/fraud/ - The Bell Curve

Aryan edition

Before asking your stupid beginner questions, make sure to read:

reddit.com/r/steroids/wiki

Also, include:
>age
>time spent lifting
>height
>weight
>BF%
>dick symmetry

Oral-only cycles are stupid, so do so if you're trash.

We can't help you dose your AI, figure it out yourself.

And most importantly,

NO SOURCE TALK

Previously on white people are responsible for black criminality general

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>cat came back from the vet
>thought I would may have to put him down
>vet said he's okay, just needs some medication

Hug your pets tight.

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Cats are shit tier pets and just get hair everywhere.

Crusaders gay so it's a given

Depends on what type of cat you get. My exgf had two cats, one was a total bitch and hated being picked up but for some reason would let me pick her up but nobody else. The other cat was relaxed all the time and you could flop him over your shoulder and he wouldn't care.

My cat used to be very relaxed since he grew up around 3 young children, you could accidentally pull out his whiskers and he just wouldn't care. Now he's older he's a lot more needy now. He's not happy unless he's in some way touching me, whether that be on my lap, sitting on my feet or laying on my keyboard. He's an old boy so I want to make the last bit of his life good.

>My exgf

christ...

???

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She’s getting dicked by chad and has already forgotten about you. Stop bringing her up.

You guys are really reaching. What's next?

Crusader: "The sky is blue."
Anons: "uh I just looked outside and the sky is black you fucking retard, kys."

Cats are beta though

Fuck cats, answer my question from the last thread
What should I use as a second compound?
Deca? EQ? Tren? DHB you guys memed hard about that a few threads back?
Or should I kill my liver with an oral?

How else do I mention I interacted with two cats regularly that don't belong to me without it sounding really weird?

Remembering her doesn't bother me at all. It's just simply the fact that I spent the last 4 years of my life and literally my entire adult life with her and so I have a lot of memories and experience where she was a primary participant.

What are you goals loser? I know nothing about DHB at all other than it's pip city.

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My theory is that cats domesticated us. Why would you want to be the animal controlled by another one?

Are any of you guys involved in the cuck or hotwife scenes as bulls?

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What are your goals and what else are you a'runnin'?

>do their own thing, they don't even need you but Grace's you with their company
>low maintenance, will literally wash themselves
>kill small animals and brings them to you

Sounds pretty metal to me

>What are you goals loser? I know nothing about DHB at all other than it's pip city.
Bulking loser
Only considering EQ cause it's low side effects, but that's not a huge deal. They have ai and shit for that

Hah. At first I thought the girl in that photo was sitting forward in a skirt and he really weird fat knees/legs. If you see what I mean it'll ruin it for you.

It'll be my second cycle so just test 500mg/week + something new
Im not opposed to just upping my test dose too
Bulking btw

If you're using test as your primary compound, EQ would be a good choice.

Have you used other compounds? I would say try an oral, bulking on dbol is awesome. You could up the test too.

>300mg of tren ace everyday.

Somebody stop me I just ordered 50g more. I need 2.25mg of Prami every night. My cock is thicker. I’m literally a furnace if I eat carbs.

Any specific reason for it being a good choice aside from low rate of side effects? I've read it isn't very powerful for bulking
No, just test. Orals sketch me out because of liver toxicity. Do I do anything during cycle to prevent damage or is it all post cycle recovery?
All I find when I Google it is shills selling their liver support products and milk thistle. Obviously blood tests would tell me if im healthy, but if im not what do I do?

Last I heard TUDCA was supposed to be great, that was years ago people were talking about that though.

It really isn't a big deal at all, if you abuse orals for years on end and drink heavily then yeah you'll probably have a problem eventually. But with your fresh little liver a dbol cycle will be totally fine.

It's for sure less damaging than having one beer a day.

>having a good day, in a fine mood
>gf comes gome
>suddenly angry as fuck

Not sure why I'm angry but her presence really pisses me off recently. I resent her but not sure why.

You should probably get out of that relationship

The unless would be if you moved in together recently or if you're in just one of those phases. Sometimes when you spend all of your time with one person, even if they're your favorite person, sometimes they just get on your nerves.

Cool cool I'll probably go with dbol. Haven't drank since I was a teen. Ive never bought a legal beer lol
Any positive things you think about her?
Why are you with her?

Get her to cut you.

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We’ve lived together 2 years.

I go through phases where I love her utterly then hate her abs being near her makes me mad. I thinks it’s triggered by perceived slights or disrespect.

>Hate her abs being near me

Have her gain some weight breh.


But really, only you know the deal. It could be that you don't like her anymore (whether or not you love someone, I think breakups should be based on if you still like them) or it could be just a phase.

Are you running any gear that corresponds to your feelings? Like if you're blasting a bunch of tren right now I'd say don't blame the relationship.

Can I get them source for dat dere juice?
Im planning to do oral only with the max dosage a human can take. Not going to take asin and PCT btw.
Also reddit sucks

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End your suffering. Get bleach a gallon of bleach and vinegar then mix them together

What's a good PED for somebody who has no real business using one? 26, been lifting once or twice week for a bit over 2 years, have an okay but not excellent diet. I'm obviously not going to get the most out of it, but I'm curious about what sort of difference it would make. What's something easy/safe to take just for the heck of it? I really don't need mega-gains, since I'll probably lose most/all of it when I stop, so weak SARM shit would be fine.

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MemeK667

>wake up
>feel small as fuck
>measure arms
>mfw 39cm
>they grew
>fucking magic

Good morning fraud.

OHAYOGOZAIMASU

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Well I fucked up that spelling.

Is masteron a meme compound? My source has 250mg tren E for a good price and a tren/mast blend 250/250 for only $15 extra.

Kinda. It’s not really noticeable but I always run it if I’m doing high test to keep my shbg in check.

A blend like that isn’t going to hold unless he’s using guiaicol or it’ll hurt like fuck.

more likely that that blend is either tren only or under dosed as fuck
Masteron raws are decently expensive (compared to test/dbol) after all

They’re usually the same as tren. 4/g or so

19 years old
432 free test
Is there any point in me increasing test by a tiny amount (maybe to 6 or 700)?
Would it even be possible to go back to the amount my body produces or would I hate myself?

deca feels good brah, never get injured in the gym my guy

Masteron is 100% a meme compound. Look at it’s anabolic:androgenic ratio. It’s weaker than test, lol. By as much as 75% in one regard and 40% in another. 100mg of tren would be like a gram of masteron in terms of the overall anabolic profile

Why risk damaging yourself to go from low-med normal --> med-high normal.
You will have the potential of a natural in the gym with the same (arguably negligible) damage to your endocrine system.

second this blends are PIP destruction

If you're going to run the risk of AAS and all that it includes you would want results which match or exceed the risk you took. Going up very slightly in natty levels doesn't seem like it's a reward worthy of the risk incurred.

Only thing is blasting at my age is out of the question, right?
Like, that's a big enormous no no.

After taking steroids, is the endocrine system guaranteed to be damaged? I know you said it was arguably negligible but how eexactly does that part work?
Like, surely the body will eventually revert to the original test production levels, right?

if you are so low test that you want to intervene why would you care about damaging your already fucked up testosterone production?

I think the reason is because my life isn't incredibly terrible right now.
I have things going for me, I get girls etc. so I wouldn't really want to mess that up. With that in mind, if I could have an edge with minimal risk that'd be great, too.
I reckon I'll blast in the future anyways, just wanted to see if there's anything I can do at this tender young age of development.

>I know you said it was arguably negligible but how eexactly does that part work?
>Like, surely the body will eventually revert to the original test production levels, right?

Who knows, more than likely you will always be fertile (as is or with the use of hmg/hcg). Will you ever produce test like you did before AAS depends on the amount and period you used them for. Bottom line is every ex bodybuilder is on trt.

It's not out of the question. You can do but you run some additional risks. Like you'll stop growing in height and you may damage your still developing endo system for life. But in saying that, males still undergo development until like 25.

Plenty of people have done steroids at your age and younger. Reddit will scream at you saying you need to be 30 and have been lifting for 15 years minimum but it's up to you and what personal risks you want to take on board.

Do you know of any studies regarding damaging amounts of AAS relative to amount/period of use?

That's the scary part. The personal risks vary so much.
I've always had the idea of doing "just one cycle" to hit natty peak and call it quits but evidently I'm far too ignorant given that I might damage my endocrine system. I wasn't planning on doing any of this at 19 given I'm too stupid to even get a source, but it's good to start collecting info early.

No I do not but some are available. Take anything you read with a grain of salt, the variability in AAS studies is very high

btw you probably wont want to ever train again after you one cycle so you wont maintain your natural limit. Not being negative just realistic

>I've always had the idea of doing "just one cycle" to hit natty peak and call it quits but evidently I'm far too ignorant given that I might damage my endocrine system
Wow you're moron. Stay away from this thread if you dont know what you're talking about.
Read the reddit wiki you fuckwit

kthx, I'll give it a go.

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Y’all ever had a girlfriend who had a rough past? Like bad anxiety, abused, or self harmed in the past?

I’m feeling nostalgic about the trips.

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Got my hgh prescription today so I can fill it tomorrow, 5iu a day for the next few months. This is the first thing I'm a bit nervous about putting in my body. I can handle lots of sides that go away but the thought of getting HGH gut is making me have second thoughts.

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How the fuck did you get a script for 5iu a day? Jesus Christ I’m jealous as fuck

From the same doctor that gives me 400mg/week test e and all the thyroid hormone I can tolerate..as long as I check in with him and stay monitored he's got no problems prescribing things that are covered under my drug benefits.

was meant for Trensomnia has me retarded at the moment.

>wake up tired
>feel small af
>look in the mirror
>look small af
>thinking about suicide

Yes, it will always affect your relationship

run away, she will be crazy in bed but nothing good will come of dating someone like that trust me

Run from anxiety. If they have a legit anxiety disorder and have made zero attempts to seek help like seeing someone to teach them cognitive behavioral therapy then her anxiety is going to completely fuck you guys up. You didn't call? Cheating. You show up late? Cheating. Lock your phone? Cheating. The inverse to that is because she's so insecure she's more likely to cheat because when you aren't around giving her validation she's going to be looking for it elsewhere.. this goes the same for guys. Don't date someone who is not attempting to fix their anxiety with professional help, all you're doing is enabling them in the short term and then when things fall apart her long term outlook will be worse because you reinforced negative bullshit in her mind.

>she will be crazy in bed
This. Normal woman will never like that crazy shit like anal, chocking, bsdm, slapping, stabbing, deepthroat ertc

Sounds more like being paranoid

Its all temporary.
You'll be big again in no time.

that sounds like normie GAD shit, if we are talking ptsd and all the other fun stuff that comes along with it hes in for a real ride, dont do it

Clen when natty

Retarded or not?

You know what? Zyzz > you

Not really

>sounds more like being paranoid

Sir, paranoia is the thoughts that come from anxiety and depression. No, it doesn't sound like paranoia it is paranoia. That's anxiety. If you're talking hardcore delusional paranoia as if people are out to get you that's psychotic paranoia, little different. My field is mental health and addictions and I deal with the latter all the time. Ask me about one of my residents getting stuck in the crawlspace of the building this week to avoid the assassins we just hired.

Hey that was cute

why am i not cute anymore

yeah i got dumped twice by her

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Are you still cruising? For how long? I fucking hate it.

I will probably need to go off masteron as well to let my lipids recover

That doesn't work anymore. Try something different

I have a constant fear of getting small. Is that also anxiety?

>weeb
>being dumped
Sounds about right

Stop being a sexual degenerate

>faggot
>on Jow Forums
Sounds about right

No but constant fear of zyzz is anxiety and jealousy

Yes, that's the anxiety that stems from body dysmorphic disorder. That's our common tie in /fraud/. We all got that shit in spades.

I'll cruise till shredded. Fat is dropping incredibly fast so I want to give it a shot, maybe use clen for the final stage.

No one cares

But i really don't care about that. There a lot of other bodybuilders i am jelly of, but he looks like someone that's doing some zumba lessons

Do you also treat people with that?

Only test right? 250?

What is you current diet? Cardio?

He asked you fuck.

200mg test cruise.
Reduced cals, high protein.
20 mins of heavy biking a day.

>Could Cucksader be /ourguy?

You seem much more reasonable lately, what has changed?

>biking
Its called cycling you mongoloid

I've been spending a lot more time inside and that reduces my anxiety but increases depression.

>reasonable
basically for the entire last thread I talked about wanting a girl to cut me and lick up my blood

He's doing ERT

I'll let you hold my hand for money when I'm finished.

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I also bike to work. That;s the pro for living here. Free cardio

I am also thinking about doing eca or albuterol. Clen seems to be too harsh for you heart.

Yeah I guess somewhat it is ptsd not that clingy anxiety. I was reading about a guy who’s girl had night terrors and eventually she broke down and told him about her ex who raped her and allowed his friends to rape her, broke her arm, nose, punched 4 teeth out of her mouth, and tons of other horrid shit.

I don’t even know what I’d do if I found out an ex treated a current girlfriend or shit any girl I even knew like that.

I think you should try bleach instead

At what stage of your cut would you take it?

When you're already pretty shredded?

I want to give eca another shot but I responded so poorly, felt like I was about to have a heart attack.

Clen isn't too bad.

No, do it at the start of your cut

Jeebuz you're a massive pussy

Next time you use it, break the capsule in half and eat a small meal before you take it.

I wouldn't even take that shit on empty stomach the first time and I weigh a lot more than you.

With body dysmorphia? No much like lots of other things we refer them to a specialist. About 90% of mental shit that isn't full blown psychosis like schizophrenia ends up receiving cognitive behavioral therapy. Shit works. Don't fix the car, fix the driver kinda deal.

We just shipped a guy off about a month ago to have electroconvulsive therapy performed and when he returned he was like a completely different person. It was fucking wild how much this dude changed seemingly overnight Motivated, no signs of depression at all. Calm as a hindu cow. No more fidgeting, no more reclusive behavior, no more laying in the bed all day dicking around on his phone. The guy had been basically a NEET for the last decade of his life and last I heard he's working for a landscaping company.

Yeah that seems like a better idea.

Thought I did my research and everyone recomends way higher doses on an empty stomach.

On tv there was a show about that and there was a guy who suffered from this badly. They just told him just lift less bro and lay of the steroids then you will be fine. HOW THE FUCK YOU WILL BE FINE. Just be skinny and fat like everyone else

Doing gods work

Even for the first time? it's always better to start low to see how you respond.

Yeah that's about the same as telling a depressed person to just cheer up. Sure you can medicate but the best treatment I've seen in my clients has been cognitive behavioral therapy. If a guy suffers from body dysmorphia explain to him what the fuck body dysmorphia is, what the thoughts are like. What the view is. Have them recognize these thoughts and be aware of them. I think that's why we seem to have such a huge prevalence of mental health issues in our society these days. We're no longer analytical of our own thoughts because our minds are allowed to basically run on auto-pilot. Mental downtime? We don't have it. We use phones, PCs, we don't reflect anymore. People don't know how to objectively look at their own emotions. I mean yes there's exceptions like full blown psychosis when you completely break from reality but those aren't things you can use CBT for.

>Even for the first time?
The internet seems to be filled with massive eca doses for first timers.
I actually tried to start small kek.