/fast/ #205 - Dr. Caryn Zinn is CUTE edition

yes i was contemplating that. i just figure that when i do it i should take the time to also trim my back, arms and legs so it doesn't look weird.

>my fat was just broken down for the 40% water contend they have
That makes sense.
During my last fast I noticed I was a lot less thirsty.

Brita filters don't do shit. I have the meme ceramic filter and it seems to do the trick.

>spend shitton of cash on filters
>evian still is better

Oh well.

Can you get a tape measure and see if you shrank a bit?
I wonder how dry fasts affect the spine.

>day 5 SJ fast
>so fucking sore
I would normally pound some carb free sipps, but I don't want to spike my insulin and start catabolizing muscle.

Guess I'll just take today off from the gym, rest up for my usual heavy Thursday workout, and then break my fast. I'm amazed at how much training I've been able to do in a fasted state.

Tomorrow, aftern I hit the gym, it'll be a week since my last "meal". It consisted of krill oil and a protein shake. I'll probably break my fast the same way.

I hate that's I can't tell anyone I've gone a week without eating.

kek sure

Dr. Caryn Zinn's presentation on fasting:
youtu.be/8BYvHgs-oww
>that mixed South African + New Zealand accent

Oh shit. Day 6. Maybe the brain fog is real? Or maybe It's the sleep deprivation.

1/2 cm shorter but i had to use a highly inaccurate measure method since i am alone and my tape measure didnt extend past 150cm. so i dont think you will have to worry about it.

>5 more minutes

okay so what i will do is drink the glass that contains 1 teaspoon of baking soda and probably a glas from the other container which is the old concentrated snakejuice, then i will hit up the shower and probably drink from it a little.
after that i will probably get some more snakejuice and baking soda and then i will start chewing on some lemon juice icecubes i made. or grind them down and eat them. after that i might go for some AVC or just get my cold brew green tea.

Good effort.

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more like refeed hour

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So, im thinking about doong HIIT on my fasting days
Nothing insane, just an alternate day fasting, but with really intense running

You people usually recommend moderate exercise for longer fasts, to avoid losing muscle and feeling extra shit
But what about only alternare day fasting?
What do Jow Forums think?

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I do this but with nipples of venus.

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i would recommend slow cardio if you are going for fat loss.
HIIT is for when your not fasted and want to decrease your heart rate and increase your muscle power

How the fuck do you tards hard dry fast? I can understand not showering and washing hands but is the whole "don't sprinkle on your leg when you piss" and avoid ALL water contact no matter how minimal thing just a meme? I'm freaking out about how my dog licked me for a second or how I sneezed on my arm earlier.

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Have been swimming and dieting to lose weight consistently since February, will intermittent fasting on a 3 hour feeding window help with weight loss. I see so much conflicting evidence about it having no effect since CICO just rules it out. Don't know whether to trust (((their))) articles or Jow Forumsizens anecdotal advice?

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Dont be a fast nazi, just dont wash your hands faggit

What is the whoosh effect?

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Snakeman says to do your first 48 hour fast using about a liter of the snake juice a day but also a liter of regular water. I can drink more regular water right? I talk to people all day for work and my mouth gets dry.

that's with the old recipe, it was so loaded with salt and potassium that it basically needed to be cut with pure water. the new one is much milder and it's all you need. also for a 48 hour fast you may not even need it.

Your question is a bit confusing. You're asking if 21:3 IF is better than eating all day but cutting calories? You will definitely lose more weight on IF.

But I *can* drink more regular water than a liter without ruining anything, correct.

Sorry, what I am asking is doing IF actually work, have looked at articles and everything is conflicting. A lot say IF doesn't even work.

I'm asking about 1500kcal vs 1500kcal on 21:3 IF.

Hope this clears it up, sorry for autism.

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Yep, it's all about how you're feeling. Just be aware that the more water you drink the more electrolytes you flush out, leading to an increased need to replenish them.

Yes, it works. It's very easy to test yourself, do it for a week and you'll see. I'm , on all the days I wasn't water fasting I was doing 16:8 IF.

Have anything a little more comprehensive?

just google it my dude, the gist is that you suddenly lose a bunch of water weight overnight after a refeed

Thanks for clarifying.

Day 4 of water fast completed. So far this evening has been the hardest. Massive food cravings and hunger waves. Was very tired for some reason, but coffee helped with that. Still shitting water on a regular basis.

Question: is it ok if ketosticks dont go all the way up. It says “large” but not the top one.

You will lose more on 21:3 than spreading the calories throughout the day because the trigger to burn your fat is low insulin. On IF it will be low most of the time, eating over the day will continuously spike it back up into feeding mode making weight loss much slower.

this was pretty weird. i kinda felt the water streaming through my intestines.
anyway i have like 70% more energy already after 1 hour. i might go for an evening stroll.
als my lemon juice was very doable. i had made my own lemon juice from lemons and froze it. what i did now was put it in a mixer so it turned to powder. that powder was pretty good. i cant fucking wait to do this with orange juice. thats probably gonna be a mainstay desert from now on. it has a great texture.

You're doing great brah. It's not a competition to get into the deepest possible ketosis, just don't eat, that's all there is to it.

Ok, Thank you both. Also I swim in the morning as soon as I wake up, and eat late afternoon early evening will this also have any affect on weight loss?

I did something similar this morning, before breaking my fast I drank baking soda, ACV, and lemon juice then waited about an hour. I could feel all sorts of squishy activity happening in my gut.

I have a lot of trouble making it past 48 hr wet due to being light headed. Any advice? Maybe I should do the pink salt. Never heard of this before checking out this thread.

how long does it take during a fast for hormones to sort of "reset" a little bit?

Yes, you're burning more calories so you're speeding up weight loss.

Feeling lightheaded, fatigue, weak, etc. are signs of low electrolytes. Use the new snakejuice recipe (sodium, potassium, baking soda, and magnesium) and you'll feel right as rain.

Depends which hormones you mean. IGF-1 starts climbing immediately, ~300% in 5 days. Sex hormones drop during a fast. Ghrelin waves (hunger hormone) grow on days 1 and 2 then plummet starting on day 3. Adrenaline and cortisol are slightly higher than baseline during a fast.

Thanks mang. Dreaming of that steak and cheese I am gonna get on Friday evening to break the fast.

Does anyone know if body downregulate the kcal expedenture during the fast?

yeah i don't really know what hormones specifically, i'm just 72 hours deep into my fast and my main goal was to just sort of give my systems (immune, hormonal and gut bacteria) a bit of a soft reset. does a 5 day fast sound like it would achieve that or should i go longer?

I want to park my Caryn her Zinn

where is innawoods? can I get an invite to your discord the one in the archive is expired

90% of all tap water on earth is shit but if you live in a decently sized city like Milwaukee and get your water from a body of water then you're literally fine using tap. I wouldn't drink the water from the well in the cottage up north Wisconsin.

Your baseline RMB (resting metabolic rate) actually increases during fasting.

The general meme is that a 72 hour fast "resets" your immune system, but of course nothing is ever that simple. Autophagy continuously increases for the first 4-5 days, and this is what will destroy your senescent and dysfunctional cells (immune and otherwise). If autophagy is your goal, and it sounds like it is, shoot to hit at least day 5.

Appreciate it thanks. Another probably stupid question, what easily identifiable amount is two liters? I have kinda crappy internet connection at work, or what do you buy for this? Or do you get a gallon jug and just pour two liters in it? I want to try and get this ready for tomorrow as it will be the start of my second day again.

For the snake juice, anyone who lives in Toronto area can help me out finding a store where I could get potassium chloride powder? or is it something I should be able to find in any walmart or shoppers drugmart?

Two liters of water weighs 2kg.

A standard bottle of water is 500ml, which is 1/2 liter.

yeah my original goal was to hit 7 days, but this is my first fast ever so i'm starting to doubt my ability to get to the full 7 days. i know for sure i can reach 5 though so i'll reassess what to do when i get there

1/2 liter bottles are the small portable ones.

ya just look for "nosalt" in the salt aisle of any grocery store i.e loblaws

I'm trying again fit
Hoopefully I can stick this out. I'm at 24 hours and I'm hoping to hit 4 weeks no food to try to knock out half of my weightloss, then I'll switch to OMAD keto with weekend water fasts.
Wish me luck I'm gonna make it this time

Thanks figured out how I'm gonna do it! Appreciate it. Also, what is the science behind breaking a fast when eating? Is there any type of food in particular to go for?

>day 3 water fasting with snake juice
>just a little hungry
>go on a six mile walk
>appetite now so low that the thought of eating makes me sick
what the fuck

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do you know veronica

Is that some kind of drug store in Toronto I never heard of before?

i am so glad i live in the netherlands, if only because our tap water is basically mineral water.

Hell, I'm just glad I'm living in Milwaukee. Waukesha right now, but we still use the same lake water and treatment systems. I never knew how garbage tap water can be until I went up north and it smelled like fucking eggs while washing my hands.

Just gonna watch the shit out of the videos, nevermind. I'm not obese, about 215, 6'1. Would like to get down to 200.

nah she's a person. white lady. cleans teeth.

If you're doing short fasts (up to 48 hours) don't worry about it. Beyond that just start small. I broke a 5 day fast last night, had about 100 calories then waited an hour, then about 200 then waited another hour, then had about 500. Think of it like food foreplay.

Anyone know of an accurate scale? As much as I'd like to believe I lost 7.5lb in one night I don't think fasting is that powerful. Especially since it was a feeding day.

What's the earliest age someone can safely try fasting? I'm sure OMAD can be done without consequence for anyone that can walk, but is it advisable to try to get them to do more than one day?

i found this interesting.
youtube.com/watch?v=4XVf36nwraw
nott really fasting related but i am looking at what to eat when i dont fast.

... yeah, an accurate scale. Um...

Fuck You. Is that accurate enough? You're a fucking faggot. Bitch.

jk

;_;

No! Nooo buddy come on. No. I'm sorry.

how do you break dryfasts? im starting with a 48 hour dryfast. should i even worry about what to break it with unless im going into the 5+ day range?

feces and glass

i really want to eat.

I really don't want to eat.

you guys shouldn't 69

Does anyone know if green tea is a meme? i find chamomille tea way tastier but you dont see people tout the longevity of that herb a lot.

baking soda is the only thing that might be important.

Any food or avoid “heavy”? Is a pack of beef jerky a good idea to break the fast? What about cheese?

getting fucking baked and drinking soda? yea that's the plan my nigga lol

baking soda alkalizes your body. this helps because after a dryfast your kidneys will be very acidic.

>unrealistic goals for first fast

Do a 48 first then come and ask.

Fine, the fast trolls are out.

should i not do this if both my parents have had kidney stones, Dr. Anonymous?

sip some water first, then a few min later drink the whole glass, wait a bit, drink another glass. 30 min later mix half water half orange juice to dilute. then wait a bit and drink just straight orange juice. Move on to a banana after and let your stomach wake up and start digesting before you move on from that. I'd stay away from foods like dairy and meat for a few days. This is how I do it and i've rarely had a problem. I might be more cautious than some people but i've heard horror stories of people eating meat right after a dry fast and being in excruciating pain.

Just dont wash your hands or obviously shower. It's ok if you get a bit of water on your skin though it wont affect your dry fast.

Kidney stones aren't genetic.

>germaphobe
>doesn't know about alcohol

Nigga I don't believe you.

Just use alcohol on the offending areas.

I started with a little soft fruit, then had some eggs.

baking soda dissolves kidney stones and dryfasting will help you get rid of them. THOUGH if you already have kidney stones you should not dryfast because you will start expunging all of them at once and it might fuck you up. but if you have no troubles now you will probably just experience slightly burning piss on your first few dryfasts. when your on a long dryfast and your piss just feels like normal piss, you know your kidneys are completely clean.

a waterfast with the new snakejuice might help since it uses baking soda.
apparently apple cider vinegar and lemon juice helps clean kidneys too, but i am not knowledgeable on what they do exactly.

if your fast adapted and been trought multiple ones you can eat pretty dirty to break. you will just have sulphur burbs the next day.
i like to break my fast with my own fermented food because i am reading up on the gut health meme.

Muslim kids dry fast during Ramadan. And you see what it does to them.

Uh. . . .

How do i measure shit out to make snake juice? Like how do I know what a teaspoon is? All my spoons look unique in size

thank you my darling sweeties

I told you it's a /fat/ raid.

72 hour fast and last 48 were hard dry other than washing my hands occasionally and ate some bomb ass curry and got a free thai tea with boba. shit never tasted so good before

I hope I shit out this curry in a huge explosion later

straight back into fasting now. I love 48-72 hour fasts with 1 meal in between.. it works for me so well and I still lose a lot of weight. down 30 pounds so far after 6 weeks! (though the first 3 weeks were just regular exersize with healthy 3 meal a day eating)

23 hours into my first 24 hour fast. I feel pretty good and I'm gonna break the fast with a low carb taco salad. I'm gonna make it.