I just came back from the therapist for the first time and I feel like shit...

Psychiatry =/= psychology

"Changes" are a meme. You are who you are and you can't change the embarrassing part you already lived.

I could've told you that you should stop worrying.

Let me refer you to

to get a good outfit (look like a respectable man), it will be a YUGE difference. Do sports, have a hobby other than playing vidya gaems (it's been established a disease now (and rightfully so)) and maybe look into alpham styling / gentleman's gazette.

user, they literally study the same things in college, only difference is that doctors can give you drugs

I am going to a psychiatrist and psychologist, they are re diagnosing me even though I've been diagnosed for years, I don't trust them or like them.

>therapist asks if I'm sexually active
>say no
>she smirks

Therapy is a scam to make lonely isolated men feel worse

I went to a therapist for dealing with my problems, they gave me basic advice, but of course it was 150 dollars a session, fucking joke.

>try to get therapy
>they can't see me until August 17
guess I'll just keep being a piece of shit until then

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Fuck that shit man, that's soul destroying
Roasties make the worst therapists

you can't be THAT bad user, you chose the best girl from the monogatari series. +1 digital hug to you, unless you are uncomfortable with human contact and then +1 thumbs up.

Scheduled an appointment with them too, will be seen in Nov 2018.

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Sometimes i think about getting a therapist. But then i realize im a neet with no money. Mental health is truly for the rich.
From what i read online if you tell a therapist that you want to kill yourself they press a button on their desk and a swat team breaks into the room and beats you with sticks and then a man with a butterfly net loads you into a van and drives you to the nut hut

>going to a female therapist
really?

I went to do a career aptitude test and the fucking lady making little laughs at the things I wrote still makes me mad

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yeah they ask if you have suicidal thoughts, I said no obviously.

It's a massive difference in attitude towards mental illness, though.
One thinks all you need are happy pills, one thinks you need to work through it.

NEVER say you have suicidal thoughts to a mental health professional.

There is literally NOTHING positive that will come out of it. In-fact if you do, the consequences of it might actually make you finally do it lmao.

both work for me honestly, the medication helps focus, thinking positive helps me at least.

yeah I never understood why you would this makes them immediately stop all assistance.
Say goodbye to any medication or hope for improvement

>male therapist asks if I've ever had suicidal thoughts
>"well I've thought about them but I do not have a concrete plan right now or the means at this time"
>he gives me smug look
>"you seem like you know how to answer that question"

You're a product of your actions, and you can use the results of past actions to evaluate what your future actions should be in order to benefit you better.
I think the only embarrassment you can suffer is to make a mistake you fail to perceive as a mistake. Because then you're obstructed from making any attempts to correct it.

oh fuck dude, when i was researching therapists i found out about this really obscure type of sex therapy. There are therapists who actually specialize in sex problems. But there is one specific kind where the therapist or one of their helpers actually has sex with you. I think some hippies came up with this concept in the 60's.

I have no idea how its legal.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexual_surrogate

ps, i think this type of therapy is what incels need

Glad when these threads pop up, because I do seriously consider therapy, but these help remind me that it would be a waste of my already little money and be no help.

pride shall get you nothing. never has and never will.

with that said i understand that it feels awkward at first, i was the same. but for the love of buddha do not hesitate to show your most pathetic and dark sides and throw away your pride, that is the least pathetic and most productive thing you can do if you are seeking to improve your mental health or just improve in life in general. keep it up user.

Ditto mah dude

Im sure they'd deny service to ugly unfuckable men.

Nice digits.

You need to take the 2D pill, thats what helped for me.

how long have you been depressed user?

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Yes, people reccomending therapy and "getting help" so much that it gets like a mythical quality to it, like it could actually help solve your problems. But its important to remember that therapists are still post-college normies who enjoy mocking and looking down on weak men.

I'd hope so. You're a volcel until you've lost your excess fat and made the least bit of effort to look good.

the point of the therapy is to work with those types of men, the ones who feel physically or sexually inadequate

The belief is that since they lack experience they are the way they are, so the therapy is to give them experience.

>feel

Yes feel, not are

>therapist asks me what I do
>tell him about Jow Forums
>he nods for about two minutes straight while I spaghetti a description of Jow Forums and such
>he tells me I shouldn't go on here anymore
Thanks doc

>show your most pathetic and dark side
>get laughed out of the therapists office

No thanks bruv

he's right though, this isn't healthy

Not him, but then why does it feel so good to browse? And why do I feel anxious if I don't come on?

>what feels good is healthy
Sorry to hear you making that assumption.
It feels good to browse because humans are curious beings and browsing sends all kinds of unpredictable stimuli to your brain. You feel anxious if you come on (I assume you mean this board or Jow Forums in general) because you've build a make-believe (surrogate) community you think you belong to.

I'm always kinda sad. College made things far worse tho.
Thanks, user. Love you too

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>therapist go to school for 4-8 ears just so they can say (just stop worrying about it) or (just bee yourself) I swear therapists are more useless in this way than 90% of robots at least a robot will understand what youre talking about from experience and can actually sympathize. Most therapists went into psychology to solve their petty first world problems like being sad after getting dumped by Chad

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Hi user. Yeah, one session is going to suck, you're probably gonna feel like it's hopeless and not going anywhere. Next itme, make sure to tell that to your therapist, just so they know how it works.

Is this an American thing? When I was at a UK therapist, me saying this made them move me up to a higher intensity therapy session that actually helped me.

no offense but your advice is complete horseshit

with that being said now lets suck each other's dick togather

>Tell therapist i tried to commit suicide
>Starts berating me about how much of a selfish asshole i am
>Never go back to that therapist
Female therapists are a fucking joke.

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That sounds like a complete dickhead and you ought to have told her on the spot. If she answers anything back, threaten to contact their licencing body. She could easily land out of a job for shit like that.

I'm a diagnosed schizo and going to therapy helped me a lot. I think if you have an actually mental illness it can be helpful but if you're just unfulfilled or a frustrated incel it won't help much.
I was having intense hallucinations and paranoia and my therapist helped me calm down and see more clearly. It also helped that my therapist was a man

By "schizo" are you talking about schizoid personality disorder or schizophrenia?

Other things don't make me content like Jow Forums does

In america if you tell a therapist you have thoughts about harming yourself or others they call the cops to beat some life into you and then send you to the cuckoos nest

Females can not empathize with men because the realities of a robot and roastie whos been treated like royalty all her life are night and day. We might as well not even be on the same planet because we are like seeing an alien species to them. They dont understand our language, culture or what kind of history we might have because its so outside their realm of possibilities. Female therapists are utterly useless trash with no critical thinking skills or objectivity.

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Thats awful. I would have told her to fuck off right there and demanded a refund.

>go to therapist
>they say some dumb, basic shit like "don't worry about other people", "be yourself", or "just do what you want to do"
>freak out at them, tell them I could've got that from a fucking fortune cookie and at least enjoyed myself reading it
>refuse to pay
ebin.

I believe it, that relates to the 2nd part of my answer (surrogate community).

Well yes women aren't able to empathize with men. A female therapist is useless for men as she'll be too busy being disgusted by your weakness to help you.

This is true. And I do believe if you're uncertain you have a mental illness you most likely don't have one.

Schizophrenia
Originall

>visit therapist
>asks me "what do you think is wrong"
>"well I think I'm antisocial...I"
>"user do you hate people? no? well, thats what antisocial means so you aren't antisocial"
>don't even get to continue my thought

Why surrogate? Why can't it just be my community?

Sounds about par for the course with therapy.

If you even mention it to one of those "Help" lines on the phone, they'll track your location and send cops to your door, who will probably kill you if you're not white.

>not telling them to shut the fuck up and listen like you pay them too
fucking cuck

>And I do believe if you're uncertain you have a mental illness you most likely don't have one.
It's not always that simple. When I first showed signs of schizophrenia I thought it was everyone around me, my delusions were real, roommate wanted to kill me, government was following me etc. When my mom told me she thought i was schizophrenic i thought she was lying and blamed outside problems again when it was all my head doing everything

>therapist

AKA a Jew.

You may feel like shit now, but being honest with your therapist is vital for him to be able to help you
Good luck, user

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Therapy is for mentally ill people, which is an extreme minority in the world. Most people, myself included, are unhappy due to circumstances and being living failures not anything wrong with our brains.

I imagine it like going to proctologist about your hemorrhoids. Its embarrassing but necessary
try to be honest but not too honest

That's a matter of definition; if a community is a unified body of individuals, a place where the "members" aren't recognizable as individuals cannot be called a community; furthermore there is no common characteristic aside from anonymity (which is a lack of obvious characteristics). That's actually what I love about imageboards: I can come here and treat everyone I interact with as blank slate without having to worry about my own biases or their prejudice.

>>"user do you hate people? no? well, thats what antisocial means so you aren't antisocial"
How can you become a therapist and not know what antisocial means?

you can learn to let go and stop berating yourself over the embarrassing stuff you did
Its honestly liberating desu senpai

I've been seeing clinical psychologists (yes the ones with masters/doctorates, not meme therapists with a meme certificate from cereal box)

It's done absolutely nothing for me, zero (0). I just feel like the entire profession is actually made for normies, not for robots. These people cannot help robots who are too far gone. I guess they could be okay for normies with normie problems though.

Actually I am wrong about it doing 0 for me, what it did do for me is make me realize how fucked I actually am, there is no other help available, this is it, and it does nothing.

>goes to therapy
>"I don't feel like your advice is helpful"
>"user, you're just not trying. Come back next week ;^)"

I am sorry but i had to do it

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almost literally the entire profession changed when they released the DSM-V. This has happened nearly every time. It is a meme. Literally a meme. Literally a meme profession. It exists solely because it is not allowed to be criticized and as such people keep talking about it like they have been forever.

This

He isn't wrong this place is an echo chamber reenforcing the same terrible toxic ideas. Misery loves company so even people who are trying to improve get constantly discouraged

Do any of ya'll ever think about capitalism?
Have you thought about the function of therapy in a capitalist society? Of course anything in capitalism is about accumulating wealth, to make profit.
So why wouldn't therapy be any different?

Is it truly in a therapists interests to help you? Or to make you keep coming back. Paying more and more. Never fixing yourself.

Well, have you thought about it from the therapists point of view? They have to talk to people all day. And i guess sad boy never goes outside is probably at the bottom of the pole because some of their clients are legit schizos or have been raped or molested.

I guess, the best a therapist could do for a person is give them some pills and be a person to talk to.

>She could easily land out of a job for shit like that.
She already got shit canned like a week after the incident which is pretty good

What are you supposed to do then?

There isn't anything to do

Well, thank you a lot

Therapy is fucking snake oil.
You're not depressed, cunts. You're sad. You're not feeling bad because of a chemical imbalance or some fucked up childhood trauma while having a loving girlfriend, good job, passions, etc.
Most of you are feeling bad because you have a shit life, live in awful conditions with no positive human interaction, no sex, no money, no hobbies or passions, no reason to live and no way out that you know of.
There's your fucking problem, go cry to your friend for hire, it's not getting better until you improve your living conditions.

This is 100% true.

But the problem is exactly that mate, the living conditions can't be improved unless you got super lucky winning the lottery or something. Then at least if you won $25,000,000 you could PAY 2 WIN the life of a normalfag and then you'd begin to attract normalfags into your life and then you'd eventually morph into a normalfag.

The problem is a lot of guys get into their late 20s, early 30s and it's really honestly too late for them to do much now that can have any real difference on their living conditions. Thats the problem!

Improving conditions is not possible for many, which is why the male suicide rate is so high.

I'm not sad, I feel empty

why is the post-op tranny suicide rate so high then?

Because they realize their living conditions didnt improve and theyre still not actually the sex they want to be because its impossible for them to be the sex they think they are in their mind

suicide should definitely be considered more of an option for people without mental illness.

this is the only type of socializing that you get.It's pretty much a substitute for rl socializing.There is a reason why normies love socializing 24/7

>BPD
>killing animals

killing animals isn't a symptom of BPD

he is right though.There is a difference between anti social and asocial and i bet you are the latter.Anyway,your therapist was retarded enough to just assume everyone is familiar with their lingo.

>I told him I have social anxiety and he said that I should stop worrying about what other

I had a brother who told me about his time with a mental institution, the social worker basically admitted to him she thought they were all men who didn't grow up and she had disdain for them and he was surprised. She was getting off on being above the mentally ill people and considered them like retards.

Honestly I don't think we know how bad life is at the end of the day.

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>until you improve your living conditions
that's what a therapist can help with. sad people can go to therapy, it is not reserved for anybody.

I socialize irl when I do volunteer work and I talk to my coworkers sometimes, but it doesn't feel good like here. Here people are honest and each post is unique so outside of threads it's not like everyone secretly hates me. I have no reputation to despise.