Are there any of you out there? Can you tell us your secrets. I can't stay here much longer, the weight is killing me. There's a creaking in my chest that I need to get out. I need to get out of here or I'm going to do something bad. Normies, show me the way.
Robots who bloomed into Normies
Just fucking try. Im amazed at how 20 year olds give up so quickly.
What's your definite of being a normalfag? You can be a seemingly normal person without being a full blown normalfaggot.
1. Be able to get into relationships
That's it.
23, I'll have you know.
Phenibut----will totally kill your social anxiety for a day and make you feel and talk like a normie. You can only use it once a week though, any more than that and you may be addicted to it.
It makes you really horny. So, I got really horny and went onto the dating site I wasn't having any luck on, and out of sheer horniness messages like 400 girls. Next thing I knew, got like 15-20 or so replies and a few dates lined up, lost my virginity. Most robots don't even try online dating and blame women for their loneliness, when they really never even tried talking to women in the past few months....
I've been there and come back. It's one big fucking meme. I know good guys who are basically a shell of there former selves, for what? A gf/wife with a body ruined by child birth who won't let you be a fraction of the guy you used to be, and also some snotty fucking kids who bleed you dry.
Fact of the matter is, is that the vast majority of men are less happy when they get into a relationship and have a family, people only want it because they are conditioned to.
Gamma turned Omega, here.
The opposite can happen with a little dedication.
Where's the best place to get it?
i want to believe this and am about 70% sure it's true
Sounds sick, better than this for sure.
Nootropics Depot or Liftmode, I trust Nootropics Depot more.
I didn't make it until I was 26. Now I'm married. It's a real good life. Just put effort into your self, try to not be so negative, not only to other people but most importantly, to yourself. There are things you'll miss about being single so try to appreciate what you already have while you have it.
Is your wife the first (and only) person you've been with? I'm not sure if I could live with that.
It is, trust me. I'm not a mgtow shiller or whatever, just a normie with experience.
You could get ultra lucky and get a great wife and have a good life, but even then when you have kids and stuff you will not be able to have time and money to do all the things you want. You are literally cucking yourself
The big problem is, is that people are conditioned into doing it, and even guys who resist end up getting sucked in because they are lonely as there buddies have disappeared.
Literally none of the guys I know are nowhere near as happy as they used to be before they got gfs and kids etc. I was one of the first and came out the other side, now when I am explaining to my friend who is splitting up from his wife it's like waking him up from a coma or something.
Nope. I just start blossoming at 26 and had a few girlfriends before.
Maybe there's hope after all. What did you do to make it?
I talk to people while out and about to try and build up conversational skills. I really listen to them and take interest in what they're saying. I brushed up on my hygiene/fashion/fitness. I made myself at least talk to every girl that seem cute and/or interesting and asked them out if that went well.
tried this and didn't feel anything. maybe ill give it a go tomorrow
What would I miss in being single?
Keep trying, eventually, there will be someone for you. Some females you may not even notice are the ones who would gladly have you, you just have to look carefully.
She's cute. I wish she was mine.
I don't think any woman can accept the fact I make 5820,24 USD every month just drawing toodlercon and other shit for other social outcasts like myself. I just had the luck of start drawing out of nowhere and now I make a living drawing babies raping their moms, dogs, dads, aunts and even ghosts and rotten corpses.
I don't have a haircut since 2014, don't shave my beard since last Steam Winter sale and lost all hope of marry or even have a girlfriend went I had 25 yo and realize that my personality and way of life don't fit the normalfag society.
Hope is just a meaningless word when you live in the bottom of the abyss of anxiety, insecurity, paranoia and fear.
Honestly? I was tired of being useless, my social anxiety was holding me back. So I worked on it, and it took years of gradual change. Now I'm basically disassociated from anxiety or awkwardness.
Sometimes it feels strange to be so emotionless about things that used to destroy me, but now I'm much happier. I've adopted self control and calmness into my core lifestyle. If I can remain calm I can do anything.
I am 29 and diagnosed as schizoid and I have a successful career in sales (legitimately, not telemarketing). I'm never dated or been in a relationship, but I've never really wanted to, probably due to being schizoid. I have however banged a bunch of hookers. I'm a clean-cut regular-looking dude who people seem to think of as normal so not sure whether I count as a normie. I don't have any sperg hobbies or interests besides lurking on Jow Forums which I've been doing since I was a teen (I also lurk 420chan because I like to smoke drugs).
I was a volcel (for religious reasons) and kissless virgin until I turned 27. I'd wasted my late teens and early 20s orbiting my childhood best friend in the friendzone, and I was too stupid to realize she was using me like an emotional vampire for support and validation while leading me on. It was absolutely destructive for my self-esteem, and I only slowly came to terms with a full understanding of the situation as I began to realize she was pulling the same shit with at least 4 other guys. I cut her out of my life like a bag of bricks, and went into a severely depressed and isolated (near suicide on a number of occasions) phase for years. The worst part was that I seemed like a normie for most of it - I got a BS degree and had a good job (55k in a low CoL state), but inside I was completely worthless and self-hating. The fact that my job was (still is) mind-numbingly boring only made matters worse. I started traveling abroad once a year, but that only made it worse too - I'd have the emotional high of an adventure and would then return to the complete isolation and depression when I got back home. I think the only thing that kept me from becoming an hero was the fact that I couldn't take the thought of how my mom would react - even if she was sometimes completely unhelpful ('just pray more user' - gee thanks, might as well tell a guy with a broken car 'your car is broken; you should fix it' - true but entirely useless and redundant information), my fear of crushing her was my only lifeline to staying alive at times.
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Fait warning to all robots. You will want to do it again and the depression that comes with too much phenibut is near catastrophic. I've never been so close to suicide.
Consider taking Wellbutrin as prescribed.
>I just start blossoming at 26
So it's not too late for me at 26?
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Eventually I got so bad that I couldn't pretend to be a normie anymore - I showed up to a church Thanksgiving dinner dressed normally but looking like death. People started calling my mom asking if I was ok because I looked visibly insane. That started to legitimately scare my mom, and she finally gave me the first useful piece of advice she'd ever done by suggesting I speak to a particular religious figure in our church community. He didn't give me any prayer advice or reading material - he just told me to find something to keep myself busy. I began writing a novel, and the sheer act of being productive and doing something I actually enjoyed and creating *something* was like a miracle (still working on it, and at this point it's a labor of love - I don't care if it only sells 10 copies or whatever when it's done, what matters is that I created it). I began actively online dating, and though I had some false starts my self-esteem started to rise. I dated a girl for several months and got kissed (it caught me totally by surprise and I stood there in shock while she started laughing), and even though it didn't last (she converted to Catholicism and became a super joyless puritan, and we broke up), I then dated a pretty cool chick from a local bible college. She was fun but not quite right for me - and with my finally functioning self esteem, I suddenly realized I didn't have to settle out of desperation - I could actually choose for myself. So I let her go and then a few months later discovered this absolutely wonderful Asian girl who fell for me like a ton of bricks, and I pretty quickly felt the same way. She's like a fantasy and sometimes I have a hard time believing I'm still in reality, but here we are and we're getting married next year. I'm still religious (much more so than I was) but my advice to my fellow robots isn't to wave a bible around or just yell 'find Jebus' - it's find something you want to create, even if it's seemingly stupid, and make it.
Xanax. Half bar before first date or any other nerve wracking social event will make you confident af. Trust me
I've tried a bunch of nootropics, and almost none did anything for me. I think some of the racetams helped my memory, but it's really hard to tell if I was just having a good couple days or not.
Not him, but it took until I was 27 to lose my virginity. I was with a girl I met on an anime forum for a while. It was great while it lasted, but then she decided she could probably do better. I don't know how I'll find another gf though.
>but then she decided she could probably do better.
Sorry to here that. I'm planning on just going to see an escort. I think i'd be less stressful that way.
I don't know if I'd be satisfied having sex without the personal connection though. It seems like it would be more like masturbation to me. I dunno though. I've only had sex with one woman.
Dude just change your home board to
Escorts can be fun but prepare for the soul crushing self loathing afterwards.
Who is she? I want to be original with her.
What do you dose at? I was going pretty high and not feeling much
I'll bet a million bucks that this shit will not even slightly break or cure my weirdness or my autism.
Start out with basics like namebrand clothes like Nike, and hygiene. Go on plenty of fish and try to get a decent pic of yourself, don't put much info in the 'about me' if anything, then message every girl who's online now. Eventually ask if they wanna hang out or chill, when they come over put on youtube and listen to music, maybe drink or smoke. Having women around, even as just aquaintances or fbw will help you become normie. Don't over think it, most chicks or boring as hell and just want a boyfriend. I was black pilled till I was 25, then realised it's not that hard. It's not great tho still have depression/anxiety but sex is nice sometimes. Also get a job even if it's shitty.
Only works if you believe.
I'm a NEET and objectively a long term loser but don't care. I don't feel shame when someone says I'm a parasite or anything else because I see them all as disconnected internet people. I don't have the ability to care about this or feel shame. I don't even feel I missed out on anything. What's wrong with me?
I could have done last year but I lost my job and fell back into NEETdom. I got pretty Jow Forums over the last 2 years and I was getting a lot of attention from normies at work for it.
Its all a meme really. All you need is good looks and some kind of apparent social advantage. Mine was I worked in a prestigious department. Look good and be good at something. Easy shit.
That mixed feeling when you hate normies but realise that you need to look up to them. :)
Shit guys ur all so young, i'm in my 30s and my face looks like zizek.
Other NEETs feel ashamed but I don't. What's wrong with me? I don't think I objectively missed out on anything.
I'm not really socially anxious per se. I just tend to get brain fog and trip over my words but I never have any real emotional anxiety. Would it work for me?
Cope
Orignalibaba
What if I'm ugly? There's no hope for me.
Find an ugly or fat chick and work your way up.
I understand its hypocritical but fucking an ugly person must be such a miserable experience as you attempt cram your flaccid cock in that dry floppy hole. It's like raping yourself.
By getting hobbies, becoming more interesting to talk to, getting fitter, landing a good job, and the most important part - reaching out to others, going to meetups, asking for cute cashier's number, etc.
Dating websites are horseshit, by the way. Only good for giving you the illusion of effort if you've never had a gf before.
>going to meetups, asking for cute cashier's number
Don't do this.
Gonna sound Stupid as all hell but here goes.
>be me
>Fucking KV
>never leave the house except for school
>One day meet this half russian kid
>he introduces me to metal
>get really into it
>a month later a show shows up
>We go there
>make out with a girl for the first time there
>Get a bj after
>2 weeks later i had to beat girls off me
all it takes is a bit of confidence and the right Friends to hang around with. im not even that great looking. i have a huge nose small ears Kinda fat And wear glasses doesnt mean i cant get laid twice a week with whole new girls.
I am a normie objectively speaking as in I have a job, friends and roommates and have absolutely no social anxiety. But just a couple years ago I had dropped out of college and couldn't talk to anyone, didn't have any motivation to do anything other than sleep and shitpost here. I know I'm still far from being "normal" but that doesn't bother me, or my friends.
If you want advice, basically always try to do something, however small to improve yourself. Those small things really start to add up. Also, completely forget about actively searching for a girlfriend, it's absolutely soul crushing. It'll happen naturally when you are ready.
>make out with a girl for the first time there
How did this happen.
>im not even that great looking
Prove it.
Beautiful girlfriend OP. Is that really you?
For me it's the matter of putting all my bullshit aside and actually trying to be a normal person. Good thing is, you can solve your problems and feel happier this way, bad thing is, the stress still accumulates and sometimes you just want to be alone and miserable for a day or so.
If you have friends IRL, go outside, get to know new people through whatever community (not counting sex fetish themed ones). If you don't, find an activity that requires people to be together in the same room talking to each other.
"Being yourself" is two-sided coin. Robots think that being yourself means showing all your internal garbage, including "tfw no gf" and overall misery. What people want to see is you being happy around them. If you're having a hard time doing that, fix your shit however you can and maybe hang out with someine else, if the people around you are the problem.
If you actually want gf, just fucking date and talk and talk and date until you get there. Women want sex and cuddles and stability and all that shit just like men. Treat them like normal human beings IF they deserve it like you would do with a man. It doesn't mean you will 100% succeed, it just means that you will lower your chances to fuck up significantly. Read about red flags, pickup and psychoanalysis, it's all there, even if it is mixed with treating people like livestock.
are you married/in a relationships now? are your friends?
Man, I'm definitely in the autism spectrum, in some areas, like talking to other people and girls, i'm fine and even out going. But put me in the driver's seat, try having sex, try playing some sports or online game with other people, and I completely freeze. Last year I started dating a legitimately 9/10 girl, and she really liked me, wanted to have something serious with me, but i was so freaked out about having a serious relationship that I ruined it. The two times that she slept with me I didn't even try to hve sex with her because I knew I wouldn't be able to get and maintain an erection. Depression hit pretty hard after that and I started having suicidal thoughts, but, as they say, what doesn't kill you make you stronger. Told my family I was having a severe depressive episode, started going to a psychiatrist, gym, driving more and having online dates with girls outside my social group, so in case anything goes wary no one else will know. I am currently 22, gonna ride this thing without looking back.
No it's my former oneitis...
>completely forget about actively searching for a girlfriend, it's absolutely soul crushing. It'll happen naturally when you are ready.
But people always tell me that they aren't going to just fall into my lap.
What if it's not happiness I'm looking for, but fulfillment?
This. Meaning is rock solid and eternal, happiness fleeting and fickle.
I loved her so much. Look how beautiful she is. It all came to nothing. I've come to nothing. Why did I ever think it was possible? She's so far above me. She raised me up just by being herself, just by caring for me. I'm done. Look what I've become now. I'm done.
honestly i don't think anyone "bloomed" into one. If someone did he was probably normal enough to begin with.
"Oh yea, i changed but having a girlfriend and normal friends who are not robots either, and stuff like that, which actually doesn't even make me one". I mean obviously there are varying levels, but say being a bit awkward before age 20, than getting a girlfriend i wouldn't say thats blooming, thats normal.
i don't think you can be a robot and normal at the same time.
tfw you are a KV and a massive Weeaboo ... Suicide is always a option my brothers
So I'm never gonna make it then? I feel like I am mostly a normie besides my inability to find a girl who is attracted to me and my lethal indolence. Oh and my difficulty in speaking in coherent full sentences. These are the things that are killing me.
>be me 7 years ago
>czech guy, good grades, good social life
>constantly ego boosted in a family of black sheep
>interests and talent all over the place, never fully commit
>always confident that i will make it in life even though i had no clue what do i even want
>finished hs and went full neet on a gap year
>made some money gambling
>figured that i wanna get on some top anglo uni
>start studying sats and shiet
>4 months into that it finally hits me that i got caught up in brainless rat race for prestige
>drop out of the programme even though it'll be a complete loss of money and time
>act up on my dreams from youth
>go programming and try to start my own company and develop a social website
>fail
>wanted to be an actor, go for it
>fail
>always wanted to be a director too
>fail
>spend some time countryside at my family's
>one day run into some old fart with a mosin walking down the street
>im also into guns so i struck up a conversation with him
>turns out that he's a vet soldier and invites me over to show his guns/revolvers/knives
>we hit it off and i visit him frequently, half the time reading books at my family's, half the time at his place
>he shows me how to build desks, chairs, make ammo, clean rifles, how to cook mediterranean cuisine
>still kind of autistic and scared to ask him what does he think i should do now
>feel upbeat one day and finally ask him and he basically says to do something that i'll enjoy and won't be able to fail at even if its hard work
you know you don't have to have kids right?
>my last passions left were writing, music and only thing i'd have enjoyed studying would be medicine and i thought that i could even implement med knowledge into writing on top of it
>get my shit together and rewrite tests one more time to get decent enough med school scores
>barely make it and get on it
>obviously get murdered at start, but i barely pull through
>have more and more free time as it mellows down the middle
>start writing my own fiction novels
>frequent shooting club where im quite good with rifles
>start a band where we just cover blues/jazz/rock we all agree are fun like blue turk by alice cooper or i talk to the wind by king crimson, she brings the rain by can or biding my time by pink floyd
>do some acting in a nearby theatre
>find a gf on internet after 3 years of fruitless conversation with variety of women
>also into same type of writing style (basically overly complicated on world building, keikaku wars or some kind of journey paired with psychology no matter what genre we do)
>she's a 5/10, but we really enjoy spending time together and she's the best conversationalist i ever met so its just endless fun for me around her
>she tries her hand at instruments and acting and picks it up as well
>im a massive misanthrope to be honest so she's the only person i tolerate and i just spend all my free time with her in her anti AT field just shut off in our own 2 person world, a small comfy apartment
>none of the writing got published so far, but who cares
I was a robot a year and a half ago and didnt care how I looked. Friends and others noticed my weight loss and that I look qt because I started dressing better and changed my way of thinking and how I spoke to people. Turned into the "funny guy" then I went out and got a wagie job and made friends with coworkers, never hit on any of them or anything was just nice to them and made them laugh now they invite me out a lot and one of my qt coworkers told me she wanted to fuck and now we're together. Friends also like to hang out with mr more so they invite me to hang out often now.
Should add that I was a 20 year old KHV up until 2 weeks ago
well but then thats it, if thats all your problems then i suppose you can try that work out, eat healthy things if you didn't already and not being that lazy.
>bald
Please don't reproduce, your sons will hate you
Good luck, worldbuilding user
Join the armed forces..........
Origg
I was a robot until 19, had a gf for 4 months, thought I was a normie then she dumped me for chad, turns out I just lucked into getting an autistic girl who found my retard quirks relatable or something. so no gf since (am now 22).
I dont even want stacie I just want another autistic self harming gf to play lego games with or im going to fucking kill myself by christmas
>Can you tell us your secrets?
yes by going mgtow. I was getting female attention like crazy and I made women compete for my attention. before mgtow I was a fat loser but then I discover mgtow. mgtow help me lose weight and improve every aspect of my life. also I am making good money and my life couldn't be better.
i lost weight by working out and dieting when i was around 17 til like 19. then i got a job at a clothing store and learned how to dress better and how to socialize through interacting with customers and coworkers. i always had friends but no luck with girls until i lost the weight and learned how to talk to them, those two periods of my life are probably the most to owe for my normiehood today
nah I have talked to married men and they are very stressed out. also I don't have to put up with shit like married men have to. I can just quit my job at anytime but married men don't have that luxury because they have a family to provide for.
Well i lost my v card at 21 and was a beta orbiter/nice guys fedora wearing guy for all of my high school. I dont think i count as robot but i am still proud of getting out of that crap.
If you want advice we should at least know more about you. There is no general solution to get out of that zone, its a case by case thing in my opinion.
That's not me, that's the guy who metaphysically cucked me.
Bull fucking shit. MGTOW
tfw balding, i want to bloom too but this shit makes me fuckin sad, what do robots?
Balding isn't a problem if you have an ok head for it, like that prick in the OP. My hair is thinning and I have a small pinhead.
i hear you, hair is thinning at the crown, not fully yet but noticeable, maybe bruce willis look its not that bad.
>the vast majority of men are less happy when they get into a relationship and have a family
Yeah, you know all those married men with families, always killing themselves around the holidays due to loneliness.
>Will never be a teenager having normal teenage fun
Why even bother?
The sweetest time of life, the time where we form our baseline in which confidence and self esteem can sprout. Wasted.
>You could get ultra lucky and get a great wife and have a good life, but even then when you have kids and stuff you will not be able to have time and money to do all the things you want. You are literally cucking yourself
Then don't have kids you fucking moron
well yea, the question would be.. are you fine with being a robot?
Cause ye, beside magic or whatever you cant really go back in time so it gonna stay that way. I mean ppl can change but, you wont change from one person to a completely different one after that. Even if you do change things deep down in you will stay either way. Guess thats that.
However if you are fine, you have a good home, money its not THAT bad.
If you can't find meaning on your own then you're not going to magically find it in other people.
Wow look at that normal looking fucker who bloomed into a normal fuck.
well getting a kid/marriage supposed to happen if you like each other that much, not being in an actually shitty relationship either of you are to weak to get out off. Sorry but this do no justice.
Its a good example, but not really that true. So say you are a robot doing basically this - work->go home->play/watch tv->eat/do some housework->repeat - but however you also do your hobbies when you have time beside work and all that.
Well first of all many hobbies require friends, and if you have good friends you can hang out with i wouldn't say you are that much of a robot anyway, and if you dont well.. then thinking oh well but marriage would suck wont help you. At least it depends, if someone would like a family telling them "oh hahaha, dont worry about it, it sucks" wont really help much.. ye you can try get used to being alone, but its not that easy,, actually its probably easier if you had a relationship before.
if you are a actual robot the chances of blooming into a normie are pretty much zero since you are too jaded and do not understand the value of small talk and quasi pointlessness of normies conversation.That is not to say that you can't live a life filled with content.
if you see this thread again can you go into more detail about salesmanship techniques like how do you charm normies into liking you and buying your shit?
naah, you can find meaning in other ppl, not the best way to give your life a meaning but you could be a slave for example as well at the worst. Anyway, i would even say that most ppl would basically get lost without others, as in his loved ones, friends, etc., just take away his friends,, well basically his complete social life and there you go lets see what he does now. Would be interesting.
Kill yourself you pathetic reddit reject.
Nope everything I said is true but you have to take mgtow in a positive way. Focus on yourself and improve yourself. Women will even want you more because you are ignoring them while at the same time being amazing
oh wait i bet its him being a psychopath and having no feelings, and he is just playing with ppl and manipulating them as he sees fit. He is basically.. A GOD!!! !!!!...
Really you can only manipulate ppl as much as they let you, or as stupid they are. Like making a bargain at the market, who is manipulating who there? Or is it just a mutual agreement? Eeeh, So ye i dont really think its because his schizoid super powers. It takes skill ye, but it depends who you have to sell it too. But as long as enough idiots are out there [buyers] it should be okay. Of course this was not said.. yet, but somehow i feel like that would be the answer, oh yee im so emotionally dead i dont care and i can sell way better than a ughh "normie" could..
Semi former robot here
>moved out of parents house at 19
>lived with relatives for a while
>got a job and saved money
>moved into a place with a roommate
>have a couple friends I guess
>turning 20 soon
>did this all in the span of 5 months
Am I a normie?