So I think my gf had a come-to-Jesus moment today, realizing that at 5'3" she weighs just over 200 lbs, while I weigh only 195 at 6'0". She seems to be concerned enough to want to do something, so I'm going to help her with her diet and exercise and take a firmer approach than I had been, since I think at this point she won't think I'm just being mean now that she's actually seen the "2" on the scale (she was about 185 when we started dating so it's not like I watched her fall off the horse over a long period, and she really doesn't look very heavy which I suppose is my own fault for not noticing more).
We are going to visit our families in a month, and I'd like to bring her back 10-20 lbs lighter so she can see the positive response from her folks. So, a few questions:
1) Is 20 lbs attainable in a month? I've literally never had to lose weight before so I have no idea. I looked it up online and it seems so, but I don't just want the canned "doctor" answer, I'd like some real life experience if possible. 2) Is it too much to ask of a beginner to do ~5 days a week of weights and/or cardio? 2-a-days aren't a big deal for me, would it be too much to ask that she walk the dog for 30 min or jog for 30 min in the morning, then work out with me for an hour in the evening? 3) If we make solid improvements to her diet and exercise, would it make sense to put her on a thermogenic for just this month so she can get a "head start" or does it have a negative effect on her metabolism once she goes off it?
These seem like newbie questions to me, but I've known how to get results for myself for years, and never have struggled with diet or exercise. But I've never had to help someone else, especially someone who has literally never exercised outside of high school volleyball. I'm going to put her on basically an easier version of my routine, but I was hoping maybe someone would have some experience with helping a female lose weight.
I'm in a very similar situation to you. My girl got to about 198 at 5'3 and was beginning to get really depressed. I've found that being overweight, especially if you're a young person can be extremely detrimental to almost every aspect of your life.
Only thing I can tell you is that my gf lost about 24 pounds (she's now 175ish) between early February and today. The key part of her weight loss was DIET. A lot of girls who are fat consume WAAAAAAAY too much sugar -- I'm talking over 100 grams of sugar a day. Try requesting that she maintain a paleo diet and limit her sugar consumption to under 30 g a day, and her carbs to under 100 g a day. Then, get her in the gym at least twice a week for some light cardio and weight lifting.
I don't think 20 lbs is obtainable in a month for a woman of her height. A much better goal would be about 6 to 8 pounds in a month. Try aiming for 20 pounds of weight loss by the end of Summer (late August).
Weight loss is primarily DIET. I'd say 80% diet / 20% activity level.
Just some more tips that worked for me:
Eat meals together to help reinforce each others diets. Allow cheat meals twice a week. Snack rarely. Get used to entering meals hungry and leaving them satisfied, but never stuffed. Snack on almonds, spiced chickpeas, carrots and hummus, occasional no-sugar added peanut butter spoon-fulls, and bits of dark chocolate bars. These things are amazingly good at suppressing your appetite for hours and are very low sugar.
If you have any questions, feel free to ask.
Jayden Gray
You're overcomplicating things.
Losing weight is VERY simple. Espescially for a fat person.
All you have to do is eat less, eat less often, and eat better.
Eat less means eat fewer calories and less calorie dense foods.
Eat less often means eat at designated times only. Breakfast, lunch, supper Or just lunch and supper Or just supper.
IF and Omad are a thing for a reason. They work. I dropped nearly 100 pounds in a year and kept it off for three with what I learned during that time.
There is NOTHING wrong with going hungry for a day or two as long as you keep hydrated and don't have any really bad medical issues.
As for eating better. You simply have to eat homecooked, or self prepared organic whole veg, fruit, nuts, berries and grassfed meats and animal byproducts.
If you can't get organic or grassfed then simply eating homecookd veg fruit mets etc etc will work.
Also, people tend to be ignorant of the fact that they drink a lot of calories. To your body, that "zero calorie" diet soda is a small meal. That frappuccino from the coffee dump? That shit is 1k calories at least. That will DESTROY a woman's calorie allowance for an entire day. See all liquids that aren't water, teas(green not juice that's called tea)and black coffee will be seen by your body as a snack or full meal.
Last but not least. You don't need a gym or some fancy ass workout routine to lose weight. You need to just sit and lay down as little as possible and go for 30 minute - 1hour a day walks every single day. Period.
Andrew Green
Damn there is so much good stuff here, thanks man!
Cameron Moore
You're right. I'm a milfag so I tend to think of "fat" differently than I should. I can run almost indefinitely and am moderately strong otherwise and I still feel like I'm fat because the Army reprogrammed my brain to retard setting.
But yeah I guess that answers another question which I didn't post. At her weight, would *any* improvement to diet and exercise get her going in the positive direction? Seems the answer is yes. I appreciate it.
Also, good point about the sugar; she's a barista. I've told her about the sugared beverages but she somehow is incapable of comprehending that 6 pumps of chocolate and 4 of hazelnut in a drink is bad, even though she's not stupid at all. She has a legitimate sugar addiction. I'm not sure if I'm qualified to fix that. Any ideas?
Kevin Morgan
20 lbs in a month is an unrealistic goal. Granted there are many variables including age, height, sex, and starting weight, but general rule of thumb is about 2.5 lbs per week.
10-12 pounds in a month is a much more reasonable goal.
Good to know, I appreciate it. I know her desired weight (with no real time limit, I'd like to see it in a year) would be 130-140. But I'm more concerned about aesthetic. If she's 150 but Jow Forums as hell, I'm good with that of course. She's also got amazing genetics with wide hips (skeletal structure, not a result of her being overweight) so if she was athletic I could live the thiccfit dream.
Connor King
Sauce on the pic.
Camden Morris
My brother took the photo, some chick he was going to college with a few years back. She was holding a burrito and I edited it into a fish lol.
Adrian Morgan
I dont get it, she has nothing to preserve or maintain. All she has to do is not eat.
I lost 30lbs in a month because all i did was rave and have a ton of sex. I had no time or money for food and it didnt even cross my mind.
These peoples desire is to lose fat, but is it really? They make every excuse not to lose weight. They get diet plans where they can eat 200g protein and carbs in a day and they still complain. I eat half of that meanwhile training at a near elite level and i rarely have an appetite or want to eat.
If your fat gf ate 1600 calories a day she would lose a pound of fat every 3 days. That 1600 is a fuck ton of food too. 200g protein, 2 fucking pounds of meat. Come on dude not hard
Lincoln Green
It's easy for you and me, I have zero problem increasing activity level or changing my diet. But I think she's got some sort of attachment or addiction to food. My aunt is severely obese and I asked the same question of why she doesn't simply eat less and move more. Apparently some trauma in her childhood made her seek comfort in food, which is extremely common in abused individuals if you have ever watched TV.
I know my gf was abused when she was younger, that's kind of why I'm not sure if I'm capable of getting her off the sugar myself. When I want to cut fat I simply stop eating junk and double my activity level. But it's like she either isn't aware that certain things contain sugar, or that "just one drink" can really be that bad, or she's emotionally attached to it. I'm not sure.
Carson Sanders
Make her count the amount of chews she makes for each bite taken. 40-60 chewings are optimal. Fatties have a problem with discipline and control. Does she gulp down her food and is she still hungry after finishing her plate? Then she should remain calm when eating and should count her chewing. Slow down diet might show good results, especially if she is a stress eater. Still let her do walks and eat healthier
Blake Miller
Pics
Nicholas Ross
Retard
Asher Lopez
I'm gonna need that burrito pic mate.
Sebastian Harris
Keto will have her lose roughly 10% of her mass in water weight alone in a month easily. The problem is that it's only water weight and she'll rebound hard when she eats carbs with your families. The upside is that it'll give her an immediate ego boost. Anything else besides fasting won't give a 20lb difference.
Isaac Hill
That's a thing I forgot to mention. She doesn't even seem to eat that much. For example, tonight we had salmon and rice; her choice, not mine. She ate a normal size portion. But she had a can of beer, and I'm sure she had a sugared coffee drink at work. If she's trying to lose weight, she probably needs to be in the 1000-1200 calorie range, and she almost certainly busted that due to those two beverages. But she thinks "one or two isn't that bad." I know that at her weight and height, one or two is literally all it takes to fuck her diet up, but I don't know how to get her to go cold turkey off the shit like I'm able to.
Along with the not eating much, I'm wondering if she is screwing her metabolism by eating too little and then really sealing the deal with sugared beverages.
Anthony Parker
Yeah I don't think the rebound would be good for her self esteem, and she blatantly doesn't have the self control to do keto. Hell, even I don't.
Hunter Thompson
I know an autistic dude who looks just like that chick.
Thomas Cooper
Damn man, I looked through my pics and can't find it. I think for some reason I deleted it once I made the edited pic, I have no idea why. Sorry bro
Asher Thompson
Sugar is sneaky. I went a few months without sugar and one day at a family party i had some drinks with soda. Next day what do you know, im doing groceries and had oreos in my basket.
You dont even realize it. You have to consider these situations and make the best of them. I simply removed the oreos from my groceries. That is how i fought off that abuser.
She is no better than the people who abused her as a kid, now she is abusing herself with this food. Shes subconsciously replicating what they did to her without their presence. She has to learn to stand her ground. When you get abused you need to get angry and thoughtful. You need to make choices that are fair for both, how she was treated must have been unfair and easily to argue.
Theres always a solution that is reasonable. Her decisions seem like they ended up leaving her defeated and out of control. She needs to learn to control herseld and her surroundings, which is not easy. But if she can lose some weight she can do better in life for sure
Matthew Lewis
Agreed on all points. And I also have the same experience with sugar; one at a party and I'm ordering it at a restaurant the next day, and so on. I'm wondering if saying exactly what you said (because it's 100% correct) would be enough to snap her into the right mindset or if she needs to hear it from a trainer or therapist instead of me. She tends to think of it as nagging when I say similar things.
Ian Peterson
I mean i guess you can show her. Its nothing personal ofcourse, im just sharing some of my experiences.
I have to go but ultimately the point isnt to cut out sugar forever. The point is to just get a grasp of what you want to happen and work towards it as hard as you can. If she can drop to like 130-140 lbs she will be very pleased and proud.
And then she can eat all the things she loves without hesitation but at least she knows she can always burn it off again.
Btw i mever thought id be into fitness my whole life. Never liked watching sports, never cared about diets and how i look.
But i ironically dived into this hobby and i love it. Theres so much good feelings to achieve, i hope you guys someday experience what i did.
Adam James
I guess id like to add that if losing weight is too streasful for her, then she should at least work on something like becoming stronger lifting weights. Seeing change is a good positive enforcer. She can eat and drink all her sugary things and kick ass in the gym then she will be on a good path sooner or later
Adrian Walker
if she can't comprehend that, she is very stupid
Benjamin Reed
Sugared coffee drink and beer have so many calories. But does she tell you wether they had donuts or cake at work? Does she snack?
Yeah, yeah I knew someone would say that. Start observing people at dining halls at universities or large companies. Take a look at the fatties and the really thin people and then tell me wether you see a correlation there between eating speed and weight.
Justin Perry
An interesting observation that raises another question: she doesn't look nearly as bad as the left pic despite being 4" shorter and the same weight. It's like she's "dense."
If she loses ~50-70 lbs, do you think she'll have significant loose skin or anything? Seems the "after" photo girl has some loose skin around the abdomen. I wonder if it could be mitigated by having more muscle in that area; I'm pretty sure most of these before and afters are just extreme dieting and cardio with no weightlifting because normies think you can look like a celebrity by just getting on a treadmill for 5 hours a day.
Idk im thin as fuck.but i inhale my food fast as i can. Prob didn't help that on a average day i burn about 6k cal
Leo Evans
6k Cal? What do you do? What is your height and weight? I am 155 cm (5'1), 55kg (121 lbs) - eating slow is the only way I feel full without gaining weight.
Zachary James
184 82 kg and I'm a rig pig, rotary gas exploration. Gear is heavy as fuck and we work 14 hour days
Matthew Edwards
No, a zero calorie soda isn't a "small meal" because it has ZERO CALORIES you special educational needs student.
Jacob White
This depends on her genes. You said she looks "dense" which could mean her skin genes are better than the woman on the pic aka she might suffer less skin problems if she loses weight.
Age is also detrimental, if you are in your 20s, should be fine.
Benjamin Diaz
>5'3 and over 200 lbs >185 wasnt a problem but now 200 is
The absolute state of modern roasties
Kevin Sullivan
20lbs is quite attainable in a month for a beginner. If she gets on a 500 calorie deficit (or more) diet and stays consistent then she will likely lose 15 - 25lbs the first month. It will slow up after that and probably end up around 5lbs a month following that. But still, definitely worth regardless.
Lincoln Gutierrez
Why are you people fucking these fat cunts
Christopher Baker
not him, but you are not only ignorant, but overwhelmingly confident in your stupidity. Your hormones don't know the difference between molecules of artificial sweetener and sugar. Even if it doesn't contain energy, fucking up your insulin, IGF, leptin, grelin, etc, isn't conducive to keeping a healthy bodyweight.
Jordan King
6k Cal is a legitimate amount then. Do you like the job? It sure keeps you fit
Aaron Sanders
But if he did he could trade her in for a thinner model.
Tits might not be as good though. But it's fine, he just needs to chop them off the first one and glue them onto the new one. Fwar, quad tits.
Carter Brown
Pussy feels the same if you close your eyes and ignore the moos.
Juan Stewart
>People are unironically in relationships with morbidly obese women Have some respect for yourselves you fucking pathetic losers. I don't give a shit about the "love matters more than looks" crap. If your girlfriend doesn't respect you enough to make herself presentable and look nice, but instead looks like a fucking pig that gets laughed at and pointed at wherever she goes, while you at the same time get laughed at and pitied for being stuck with a hideous swine, then she doesn't give a shit about you. If she did love you and care for you and wanted to make you feel like a king and like you are her everything she would take care of herself and her appearance. If you threatened to leave her she would probably say how she needs you and how she loves you, but not because she does but because she knows if you leave, finding another guy stupid enough to willingly fuck her and buy her things will be nearly impossible and that doing that will require effort which she CLEARLY does not want to put in. She stuffs her fucking face and neglects her body because "YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO LOVE ME FOR WHO I AM >:(((((", the fact that you don't find her physically attractive anymore doesn't matter to her, the fact that people are laughing behind your back doesn't matter to her, the fact that she's destroying her health doesn't matter to her.
Grow a pair and tell her to either get a hold of herself or leave her you fucking whipped bitch
Michael Sanders
Stop fucking her. It will kill two birds with one stone. 1) You will see if she'd ever cheat on you out of lack of sex. 2) If she is loyal and wants to have sex with you, she will drop that lard fast as fuck.
When I don't have sex with my gf for 2 days, she starts asking me if I still find her attractive, if there's anything wrong with her body or looks. Two weeks ago she dropped a few pounds out of curiosity to see if I prefer her slimmer. I told her that I don't give a fuck and she returned to her standard weight.
Also she started doing calisthenics and can almost do a pull up, because she wanted to have more hobbies in common with me. If your gf has no drive, then she'll probably lose interest fast when you won't be there to watch over that stuff.
Hudson Lewis
Just post a pic OP - doesn't have to be her. But someone of the same volume as she. Tell us a bit more about her. So we can evaluate whether she has any redeeming qualities that make up for her meekishness.
Can only agree. Have the feeling she wants to lose weight due to being attracted to some other dude.
OP how long have you been with her ? Were you a fattie once, when you got together with her?
Evan Stewart
This. If you do what she wants just because you're desperate for pussy, then you're already her slave.
Jace Kelly
I'm addicted to sugar man. Used to drink 2-4 cans of coke almost everyday. I still feel cravings but i swapped to zero sugar and now I'm just on water. Weaning yourself off is the best option.
Best I can say is, if there are no decent low calorie options available (there fucking are, btw) then cold turkey. If she wants coffee, long or short black no sugar.
Reigning in a sugar addiction, especially for a woman is hard
Andrew Smith
what do you mean keep it off are you fat again? also your general advice is shit
Asher Wilson
break up with her, Is she can't keep her body in order how's she gonna keep a family in order? It'll only get worse
This chick sounds like me, similar height, and I was about 230 at my heaviest. I suggest she download myfitnesspal on her phone and start tracking her calories. Don't worry about Marcos right now, just have her track what she's currently eating to get an idea of what her diet is like, how much sugar, carbs, calories etc. Just for a few days of her "normal" eating habits, then switch it to have her goal be 1200-1300 kcal. She'll start reading labels and making better decisions on her own. It's best that you don't just tell her what to eat and when, but let her learn on her own. It's the only way to enforce real lifestyle changes and promote actual nutritional knowledge. As for exercise, as long as she's moving and doing something She'll stick with, it's all good, but since we're on Jow Forums I suggest she lifts, She'll look better once the weight is off if she does. Pic related- it's me at 230 and 130lbs. Height is 5' 3.5"
Lmao I thought my bitch was sort of chubby at 135 at 5’5”
Joseph Nelson
HEY FATTY! stop FUCKING eating until your fat FUCKING ass is lean! it's that simple, FUCK! the whole point of the snake juice is to keep you /fast/ing for longer periods of time. GET THAT FAT IN YA! >Snake Diet >sedentary results are 30 lbs a month
Josiah Russell
My random advice is not to gun for rapid loss. Most people can't do it, and even if they can, will hate it the entire time and learn nothing except how bad food made them feel good. She will probably relapse the moment any other stress enters her life.
A loss of 1-2 per week is sustainable and comfortable. At these rates, she just needs to eat clean and healthy, and can snack a bit. The lifestyle change will be much better for her in the long run. For 15 pounds, budget ten weeks. If she's looking to get herself down to a normal weight for her height, allow an entire year.
Julian Watson
this user knows what's up
Eli White
But anyone with a sense of willpower isn't going to just randomly binge on food after drinking a monster. Monsters are literally my breakfast during the work week
Dominic Rogers
Lmao go sustain yourself on diet soda then
Christopher Reed
>another dumb bitch counting calories
just quit cold turkey and fast on litesalt with water, ffs
Daniel Perez
This fucking new snake juice works amazingly.
Ian Brooks
You get less sugary versions of the coffee drinks to wean off. You don't get a whole creamy frappucino with syrup and whipped cream, that clocks in at over 500 calories. You stop ordering larges and you get smalls. You get your order with skim milk and you use stevia. You get the tall cold brew vanilla which is 100 calories, add a stevia or two if it's too bitter. You switch to buying refreshers, or shaken unsweet teas with half lemonades. All these options are around the 100 calorie mark.
The ideal is to get off of it completely but there is SO much wiggle room at starbucks to get something that still tastes good. I'm not as short as your girlfriend but I'm another basic white girl who loves her starbucks and I had to decide that I loved losing weight more. So I went less and when I did go, I experimented to find lower calorie alternatives.
Also, theres some decent advice in this thread and I want to say that 16/8 IF is what really helped me lose weight. You can essentially still eat like a fatty with IF.
Joshua Reed
>someone has success >dumb bitch wasn't successful in the way that I was/want them to be
While fasting is good for fast weight loss or losing the last of your stubborn fat, it doesn't teach you anything about long term lifestyle changes or nutrition. Reading labels and matching those numbers up with what you see on the scale and how you feel is what makes you actually learn something.
Jacob Collins
Posted earlier. Some girls get fat because they legitimately dgaf about appealing to their "manslave" and figure that the low-quality puss they throw his way (occasionally) will be enough to keep them in a committed relationship regardless of how rotund she gets. Key word is SOME. For the rest of them, they get fat because they develop a neurological dependency on sugar. I swear dude, almost every fat chick has a sugar addiction. I think the big key difference is that the girl who actually wants to lose weight will try to ask for help/will clearly state that she wants to lose weight but feels that she cant. In contrast, the cunt that's fat and doesn't really care will act very defensively when her weight is brought up or will blame her weight on external social factors, i.e. you. I happen to know both types. One is getting fatter by the year, the other lost 25 lb in three months. Can you guess which one is the cunt?
Awful idea. Sex is amazing at burning calories, diminishes appetite, has been proven to successfully rewire dopamine receptors from food to activity (much like regular exercise can) and improves heart health. For really fat people, sex play might be the only kind of activity that they actually enjoy enough to get off of their ass and start sweating. I've found that sex is excellent and providing an incentive to go to the gym (if you fall into the category of person who gets horny after exercise) and can be used to reward the person for making good choices routinely. Many fat people reward themselves with the dopamine spike of a doughnut, or a candy bar, or a soda. Sex provides a proxy for dopamine-dependent short-term stress relief that burns calories instead of consuming them.
Gabriel James
With high protein diet, low carb moderate fats and an hour of low intensity steady state cardio, she can. Find a park or trail you like. Park and walk 1.5m away from car, while having an intimate conversation. She won't notice it. Keep it at 2.5mph. Then walk back.
Do this every other day, and get her into doing some squats and you're golden
Anthony Parker
>she's a barrister Ha. Good luck, shedding fat offf her will be tougher than hitting 2/4/6/8. She'll probably dye her hair blue and start a fb group too. But she won't lose weight.
