Does lifting fix your heart?

Tfw it might have been a test and i told her its okay fuck you and now its over

5/10 is probably baiting you hoping to turn it into a relationship and has low self esteem to start with so essentially you are fucking with her emotions... not that I am advocating you care about any of them but honestly just be aware of what you are doing and you may as well do it to the hot ones as well as the uglys.

Kind of felt that way aswell, i got girls chasing me like crazy but ignore all of them, yet when i actually get a qt chasing me, i chase back and this happens

Fuck these hoes, can never get a chance to love one, but fuck Them? Yeah easy shit
Fuck this life

at least she went out with you and didnt straight up start ignoring you the moment you showed interest

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Dating is practice for divorce. Arranged marriage is the only true patrician way.

>(or if) she is ready for deep friendships (strong negative result)
This had me chuckling

>Jow Forums - Loser problems

this is about as accurate as it gets

1a is the positive result of a substantial risk. the decision of whether or not you should should take into account:

1. her character - not only her propensity to enter into a deep relationship but also the qualities she would show in that hypothetical relationship; how pleasant exactly the result would be if you succeeded is the prize
2. her 'odds' - the likelihood of her comment being affected (a lie or exaggeration), a delay tactic, a gentle rejection, etc. understand exactly why she spoke as she did, to learn how you can shape the future proceedings
and 3. failure - estimate how much pain exactly you would feel if you tried and failed, what sort it would be, how long it would last, if word of it would spread to others, etc.

then consider: the benefits of success versus the malefits of failure, considering the estimated odds of either. then compare those to the other options

depending on your emotional connection it may be better to be normal around her. if she has any affection for you (as you are) it will grow through continued contact, she will become more receptive rather than less; consider it possible that she has no romantic interest in you in any event, and that all waiting will be only pain for you
if it is too uncomfortable to wait and be around her in the meantime, or you do not think she cares for you, leave with a clear conscience

OP we're in a similar position.

>be me
>meet cutie on Tinder
>go on 1st date, coffee, everything goes smooth
>go on 2nd date, dinner and night out, we kiss at the end
>3rd date, goes to my house, we have sex and I lose my virginity
>after sex ask her what she wants in this whole thing
>"I didn't want something casual but also not something super serious"
>4th date, go to the beach
>in the beach, while talking about summer and our lives, she says "I'm staying here in town so when you're here we can do something together"
>5th date a week later (yesterday), go bowling at the arcade, then my house and have sex again
>usually texts me every day or every other day asking how I'm doing or about stuff she's doing or saw

I'm at a crossroads. I was falling hard for her but when she said she wasn't looking for something super serious, my heart sort of shut itself down and now I almost have no feelings of attachment to her. But I also want a gf and she's very sweet and cute, we got stuff in common, and the sex is great. How do I proceed, Jow Forums? Do I let myself get attached or just milk this for as long as I can?

Its summer, Im NOT going into summer with a girl that barely wants anything to do with me, i planned travelling and fucking thots but im aint doing that if there is a qt that want anything serious cuz fuck thots

What if i go no contact and see what she do? Like if she gonna keep texting me or just ignore me more?

This is more or less the same situation, holy fuck so similiar its crazy

Im still hurt honestly, this aint supposed to be like this

why would she start doing it after we talked so much and even played videogames together
am i just boring

In my experience it does. Unfortunately for me, I've got an injured elbow and can't lift right now and I'm dealing with my oneitis fucking me over out of fear and anxiety, the dumb bitch.

Hoping running will help with it.

that's what every girl says these days. for some reason they are very scared of the idea of committing. but if she really likes you you'll probably be the only dude she's fucking. it's just the way dating is in the 2010's now with dating apps and social media.

the trick is to give off the impression like you don't give a fuk. you can't bring up the idea of a relationship or commitment because as soon as you do it shows you are vulnerable and she will be turned off by it. IMO the girl has to initiate all talks of commitment and relationship.

it's a stupid game you have to play, but you gotta play it.

I wish you luck bro.

I'm going to take you guys' word and assume she's not fucking some other guy, plus act like I don't care.

perhaps.
if we grant that you cut off contact

1. she misses your company and contacts you of her own accord, in which case you can begin the friendship again, pretending that you were busy (this is dangerous, if she does care for you she thinks about your actions and intentions as much as you think about hers, she may pick up the perception that you being 'busy' means she is not important to you, and will start to cut herself off from you).
2. she does not miss your company and never contacts you, in which case you can cut apart with a light heart, knowing that you lost nothing

the greater part of unhappiness in relationships comes from thoughtlessness and misunderstanding. never a bad idea to examine things

I made it clear that id sacrifice my own time to be with her cuz Im busy atm, and everytime we met i had to cancel some important shit

But Im not going all desperate for a thot that isnt interested

Will try No contact, ty for help
And if she contacts me, gonna text her next Day, good idea?

addendum to this post; it is possible that she does care for you yet still does not contact (very common, almost ubiquitous, among women and quite common among men). in this case you are blameless. if she gives the impression that she does not want a relationship when in fact she does, and is pained because of it, she is pained only by her own mistake; though she will not perceive it that way and may even blame you.
her misjudgement and improperly taken, thoughtless, fearful, etc. actions do not concern you all the same. you would still be blameless in this situation.

She is a honest thot, knows what she wants and determined, so she shouldnt be shy texting me again

that depends on the way in which she contacts you and when.
in this particular situation her contacting you would probably mean that she misses your company, in which case it would be unwise to wait to respond. a few situations:
1. she texts you at night, possibly very late. in this case it is probable that she thought of you while she was alone, about to go to bed, in the shower, etc. and missed you. in this case it would be better to contact her perhaps not immediately, but sooner rather than later, because after a small while her anticipation for your response would turn to annoyance at a lack thereof. such that even after you responded she would be annoyed that you took so long, and would think you don't care.

2. she texts you in the middle of the day. this would likely mean that she wants to actively do something, go somewhere, etc. with you. it's more polite to answer quickly if she wants to make plans, but this sort of anticipation has a longer shelf life (so to speak) than the type mentioned previously. this could be a time to wait before sending a response, though not much longer than one third (eight hours) of a day.

with regards to contact always keep in mind her mood when she begins interacting; if she is alone at night (or alone any time) when she contacts you she likely feels in some way down; a lack of response would turn her against you as she would perceive it as an implied refusal or rebuke, even if you genuinely did not know that she tried for you.
contrariwise if she sends for you during the day, or when she is with friends, doing something, any time when she is supported and stronger in mood, she would be more likely to accept, possibly even enjoy a delay for your response, so long as it was affirmative.
even then do not take long.

to willy-nilly refuse to respond, to force them to wait a long time until, is a cheap trick used to chip at a woman's confidence, to seem better. not to be used for any girl you care about

wah me miss girl

Lets say i go no contact, she doesnt respond or contact me In any shape, she goes no contacts aswell
Do i say fuck this next one, or try asking her shit like "does this means its over?"

Ty btw lot of help

you do not want to do anything to hurt her, to turn her against you or to become discontented. you don't even want to allow her to hurt herself on you, which women will do often. if you are trying for a perfect result these are complex situations; difficult to reason through even if you know all the variables. you can be easily lost in the sub-branch of a sub-branch of an interaction.
always periodically return to the main point; her relationship with regards to you

your goal is (i presume) to enter into a long term relationship with this girl. all of your actions with regard to this point should tend towards producing positive end-emotions in her; even in teasing be sure that the end result vindicates the wait.

your secondary, backup goal (if she truly does not care for you) is to exit the situation with as little negative feelings as possible for you. the only action you have to take with regards to this is to cut off contact, but then you must know how to deal with the resulting feelings of that severance. primarily remember that if this ends poorly than the only thing you lost, that is the only thing you should mourn over, is the small part of your imagination in which you saw things not as they were, but as you wanted them to be. you lost a small piece of nothing.

Fuck lifting

Girl i really liked told me she thinks im a player and turned me down when i asked her out after a week of back and forth lifting.

And she still pursues some skinny nerd instead. Second time a girl i liked thought i was a player and turned me down, i give up on finding a sweet girl.

>tfw lifting means seeing the one who broke my heart

I can post the story, but I doubt anyone's interested.

>"does this means its over?"
lol definitely do this, GREAT idea.

But wont i look desperate? Im too aesthetic to be desperate

in that situation leave her be for sure. it will hurt yourself the least by far to cut off. if she does not care so much about you then she will forget you as you will in time forget her, and if she does care about you
1. you will likely never find out, so it will not matter to you in any event (you have at this point already moved on)
2. should it come back around to you, by her confronting you or a friend of hers, etc., your lack of contacting her could easily be chalked up to your thinking her not interested, in which case not contacting her would be a kind thing, because you tried to save her the trouble of a dragging half in/half out relationship purgatory. supposing she does care about you, and what you think, and how you act, she may or may not appreciate this as a kind gesture. should she ever attempt to speak to you and ask why you've been "avoiding" her (women like this word) to simply say that 'you didn't think she cared about you, therefore you didn't want to bother her'; this will put her in a situation where she shows her true feelings, either:
1. she does care about you, in this even she should appreciate or at least understand why you stopped contact with her and likely feel some small regret for acting as she did, resulting in a renewed association between you, with the possibility of a future relationship
2. she does not care for you (in this situation highly unlikely, for if she does not care for you she would not miss losing contact with you, and thus not confront you about a lack of talk) in this case you would give presumably your final farewells and end the issue for good. i feel as though i have not properly illustrated this situation with my words, i will write a follow up.

She is probably fucking 4 other dudes from tindr you faggot. Meeting girls in real life is the only way to not get a roast gf.

>flicking friend's cute sister in the face and bullying her
>she's playing along and kicking/slapping me and shit
>get a fucking boner and precum
>im not even thinking lewd thoughts
This is what being starved of physical contact and affection from a female for most of your life does to you.

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this poster is not me (first poster), he was sarcastic in any event

Again, if she does not contact you regarding your lack of communication, put her behind you. To still cling to the weak remaining threads of the association is harmful to yourself
and somewhat pitiful, probably in her eyes as well.

cont. from above (that you have cut off contact with her and she is hurt thereby)
The situation is as follows; you have ended all contact with this girl and she comes to you to ask why.
your response: "I thought you weren't interested, and I didn't want to force contact if you weren't interested"

now she must respond either:
1. I am interested
or
2. I am not interested
she may dress up the words but her main message and response will boil down to one of these two answers

Supposing she said (1) that she was interested, she should hopefully appreciate how you acted as kind, and now that she has professed interest your ties will begin again; with a mutual interest of some sort acknowledged by both parties. this could lead into a full relationship.

supposing she says (2) that she is not interested in you; your actions were still right (to not pester her if she was not interested in your attention) and then you can begin to fully cut off contact with a totally clear conscience and on friendly terms, because in the course of all these events you haven't done anything wrong; having acted not only in your own, but also in her best interests. you would be blameless.

if she asks you why you stopped contacting her you can use that to bring the whole situation to a close. a good result for you either way, with little pain.

remember always that the greater part of the trouble and pain in relationships is due to thoughtlessness and misunderstanding. remember this entire issue is borne out of her saying "I don't want anything serious"; her sending a vague message as to what her intentions are.

like women know what they want in the first place kek. YOU make the decision for her. Be worthy.

I've always fantasized about having forearms that are larger than my biceps. I think women would love it and call me pop eye. How can I achieve this? I don't want to destroy my wrists either.

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You went out with a girl for a day and you already have feels? Are you insecure, inexperienced or both?

Ty Got a life lesson right here
Where do i contact you for more advice pls?
Im serious give me something email

So I have a study date tomorrow with a cute girl I've barely talked to. I'm meeting her at her place at 5pm tomorrow.
How do I put a move on or how do I tell if she is interested in me?
I don't want to assume anything because I've been wrong in the past before.

Not the guy you replied to, but you seem experienced and I'd like your opinion on this.
What if both me and the girl cut contact (a little over a month ago) but:

>she acts like she doesn't see me when we're in the same room
>she looks at me when she thinks I can't see her
>she looks away when I look back
>she's still wearing the perfume I picked out for her
>she messaged me on wednesday as a reply to an IG story she had first seen hours ago (which means she went to the trouble of opening the thing again just to send the message)
>she left me on read after I replied

She posted an IG story a couple hours ago and I'm not even sure if I should see it. If she wants to act like a child, I can act like a child too. On the other hand I kinda want to message her and tell her than when she's done with these stupid games she can message me and we'll go for coffee and talk like grown ups. What do you think I should do? Keep ignoring her or try to reestablish contact?

Focus on leg work first. They're disproportional. Heavy pulls will work your forearms simultaneously.

all of the things I know are based in the knowledge given to me by very few books. I will link them to you freely.

Most comes from Seneca, and other Stoic philosophy. All I have read are as follows:
All works of Seneca:
en.wikisource.org/wiki/Author:Seneca
Letters:
en.wikisource.org/wiki/Moral_letters_to_Lucilius
Essay on the Shortness of Life:
en.wikisource.org/wiki/On_the_shortness_of_life
Essay on the Happy Life:
en.wikisource.org/wiki/Of_a_Happy_Life
Essay on Providence (not for everyone really, but I like it):
en.wikisource.org/wiki/Of_Providence
Essay on Mental Fortitude:
en.wikisource.org/wiki/On_the_Firmness_of_the_Wise_Man
Essay on Anger (this is quite long, full book length):
en.wikisource.org/wiki/Of_Anger
Essay on Peace of Mind:
en.wikisource.org/wiki/Of_Peace_of_Mind
About Aurelius and his Meditations:
en.wikisource.org/wiki/The_Thoughts_of_the_Emperor_Marcus_Aurelius_Antoninus
Epictetus (be highly careful if you choose to read Epictetus, there is no better teacher with regard to thinking clearly and dispassionately, but prone to make you cold if you take him wrongly):
en.wikisource.org/wiki/Author:Epictetus

I would not want to put any contact information on this forum; but I welcome you to learn everything that I know. Any or all of these books will help you learn how to think more clearly, and to tend to do right. It saves you an awful lot of trouble. I've read things besides these but nothing has had one tenth the impact as what I've listed above. Read what you can or what you will.

Seneca; Sixteenth Epistle: "It is clear to you, I know, Lucilius, that no one can lead a happy life without the pursuit of wisdom, and that the perfection of wisdom is what makes the happy life, although even the smallest beginnings of wisdom make life bearable."

it's a joke played on everyone in the world that wisdom is a thing for old people, only to be used in hindsight, when it's all been written down. it can be studied and it can be applied in daily life. everyone shares the same experiences and no situation is unique; learn freely from everything and everyone, and be diligent in using your knowledge to make your life as good as it can become.

holy fuck this is life changing dead seious

>tfw seeing a girl that for some reason is super interested in me
>no clue what it is I do that she likes
>might be from 'being myself' and being honest with her
>even though I figured that this was the best way to scare girls off
>haven't really discussed what we're looking for, just gone on dates and we both know we really like each other
>told friends about how she asked me about past relationships after she also said we haven't talked about deep stuff yet
>didn't really think anything of it at the time
>every friend I told said that she was trying to gauge what I was looking for
I don't understand, and when I asked what she meant she didn't clarify. Are they right? I didn't really expect this to get this far but we REALLY seem to like each other and I'm planning on cooking for her in a couple days when having her over.
Am I supposed to bring it up like after the date?

from what you say she seems to still harbor feelings for you. nonetheless the way she flips back and forth suggests she isn't really a good person at heart. likely not one worth talking to in the first place. generally the ones who play girlish games to that extent are concerned mostly with themselves, and make life difficult for the people they attach themselves to. it wouldn't be impossible to have an overall good time with her but the amount of effort put in (in terms of thought) would not be worth the reward (in terms of enjoyment)

if she ignored you after your response you could reasonably claim that you thought her not interested, as i said to the other above, giving you just cause for cutting her off. if she confronts you about it say just that, and she won't be able to blame you (fairly)
If she does blame you remember that she does this unfairly, and do not feel bad about it. only feel bad about the times when you did something wrong, and if you act out as above you'll have done nothing wrong.

in a nutshell, my advice is to not pursue. this girl seems to be trouble. at the moment you are not in the wrong.

dont even send her anything

thot are fucking insane, dont give them attention and they will suck you dick, give her attention and you done

always wait ATLEAST 1 hour then reply, sometimes wait more, and some days just ignore completely and text her next day saying you forgot to text her back

bitches are insane, thats what i learned from them honestly

every girl who told me that was lying

The fuck they mean ?

>ever having the idea of a relationship/marriage with a girl you just met
>it ever actually working out

you're so fucking stupid. You repulse girls because you are desperate as shit

That was a shit test just like “I have a bf”. CHAD wouldn’t care what a female says. You’re supposed to appear unfazed like you don’t give a shit.