Is 25+ the end?

From what I can tell, early 20s is by far the biggest demographic here and then robots rapidly start disappearing?

I turn 25 in less than a month and I'm getting the fear, it always seemed just about okay to still be a NEET virgin loser in your early 20s but as the few friends you have start moving away or settling down etc and family stop giving a shit altogether I'm realising there isn't much hope anymore. I don't have any useful qualifications (A-levels but university dropout) and a 3 year gap in employment history, I'm about to run out of cash in the next 3 months and then I'm literally gonna be homeless

I've always had suicidal thoughts etc. but is it about to get real?

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yes indeedy tbqf fampai

Why you arent getting kriminal? You look like nothing to loose, so why not. Get a professional criminal, you have at least 3 months to train. Or join the army and fight for money and glory

user, it's only going to get worse unless you stop doing literally everything you're used to. If I were you I'd just give up this site altogether and try to make some legitimate friends and live a real life. Otherwise you're just going to further fade into obscurity into you reach 30 and then you're literally fucked.

just so you know, skilled craftsmen make good money and are pretty much always in demand, if you're willing to put the work in, find a technical school and invest that money you have left. Or just keep bitching on the internet and expecting things to work themselves out.

Try living on the street and in homeless shelters for 6 months at 26 because your parents died and all the money you were supposed to be saving up you spent on cars, food, hookers, steam games, anime merch and other consumer cyclicals
Having to literally wait in line with a bunch of smelly, drug addict, mentally deranged niggers and old men just for breakfast lunch or dinner
Or sometimes having to go all day or several days hardly eating anything because your food stamps are used up for the month
Now for the frosting on this feel cake, imagine being looked at and sympathized by all the boomer normies around you who are out enjoying their lives and celebrating the fact that they aren't as big a fuckup as you are
This doesn't apply to you retards living on disability because you are living on normal mode
This is for the souls who lost everything and have nothing
Welcome to 25+
You'll never be a parent
Always be a virgin
And when 30 rolls around if you aren't dead by then it's all downhill from there if you haven't already made it

>loose
Kill yourself faggot

iam not a faggot for not perfectly speaking english

You're a faggot because you smoke cock.

You can rent a garage to live in.

Dude, I was a nothing KHV until 28. At that point, finally got into Uni (Eurofag, so just entrance exams and now huge debts like Americunts). I worked my ass off there and now a little over 10 years later am in the top 10% earning ppl in my country, doing better than ever before.

The twist? Still no women. But with success like that, I actually learned to finally like myself for who I am. Don't need or want women anymore. Now I just enjoy my house, car, money, a 4k eur PC, top tier TV and console and game all day long.

It doesn't sound like much, but it's fucking awesome. And you can do that too, user.

You can only read the same threads for so many years before it gets boring, not to mention the older you get the more retarded and insufferable younger people appear to you. It's a safe bet most of them just stop coming to Jow Forums.

They can be comfy if you set them up.

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28 reporting in

Life gets better but once a robot always a robot

33 here life gets worse.

It's not the same threads. They're worse.

My life improved drastically after 25.

If you're ugly there's no real social loss from getting older. I miss being able to heal anything over night and walk forever without tiring but I feel and get treated like I'm more attractive now and I have far less worries because I'm wise to how pointless it all is.

Can you pay for my ArcheAge equipment please. :(

No begging. It's pathetic and it shits the thread up, plus they never pay out anyway.

Stop playing mmos, they're literally just cancer for your life.

I have nothing else and I'll never have anything else since I'm 40+ and from a shitty third world country and there's nothing I can do to improve anything anymore.

Literally just start applying for any minimum wage and/or part time job you can. I hear Amazon warehouses literally take anyone. Also construction and fast food. You can't know if it'll work until you try.
You can also look at programs like WWOOF where you go volunteer on someone's farm for a couple months. You get paid little/nothing but they will give you food and shelter during that time which is better than being homeless and you might be able to start making social connections.

I was 24 when I achieved top 1% earners status and still didn't manage to get a single friend, let alone love.
I never disliked myself but with all that success it feels like it's even more hopeless. As far as I know I've done nothing wrong AND I'm highly desirable and yet here I am, meaning that any further reason why I'm alone must be something inherent that I can't change. More and more waves of self-dislike are happening over time as a result.

I assume you're not homeless anymore? How did you eventually break out of it?

26 here. Most older robots dont post much, we have shitty jobs, and most threads are shit anyway.

>I hear Amazon warehouses literally take anyone.
I hear you're a fucking slave like at the aldi warehouses

3 options:

- Suicide

- miserable life as a minimum wage slave worker

- miserable life as a homeless fucker


Your decision

Is any warehouse job good?

I feel for you man. All I can say is that it got really fucking bad for me too. I mean, I spent 25 years of my life on chasing after girls (from 9 to about 34). Eventually I got burned real bad by a few women and somehow it finally hit me: A whole lifetime of feeling inferior and fucked up that women didn't like me, and finally I realized the reality of the situation.

That I had spent 25 years on dreaming and fawning after them, and they had given nothing back. That I made 5 times more money than most of them, had better education than most of them, tried my best every time and nothing was enough. And then it just clicked. I realized I respected myself, my effort and my work far more than I did women. The fact that I'd made myself into who I was all alone with not one bit of support on the way, only emphasized this point.

It's one thing to logically think be pissed off and think you don't need or want women. It's another entirely to internalize this, to really understand it on an instinctual level. When even your heart just doesn't give a fuck about them anymore.

My life has been so much better since then, you have no fucking clue. So I don't know exactly what happened to give me that experience, and if it'll happen to you. But I'm telling you, hold on. Keep going. Because this life that I have now? It's fucking awesome. I'm a loner but no longer feel alone. And every day I have the time, the money, the resources and the freedom to do basically whatever the fuck I want.

>At that point, finally got into Uni
What did you study? I want to turn my life around too.

I've heard conflicting stories. There were some horror stories around the holiday season of people passing out from exhaustion at work because that's when they're busiest. Most of the other stories I've heard say it's not that bad of a place to work. You're on your feet jogging and lifting things for 10 hours a day, but then you usually get a three day weekend. It's not fun but it's manageable. Some people have been there for a year or more and they're not dead yet clearly. And they pay a few dollars more than minimum wage.
Either way, I'd think being a slave is better than being homeless.

Computer sciences. Since I'd been an nerd all my life and just sat by my computer all the time anyway, that was the natural choice. And goddamn was the school easy too. Most people studying or working CS, believe it or not, don't have a background in spending their whole fucking lives by a computer.

But the work was hard at first. Get your mind around that. You need to put real effort in to boost start your career. After the right tools, knowledge and mindset though, it's fun and comfortable from that point on. And damned profitable. Also, not having a family is a fucking massive competitive edge at least in this business. Not something I go out of my way telling people irl, but being able to work whenever I want or is required and not being on sick leave 20% of the time because the kid or wife or whatever is sick etc. family dramas, is BIG.

If you get that far, just become the guy that people count on. The guy who gets shit done, when nobody else does it. That gives you the leverage you need.

>Most people studying or working CS, believe it or not, don't have a background in spending their whole fucking lives by a computer.
Most people working in CS are fucking shit at it. If you actually like the work you'll be ahead by a mile, if you've got an IQ above 100 you'll be ahead by half a mile.

Well what can I say. All true.

How bad is the economy in the UK right now?

The US is actually doing pretty well. In my town right now, the factories (hell, even the supermarkets) are scraping the bottom of the barrel to find workers - and I live in a shit rural New England area.

The fricking Aldi is paying $15 an hour. You can walk in as a lifelong NEET to the auto parts factory and get $17 an hour. It's crazy.

These are obviously not great wages, but it's way above minimum wage.

Fuck I will defenitly commit suicide in the next 2 years. let's see what I get from life knowing i only have 2 years left.

Partly because after 23 your hormones settle down and you don't crave sex as much as you do at 19. I'm 24 and left r9k last year because I'm not sad anymore due to lack or sex or friends.
Still a neet tho which is a bummer. I really thought I would make it by now lol but its increasingly looking like I probably won't ever make it.

btw this post was referring to why robots disappear from r9k after early twenties.

I don't care if I'm a failure or not as long as I'm comfy. I have no drive unless my comfort is threatened. What's wrong with me?

>after 23 your hormones settle down and you don't crave sex as much as you do at 19. I'm 24

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Ballpuss my dud. Ballpuss too

What? I used to be really fucking sad over my inablility to get women at 19. Now I think I dodged a bullet desu. Women are not worth it.

I'll be 29 in a few months. I was never that bothered, but I think I've become increasingly satisfied with my lot in life as I've got older. I have a minimum wage job and I'm a virgin. This is just how it was meant to be. I don't think even think about it most days

Totally this, my cut-off age was at 30, actually. I think thats where the Wizard Meme comes from. When you just lose that fuckin incesant noise in your head about tfwngf

How come I just don't care? I don't care if I'm a failure or not. All I care about is my dopamine hits and comfiness

He meant that you're full of shit. You referred to the hormones as some scientific fact that apply to all people at the age of 23. And that's some retard level bullshit.

At the age of 24 you don't even know jack shit yet. You have many more years to throw hissy fits over missed pussy, and trust me, that's what you're gonna do too. You just don't know it yet.

Fucking kids always think they know everything...

Average age on any board is probably 18 or younger. People in their twenties are the minority unfortunately.

Then you have already been elevated brother. This world is like a dream, no need to make it a nightmare if it can be so comfy

Huh? Yeah well I was talking generally. At 24 you aren't as mad over pussy as at 19. Also I did my research on women and am legitimately glad that I didn't get stuck with one through marriage or whatever.

I got married last week (in b4 fuck off ree).
I met her almost 10 years ago and she has been my gf ever since, i took her virginity and all. I was kinda like dreading getting married but i finally decided to fucking do it.

I'm 26 and I feel like my horny levels have increased more than anything. I think men generally want to fuck a lot until their mid forties.

Mine was 30 too. But it was gradual, didn't happen instantly. Had a massive depression at about 30, then over the next 3-4 years I increasingly lost interest in women until after about 34 I just didn't give a fuck anymore.

It's weird, really. You spend a whole lifetime stressing about women, sex, companionship and family so you think there is nothing beyond it. Your entire personality is built around it so you literally can't even imagine a life without that need, that constant urge.

And suddenly it's all gone. You remember who you used to be, but it's almost like that sad fuck was a different person. Now you honestly no longer want to go to parties, you honestly don't give a fuck about what you look or sound like to women, your fashion, studies, work, hobbies, all of the things you used to stress about how they seemed... now you just don't care.

I mean you still take care of yourself for the sake of job and friends etc. but women are no longer any kind of part of the equation. No matter how hot, how kind a woman you meet, you just don't give a fuck. You've completely internalized that not only is there never EVER in a billion years going to be anything between the two of you, you wouldn't want to waste your time on useless fucks like that even if you could.

It's fucking awesome, let me tell you that. All that stress and anxiety and time and work and money and effort... you just naturally replace it with shit you actually like, shit you're good with. Hobbies, games, work, etc.

Enjoy being 40 and stuck with a crazy fat nagging bitch lmao.
>Jerk off
>Need for women gone
>Can enjoy your hobbies in peace

Urgh, while feeling like crap for the past few weeks, I had feelings of loneliness again too.
Hate to admit that feeling the most.

Stupid humans and there hardwired functions.

Yeah fapping makes it go away but I can't deny while I'm fapping I wish I was balls deep in a woman impregnating her. It's just a natural craving that claws in the back of my mind even though I'm still a virgin. Natural instincts are weird.

>Jerk off

>have no hobbies, suddenly feeling total emptiness overwhelming you

buy a fleshlight, get it warm, close your eyes.
Problem solved

I've bought two and I cannot get into them at all, ripped the shit out of them too even though I tried my hardest to be slow and gentle. Still prefer my hand. No imitation is going to replace sticking your penis into another living human. It's not just the physical aspect.

Fuck that noise man. You have to use that dopamine liberation to rewire your brain.

What i do is instantly after nutting, i close all those damn tabs in the browser and focus on what you were trying to do/learn (play the piano in my case) and after you do that a few times your mind associates dopamine relase with playing the piano and you are set!

try it a few times, nothing to lose. Just train your own monkey brain like you would with a fucking dog. Your brain also likes glucose so force it to do something and then reward it with glucose/sugar.

Depends on what you want from life.
If you're looking for your first relationship past 25, you're going to have a tough time. Frankly, I don't think its worth the energy.
Other things like starting a career or finishing college can easily be done past that age. I didn't go to a CC until 26-27, and had an 8 year job gap.
Assuming you live with you parents still, I am sure they'd be willing to let you live at their place if you went to a CC and attempted to get your shit together.

I go to the escorts like once every six month and it does take care of that noise. Just pay a really good one and a full hour.

I don't want to do anything or learn anything.
I am dead insides.

I probably will have to eventually.

How do you find them now that backpage is gone?

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>tfw autistic and on autismbux
Feels like I'm genetically superior sometimes with all the government money I get.

>tfw you taught yourself to work out by allowing yourself to nut as soon as you're done
>tfw your retarded brain now automatically gets horny when you finish a workout

> by allowing yourself to nut as soon as you're done

what do you mean by this, user?

my brain does not get horny when i finish a workout, i just use the dopamine to help me start doing the thing.

Read up about dopamine, its the anticipation chemichal, not the reward chemical

Good idea desu. So basically as soon as you nut start doing something productive, like coding in my case. Then your brain will be like, "ok when i start coding i get a dopamine hit so I should code more".

No. Just do online dating and build up XP. Soon you will start to notice that women get easier to engage in convo

was that your first degree? I'm 24 and already have a degree in EE but I worked in IT for a couple of years and a neet now. I was hoping I'd eventually switch to web dev but I'm just passing my days away without doing much. do you think it'll be a good idea if I try to do masters?

My life got better in my late 20s. Actually had a long term relationship for the first time in my life. Have a decent job and make enough money to live comfortably. About to turn 28 here and life is pretty sweet.

Like I said, I was a trash-tier NEET & bottom barrel worker shit until my late 20's. So yes. My first degree.

Holy shit you're an idiot. How do you fuck up that hard? Gr8 b8 m8 I r8 8/8.

how were you able to change your ways?

Honestly? Got bored. So utterly, goddamn bored that I actually got up my lazy ass and tried something for the first time in my life. It was gradual, one thing at a time and changed to actual ambition and joy of achievement on the way, but that was much later.

Insane boredom started it all. Years on years of doing fucking nothing, and getting sick of it.

That's the bottom of the pit, as I see it.

You know, when i was 16 i said "well I'll certainly kill myself before 18" then i was 18 and then 21 and i got a concealed weapons permit and have a gun on me 24/7 and now im 24 almost 25 and at least once every single week i think about killing myself and my life has too much potential to quit now, which i guess is white privilege.

but i swear i am just waiting for something catastrophic to happen to really just let me know that ALL the fucking suffering and pain that i went through in hopes of something better coming along down the road was not worthwhile and there is nothing to hope for, beyond short term satiation of emotional emptiness.

And Israel, and the snake-headed aliens that run the oil industry.

I'm not white, but I'm thinking to blast myself when I turn 30 and my dad dies.

I have 15% black DNA, so I've got black happiness genetics. I don't think it works out enough when I get stressed out though, so I intend to just suicide and die if my life gets hard.

How long have you been working a job?
I'm 22 years old and haven't even kissed a girl, so I know suicide is my answer.

I'm glad you figured things out. I hope I wake up soon from this.

I've had non-corporate, mom and pop jobs since i was 18. Never had anything I'd call a real job, except I worked in retail some. My roomate is trying to hook me up with a almost 6 figure job doing business infrastructure consulting but if that falls through I am going to commit suicide.

user, don't even worry about it.
I had similar worries a month ago being out of a job, just let things run their course. Study up ahead of time on how to survive if you do end up homeless, make an effort, but don't try to control things, things always pan out by themselves

So do I, user. For what it's worth, I totally believe you can do it. I'm not the only person I know in my life who had a similar history, so our story isn't that rare or unlikely after all.

Get ready for hell if it does go through, but you're in for a rough time for a bit either way. Might as well go for the one that has a brighter ending.

I wish you luck. I hope you get it.

I don't understand how you could feel like killing yourself at 16 though. It's probably just your race.

That was, for me, the time I spent two days up straight playing video games.

Now I can't play for an hour without getting bored, and I think, with time, I'm going to fall through the floor because I can't help myself because I lack conscientiousness due to my blood.

Kids who lose a parent before age 10 have like a 90%(maybe less?) rate of developing major depression disorder so that's where I fit in.

Ya there's something fucked up with your dopamine/reward system with depression so its like you don't care about the things you used to care about.

Yeah but you two have money and probably enjoy your jobs to some degree. If you don't even have that there's nothing to be happy about in life anymore.

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You absolutely need to understand that we did NOT get here by magic. If you read on, you'd see that I was a literal loser almost up until my 30's. From that point on I studied and worked HARD for 10 years to basically get to where I am now. We weren't born into this, but had to earn it. From the same piece of shit position you're in, claw our way all the way up here.

I know, this is going to be ridiculous, but one stupid thing that really helped me was Trinity's line in the first Matrix movie:

> Switch : Our way, or the highway.
> Neo : Fine.
> Trinity : Please, Neo. You have to trust me.
> Neo : Why?
> Trinity : Because you have been down there, Neo. You know that road. You know exactly where it ends. And I know that's not where you want to be.

The second I heard that, it resonated more strongly with me than anything before or since has. Not because of the movie, not because of the plot, screw all that shit. It resonated because those words described exactly what I had thought about most of my life. Only I had no words for that feeling. Not before that line in the movie.

I was a NEET, loser, on and off poor jobs, felt like shit, thought about suicide, and everything sucked ass. And there it was: If you keep doing (or not doing) what you've always done, you get what you've always gotten. Nothing will ever change.

Slowly, over time, with enough boredom and being pissed off with myself, powered with the fact that I knew that sentence to be 100% true, I finally kicked my own ass up and made something of myself.

I'm sorry if this sounds like I'm a shill. I just hope it can give you some of the power and determination it gave me.