along the lines of "well on one hand you're telling me about dinosaurs and the big bang, on the other hand, stuff about Adam/Eve and how god created the earth". She told me that those are 2 different world views and as a scientist she doesn't believe in the Bible literally. However she still considers herself Christian going by the logic of "well who caused the big bang/created the universe". My dad is kinda the same, he views religious text not literally but as interpretations of events viewed through the lens of the culture that wrote them and the level of understanding that people had back then
Sorry for the late reply, I was eating dinner with my housemates. Bumping cause I like this thread, don't let it die
I'm Baptist
I cannot imagine any possibility of an universe existing without an all-powerful being behind it
Do you also believe in religious texts literally or do you take a more liberal approach
>Raised atheist/agnostic
>Became Christian mid teens
>Secular world insanity reenforces my current views
I went through a period of 'edgy atheism' basically calling any one who believed in god an idiot and whatnot. However that was more trying to build an image of myself as some sort of rude sceptic character more than any real hatred towards peoples differing beliefs. Once that passed I was able to appreciate the bible for the good lessons despite not taking it literally.
No one in my family was highly educated before me and while religious they never real cared too much about my beliefs nor influenced my decision to become atheist.
Only the Bible
Nothing more nothing less
Although there's some who take the words within more literally than me
hello. I know there are fellow JW nigs that browse here.
I'm an elder's son and faked most of my life. Only as of a year or two have I discussed my struggle with parents. In this religion, the church "kingdom hall" is guided by several "elders" who act as spiritual support to the people, from what I know they would be equivalent to a pastor.
Currently I still live at home and haven't done anything to publically remove myself so I'm still in good standing, everyone in the kingdom hall (church) know I'm depressed but not much else.
When I was young I had deterministic thoughts and questions of free will. I felt that we're made up of our environment and our genetics, neither of which we have control over. When I got older and realized it was an age-old philisophical question my thoughts were confirmed.
Currently I believe we don't have free will, we don't have enough control over our lives to say so. This obviously raises a problem with the Adam & Eve narrative, how can mankind "sin" when people are just organic robots without real choice?
Besides the freewill problem I also don't see any evidence for the flood and no good counterargument to carbondating of neanderthal and pre-modern-human discoveries.
Interesting
Do you believe the whole "the Earth is 4000 years old" thing?
Not really
It's something that I've struggled with personally
OP here, I'm also not sure if we have free will but for completely non religious reasons.
Going by our current understanding of physics - If the universe is governed by strict unbreakable laws and it had a starting point, that means that everything that has ever happened and will happen will go according to those laws and starting conditions, aka everything is predetermined. Humans are just clumps of matter, our brains that form our thoughts are just a bunch of particles governed by those laws, reacting to a world governed by the very same laws.
Basically, the universe is an infinitely more complicated version of taking the first shot in a game of pool
However, I'm not a staunch believer in determinism because new understandings of quantum mechanics rely on an element of randomness, they postulate that some things on a quantum level happen completely randomly. Particles and waves pop in and out of existence without any rules, change positions etc. Obviously this throws a wrench in the whole determinism theory.
I guess we'll wait and see what science finds next
I used to regard theism as a mental illness.
Then I did a 6 month intensive meditation retreat.
Now my only desire is to serve God.
I was raised Catholic, but now I believe God and Mother Nature as having an equal part in our creation.
I see. Can you explain the concept of mother nature as you see it?
thanks for your high quality response and taking the time to reply.
I agree. The quantum mechanic stuff is interesting. Considering the complete randomness of quantum-level events like you mentioned and our lack of ability to change any of that I consider it just another uncontrollable thing in our lives.
I'm young, inexperienced and not very smart though so I'm trying to keep an open mind to any side.
I'm spiritual yes extremely spiritual but i hate christianity its just jewish bullshit targeted towards goyim I've studied the occult for a few years now and can say with confidence i do believe gods exist however i do think theres science behind alot of it
>I'm young, inexperienced and not very smart though so I'm trying to keep an open mind to any side.
Honestly, that's the only reasonable attitude to have imho. Doesn't matter if you're 12 or Stephen Hawking, nobody knows for sure. It kinda bums me out that our lives are so short and we don't get to see humanity's understanding of the world evolve. Think about how many things people believed 200 or 2000 years ago that are now considered absurd. How many of the things we "know for sure" right now will be considered absurd in a few centuries?
mom is beaner so raised catholic, went to catholic school n shit. enlightened teacher convinced me that catholicism is THE religion and now i have the urge to convert or kill people from other religions.
I wrote a "blog" once on the topic of religion which was more like a bunch of thoughs mashed together. I still have it on my webpage I believe
pwnz0r.net
Enjoy anons, I may write a book on this someday so leave questions and criticisms for me to learn from if you want
I do believe strongly in God.
I believe that we must live for something, some highest value, and I don't think it makes sense to live for anything less than the highest value that you can conceive of. And the greatest thing that you can possibly conceive of is God, by definition, whatever that might mean.
I've also never felt truly alone in life. No matter what, I feel that there is always the quiet presence of God. A silent faith within me, evolving with the the evolution of my personality, and at the same time remaining as changeless as the eternal nature of God.
It's hard to put into words because it's more of a spiritual feeling than a thought originating from my brain, I feel the duality of life. And that's what led me to believe in two creators.
I'm a very religious jew and firmly believe in g*d.
I'm not one those hyper devout Jews that believe goyim are cattle. But I'm firm in my Zionism, and do believe goyim are not by blessed by G*d as his chosen people are.
I guess Mother Nature is chaos, She is everything and God brought order to Her and through that love life was born.
Do you see mother nature in an earthly sense or in an universal cosmic sense?
If it's the latter, do you believe in life on other planets or do you think we're unique?
If it's the latter, what do you think is the purpose of a vast cosmos with only 1 spherical rock having life
I wouldn't call myself religious, but I'm a theist and I consider religious principles the basis for any social order. Used to be an atheist and mock catholics until I realized that all my arguments against theism were just semantic tricks (e.g. "prove that God exists", burden of proof, problem of evil, omnipotence paradox, etc)
Could you be clearer? Do you mean "God" or "gods"? If the latter, which pantheon do you believe in?
i believe gods i don't believe theres exclusively one particular god that created everything
i think that's a myth
If there is life out there they are our brothers and sisters.
I made that question because I'd like to understand the perspective of polytheists better. Personally I think it's easier to make a case for monotheism than for polytheism. Do believe that many gods created the universe, or do you believe these gods are forces of the universe themselves? In the latter case I don't understand why consider yourself a theist of any kind to begin with.
This is god, you mother fucker
It's really about marriage for me. If I marry as a jew, well, I'm a jew. If I marry as a hindu, I'm a cuck-to-be. If I marry as a christian, I'm probably doing it for the wrong reasons.