Come June 2018 I'll have been lifting for six (6) years (YEARS) non-stop and I have never been under 20% bodyfat, in-fact I have been around 20-25% my entire life. Even when I was doing cardio 3 hours a day ontop of lifting I still maintained it. My appetite just makes up for any extra activity I do so increasing more and more activity is pointless.
It's clear that lifting/cardio alone isn't enough to get my body composition lean.
What are some ways to fix this problem permanently?
>1. I don't want temporary fixes like counting calories/macros and weighing everything out on a kitchen scale >2. nor do I want to do autistic shit like intermittent fasting (I have a life).
What the fuck? Am I just fucked here? Even before I started lifting 6 years ago as a sedentary couch potato I was 20-25%, now 6 years of 100% consistent lifting & cardio and I'm still at the same bodyfat.
Yes you're "fucked" if you don't want to eat less and control your fat ass. Literally only takes some discipline to get there but no, muh appetite boohoo You either work to get there or you don't get there fuck off retard
Wyatt Cruz
So you've tried everything except not stuffing your face, tracking what you eat, and taking the slightest trace of accountability for your choices? Clearly those things are impossible, just give up. I can do nothing for you, son.
Adrian Jenkins
I was the same, similar time spent lifting too.
Around the beginning of the year I had a depressive spree where I hardly ate anything for a few weeks and I went from around 20 to 15% bodyfat after I was over it.
After that I realised how easy it is to lose weight just by not eating so much and now I'm on my way to 10%~ just by watching diet and doing an hour of cardio every other day (+lifting ofc).
Alexander Robinson
I've got a solution for you user. There's multiple memes you can follow, but I recommend you try the carnivore meme for two months. Buy up a bunch of ground beef with at least 20% fat. When you're at home, that's all you eat. Don't eat it raw--that's just autistic.
In that span of time your cravings will die off and you'll only be hungry when you actually are. You'll lose weight and have more energy than ever before. And yes, S O Y shills will be BTFO'd.
Landon Watson
>what are some ways to fix this problem? You could do X and Y to solve your problem. >except for X and Y! well, then Z >I don't want to do Z fuck off. go count your calories fucking faggot
Julian Smith
Downboated!
My problem is that anytime I get better in the gym or with my cardio, that my HUNGER INCREASES, it doesn't DECREASE. Therefore it makes it HARDER to EAT LESS when I am active.
I was 155lbs 25% bodyfat before lifting.
Now I am 200lbs 25% bodyfat after almost 6 years lifting.
So I gained a shit load of muscle and performance (2/3/4/5 for 5), but my appetite is just still high.
I started doing cardio everyday for 1 hour per day the last 2 months and I have actually gained fat because the increased activity just increased my appetite.
This is fucking retarded. Most people I know LOSE THEIR APPETITE when they lift or do cardio, MINE GOES FUCKING INSANE. YES, I have read you guys talk about how cardio/lifting "blunts" your appetite, but for me that is the fucking opposite.
Jackson Reyes
>"hurr im hungry!" stop eating you fat faggot, there is nothing else to say
Parker Edwards
>doesn't want to do to IF because "I have a life"
IF literally saves you time. Keep making excuses you fat sack of shit.
Robert Bailey
So you admit you are still eating tons of food.
lol
Caleb Bell
THIS IS THE PROBLEM.
I CAN STARVE MYSELF IF I WANT.
The problem is that when I go into a calorie deficit, my body is autistically screeching at me non-stop. I CANNOT SLEEP WHEN I ENTER A CALORIE DEFICIT.
It is like a domino effect.
>Calorie deficit >Can't sleep >Training goes to shit >Manage to sleep the next day >Wake up heart racing extremely hungry >Eat a few thousand calories >Feel good again >Training is good again >Sleeping is good again >Disregard the cut because I don't want to go through that shit
I probably have some kind of disease my doctors haven't picked up. Blood tests came back good, brain MRI came back good. I can't think of anything that can cause this.
Matthew Moore
Yes I am not denying I eat a shit load of calories.
I am just eating until I am no longer hungry. I am not sitting there over-eating getting bloated or anything.
I just finished an upper body session and I consumed 1k calories within a few minutes and I could easily consume another 1k calories in a few more minutes, not bloated at all, still hungry.
Christopher Powell
Master your impulses to eat or overeat. Hunger is just a state of mind, have you ever tried to deliberately not eat when hungry? If you haven't, I can 100% guarantee you that hunger doesn't last indefinitely. When you get hunger pangs, that's when your hunger peaks- afterwards you will stop feeling hungry. Do this for 3 days and you'll will begin to also not feel weak.
Doing this will not only limit how much you eat, but help promote natural weight loss by propagating fat cells to become less resistant to hormones that's utilize fat cells for energy
Justin Edwards
Yes my hunger increases if I workout too no shit. You burn energy so your body wants you to eat more to make up for the spent energy. If you workout you CAN eat more because you've also spent calories but you NEED to be at a deficit to lose weight. There is no other way to lose fat and you know it. 25% BF at 200lbs -> 50 lbs fat. You're just fat not muscular.
Nobody I know who works out gets decreased appetite, because your body would never decrease appetite in a state where it needs to consume more.
Cardio alone is enough to get you lean. If you don't want to track your caloric intake because you are a retard, I suggest you either suck cock for an entire day or stop trying to rely on your natural appetite and just start eating less and less.
You aren't 2/3/4/5 for reps, because only people who know what they are doing get those numbers and you clearly don't. You don't even understand how to lose fat, you don't even understand how cardio works, let alone following a program that gets you to those lifts. Stop e-statting on a chinese basketweaving forum.
2/10 for making me reply
Jason Long
CAN you STOP posting LIKE THIS This is NOT REDDIT
Leo Rogers
You lack discipline.
Austin Torres
Try going on the ketogenic diet. What you describe is tell tale sign of spiked insulin levels due to carbs. Once you enter ketosis your body will become dependent on fat as it's primary energy source, including your stores fat cells.
Cooper Hernandez
I'm on my 4th day of not eating. Only had water and coffee since Sunday.
As the other user said, hunger is a state of mind. If you're too weak minded to overcome it then you'll remain fat. Your body is like a spoilt child, screaming out when it wants something because its been used to getting it your whole life. Losing weight isn't supposed to be easy and effortless, it takes a sustained conscious effort to not gorge til your satisfied. Nothing good comes without sacrifice friend.
Luis Taylor
>1. I don't want temporary fixes like counting calories/macros and weighing everything out on a kitchen scale >temporary fixes like counting calories/macros >temporary Not a fucking temporary fix, you moron Something you should do every day until you stop caring
Noah James
Not op here but I'd like to try keto I just have a problem that often in keto I see eggs used and I'm so allergic I will fucking choke to death if I swallow one. How to replace?
Kayden Peterson
replace eggs with so y and you're good to go.
Ryan Baker
No thanks, I want to lose fat and get muscle, not turn into a faggot. No seriously, any other alternatives? S 0 Y is probably expensive and I'm a europoor student
Sebastian Mitchell
Shaddap
Just don't eat eggs man, tf kind of question is that? There's plenty of other things you can eat. Personally I love to eat sour cream by the spoonful with a small block pepper jack cheese and any type of cold cut meat or deli. It's a killer combination and it's so filling
Austin Robinson
Wanted to add that it may not look like much when you're eating it, but less is more
Ethan Nelson
So just ignore eggs? Guess I might look more into it now. And yes I know things like cottage cheese are really filling and 'efficient' even in smaller amounts.
Austin Anderson
It's time for you to ascend and join the bloat ranks
Can you also show an example of what you eat in a normal day?
Cooper Ortiz
Fucking hell. How hard is it to not fucking eat.
Andrew Cook
Don't if you lift. I did keto for 6 weeks and lost about 10 weeks of lifting progress. I also stopped lifting during that time because I didn't have carbs to fuel heavy lifting, but my gf recently stopped lifting for 20 days recently and barely lost one workout worth of progress, so I don't think that's the only reason.
Parker Green
Do some fucking cardio idiot
Noah Nelson
Not currently lifting but was planning on starting again. If I go keto + cardio for fat loss is that okay?
Sebastian Foster
Just eat until you're content, not full.
Its how the japanese all stay lean.
Mason Adams
y u no say onions ???
Wyatt Anderson
Yeah. Keto makes dieting easier so it works well for fat loss. It just so happens to also be a gains goblin. Remember you still need to eat at a deficit though
Joseph Lee
It varries, I'm kind of lazy in that regard. But I will do quick math in my head and make sure I stay under 1200kcal an average day, and under 1800kcal on my alcohol drinking days. I feel like an ascetic monk for figuring out how to control what I consume and how much, but it's honestly not that big a deal.
Things you want to eat. >Avacado >Fatty meats >Cheese >Bit of nuts >Sunflower seeds (Russian kind where you have to work to get the seed out of the shell. The idea being it's a meticulous process so you'll fill up faster the slower you consume) >Sour cream >Coffee with butter in it >Vegetables with preferable carb to fiber ratio >Canned sprats >Home made chicken soup with bone marrow and fat chicken pieces >Chicken Caesar salad sans croutons (my favorite)
You can get creative if you want. Just be sure to not over eat. Be honest with yourself when you eat. Ask yourself whether or not you're still hungry after you eat a little, or whether or not you're now eating for pleasure or if you're just bored.
Jason Watson
>>Coffee with butter (or MCT oil) in it I hate this Tastes worse than a long black, but has calories.
Benjamin Collins
Literally just close the fridge and walk away
Leo Young
>>Coffee with butter in it Please stop with this dumb meme. Just drink your coffee black like a fucking adult.
Michael Ward
> thinks counting calories and macros is a "temporary" thing instead of a long-term lifestyle choice that demands dilligence and committment
Why? I actually like the intense cream flavor of it. And it fills you up too and has amazing added health benefits. Just because it's being marketed doesn't make it a meme
Nicholas Taylor
>I CANNOT SLEEP WHEN I ENTER A CALORIE DEFICIT. AS EVERYONE ELSE YOU FAT LAZY FAGGOT
im eating LITERALLY 1300 calories right now. I eat my first meal around 3pm and i go to bed with full stomach
