Is David Laid mode achievable natty if you put in 5+ years of work and have excellent genetics?

Never said I do - I just want to know if it's possible with excellent genetics, regardless of whether or not I have them

I'm more implying that it's an irrelevant thought experiment. You likely don't have excellent genetics and your goal should be towards a 22-23 FFMI which is probably where you will end up.

If you idolize people who obviously use steroids to much, you'll probably be disappointed with your results and use as well. There's people on this board that think Arnold looked small...

My FFMI is 22.3 and I've been lifting for about 20 months (no, I won't post body)

There's no way of telling if you're actually at a 22 FFMI then. Most people get their body fat completely wrong and also use FFMI calculators that fucked up their math. This is one has it right:
sgb.neocities.org/stuff/fitness/ffmi.html

This is just under 20.8 FFMI. David has 30 pounds more muscle than this at the same height.

Forgot image.

By the way, FFMI really only works if you're below 10% body fat.

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nothing special about his back. achievable with good genetics

Laid is only around 195-200lbs lbs, not 215

No, he posted on Instagram that he was about to hit 210 and I'm assuming he is still lean. At 8% body fat, he has an FFMI of 24.3.

instagram.com/p/Bdbo_cXlJ-9/?hl=en&taken-by=davidlaid

That's something like 50-70 pounds of muscle since he started lifting.

Yeah, another post has him at 210.

Image is 22 FFMI at 6'.

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lol fuck off you dyel retard

Only with all natural lab grown hormones.

His shoulders scream anabolic use.

I'm pretty sure it is able to speak for itself.

People with these kind of doubts can't have ever lifted, right?

No

>natty
youtube.com/watch?v=RsKiX_RmaxY

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that's not laid, that's virtuvian

Of course he's big. He's fucking huge.
This place skews your view of reality so badly it's hilarious.
Cue the 1000 retards calling me retarded and how he's actually tiny or has bad insertions or frame or some other meme.

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if you have to ask, its not achievable at all for you

is that the meme kid? god damn roids are magic

That looks horrible. He has no sense of aesthetics.

No shit. I was showing that Laid has 30 pounds of muscle on 21-22 FFMI lifters. He is the walking version of 'bigger than you think'.

If they have, then they haven't been lifting long.
How long have you been working out consistently? I've been going for about 4 years. By no means do I consider myself the most dedicated or the most genetically gifted, but at this point I have a decent body and I believe that I have a good idea of what is realistic and what isn't. That body isn't natural by any stretch of the word.

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How do I unlock laid mode?

If a dude's veins are popping on muscles where blood is fighting against gravity to channel through, that's a pretty clear sign of that person being on steroids. Natty is no longer possible.

In your opening pic, his body fat is still fairly high and on his biceps as well as near his pelvic area, his veins are popping hard. You can see it in every single roided faggot; excessive venation.

Not much going on here though

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Here is a pic of him without lighting or angle tricks and probs a decent shoulder pump. He clearly has great genetics and insertions. This is def acheivable natty in 5-7 years

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Imagine thinking that you HAVE to roid for this. Jelly DYELs all over this thread.

My delts look like that without roids but that's for glorious Celt genes

Since this guy's been on social media for his whole life pretty much, is there a point at which we know he started using roids? Just to see what sort of effects it had.

I wonder what would be being this HOT. I mean.... not having to struggle with your fears when talking to a lady. There would not be the need to concentrate to find the words. No feeling of he abyss aproaching everytime you perceive she's getting bored or not paying attention.
I wonder what is not to check if she is to tall from distance. What would it be to just talk nosense and let the eyes do the job.

No homo.

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He's not that hot... oh wait nvm

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>5-7
kek

You can achieve the same physique if you put in the work

Honestly the only thing that says not natty is his shoulders.

You can't get shoulders like that. Even if he's natty he had freak shoulder genetics. He had good shoulders even if on gear

Everything else could be done but still really hard

why does this guy assume he has equal genetics to david?

Stats say hes 6"2 195. This is definitely possible natty. However theres just something about his delts that scream juice.

Is it possible to pay a reasonable price for the testing necessary to prove nattiness?

I ironically believe I can achieve David Laid mode or at least come very close.
5'9 146lbs and assuming I'm 11% bf I'm around an FFMI of 19.5
Considering how little I eat. I think once I get my diet on track I can make it in 2 or 3 years.

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Yeah. Bubble gut ftw

> one of the most aesthetic bodybuilders of today
> 'he has no sense of aesthetics'

this board, man

he looks great. fuck you

Im talking to the fucks on this board who dont try

fuaaark those quads

>mfw im barely even left picture
I got so far to go.

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Kai Greene has been lifting for 30 years, it can be don natty man

Just excellent genetics and dedication

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That pic is the natty limit

yep it can be achieved easily. laid isnt even that big.

This. They guy is absolutely massive. You have body dysphoria if you think otherwise

m8 we can see theres nothing excellent about them genetics

if u think he's natty ur out of ur mind

wtf is that haircut

Dude ur obliwues core and chest are horrendous lmao

Right, your FFMI is 19.5. David has an FFMI of over 24. It's the equivalent to you gaining 37 more pounds of muscle.

While I commend you for not fucking up for FFMI stat like nearly everyone does, you likely won't be able to get much beyond a 23 and may even reach your max potential at 22. Looks good though, keep lifting. There's only one way to find out.

wat

Looks off cycle

no, you can't be that big and shredded, either one or another

That boy looks like a huge faggot and self obsessed. He is a male roastie.

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5-7 years of natty training WITH his bone structure (wide clavicle, tiny pelvis) and genetics (stay lean) - Yup, very achievable

Most likely you don’t have either of those so probably not. He is just genetically blessed and knows how to take pics

Watch some of his videos where he's in motion, and not just standing there for a pic, under perfect lighting and with a pump.
His physique is very underwhelming, he's just extremely good at taking pictures, which honestly is impressive in itself.

Still has a pencil neck

Exactly

Cannot believe DYEL kids think he’s ROIDING

What he said.

He is massive, his chest is full as hell, his arms are thick and his Delts are practically the size of his head, all while he is lean as fuck.
If you think this is achievable natty just because there are "bad" pics of him, you're beyond delusional