Does White Privilege exist? If so, why? If not, why not?

Does White Privilege exist? If so, why? If not, why not?

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White privelege is just a phrase that gets thrown around when people of colour start losing arguments with white people.

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In terms of social status and the dating world, yes. White women are extremely privileged over non-white women, without a doubt.

So, you're saying it doesn't exist? Why?

I meant both White men and women

no because the way people respond to identities is relative to the environment

being a white person whose car breaks down in a black ghetto, the only privilege you have is to get robbed, beaten, and possibly killed

>"No, because under this rare circumstance being white is actually a disadvantage"
kek
So, you're saying that being White leads to no advantages whatsoever in today's world?

no

it's like in freakonomics they tell you it's more likely that if your name is DeShawn, you are not being discriminated against when you don't get hired but rather that a DeShawn comes from the kind of background where he wouldn't have the qualifications for the job

so if you're just looking at broad statistics then it seems like being white plays into white successes, but in reality it's just the circumstances that white people leverage

if you say on the other hand that being black means you necessarily cannot have a good childhood background, a good education, and valuable skills then you're completely throwing free will and personal accountability out the window

It can't consist because there are inconsistencies in racial privilege. There are white homeless people, and rich black people, this applies to everybody of every kind of distinction. The only absolute of privilege and power is money, race has nothing to do with it, neither does sex, orientation, or ability. Money is the great equalizer

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It has little to do with the tone of the skin and a lot to do with being among the more rich and educated, which are still the highest success predictors of a person in our society.

Yes it exists and we should make it stronger and more relevant in everyday life

No. When I was in college, there was a designated club and scholarship available for every race except white. That's just an example. I honestly can't think of any time in my life I've ever gained some sort of advantage or benefit for being white. It seems like being another race would be much more beneficial.

Whew I hope you hypocrites dont believe in female privilege then.

>gets asked about White Privelge
>"it doesn't exist"
>again asked if being White renders any advantages whatsoever on the sole virtue of being White
>"No, and to back up my denial of White Privilege I'm going to go on a rant about Blacks"

That always perplexed me, every instance White Privilege is brought up, immediately Blacks are brought into the mix.

"White cars aren't catered to more, and to prove that, I'm going to talk about Black cars."

I didn't ask nor imply any other race would have a disadvantage, I asked if by virtue of being White, would said White is put in an advantageous position in certain situations.

In the business world? Definitely not. In the dating world? Definitely.

I don't, so what's hypocritical about it?

no, to bluntly answer your question, having white skin does not confer any exclusive privileges

>"No, now here are exceptions to the general rule."
How does your specific, off the norm experience somehow negate the existence of the usual experience?

At least this guy can admit it.

Can guarantee they do.
>"Privilege by virtue of race? Bullshit. Privilege by virtue of sex?Fucking duh you'd have to be a female to not think so."

>exclusive
So you're admitting that there IS some truth to the phrase, just that it's not really a "White Skin" thing?

no, I think you're trying to associate other qualities with being caucasian, which is by its nature racism

when I say exclusive I mean they're extra privileges whites have on top of the privileges other races have which whites supposedly already have

Why don't you ask about Jewish Privilege, OP?
That's much more prevalent

> (You)
>>"No, now here are exceptions to the general rule."
>How does your specific, off the norm experience somehow negate the existence of the usual experience?

What are you even talking about, do you have a reading comprehension problem or something? The post made it clear that white privilege does not exist.

I found the perfect explanation online:
"White privilege does not mean every White person has it easy and that every non white has it hard. It doesn't mean all white people are racists out to hold minorities down. It just means being part of the majority group is usually more beneficial than being a minority in most countries. The "White Privilege" people refer to is based on strictly American population - ( >I didn't specify this myself, I apologize) - and race demographics. There are ALWAYS exceptions. I probably had more priviege than some whites since my black parrents were/are upper middle class architects. There are poor disadvantaged white people but it doesn't negate an overall trend of White privilege. White "privilege" is basically white "not having to deal with most the bullshit minorities deal with."
BUT
You're saying that this isn't the case? That there's no Majority (in this case WHITE) Privilege? None, whatsoever?

But by your word of decree, there are NO aspects in which being white is beneficial? None?

>thinking anecdotal evidence suddenly decides what are general truths

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Nope. We get killed more by cops. We got no scholarship programs in uni's since we are the majority. We are pressured every where by the mdeia to hate how we are white (The glorification of the ghetto, and rap. Then the hatred of white people moving in to the ghetto). We are undrepresented in uni's and most jobs now. We have no privileges over any other race

>We are underrepresented in unis and most jobs now
Where do you live? California doesnt count because its a major-minority state.

I do live in california. Norwalk :(

No, whites are the most attacked race, the race that most suffers racism and not to mention that we have less rights than others, since the government started imposing affirmative action.

>Does White Privilege exist?
How would you determine objectively if being white gave you intrinsic privilege or not?

yeah it does IMO and I personally think they deserve it.. they built a great civilization. not a white worshiper but some things are well earned. idc if you're a slimy neck beard, you deserve it.

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>OP asks if white privilege exists
>never defines white privilege
>leaves it open to random Jow Forumstards to respond with what they think it is
>OP responds with um no sweetie
this is why you dont debate communists
dont @ me unless youre OP and your reply contains a concrete definition of white privilege

>"Nope. We get killed more by cops. We got no scholarship programs in uni's since we are the majority. We are pressured every where by the mdeia to hate how we are white (The glorification of the ghetto, and rap. Then the hatred of white people moving in to the ghetto). We are undrepresented in uni's and most jobs now."
>"Th unrelenting confirmation bias I posses say otherwise: JUST LOOK AT THAT PARTICULAR AREA, AND THAT PARTICULAR AREA, WHILE IGNORING THE GENERAL AREA!! Totally proves White privilege doesn't exist"

kek


Alright but seriously lets dissect your response
>We get killed more by cops.

Because you're the majority, meaning that this is most likely to be the case since by virtue of being in larger numbers than other races, not that you're specifically being hunted down on some "WhitesMustDie!!" agenda. You even acknowledged being the majority in the following statement, but this somehow doesn't register to you.

> We got no scholarship programs in uni's since we are the majority

Again. you're in the belief that White Privilege is "Be White and I get free shit" and then you go "But that's not my experience, so therefore WP doesn't exist." ". And once again I'll say that isn't the case.

"We are pressured every where by the mdeia to hate how we are white"
Where? Who's saying "Hate yourself for being White" on national television and NOT being immediately called a racist? Last time I checked, Whites are what usually on TV and aren't shunned off by virtue of skin color.


>We are undrepresented in uni's and most jobs now.

Again, bullshit, because in America, Whites are the majority, AND UNLESS THERE ARE SPECIFIC LAWS BANNING WHITES FROM CERTAIN AREAS,there is no way that Whites would face under-representation. You sir are again lying out your ass.

> We have no privileges over any other race
>I acknowledge that we used to have innate advantages over other races in America, but I'm upset that slowly, races are coming to even ground.

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Certainly. By and large you'll find that whites just straight up trust and generally like other whites more than the rest.

Yeah thats probably why.

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>"Where's the definition OP???"
I'm assuming you didn't read the thread, see:
(Me)

>people are more willing to associate with those they can better relate to

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Just because it's obvious doesn't mean that it isn't privilege.

Unironically, people in this thread are denying this.

>dating

Is this literally the only thing you all care about? God, just hire a hooker ffs.

Im not a man you dunce.

I mean you aren't refuting his claim, but rather critiquing his interests.

your explanation, which wasnt a definition, was just moving the goalposts and deflecting. you went from defending the fact that white privilege exists to calling it majority privilege (but white in western countries)
>policies are written to benefit the majority of a nation
yes this exists. why would the general population want to enact something that doesnt benefit most of the society?

what doesnt exist is policy thats written to benefit the majority race. race is a protected class and legislation is written to be irracial. well, aside from affirmative action :)

any other replies from you will be ignored because i know you dont want a real answer and youve already used leftypol debate tactics on dumbass robots

I'm critiquing this entire board. This a discussion about race and social dynamics and you fucks make it into tfwnogf.rar

I don't care what you identity as faggot

Dating IS part of social dynamics. Why do you think Brazil wants to import white American semen en masse?

This guy came in this thread swinging and got BTFO'd with a singular explanation that touches on every counter argument he had, so he goes full roastie mode with "You're not even worth my time I'm ignoring you!!!"

Fucking kek

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you clearly have poor reading comprehensions skills.

White people are generally better off than non-whites, we generally have a better relationship with our families, etc.

It's more general. Individual whites may be poor, have a shit relationship with their families, etc.

This a discussion about race and social dynamics and you fucks make it into tfwnogf.rar
Who made it about Blacks??? The original post you were responding to said nothing about nogs lmao

>tfw you witness someone get btfo by a roastie

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>discussion about White Privilege
>becomes a blacked thread

Issue's a bit complicated.

Of course white privilige exists. We whites have generations of accumulated wealth which shows in us living on average in better, more central locations, having generations of better education, and favorable attitudes in the society. We populate and rule the most successful and richest countries in the world, which, by extension, gives us great influence of the rest of the world too.

But white privilige the way it's used in the world today, is bullshit. White privilige does NOT mean that most white people didn't still have to work, study, and earn what they get in life. It just means it's statistically easier for them, and they have less road blocks on the way there.

But instead of an example to aspire to, white privilige is used hatefully: as an excuse for why non-whites wouldn't have to work. Instead of treating it as a simple statistical fact that is NOT the fault of the whites living today, it's used as a tool to justify racism, misandry, and hatred against whites. And even white feminists use it as a political weapon to strike against men - also, as an excuse so they wouldn't have to actually earn the things they want.

So white privilige, in the end, is a story about history. About how instead of using the history to learn how to avoid past mistakes, it's instead used as an excuse to spread hatred today on the innocent people of this time, for deeds that were done in distant past by the guilty who have long since been dead. And what this does, is what it's always done in history: It breeds a counter reaction from whites, which will invariably result in a deserved explosion. Two sides, neither at fault, hating each other because they're too simple and too stupid to realize that some problems just can't be fixed simply by finding a random scape goat.

The denial of singular merit is frowned upon, yes, but that doesn't refute the general trend.

White privilege means you can act like an idiot and get away with it. See: this guy

Yes, I do agree that the entire basis of some people's denial of White Privilege is based on the misconception presented by the mis-described definition of said term.
What they hear is
"White Privilege" = "Whites have it easy";
which isn't the reality of the situation, as you described it perfectly.

Why are you deadset in making this a blacked thread? Is that you Mr.Ebony'sOrbiter?

No, he represents the entirety of his race now. For his dumb actions, his entire race is now associated with said dumb actions.
That's how it works, right?

Didn't mean to imply it did. Just saying the obvious, people can have it tough in every race.

If he's the epitome of the white race, I pity us.

Idk if it actually exists but I've been pulled over at least 5 times and never gotten a ticket. I've even gotten put in handcuffs on the side of the highway once and had my car checked. I'm polite to police tho and don't do things too make them anymore angry. Unlike black people do when they're pulled over so who knows

>your explanation, which wasnt a definition, was just moving the goalposts and deflecting.
you went from defending the fact that white privilege exists to calling it majority privilege (but white in western countries)

Your entire stance is based on your own misconception of what WP is. The post clearly gave you an in-depth idea of what it was, but you're going "BUT ITS NOT DEFINED! UR DEFLECTING AND MOVING GOALPOSTS!!"
There was no deflection or goalpost moving to begin with since you came in this thread without even stating your view of what WP was, then tried to shit on how I gave you an answer because your argument was already defeated before it even began, which I assume is the denial of WP. Quit parroting discussion buzzwords and think before you talk shit.

>yes this exists. why would the general population want to enact something that doesnt benefit most of the society?

This is where you backtracked because you realized to deny WP is to deny MP, which is asinine.

what doesnt exist is policy thats written to benefit the majority race. race is a protected class and legislation is written to be irracial. well, aside from affirmative action :)

Again, your own misconception of what WP is started to show. No one said "WP is having innate laws to keep Whites in power and keep non-Whites out of power". You're strawmanning to make the discussion less of a hard pill for you to swallow.


>any other replies from you will be ignored because i know you dont want a real answer and youve already used leftypol debate tactics on dumbass robots

This is where you realized that your entire stance was based on misconceptions I said earlier, but you had the need to chime in your 2 cents because you were clearly ready for a debate, but only realized half-way through that you already lost and had nothing of real, factual refutation of WP.
Like I said, think before you talk shit so you don't go end up in URNOTWORTHMYTIME-Mode
Cue "Curb your enthusiasm" theme

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Nah if anything its minorities and women that have privelege in western society. As in they have special laws and departments designed to give them special treatment and gibs. Minorities are treated like royalty while white man has to wirk his ass off to fund their welfare

Women in general are priveleged af