I don't have any desire to follow what society might perceive as "improving oneself"...

>Go be Diogenes
hahha diogenes was cool
>Live on the street, piss on others, jerk off in public, and shit in a movie theater.
i've often thought about being diogenes but i have no real desire to change anything or do anything differently, also there are no movie theaters where i'm at

don't have any desire to go outside

most likely if i tried would instantly be arrested

why even continue to love at that point?

how old are you? when i was younger, i hated everyone. Hated interacting with people because i thought the were stupid. Have a very good sense of personal space, and when people would get in my space, it would really irk me. Like this onetime i was waiting behind a train. Waiting for it to pass, standing outside. Theres fucking miles of space. Some guy came and literally stood right infront of me. like 6 inches. Theres literally hundreds of square feet where this mouthbreather could of stood that wasnt right in my shit. So obvisouly, i said something. It upset the guy. I dont think he really did it on purpose, but none the less it bothered me. Another situation thats bothered me, is being on the bus, i like to stand near the door in the back. There is a ticket reader on both sides of the door of the bus. Im blocking one, but there is another one behind me, that is more easily accessible as you get on the bus. People still stick their fucking hands in my face. Politely, i would inform them there is another one behind me. Some people would say sorry, or ohhhh, some would get angry.

anyways. I hated people. Hating interacting with people. Was an angry dude. As ive gotten older ive got a better tempermemt. Maybe these people werent trying to piss me off, maybe they didnt even realize?

sorry to make this about me. But obviously OP, your life could be worse and you could have less. Not having internet would suck, right? You are living at home. Start working and improving the quality of your life and you might start appreciating what you have a bit more. Sounds like life isnt the greatest and you have become apathetic as a coping mechanism.

You still care then. You care more than you know.

OP you are bored. Your boredom set in during a stressful time/environment in your life that you may have overcame since then. Say the words "I am bored" and it will hit you like a train.

>why even continue to love at that point?
i don't even love
>how old are you?
i just turned 18
>when i was younger, i hated everyone. Hated interacting with people because i thought the were stupid
i used to but then i realized there's no real point in "hatred"

what were your reasons for your hatred?
> Have a very good sense of personal space, and when people would get in my space, it would really irk me
yes i do have a personal space, everyone has a personal space, but i don't care much if someone were to violate it

many times i would get hit but i just wouldn't even react or feel anything other than a numbness
>Some guy came and literally stood right infront of me. like 6 inches. Theres literally hundreds of square feet where this mouthbreather could of stood that wasnt right in my shit. So obvisouly, i said something. It upset the guy. I dont think he really did it on purpose, but none the less it bothered me

that was rude, what if he felt alone or just as scared as you was, i don't even pay attention to the outside world though
>on the bus, i like to stand near the door in the back
why did you care so much about your placement? was it because of your hatred for other people?
>There is a ticket reader on both sides of the door of the bus. Im blocking one, but there is another one behind me, that is more easily accessible as you get on the bus. People still stick their fucking hands in my face
hahah, what did you expect

people don't really care about what you care, they care about what they care, your priorities like your preference of placement doesn't matter to them
>Politely, i would inform them there is another one behind me. Some people would say sorry, or ohhhh, some would get angry.

this sounds more like it could be in a really bad old stand up line

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>sorry to make this about me
don't apologize for what you're not sorry for, when we do things we mean them, nobody is sorry about anything

for the record though it's fine and i don't care
> your life could be worse and you could have less

yes you are right, the only thing that could possibly be worse is that i go homeless and or that i die

but i don't care about living, i think if i went homeless i'd just lay down and die
>Not having internet would suck, right?
i've gone for months without internet, longest time i remember was 9 months, it sucks but i don't care, i just lay down and go insane
>You are living at home
i am not living, i am existing, this is not home, and this is not mine, but this is where a bed is where i'm allowed to sleep on yes
>Start working and improving the quality of your life
i don't have any desire to, i simply don't care, none of the "self-improvement" goals have any value in my eyes
>you might start appreciating what you have a bit more
no
>Sounds like life isnt the greatest
there is no such thing as life being the greatest
> you have become apathetic as a coping mechanism
perhaps, but i don't see how anyone including myself would know that

words terms cultures definitions and perceptions are extremely abstract and subjective concepts, what might be apathetic for one person could mean energetic for the other
>You still care then. You care more than you know.
maybe, i suppose everyone does?

but that doesn't mean i have any will or desire to do anything
>OP you are bored
indeed
>Your boredom set in during a stressful time/environment in your life that you may have overcame since then
yes you're right, but i never overcame anything, there is nothing to overcome, none of this is in my hands, but either way, i don't have any desire to do anything, it's not rewarding, there simply is no point
>Say the words "I am bored" and it will hit you like a train
i said it, i don't feel anything

when am i supposed to feel?

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I expected people to use the more easily accesible card reader. Than sticking their hands literally inches away from my face. Im saying this and other stupid things pissed me off when i was younger. placement had nothing to do with it.

anyways, there are things you dislike about yourself, your living situation that you dont feel in control of. so you dont care. You would care or start caring if you had more control over your life. Also at your age I was fat. It fucked up my self image and confidence. I told myself i didnt care or it didnt bother me. Put on a toughfront. It wasnt until i got in shape until i realized how much damage that did to me. im 28 and in relatively good shape. overweight and obese most of my life, still impacts me to this day.

There is no point in life, you've said it yourself. Aristotle said, "To pierceve is to suffer" you see everyone does the same thing, you go to school, you get a job, then get a house and kids. But why?
no one knows. Our whole lives we're just pretending not to notice that we don't know why, so instead we just focus on doing something to get are minds of it. Once you look around, and pierceve that everything that's always happened will repeat itself you stop seeing new things, life to you is just a big inconsistentcy. So just as every dream must end, no matter how long. Eventually, a reality that far surpasses what "incongruity" can express. So life is just a story woven between dreams, waiting for you to die. waiting for you to wake up.

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None of this in your hands?
Get a job while you are livinf rent free. Save up for a vehicle and drive yourself out of that shitty situation. Hey maybe give your parents a couple hundred bucks a month for rent while your at it. Im sure your parents would like that! Why dont you devolp healthy eating habits, stop drinking soda caise you were already crying about not having money to go to tjr store for drinks, atleast you briefly mentioned not having money for the store, not exactly crying.
i was obese from childhood til 18. Im now 28 and happy with my body and self for once. No one else fucking did that for me. because at 19 i moved out and did that for myself. You still got alot of living to do. And as much as you think you got the world figured out, you dont.

>I expected people to use the more easily accesible card reader. Than sticking their hands literally inches away from my face.

yeah, i'd say it's almost always a mistake to expect anything from anyone, you'd almost always get let down

i'd say our expectations come from our ideal situations and those are very cognitively biased and in the majority of cases simply unrealistic

maybe they were frustrated and angry, or neurotic or felt like punching you, or low IQ or spaced out or something

do you still expect things from people the way you used to?
> Im saying this and other stupid things pissed me off when i was younger.
nothing's really stupid, we can downplay things and compare them to others's perceptions as a measurable standard to then call them "petty" or "stupid", which is what usually happens once people get older, but we all still have our reasons to act the way we do, just like you did when you were younger
>placement had nothing to do with it.
i wasn't referring to your physical preference of placement, rather the reasoning behind what you did and how you felt, what you were thinking

but yeah i understand many times than not it's not the actual action of what we do that matters but our feelings and thoughts while we're doing them

i take it the reason you were infront of it, was for your hatred of other people and desire to isolate? what was going on up to that point, the buildup that led to it all on the bus
>anyways, there are things you dislike about yourself
i don't know, that's very broad and vague, doesn't everyone? what does it mean to dislike?

often times when we dislike certain things our opinion on the matter is influenced by us using a comparative social standard, but even that is very abstract and subjective, and as i said varies from one environment to the next
>your living situation that you dont feel in control of. so you dont care
i guess, but i don't care about "taking control" of it either

This is the end state of all NEETs.

The best thing that could happen to you would be for you to be thrown starving into the gutter. Then you'd either find it inside you to care abut getting something to eat, or you'd die.

Your problem is that your "good enough" threshold is low and your "lazy sack of shit" score is high. That situation can never resolve itself while other people are helping you maintain yourself at a level over your "good enough" threshold. Why would it?

>"Meh" says user - until he runs out of tendies.

>You would care or start caring if you had more control over your life
that would imply that i would care about having control, which i don't, i've had control before, but i didn't care either
>Also at your age I was fat
technically on the BMI scale i'm not overweight yet, but i do look fat, i don't care though
>It fucked up my self image and confidence
being fat hasn't affected my self image and confidence, i've stared people right in the eye while provoking them to make fun of me as best they could and felt nothing
>I told myself i didnt care or it didnt bother me
but you didn't actually believe in it?
>Put on a toughfront
that takes a lot of effort
>It wasnt until i got in shape until i realized how much damage that did to me
i've been in and gotten in shape

what kind of damage did it do?

how did it affect your self image and confidence specifically?

why did you care so much about what other people thought of you
>im 28 and in relatively good shape
good i guess, did you get in shape for yourself, or for other people?

if people didn't exist and you were the only human being that existed, would you still care what you looked like?
>overweight and obese most of my life, still impacts me to this day.
what kind of impact? positive or negative? you still have emotional pain from that day imapct or you're impressed and content with how much effort you put into your self image and whatnot and like looking at yourself in the mirror impact?

i find things like self image and whatnot very shallow and unrewarding, i don't care about other people, i don't even have any desire to form any relationship or anything, there is no point in doing something like intense workouts and dieting and such just to suit other people or delay the inevitable end of death, or the naive fending off of suffering

>I dont care about anything but secretly I want attention and pity but I'll act like I dont

>if people didn't exist and you were the only human being that existed, would you still care what you looked like?

If I was the last man on Earth, my physical condition would be of fairly paramount importance, because I have no one backing me up.

It would be much more urgent for me to be in good shape as Robinson Crusoe than as Annoying user.

And yet you're posting this here so obviously you aren't the totally empty vessel you say you are. For some reason you want theses things to be know which means you're not actually as ok with it as you'd like to convince yourself.

>There is no point in life, you've said it yourself.
i never said that

but i agree
> Aristotle said, "To pierceve is to suffer" you see everyone does the same thing, you go to school, you get a job, then get a house and kids. But why?
no one knows

well said, although modern psychology would say that it's because we have a tendency to conform
>Our whole lives we're just pretending not to notice that we don't know why, so instead we just focus on doing something to get are minds of it
yep
>Once you look around, and pierceve that everything that's always happened will repeat itself you stop seeing new things, life to you is just a big inconsistentcy
i wouldn't say i'd know what life is to me, but that's pretty accurate
>Eventually, a reality that far surpasses what "incongruity" can express
feels like that reality is now
>So life is just a story woven between dreams, waiting for you to die. waiting for you to wake up
i wouldn't use the word dreams, or that life would be waiting for us to do anything, or that any descriptor could be applied to life as we can't really explain it with abstract subjective concepts and ideas, i would say it simply *is*

dude you already stated if you lost weight you would need a skin reduction amd still habe gyno. i was obese. i didnt need any of that. You are decently heavy. Im not saying this to shame you, its a fucking fact. Your life has no control. I dont want control. Why dont you just try? you didn't ask to come to this world but you are your own master. Your future is dependant on and no one else.

also, if you provoked me or anyone else whos not a dipstick, youd probably get hit in the mouth
just sayin

being fat hasnt affected my confidence, this one time i provoked a guy, yeah ok

>None of this in your hands?
what specifically?
>Get a job while you are livinf rent free
why? for what reason?
>Save up for a vehicle and drive yourself out of that shitty situation
why?
>Hey maybe give your parents a couple hundred bucks a month for rent while your at it.
i only have one parent

the maximum salary is $200, rent is $1750

but why would i? for what reason
>Im sure your parents would like that!
my parent doesn't care
>Why dont you devolp healthy eating habits
because why should i?
>stop drinking soda
i don't drink soda
>caise you were already crying about not having money to go to tjr store for drinks
i wasn't crying, i don't care, i have no desire to go to the store for drinks
>atleast you briefly mentioned not having money for the store, not exactly crying
yes i did mention it, but what do you mean?
>i was obese from childhood til 18
ok
>Im now 28 and happy with my body and self for once
good for you, i suppose, you sound like you've worked very hard on it

have you thought about why you are happy? what do you think is your self and body exactly?
>No one else fucking did that for me
are you distraught that nobody did?

how would one make you loose weight?

why would one?

did you put expectations on people that they would?
>because at 19 i moved out and did that for myself
are you angry you had to?

would you have preferred if you didn't, if you just stayed the way you were

why did you move out?
>You still got alot of living to do
what do you mean by that?

nobody knows how long anybody will live or won't live, we don't control those things, nobody does

do you know how long i will live? do you know how long you will live?

what about how long other people would live
>And as much as you think you got the world figured out, you dont
what do you mean by having the world figured out? are you implying of omnipotency / infinite attainment of knowledge? what form of "knowing" are you referring to? there are many

>hehe I don't care about anything

do you realize how moronic you come across? Stroking yourself to the fact that you "couldn't care less" about everything that would atleast make yourself content while still apparently caring about what people on a mongolian imageboard think of you. You're truly a person that got their priorities set straight

80% me. But i have a lot of resentment and ill will towards my abusers.

>This is the end state of all NEETs.
nobody knows, that would vary
>The best thing that could happen to you would be for you to be thrown starving into the gutter
why?
>Then you'd either find it inside you to care abut getting something to eat, or you'd die
who knows what would happen?

and if said thing happened, what does it matter to what you're saying?
>Your problem is that your "good enough" threshold is low and your "lazy sack of shit" score is high
what is a good enough threshold and lazy sack of shit high?
>That situation can never resolve itself while other people are helping you maintain yourself at a level over your "good enough" threshold. Why would it?
what do you mean?

how would anyone know what would happen?

why are you implying there is a problem? do you think there is a problem to be solved? if so what is it and why?
>>"Meh" says user - until he runs out of tendies.
i don't have tendies
>>I dont care about anything but secretly I want attention and pity but I'll act like I dont
interesting, i never mentioned anything of the sort
>If I was the last man on Earth, my physical condition would be of fairly paramount importance, because I have no one backing me up
why? and exactly, you're the last man on earth, your physical condition is the best on earth
>It would be much more urgent for me to be in good shape as Robinson Crusoe than as Annoying user
why? how would you know what the shape of someone anonymous would look like if you don't know their identity? which anonymous exactly? how would you know, they're all anonymous

what shape is it exactly you would get yourself into?

if you dont care about anything, stop eating. go on a hungry strike. Why do you put food in your mouth? Instead of waiting for your one parent (explains alot) to kick you out, why dont you be proactive and just go lay in the street and die? dun care.

also if you stopped putting food in your mouth, you'd lose weight. get two birds stoned at once.

>And yet you're posting this here so obviously you aren't the totally empty vessel you say you are.
i never said i was an empty vessel, but what does an empty vessel do? are there rules and behaviors for an empty vessel?

what does an empty vessel do in your imagination?
>For some reason you want theses things to be know
what reason is some? how would you know if there was and what a reason for anything would be other than your own?

and even then, one could read another ones mind, but that doesn't mean they've understood why it's there
>which means you're not actually as ok with it as you'd like to convince yourself
what do you mean by ok?

what does it mean to be ok by your definition of what it means to "be ok"?

how would you know who is and isn't convincing oneself, how would you know if you were or weren't?
>dude you already stated if you lost weight you would need a skin reduction amd still habe gyno
yes
>i was obese
ok, i am not
>i didnt need any of that
ok
>You are decently heavy
by what standard?
>Im not saying this to shame you
ok, did you think i thought you were saying anything for a particular reason?

are you saying things with a reason?

if so what is your reason for saying said things and what were they
>its a fucking fact
what is? that i am heavy? by whose or what definition?
>Your life has no control
who has?

what does it even mean to have control over ones life?
>Why dont you just try?
try what?
>you didn't ask to come to this world but you are your own master
i suppose

master of what?
>Your future is dependant on and no one else
how would you know what the future is or isn't?

how would anyone?

>why? and exactly, you're the last man on earth, your physical condition is the best on earth

Because if you're the last man on Earth, there are no doctors. There are no tendie delivery men. There's nobody to ask "Hey dude can you grab the other end of this".

There's nobody to drill for oil to fuel vehicles. There's nobody to kill a fucking cow for me and grind it up into tasty little packages. There's nobody to plant tomatoes and pick them and carry them to wherever I want to buy them. There's nobody to hunt and shoot coyotes.

If I'm the last man on Earth, it's all on me. I need to be able to function. It's not good enough to be the (by definition) person in the best shape on Earth, as the last man would be. The shape you're in has to be good enough to accomplish all the things you'll need done, without assistance and without medical support.

>But I wouldn't care about any of that

As soon as you missed a few meals, you'd fucking care. All of this "Where are you going, wind?" bullshit would disappear as soon as you went 30 hours without something to eat.

dude. theres no one left besides you. no more men. so i have the best physique. whst about bears and cougars who want to eat you?

user was saying yoy have to be in good shape not to become a meal

>do you realize how moronic you come across?
what do you mean by moronic?

what is being moronic, according to you?

why does it matter what i come across as?

and why would i care?
>Stroking yourself to the fact that you "couldn't care less" about everything that would atleast make yourself content while still apparently caring about what people on a mongolian imageboard think of you
how am i stroking myself, how would you know what i'm doing or what anyone else is doing?

why do i care about what people think or don't in general? when have i said i do
>You're truly a person that got their priorities set straight
what priories?

what does it mean to have ones priorities straight?
>i have a lot of resentment and ill will towards my abusers
why?
>if you dont care about anything, stop eating. go on a hungry strike
why?
>Why do you put food in your mouth?
why wouldn't i?
>Instead of waiting for your one parent (explains alot)
what does it explain to you?
>why dont you be proactive
what does it mean to be proactive to you?

what is proactivtiy to anonymous #46223550?
>just go lay in the street and die?
why would i?

i have no desire to do anything or go anywhere
>dun care
what are you not caring about?

master of what?
>Your future is dependant on and no one else
how would you know what the future is or isn't?

how would anyone?

Did i say i know the future? are you saying you cant shape your future from your actions and choices?

>why did you reply?
because i'm bored, and want to shitpost while eating instead of staring at the wall

My grandpa died in a 3rd world deathbed watching flies fuck on the ceiling .He was immobile

>Because if you're the last man on Earth, there are no doctors. There are no tendie delivery men. There's nobody to ask "Hey dude can you grab the other end of this".
>There's nobody to drill for oil to fuel vehicles. There's nobody to kill a fucking cow for me and grind it up into tasty little packages. There's nobody to plant tomatoes and pick them and carry them to wherever I want to buy them. There's nobody to hunt and shoot coyotes.
yes
>If I'm the last man on Earth, it's all on me. I need to be able to function
what do you mean by function?
> It's not good enough to be the (by definition) person in the best shape on Earth, as the last man would be
so what is? if you have already achieved the greatest, what is it that would compel you to do anything?
>The shape you're in has to be good enough to accomplish all the things you'll need done, without assistance and without medical support
ok, so then you achieve that, now what?
>As soon as you missed a few meals, you'd fucking care. All of this "Where are you going, wind?" bullshit would disappear as soon as you went 30 hours without something to eat.

how would you know what would happen and what wouldn't?

are you talking about yourself or others? if so, how would you know?

what is where are you going wind bullshit?

if you got something to eat, how would that matter?
>dude. theres no one left besides you. no more men
no, there is nobody period
> whst about bears and cougars who want to eat you?
what bears and cougars?

there are no bears and cougars here

if there were, what about them?
>user was saying yoy have to be in good shape not to become a meal
ok, so if you achieved an ability to escape predators, what now?

what do you do now
>Did i say i know the future?
yes
>are you saying you cant shape your future from your actions and choices?
that depends on what "future" means

but no i'm not saying anything past what i said

This nigga talks too much

>if you dont care about anything, stop eating. go on a hungry strike
why?

because u dun care

>Why do you put food in your mouth?
why wouldn't i?
to lose weight.
>Instead of waiting for your one parent (explains alot)
what does it explain to you?
why you are so dumb.
>why dont you be proactive
what does it mean to be proactive to you?
to go lay in the street and die, because you dont care about life and already said if you were homeless you would lay down and die. mine aswell speed up the process.

what is proactivtiy to anonymous #46223550?
>just go lay in the street and die?
why would i?

lemme guess, why?

why?

why?

dumbass

If you're an incel that only thinks of vagina, you'll get mad if you're a dicklet, manlet, etc. I guess if you don't have any goals or dreams, you won't have shortcomings to get frustrated by. This could be you OP, but the fact that you made this thread makes me wonder. Maybe you do have desires but aren't aggressive enough to try fulfil them?

guess OP is gone.

>because i'm bored, and want to shitpost while eating instead of staring at the wall
yeah me too

when i don't have any food or internet i just stare at the wall as well, but it drives me insane
>My grandpa died in a 3rd world deathbed watching flies fuck on the ceiling .He was immobile
ok

did you care about your grandpa?

did watching him die or be immobile make you feel anything?

were you trying to imply you were say something after what you said?
>This nigga talks too much
interesting

why did you continue to read?

what is the correct amount of talking according to anonymous #46224011?

what should be talked about according to anonymous #46224011?
>why?

because u dun care

ok, but i don't care that i don't care
>why wouldn't i?
to lose weight.
ok

so why would you lose weight
>why you are so dumb.
what do you mean by dumb?

what does it mean to be dumb according to anonymous #46224031

what responses and words are dumb or smart according to anonymous #46224031?

is being dumb wrong?

if not, what is the correct course of action to be according to you?

if something is dumb, how does that relate to what is being said or isn't?

does a person's perception of another persons character matter in what is being said? does that change the nature of what is being said?
>to go lay in the street and die
ok
>you dont care about life and already said if you were homeless you would lay down and die
is that your definition of proactivity?
>mine aswell speed up the process
ok
>lemme guess, why? why? why? dumbass
yes why?

what is a dumbass according to anonymous #46224031?

are you frustrated? is that why

if you are unable to question your own reasoning, or answer for your claims and statements, or even explain what you are saying, then do not expect compliance simply because you said so

>f you're an incel that only thinks of vagina, you'll get mad if you're a dicklet, manlet, etc. I guess if you don't have any goals or dreams, you won't have shortcomings to get frustrated by.
yes i suppose
>Maybe you do have desires but aren't aggressive enough to try fulfil them?
i suppose everyone has desires yes, but i don't have any desire to pursue my desires yes

>but i don't have any desire to pursue my desires yes

This just makes me think you are depressed and low on energy. Maybe if you changed your lifestyle you'd be revitalised.

>i don't care about [anything]
Welcome to the world of depression. All values are nullified. All reason is meaningless. You have become nothing more than a decadent nihilist.
Choose your future:
>stay content in your world of nothingness until the world eventually destroys you or you whither from malnourishment or old age
>transvalueate all values and seek a way to achieve what represents power for you

Pretty much that's all of life.

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if you are unable to question your own reasoning, or answer for your claims and statements, or even explain what you are saying, then do not expect compliance simply because you said so,

Okay, then question your own reasoning on why you dont care about your own life, or not having food and internet drives you insane and you will just "stare at the wall", not help yourself because you dont have food and internet which is childish.
Anyone can sit there and just say, why at a statement and its what you have regressed to, despite never trying to explain your own feelings besides, " i dont care about anything" while getting Btfo in almost every response in this thread.

Im out. too old for this shit. Youll start about life. hopefully your caretaker kicks you out, you are a worthless mouth to feed and youll find that out in the real world. Why dont you do some work around the house and earn your keep? i already told you to get a job and pay rent, but, "your parent wouldnt care, so why do that?" paraphrasing of your words. Shit will hit the fan one day and when you have to take care of yourself maybe youll care. because its not your parent's responbility. And as soon as you get in the real world you can lay in that gutter and die.

*you'll start caring

>This just makes me think you are depressed and low on energy
why? what does it mean to be depressed and low energy, what does it mean to be the opposite of depressed and have energy?
>Maybe if you changed your lifestyle you'd be revitalised.
what do you mean by revitalized? what does it mean to be revitalized

how would anyone know what would happen if anyone did anything?

what do you think people should change their lifestyles to? why do you think anyone should change anything?
>You have become nothing more than a decadent nihilist
what is a decadent nihilist? what does it mean to be a decadent nihilist

how do you know what i have or haven't become? or what i am or am not? do you know what you are or what not? or what anyone else is or isn't? does anyone?
>Choose your future:
>stay content in your world of nothingness until the world eventually destroys you or you whither from malnourishment or old age
>transvalueate all values and seek a way to achieve what represents power for you
>Pretty much that's all of life.

wouldn't that be an either or, or black and white fallacy? why have you restricted your scenario to 2 broad and vague courses of action?

>Okay, then question your own reasoning on why you dont care about your own life
ok
>or not having food and internet drives you insane and you will just "stare at the wall"
ok
>not help yourself because you dont have food and internet which is childish
why? what is being childish? what does it mean to be childish? what does it mean to be mature according to you?

what do you think being childish or mature means? are you saying X or Y is wrong simply because you said so, or because your definition of something aligns with what you disagree with, for which the only reason you do is simply because you do?
>Anyone can sit there and just say, why at a statement and its what you have regressed to,
ok, is that wrong? what should i do, according to you? should everyone do everything according to you then? what should i say and what shouldn't i?
>despite never trying to explain your own feelings besides, " i dont care about anything"
you never asked me to explain any of my feelings

did you expect that i would without being asked to do so?
>while getting Btfo in almost every response in this thread.
every response has "been getting me btfo"?

what do you mean by that?

what does it mean to "get btfo"?

>what does it mean to be depressed and low energy?
>what do you mean by revitalized?
do you want definitions?

by depressed I mean that you may be depressed, as in you have a disorder
by low energy I mean that you have less vitality than the average person
by revitalised I mean that you could be filled with energy again

>how would anyone know what would happen if anyone did anything?
idk what you mean by this OP.

>what do you think people should change their lifestyles to? why do you think anyone should change anything?
I don't know, I just think that you're depressed and this isn't your natural state. I'm worried that your lifestyle has done this to you and one day the world will hit you while you aren't prepared and you'll suffer.

>I'm out.
why are you leaving?
>too old for this shit
isn't that in fact, according to your own definition, immature and childish?

how does one be "too old for" a particular thing?

what thing are you "too old for"?
>hopefully your caretaker kicks you out
is that what you hope, that my caretaker would kick me out?

what else do you hope?

do you hope these things to everyone?
>you are a worthless mouth to feed
what makes a mouth worthful or worthless to feed?

what does it mean to be a worthful mouth to feed?

who decides who and who isn't a worthful or wothless mouth to feed?

you? if so, why?

are you a worthful or worthless mouth to feed and why?

if you know anyone else, are they worthful or worthless mouths to feed and why?
>youll find that out in the real world
what do you mean by the real world?

what is the real world?

are you saying there multiple worlds?

what will i find out?

if there is something to find out, how would you know what one would or wouldn't find out?
>Why dont you do some work around the house
why would i? what work would i do?
>earn your keep?
what do you mean by earn my keep? are you saying there is a keep to be earned? what is a keep and what is one earning?

do you earn your keep? if so what are you earning and what is your keep?
>i already told you to get a job and pay rent
yes you did, why are you repeating yourself?
> but, "your parent wouldnt care, so why do that?" paraphrasing of your words
no, that's what they said, in fact, according to them, they don't want me to do that

i would say, that because salaries are only $200 a month, and rent is $1750, it wouldn't matter what contribution i would give because it would be so minor it wouldn't actually matter
>Shit will hit the fan one day
what does it mean for shit to hit the fan?

if so how would you know what would or wouldn't happen?

do you know when if shit will hit your fan?

>what does it mean to be a decadent nihilist
It means you don't value anything [nihilist], and that you are slowly decaying towards weakness [decadent].

>how do you know what i have or haven't become?
By reading your post, dummy.

>wouldn't that be an either or, or black and white fallacy?
What is the third option?

>why have you restricted your scenario to 2 broad and vague courses of action?
Because you can either thrive or whither. What is the third option?

OP, can you post a single fucking reply that isn't
>but what does it mean to [insert a simple well defined concept]?
>how do you know that [-//-]?
>what does it mean to [-//-]?

Read a fucking book for fucks sake. You'd enjoy Nietzsche for sure, you might even learn something. Start with Beyond Good and Evil / Genealogy of Morals.

>when you have to take care of yourself
why are you implying that i would? do you know what will happen? why is there only 1 thing that would happen, if so, how would you know what would or would not happen, how do you know the future?

do you know your future? if so how? and how many things would happen?
>maybe youll care
care about what?

i suppose anything could happen
>because its not your parent's responbility
what's not my parent responsibility?
>as soon as you get in the real world
again, what is this "real world" you are talking about? are you saying that there is more than 1 world? that there are multiple realities? if so, how many realities do you think exist?

how would you know what would or would not happen?
>you can lay in that gutter and die
are you saying that i couldn't now? if so why not?

>do you want definitions?
yes
>by depressed I mean that you may be depressed, as in you have a disorder
what disorder, why is something a disorder? what is order according to you?
>by low energy I mean that you have less vitality than the average person
how much vitality does the average person have? what is vitality according to you?
>by revitalised I mean that you could be filled with energy again
what does it mean to be filled with energy

>>how would anyone know what would happen if anyone did anything?
idk what you mean by this OP.

i mean, if someone did something, how would you know what would happen?

if i changed my lifestyle, how would you know what would happen? if you changed yours, how would you know what would happen? if someone else did, how would you know, how would they know? how would anyone know what would happen if they change their lifestyle?

so, how would anyone know what would happen if they did anything?
>I don't know
so you didn't know what you were saying?

why did you say it? because it sounded like you should?
>I just think that you're depressed
ok, why do you think i'm depressed?
>this isn't your natural state
so whose natural state is it if it isn't mine? what makes a state natural or not? how would you or anyone know what makes a state natural or not
>I'm worried that your lifestyle has done this to you
thank you for worrying about me, but what do you think has been *done* to me?
>one day the world will hit you while you aren't prepared and you'll suffer
who is the world? is the world an individual entity that does things? if so, what would the world hit me with and why would it hit me and use something to hit me with? why would it be when i'm unprepared? is this "world" observing me? do you have to prepare to expect to be hit by this "world"? what do you think it means to be prepared?

if it did hit, how hart would it hit? what would be my tolerance for being hit? what would be yours? and why would i suffer

>It means you don't value anything [nihilist]
alright
>that you are slowly decaying towards weakness [decadent].
why am i slowly decaying towards weakness?

what am i doing that is weak? what do you think strength is?
>By reading your post, dummy.
ok, so since i've just read your post, i know what you have become?

or does that only apply to me?
>What is the third option?
i don't know, is there only 3?

i don't know how many there are

could be none, could be infinty

do you?
>OP, can you post a single fucking reply that isn't
>but what does it mean to [insert a simple well defined concept]?
>how do you know that [-//-]?
>what does it mean to [-//-]?

have you not read the ones that i haven't, or are you only focusing on the ones that i have?

i've made plenty

are questions not allowed?

do they annoy you? if so why? is it because you can't answer for your claims?
>Read a fucking book for fucks sake
what book?

why would i read a book, and what is fucks sake, and why would i do it for such a sake
>You'd enjoy Nietzsche for sure
ok

why do you think so?
>you might even learn something
what would i learn? are you implying that i haven't learned anything? if so why and how would would you have known
>Start with Beyond Good and Evil / Genealogy of Morals
no thanks, i much prefer to think for myself

I don't have the endurance for this OP, I'm out.

>I don't have the endurance for this OP, I'm out.
interesting how once i asked you why you believed in the things you did, your immediate response was to leave

it's almost as if you don't know why you've said the things you have

bye

There's subconscious fear within you that is preventing you from doing anything of worth. You are conflicted on weather or not you care and I believe this signifies to a degree that you have concern over your current condition. I suggest that you get into spirituality or some sort, that should get rid of your malaise. If thats to difficult for you try to kickstart the process by whatever means.

this. Op's parent needs to kick this idiot out. my parents rent is 1750 and then 200 for everything else. i shouldnt pay for rent. every thing else is so cheep, if i make a small contribution it wont matter. Why doesnt that matter? im OP

Someone needs to take this neet outside and shoot them.
Why would someone do that? Whywhywhywhy

youtube.com/watch?v=ulIOrQasR18

haha, you're a fat, stupid piece of shit trying to take refuge behind the last fig leaf you can find which is apathy. except its transparent you aren't even apathetic because you're communicating. people only communicate when they need to change someones opinion.
>maybe by hoisting myself onto this martyr cross people on r9k will be nice to me, and if they aren't i can pretend i don't care
just once again, haha you fucking worthless land ape. your first sentence referencing philosophy lets me know that you even know the path you have to take to get out of this mess, but you wont! haha, stupid fucking piece of shit. just letting you know i'm 10,000 miles ahead of you on the path to virtue and reading this inspired me to go lift some weights and get even more ahead of stupid trash like you.
HAHAHAHA

>There's subconscious fear within you that is preventing you from doing anything of worth.

why do you think that? what led you to believe so

what do you think worth is? what is value according to you? what makes something "of worth"? what do you deem as having done something that is worthful?
>You are conflicted on weather or not you care and I believe this signifies to a degree that you have concern over your current condition
why do you think so?

what is my current condition?
>I suggest that you get into spirituality or some sort
interesting suggestion, why do you think i should? is it because you are into spirituality? if so why are you into spirituality?
>that should get rid of your malaise
what malaise?
>If thats to difficult for you try to kickstart the process by whatever means
why would i so something like that?
>Op's parent needs to kick this idiot out
why?
>my parents rent is 1750 and then 200 for everything else. i shouldnt pay for rent.
yes, they specifically requested that i do not work or attempt to pay for anything

i would say that the reason for which would require them to admit that they are a failure according to their own standards

it is impossible for me to pay rent, because as i said, rent is $1750 a month, and salaries are $200 a month, even my parents cannot pay the rent
>every thing else is so cheep, if i make a small contribution it wont matter
yes it wont, that's what they say

and it makes sense
>im OP
yes i am OP, what are you saying?
>Someone needs to take this neet outside and shoot them.
who should? which neet? me? you? why? and why should they?
>Why would someone do that? Whywhywhywhy
yes why, explain yourself

do you expect me to adhere by your words unconditionally as if you were an omnipotent all-knowing deity?

why aren't you explaining yourself?
hahahahahahah brilliant

>haha, you're a fat, stupid piece of shit trying to take refuge behind the last fig leaf you can find which is apathy
ok, why do you think so?

what is the correct weight according to you?

what is the correct words, statements and actions are people to do according to you?

are you a fat stupid piece of shit trying to take refuge behind the last fig leaf you can according to your own definition? or does this only apply to me? if so why?
>except its transparent you aren't even apathetic because you're communicating.
what should i do according to you then?

if one is apathetic, what do you think they are doing?

what is your definition of an apathetic person?

if someone is communicating, does that make them un-apathetic? if so what does it make them
>people only communicate when they need to change someones opinion.
why do you believe so?

what would they change it from and to? their own?

if that is so, why are you trying to change my opinion?
>>>maybe by hoisting myself onto this martyr cross people on r9k will be nice to me, and if they aren't i can pretend i don't care
who said this?
>just once again, haha you fucking worthless land ape
what is a worthless land ape?

what makes someone worthful or worthless? what is anonymous #46226244's definition of a worthful person? what do they do? why are they worthful?
>your first sentence referencing philosophy lets me know that you even know the path you have to take to get out of this mess, but you wont!
what mess?

what path?

know what?
>haha, stupid fucking piece of shit
why am i stupid?

what is your definition of smart?

are you smart or stupid according to your own definition, and who would you say is smart or stupid?

>just letting you know i'm 10,000 miles ahead of you on the path to virtue
what is the path to virtue?

what do you define as virtue?

what does each mile represent in this "path to virtue"? is it lifting weights?
>and reading this inspired me to go lift some weights and get even more ahead of stupid trash like you

why did it inspire you to lift weights? what part about it exactly inspired you?

why are you lifting weights?

what is it that you are getting ahead of exactly?

is it this "path to virtue" that you're talking about again?

according to you, what makes someone "stupid trash"?

You should care about using periods, though.

OP not being able to grasp simple concepts.

Expects people to explain there every thought and logic behind everything, yet not doing it yourself when challenged to at every single point in this thread. just ve up, OP.

hahahha

bretty gross desu

but i have no desire for sex or talking to women / people in real life in general
>OP not being able to grasp simple concepts.
what simple concepts?

what simple concepts? are you implying there are concepts to understand?

as far as i'm concerned, none of these "concepts" are even real, and nobody seems to be able to explain what they're even talking about
>Expects people to explain there every thought and logic behind everything
i don't

but why shouldn't i?

to not do so would be to trust that people even have any behind what they are saying

are you suggesting an alternative?

that i, you, or nobody should request people to explain their thoughts and logic behind what they're saying?
>yet not doing it yourself when challenged to at every single point in this thread
where have i not done so or refused to explain myself in this thread?

where have i been asked to do so?
>just ve up, OP
what do you mean by this?

Op's parent needs to kick this idiot out
why?
>my parents rent is 1750 and then 200 for everything else. i shouldnt pay for rent.
yes, they specifically requested that i do not work or attempt to pay for anything

>Your parent asked you not to work? or to try and help out around the house? Its someone elses responsibility to feed you, you dont even feed yourself
>let me guess, how is it my parents responsibility? Youll starve if they dont feed you. So? then dont eat we have been over this. What does that have to do with paying rent? You could be pulling your own weight or atleast trying because it is someone elses responsibility because you keep eating food instead of laying over to die.

it is impossible for me to pay rent, because as i said, rent is $1750 a month, and salaries are $200 a month, even my parents cannot pay the rent
>every thing else is so cheep, if i make a small contribution it wont matter
yes it wont, that's what they say

your parent is struggling to house and feed you, your own words"my parent cant afford the rent" Im sure they would appreciate any help on your end. even if you are unable to pay the whole rent, you could help by paying some.

but you are a dumb peice of shit. instead of questioning my reasoning, why dont you try and explain to me how its your parents job to do all that for you? all that is an unclear pronoun. You know exactly what im fucking saying.

op we are literally the same. to the last fucking bit. I also got the unlimited data and calls and messages and just hotspot it to the laptop. its 4g and its cheaper. wifi is barbaric when you can have that.
anyways, as we can both see in this thread and everywhereelse, people are too quick to conclusions about anything.
there is only one argument that we can't deny and it's that we are biological organisms (machines) and that is undeniable. being biological organisms we can experience different plethoras of states. to feel happiness you need more endorphins and oxytocin and gaba chemicals in your brain. mood literally determines thoughts.
now you are like - life is pointless, meh, boring
after a blast of feel good chemicals - life is pointless, nothing matters, lets have fun as long as it lasts! (right now this sounds cringey but that's because you are not in this mood)
what shapes mood is the advice this anons are giving you (us), they are just too dumb to explain WHY you should do them

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>inb4 WHY should I be happy, I don't care
you are not being open minded and you are not realizing that your state know is creating these thoughts and worldviews. happy FEELS better and that's something YOU LIKE, because you are a human, biological organism. or are you denying your own existence?

then stop breathing my oxygen and kys. don't forget to stream it so I can jerk off to it tho

>why do you think that? what led you to believe so

>what do you think worth is? what is value according to you? what makes something "of worth"? what do you deem as having done something that is worthful?

Because you struggle to find motivation in doing anything to improve yourself. Then again improvement and worth are very subjective terms depending on the person (sorry if I came of the wrong way saying you're not doing anything of worth). But still you bring up that self-improvement exists and that you aren't doing it, so I assume you are aware that you are deficient in something you consider worthwhile.

>why do you think so?
see above.
what is my current condition?
see above

>interesting suggestion, why do you think i should? is it because you are into spirituality? if so why are you into spirituality?

Because spirituality changes your perception of reality, your current perception causes your reality to conform to your thoughts of it. I am in a similar position to yourself I'm lost and I am trying to find truth about the universe and myself. The fact that you commented this suggestion interesting indicates that deep down you wish for a spiritual awakening to rescue you from your nihilism. You need to find your own unique spiritual path just find what makes your heart feel content. However you need to disregard logic a bit but still try to have a little bit of it so you don't go off the deep end.

>Malaise

I mean nihilistic attitude.

>why would i so something like that?
By kickstarting I mean to begin your spiritual awakening.

>your parent is struggling to house and feed you
yes, but he's also struggling to pay his $380,000 debt
>Im sure they would appreciate any help on your end
no, in fact he specifically told me he would not, and does not want me to

as i already said, i do believe it is because in order to for him to do so, he would have to acknowledge he is a failure according to his own definition of what he's doing
>even if you are unable to pay the whole rent, you could help by paying some.
there is $380,000 debt, every month, $1750 is added in rent, and $2000 in other things such as alimony

handing over $200, isn't even enough to purchase groceries for more than a week

do you really believe, that $200, in the face of nearly half a million, plus a whopping $3750 every month i hand over 200, is a contribution of any sort?
>but you are a dumb peice of shit
what is your definition of dumb?

what is your definition of a piece of shit?

who and who isn't a dumb piece of shit according to you?

by your own definition, are you dumb or smart, and are you or not a piece of shit?

why do you think i am a dumb piece of shit?
>instead of questioning my reasoning, why dont you try and explain to me how its your parents job to do all that for you?
i will continue to question you, your reasoning, and everything you say, and anyone else's for that matter unless they do explain what they're saying, or i don't suspect they don't have any

do what for me? when did i say it's anyone's job to do anything for me?
>You know exactly what im fucking saying.
yes, i know that you are not saying anything logical

>op we are literally the same. to the last fucking bit.
i don't think anything is capable of being the same, things could be similar, nearly indistinguishable, but still never the same

even siamese twins are different
> I also got the unlimited data and calls and messages and just hotspot it to the laptop
i don't have unlimited data calls and messages

i get 40gb a month on a data line on a 4g hotspot that i use though, the sim card on my cheap chinese burner phone isn't activated and doesn't have enough credit to make any calls or send messages but is able to receive them

i do use a laptop however
>its 4g and its cheaper
i also use 4g, it's not cheaper though, 500gb on ADSL costs $25, 40gb on 4G $15
>wifi is barbaric when you can have that
what do you mean by barbaric? i find wifi to be much better
>anyways, as we can both see in this thread and everywhereelse, people are too quick to conclusions about anything
indeed, i believe it's in most people's nature to do so

in a way, it makes sense, it's much easier to do that than go through everything from the ground up, wouldn't you say?

kind of ironically hypocritical though, given that you said we were literally the same to the last fucking bit though
>there is only one argument that we can't deny and it's that we are biological organisms (machines) and that is undeniable
why only one? why that one specifically? what do you mean by machines? why is it undeniable?

any argument can be denied

i don't know how many arguments are or are not incapable of being refuted
>being biological organisms we can experience different plethoras of states
i suppose
> to feel happiness you need more endorphins and oxytocin and gaba chemicals in your brain
yes
>mood literally determines thoughts
i wouldn't say it determines thoughts, but i would say it influences them
>now you are like - life is pointless, meh, boring
ok

I know this sounds crazy but you're actually really close to finding your purpose in life. It's only possible to realize what you actually want once you realize that you don't know what you want. Your case is pretty extreme though. In your case, I'm not sure that you would ever realize it.

>after a blast of feel good chemicals - life is pointless, nothing matters, lets have fun as long as it lasts!
what do you mean after a blast of feel good chemicals? why would any specific train of thought follow after something like that? does that happen to you?
>(right now this sounds cringey but that's because you are not in this mood)
why would it or anything you say sound cringey?

i don't believe i'm in any particular mood to the extent that i would identify that i would be in said mood
>what shapes mood is the advice this anons are giving you (us)
why? do what they say shape your mood? i suppose you could say to a varied extent, most people emotionally react to what people would say, but i don't know if what people say would shape your mood
>they are just too dumb to explain WHY you should do them
i wouldn't say they're dumb, perhaps there are other reasons

but i would agree that none of them have actually explain why i, themselves, or anyone for that matter should do what they say they should, what they're saying, or even why they're saying the things they are
>>inb4 WHY should I be happy, I don't care
you are not being open minded and you are not realizing that your state know is creating these thoughts and worldviews. happy FEELS better and that's something YOU LIKE, because you are a human, biological organism. or are you denying your own existence?

i never even said that, so, given that i have never actually said that, i won't reply

because i never said it
>then stop breathing my oxygen and kys. don't forget to stream it so I can jerk off to it tho
why?

>Because you struggle to find motivation in doing anything to improve yourself
why do you believe that i'm struggling to do anything? is it because you believe i said i was?
>Then again improvement and worth are very subjective terms depending on the person
indeed, so what do they mean to you, and why do you believe i, or anyone else should follow your definition of it?
>(sorry if I came of the wrong way saying you're not doing anything of worth)
apology accepted
>But still you bring up that self-improvement exists and that you aren't doing it, so I assume you are aware that you are deficient in something you consider worthwhile
>why do you think so?
>see above.
>what is my current condition?
>see above
ok
>Because spirituality changes your perception of reality
>your current perception causes your reality to conform to your thoughts of it
are you saying that reality is fluid?
>I am in a similar position to yourself I'm lost and I am trying to find truth about the universe and myself
why do you think i'm lost and trying to find the truth about the universe and myself?

why do you believe you might be lost and finding the truth about the universe and yourself?
>The fact that you commented this suggestion interesting indicates that deep down you wish for a spiritual awakening to rescue you from your nihilism
why would you say such a word would indicate such a thing? are you nihilistic? do you say that because you believe that deep down you wish for a spiritual awakening to rescue from your nihilism?
>You need to find your own unique spiritual path just find what makes your heart feel content
why do i need to do anything? why do you specifically think i need to do anything? do you say that because you believe you need to find your own unique spiritual path and find what makes your heart feel content?

>"why" spam
educate yourself on neurochemistry and neurological pathways yourself, you sour cunt

your parent is struggling to house and feed you
yes, but he's also struggling to pay his $380,000 debt
>So because your dad is already in debt, its okay your father is struggling to house and feed you? believe that might be a fallacy, x doesn't matter because of z.

>Im sure they would appreciate any help on your end
no, in fact he specifically told me he would not, and does not want me to.
as i already said, i do believe it is because in order to for him to do so, he would have to acknowledge he is a failure according to his own definition of what he's doing

> so because your dad is struggling with debt, he can't accept money from you because he would be a failure in his own eyes. so even though your dad needs help, he cant accept it. that doesnt change the situation or make it okay for you not to help your father. If you started helping him he would probably be grateful and express gratidude. So many people are debt it doesn't make you a failure. Trying to get out of debt and not succeeding would.

>even if you are unable to pay the whole rent, you could help by paying some.
there is $380,000 debt, every month, $1750 is added in rent, and $2000 in other things such as alimony

handing over $200, isn't even enough to purchase groceries for more than a week

do you really believe, that $200, in the face of nearly half a million, plus a whopping $3750 every month i hand over 200, is a contribution of any sort?
> does 4 grand a month seem like an insurmountable sum? is it impossible to make more than 4g a month and pay down the debt? if your dad is just managing the bills and not paying off his dept, that 200 a month could be atleast going to that. which is 2400 year, it might seem like a small ammount. but put yourself in your dad shoes. you just got divorced, you are in dept, and not making any progress paying it off. you got a kid who hangs around all day eating food, doing nothing around the house and not contributing.

You sound like me OP, don't know
what to say even. What keeps me going is
a strange feeling of superiority of being
born white and with pretty good looks.
Also the fact that at the age of 20
i gained a lot of knowledge from chans
and now know more about everything* than
99,9999 percent of people on this planet.
Also I have back problems and want
to fix them because a pretty face
doesn't go well with bad posture.

you know what, lets play your game, cunt
>I never said that
Never said what?
>I wont reply because I never said it
why would you not reply? what didn't you say?

by the way you don't have friends because you think you are smart (we can tell from the way you come off in your style of speech (written)) but you actually are not. you don't present logical arguments and you are arrogant. I was logically consistent and right, debunked you and I have the science of the world for neuroplasticity to back me up, all that to help you and you just came and said "why" does neuroplasticity work that way and you literally refused to reply to my other argument because "you never said it" without specifying what you didn't say.

10/10 if troll btw

i would kick you out, downsize to a smaller place, maybe 800 a month say and start paying more back on the dept.

>instead of questioning my reasoning, why dont you try and explain to me how its your parents job to do all that for you?
i will continue to question you, your reasoning, and everything you say, and anyone else's for that matter unless they do explain what they're saying, or i don't suspect they don't have any

do what for me? when did i say it's anyone's job to do anything for me?
>you didn't say it, but your dad is taking care of you, thus its his job and he doesnt have to. he does because you are his kid. he could kick you out.
>You know exactly what im fucking saying.
yes, i know that you are not saying anything logical

>However you need to disregard logic a bit but still try to have a little bit of it so you don't go off the deep end
why do you think i need to disregard logic? what does it mean to disregard logic "a bit"? what does it mean to disregard logic a bit but still try to have a little bit of it so you don't go off the deep end? what is the deep end? why are you assuming there is an alternative and what is it and why is it superior to that of logic?
>I mean nihilistic attitude
ok

so what makes you believe i have a nihilistic attitude?
>By kickstarting I mean to begin your spiritual awakening.
what do you think a spiritual awakening is?
>I know this sounds crazy but you're actually really close to finding your purpose in life

what is a life purpose according to you? why do you believe that individuals are capable of having purpose? how would you know who or who isn't close to finding anything? do you believe that you can predict the future, or that the future is predictable?
>It's only possible to realize what you actually want once you realize that you don't know what you want
why? if so how would you know that?

that's an oxymoron
>Your case is pretty extreme though
what is my case? why do you believe it's extreme? what is extreme about "my case" according to you?
> In your case
what is my case and how would you know what a case is or is not?
>I'm not sure that you would ever realize it
realize what?
>>"why" spam
am i not allowed to question you?
>educate yourself on neurochemistry and neurological pathways yourself

do you believe that you were talking about neurochemistry and neurological pathways? why do you believe that i'm not already educated on neurochemistry and neurological pathways? do you believe that you are?
>you sour cunt
what is a sour cunt? why am i a sour cunt, according to your definition of a sour cunt, are you or are you not a sour cunt?

you didn't stop yourself for a moment to troll these people here trying to give you advice with your stupid "why" when you know EXACTLY what they are talking about.
you are doing that because you lack empathy and because you are EVIL
and you are and will have your punishment for being EVIL, you miserable piece of shit, enjoy killing yourself when you hit 35 years old and have incurable back problems, fucking twat. better stop being such a fucking troll and start appreciating that people are giving you advice here you piece of shit. we were all depressed and it all didn't make sense to us too, but we made it, and we are here to give you the steps on how to. so do it or don't fucking say "why" because obiously we cant convince you in anything - you are the know it all -

don't bother replying with your childish questioning of something you always don't understand

yes it's obvious that I was speaking of neurochemistry and neuroplasticity. also its obvious that you are not educated on it because you didn't grasp the concept of how "feel good" chemicals influence thoughts and "why" they do it, in my previous retort to you.

>>So because your dad is already in debt, its okay your father is struggling to house and feed you? believe that might be a fallacy, x doesn't matter because of z.
i never said it doesn't matter

but on that note, do you believe something is a fallcy, it is therefore wrong?
>> so because your dad is struggling with debt, he can't accept money from you because he would be a failure in his own eyes
yes
>so even though your dad needs help, he cant accept it. that doesnt change the situation or make it okay for you not to help your father
except what i would do is not help
>If you started helping him he would probably be grateful and express gratidude
i already told you that he said he would not, and would in fact be the opposite of what you probably believe, according to him
>So many people are debt it doesn't make you a failure
yes
>Trying to get out of debt and not succeeding would
using simple mathematics, we can conclude that receiving 200 a month will not reduce 3750 a month, nor a total of 380,000, or its multiplying numbers no matter how long i were to receive it
>does 4 grand a month seem like an insurmountable sum?
yes of course, if you make $200 a month

it is in fact an insurmountable sum
>is it impossible to make more than 4g a month and pay down the debt?
no, but it is highly un-probable, just like it would be to make a half a million
>if your dad is just managing the bills and not paying off his dept, that 200 a month could be atleast going to that
ok, and what good does that do for anyone?
>which is 2400 year, it might seem like a small ammount
it is infact a small amount, every year 45,000 is accumulated into the 380,000 debt, by making 2,400 a year, the debt would still go up to 422,600

OP man please change. PLEASE. you don't deserve this cynical misery you are inflicting yourself. help your family and start doing the right thing. nihilism is just wrong and deep down you know it. I feel sorry for your father and you. please OP, help yourself. start thinking positively RIGHT NOW

Remember these things OP:
>life has no inherit meaning (you create the meaning yourself)
>living a long life without meaning is absolute suffering in the long term
Here's an alternative meaning of life (warning: deep shit)
>who are humans?
>intelligent/sentient animals
>what is the purpose meaning of life for animals?
>to fulfill their role in the eco system
>what is the purpose of life for the human animal?
>is surving and breeding enough of a reason for a human to live?
>no?
>what separates human from an animal?
>mainly sentience and intellect
>what is the purpose of a sentient being in the universe?
>to adapt to it's enviroment and study it
>why?
>to learn to adapt to the enviroment more effectively and evolve and find the truth about the meaning of everything
The purpose of a human life is to
evolve in any desired direction and
find their own philosophy of life and truths*.

>but put yourself in your dad shoes. you just got divorced, you are in dept, and not making any progress paying it off. you got a kid who hangs around all day eating food, doing nothing around the house and not contributing

how do you know what it is?

in fact, he does not want me to "do anything around the house", that angers him, he does not want me to contribute, that also angers him

you haven't answered any of the questions i have presented to you, or explained any of your reasoning or what you were saying

i still don't see how what you're talking about or your fascination with my parent matters
>You sound like me OP, don't know
what to say even
ok
>What keeps me going is
a strange feeling of superiority of being
born white and with pretty good looks

what do you mean by white? your skin color resembles a lighter shade? you are of caucasian descent? you are of one of the many countries which also come from caucasian descent?

why do you feel that you are superior?

what do you mean by good looks? what do you think are good looks? who told you that you have good looks? how do you know that you have good looks?
>Also the fact that at the age of 20
i gained a lot of knowledge from chans
and now know more about everything* than
99,9999 percent of people on this planet

why do you believe that you gained a lot of knowledge from chans?

why do you believe that because you gained a lot of knowledge from chans, you know more than 99,9999 percent of people on this planet?
>Also I have back problems and want
to fix them
ok
>a pretty face doesn't go well with bad posture

what do you think a pretty face is or looks like?

I can't answer your questions because I am trying to find answers to them as well. However from the looks of it you seem to be ruminating. Here's a link that describes the condition:

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rumination_(psychology)

>you know what, lets play your game
what game
>cunt
who's a cunt? me? why am i a cunt? what do you think a cunt is and by your own definition are you or are you not a cunt?
>Never said what?
"why should i be happy, i don't care", in the continued reply to your own reply that you made ()
>why would you not reply? what didn't you say?
because there is nothing that i said to reply to
>what didn't you say?
"why should i be happy, i don't care", in the continued reply to your own reply that you made ()
>by the way you don't have friends because you think you are smart
how would you know or not know why anyone would or wouldn't have friends? how and why do you think i think i am smart?
> (we can tell from the way you come off in your style of speech (written))
who is we? who are you with? are you speaking on the behalf of other people? if so which other people? or are other people speaking on your behalf?

what do you think is the way i come off is? what is my style of written speech? how would you know what my style of written speech is or isn't?
>you don't present logical arguments and you are arrogant
why don't i present logical arguments? why do you believe i'm arrogant?
>I was logically consistent and right
why?
>debunked you
what did you debunk?
>I have the science of the world for neuroplasticity to back me up
for what claims? what science specifically?
>all that to help you and you just came and said "why" does neuroplasticity work
when did i ask why neuroplasticity works?
>that way
what way?
>you literally refused to reply to my other argument
what other argument?
>because "you never said it" without specifying what you didn't say
are you referring to ?
>10/10 if troll btw
why do you think i'm a troll? is it because i question what you say?