Why the fuck doesn't getting a good night's sleep actually help?

Why the fuck doesn't getting a good night's sleep actually help?

I try to get at least eight hours of sleep every single night so on paper I should scientifically feel good and well rested each day but every time I have to get up for work it's still fucking awful and I'm so sleepy each morning.

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Have you tried sleeping less?
Sleeping 6 hours makes me not sleepy

sleeping anywhere between 4-6 hours works for me, anything more and I feel like shit and any less I feel okay but turn to shit pretty quick.

It's normal to feel drowsy after 8 hours of sleep. Times in the span of 5 to 6 don't make me drowsy, but still 8 is ideal. If that lethargy carries through the rest of the day perhaps you have sleep apnea.

Perhaps you should go to sleep at a different time.

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I do actually have sleep apnea that probably has something to do with it desu

Some people need more than 8 hours of sleep and some are fine with less.
Young adults also need about 10 hours of sleep each night to """fully""" function.
Also depends on diet and exercise.

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I've been tired for TWO AND A HALF FUCKING YEARS STRAIGHT

Insomnia has destroyed literally every aspect of my life. I'd 100% kill myself if I didn't care for family.

>Young adults also need about 10 hours of sleep each night to """fully""" function.
Lol I got at best 3.5 during high school.

not OP but i've been this way for 9 years now. have tried so many medications, supplements, diet changes, sleep changes, had sleep studies done, gone to every kind of specialist..

Same guy replying. How tired are we talking here? How have you not killed yourself yet?

What's worked so far?

as in so tired that i failed college when i had a scholarship for my first year and things were looking good.. i'm 25 and this started when i was 16. i tried going back to school multiple times because i had no idea what else to do and have failed/dropped somewhere over 20 classes probably. my memory and concentration turned to complete shit and physical exertion leaves me exhausted for days. every dream i had, like moving to japan, is impossible now.

i'm looking more at neurotransmitters lately. 5 years ago i tried tons of antidepressants and wellbutrin worked for two months then stopped, nothing else ever helped.

i have reached the point of thinking about it all the time because i'll never be able to live in japan now, or travel the world, any of the shit i wanted to do. and i've ended up in terrible physical shape because of how much exercise affects me.

i'm just too afraid to do it, honestly. and i don't want to leave my best friend behind, if he moved or something i don't know what i would do. i've thought about taking a vacation to Aokigahara and ending it, i fantasize about. and no i'm not a weeb, have watched very little anime in my life.

>eight hours of sleep
That's way too little, try at least 12 hours.

I'm still not clear on how bad this is. For me, most often I don't want to do anything I'd normally enjoy because I'm just too tired for it.

What's actually worked for you so far?

I've been tired for the 17 years that i have lived

Please don't ban me

guess you didn't see it in the post.. only thing that ever worked, was wellbutrin for 2 months before it wore off. that was wellbutrin xl at 300mg. for those 2 months i actually did great for one semester, got As in the classes I took while working and having a gf and being a completely different person.

from a genetic test i recently had done, i apparently have a mutation of my MAOA gene where my brain breaks down neurotransmitters waaaaaaaay too fast.

You need some REALLY good sleep.

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17 years? Pic related. I mean, it can't be bad enough to warrant you still being alive

Sorry, I did see it, my retard tired brain just didn't register it properly. Are those sleeping pills?

>from a genetic test i recently had done, i apparently have a mutation of my MAOA gene where my brain breaks down neurotransmitters waaaaaaaay too fast.
Is that actually related to sleep though? This shit started when you were 16, so why would that suddenly trigger like that?

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i mention that because i would be deficient in neurotransmitters like serotonin, dopamine and norepinephrine.

in addition to all the other shit i mentioned, i do wake up all night.. but during those 2 months wellbutrin worked i slept all the way through for 8 hours, was never tired, had a memory so good i could remember entire pages word for word, learned all hiragana/katakana, some kanji, some grammar and vocab in 2 weeks

forgot to mention, i fall asleep very quickly when sitting down.. and constantly when i drive too long or too early in the day

So something fucked with your genes. I'll recommend you one of the best diets on this god damn planet that nobody knows about. The guy even claimed it can repair brain damage. "We Want To Live" by Vonderplanitz.

>i fall asleep very quickly when sitting down
Do you get sleep anxiety? That's one of the main things that fucks my sleep. The minute I lie down, torturous conditioned anxiety kicks in for hours. If I'm sat up it's not there, but I can't sleep that way. I've tried so many mental tricks to quail it, but my brain knows everything I'm doing. It's fucking perfect. I even get thoughts (not of my own doing) like "You think I don't know what you're doing? You really think that shit's gonna work on me?" and "I know what you're trying to do". AAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

i will check that out right now user, originally thank you

haven't had that but i have these bizarre deep dreams where i'm half-awake half-asleep that didn't happen until this started.. also never drooled while sleeping until this

No problem, forgot to add
>t. several years nutritional and health research

I'm with you, I need about 12 hours of sleep.

Ok maybe not 17 years but atleast 10