your soul dies when you hit your 30s. everything after 30 is pure cope
Justin Reed
An attempt to shame men into becoming debt slaves for the banks. Cool.
Henry Anderson
Your 30th birthday should mean government extermination. What use to society is a BALD, WHITE, FAT, SINGLE, TIRED 30 year old?
James Murphy
Sage. Not giving you advice because you're too insecure to just admit you're that 30 year old.
Oliver Baker
I'm trying to maintain the muscle I build in my 20s.
That being said I mostly agree with you. If someone hasn't built a decent base in their 20s it's too late to start in their 30s. Men should make it their goal to get as close to their genetic potential as they can by about 25, then come in 2-3 times a week to maintain from that point onwards.
Same as everyone else, but with worse results because hormones and stress. If he's a beginner, he'll do SS and harvest dat dad strength, if not he'll do a push/pull or upper/lower based on the TM... or not, because he might already be injured and shit and will need to cope with that. It will be extra important to fix all the hormonal shit we talk about but sorta ignore, onions, sleeping schedule, grass fed eggs and beef, you know. Also, time will be much more of an issue, so a short and sweet routine will be better than a 5-days long split. Homegym should also be a possible consideration, to optimize your schedule.
Charles Thompson
>If someone hasn't built a decent base in their 20s it's too late to start in their 30s. Men should make it their goal to get as close to their genetic potential as they can by about 25, then come in 2-3 times a week to maintain from that point onwards. >Cope 30: Cope Harder It's never too late, for longevity and health in your old age it's best to get in as young as possible and never stop (whitout getting injured), but starting late is a lot better than never training at all.
Jace Johnson
>It's too late
Posts like yours is why Jow Forums is now shit and you belong in Jow Forums Fuck this whole site, it has been a black hole of negativity for at least 10 years but Jow Forums used to be good until recently. I'm out, hope you Jow Forumstards and robots make everyone else leave so that you can just wallow in self-pity 24/7 and mass suicide eventually.
Didn't mean to sound so negative. I just meant it's too late to hit your potential you could have made in your 20s.
While someone starting in their 30s will make gains, they're just so much slower than someone can make in their 20s, you have to work 5 times as hard for the same result (not hyperbole, it's literally going to take 5 times as long).
Also the risk of injury just feels so much more real. I never throw more than 90% of my PR on the bar anymore, it's just not worth the risk/ recovery time anymore.
If someone is trying to improve themselves they should definitely hit the gym if they feel that's the best path for their goals, so long as they maintain reasonable expectation management on where they'll be by the time they're 40.
>you have to work 5 times as hard for the same result (not hyperbole, it's literally going to take 5 times as long). You should stop doing ohps, the bar is evidently hitting your head every rep. If you're taking literally 5 times as long it's because you're not a beginner anymore, and your hormone managment isn't on point yet, so your recovery is way worse than it should be at your age. Fixing a lifestyle is hard, but that's the real objective for those lifting past their 30s. Establish and keep up an healthy lifestyle, then the gains will improve.
I'm not talking about myself personally, I'm talking about guys I see who start at the gym at 30.
When I was working on progression I got up to 545/455/350. I don't lift heavy anymore for the reasons I've described.
That being said, I've seen a whole lot of guys who start in their 20s go from 95lbs to 225 lbs on their bench in a year. I almost never see guys starting in their 30s hit a 2 plate bench.
Again I'm not trying to discourage people in their 30s, just provide expectation management. Mainly I just want to give guys in their 20s a warning that they need to get off their asses. You don't have forever, every day you become a little less than the person you could have been.
Benjamin Lewis
Lol, the absolute state of America. Complete failure of a society, no wonder you have teenagers resorting to murdering their classmates.
Ian Adams
Jow Forums is full of retarded teens who unironically think life ends at 30 because of their limited (read: non existant) life experience and their desolate social lives.
I've known people in their mid 40s to start exercising and get good bodies for their age. Of course they're not as good as if they'd started earlier, but thats the same with basically everything. The point is that you can still greatly improve your physique and health.
I know fucking 90 year olds with morning exercise routines. Obviously its not to bulk or cut or get shredded, but these are the ones that can still fucking walk and live independently, while inactive people just wither away.
Its also a defeatist mentality that a lot of people on Jow Forums adopt in order to avoid the uncomfortable reality of confronting their poor life choices. People find it easier to say "what's the point when you're not a 10/10" rather than face the fact that their lives would be much better if they weren't so lazy or stupid.
Cameron Wilson
Wat a douchebag
Nicholas Foster
>I've seen a whole lot of guys who start in their 20s go from 95lbs to 225 lbs on their bench in a year. I almost never see guys starting in their 30s hit a 2 plate bench. You're seeing people fucking around, they aren't lifting. There are plenty of 30+ guys hitting 2p while on SS.
Lincoln Jenkins
tfw 36 tfw bought an appartment in 2009 tfw sold it and make huge profit and bought a bigass house tfw married
god im so glad im not a young person today trying to get in on the housing market
Every time has its market. Last year it was egregiously bitcoins. Nobody knows what will be next, but there's always something popping up.
Parker Morales
>started when I was 27 >just turned 30 >370 1rpm for bench >just got 315x5 last week >not sore, dont use gear, no sign of slowing down
Too many guys on this board project their depressed cynicism way too fucking hard. It's obvious most of you don't lift and just come on here to larp and complain. This should be a place of knowledge and positivity not yet another r9k clone for depressed 22 year olds to fag up.
Only speaking from my own anecdotal experience. Please tell me what part of what I've described is douchebaggy? Would you prefer I lie to people and tell them they can be a bodybuilder when they start at 35? I just think it's important for people to have a reasonable baseline to set their goals.
My routine at 34 looks pretty much like my routine at 26. 15-20 miles and 3-4 hours of lifting a week. Maintaining 1.8/3/4/5.
Jace Diaz
you have it all figured out
Connor Ortiz
My metabolism has slowed down a bit in my 30s but I have compensated by altering my diet and alcohol intake (not really much drinking at all). I look like I'm in better shape than 80 percent of my friends in their 20s and still fuck more hot girls than most of them. 30s has been a lot better than 20s, 30s has been awesome so far.
Cooper Roberts
I started after 30 with pathetic lifts. After 2 years all lifts are at least upper intermediate / advanced. I train 2x a week usually. I took a whole month off once. Went from around 72 kg to 84 kg at 182 cm, bodyfat stable around 12-14%. I eat slightly above maintenance, no supps other than B12
Oliver Davis
Almost turning 22 and life is moving faster and faster. In no time I will be that 30 year old who goes to the gym
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Leo Morris
No real difference. Pic related for my workout. 37.