I've started to realize that many of the problems I have are tangled up in my lack of masculinity. Being raised in a western socialist and feminist country, placing women on pedestals, teaching boys not to be boys while also having no real male role models. I did as I was told, I was a good boy. too good. So now I'm not a man. I'm not desirable. I'm some sort of androgynous mess of a person trying to satisfy the "consensus" of society but not the reality of it. The only two women that were interested in me were desperate, bisexual, brainwashed left-wing unattractive women who believed masculinity was "toxic", but still needed a dick in them. I'm not saying I deserved better. I get what I deserve.
How do I get out of this hole that I've dug so deep? How do I become a man? Help me Chad >inb4 "just b urself bro"
If this is a societal problem why are you in the minority and most people aren't having rthese issues.
Aiden Ramirez
I'm not blaming society entirely, it is mostly my fault but I have other issues combined with this that contribute to it aswell. But you can't deny that men in general in western society have become less masculine, and very rapidly, in just the last 10 years
Brody Gonzalez
>So now I'm not a man. I'm not desirable. You're still not getting it. It's not a man's job to be desirable, that's the woman's job.
>I'm not saying I deserved better. I get what I deserve. Again you're not getting it. Nobody deserves anything, and roasties even less. Even the best woman around doesn't "deserve" the worst man around, because she is his inferior in the end. So enough of this self-pity.
>How do I become a man? A good step is to get a real man's job. That means no office jobs and similar shit where you sit on your ass all day and don't do any physical labor, and then waste money and time at the gyms trying to make for the fact you're essentially doing women's work with all the other nu-males.
Sebastian Sanders
Work in an oil field. I'm presuming that you maybe live in scandinavia, maybe Norway. Do some manual labor type job.
Jeremiah Cox
Get fit and start doing a physical contact team sport like american football Also start doing some sort of martial arts so you get self confidence because you can defend yourself Sport releases testosteron just start doing sport
Lucas Kelly
Read a book on someone you admire and emulate. Since you lack the cognitive ability to critically assess what people say this is your only choice until you develop the facets to actually agree/disagree with (((society)))
Brody Long
I know this sounds like a Jow Forums meme. It will boost your testosterone which will alter your behavior and make you act more masculine. Don't fight against it, just go with it (as long as it doesn't involve beating people up).
Samuel Taylor
>mfw people in current times are both emasculating men and giving women the complete freedom to chase Chads Recipe for disaster right there.
Isn't this one of the things that characterizes and signals the fall of a civilization?
Martial arts are fine, but organized team sports like football are for fags and showmen, not real men. That's why most of those famous former athletes are literally nothing after they retire, they get fat, ugly and eventually broke from all their failed marriages, not something a real man should strive towards.
Cameron Robinson
>>mfw people in current times are both emasculating men and giving women the complete freedom to chase Chads No, the biggest emasculated men were the ones that gave women the right to vote. They're the ones most responsible for everything after, and even literal cucks of today can't hold a candle to our failed wimp great-grandfathers who thought letting a woman decide the fate of country was a sane thing to do
Elijah Martin
Okay so according to Jow Forums Being a man means
Playing sports Working in an oil field and practicing martial arts
literally what the fuck are you talking about
Samuel Gonzalez
but some men are more desirable than others, would a woman rather want an autist fat NEET neckbeard or chad? True, It is their job to be desirable, but don't women choose their man, not the other way around? On your second point, ur right. I just didn't want to make it seem like I felt I "deserved" better women
I should give it a try.
I didn't mean to put all the blame on society in my original post. But you are right. I have no idea what I am talking about. Thats why im asking for advice.
Julian Walker
>No, the biggest emasculated men were the ones that gave women the right to vote. that and the people who indoctrinated us that everything is ok
John Sanders
Playing sports is for kids and women, not for men. Martial arts is the only real "sport" for men, but it should only be practiced with extreme caution or if your profession involves fighting/combat. Otherwise you're highly likely to sustain permanent brain damage from constant head trauma and turn into a literal retard like for example most older boxers are.
>Working in an oil field It's not about working in an oil field as much as that these jobs are only thing left not polluted by women. Take engineering for example, something that was also almost completely male dominated in the past. Now an average male engineer has to work in teams with 50% or more women, and get exposed to all their bullshit, low work ethic, mood swings, gossiping, lack of coordination and collaboration, MUH FEELINGS and everything else, so in time he as well becomes a feminized shell of his former self.
David Collins
Take responsibility for yourself. >"BAWWW NO ONE SPOON FED ME WITH INSTRUCTIONS ON HOW TO BE."
I grew up in Canada and was raised by a single mom. In the words of the Kinks, I'm not the world's most masculine man (ginger manlet) but I know what I am and I'm glad I'm a man. inb4 "you know that song is about fucking trannies, right?"
Be the person you want to be. If you really feel bad about not being "macho", join a fucking outdooring club, go to the gym, join an intermural, make some friends and have brews with them. Or you know, wither in your comfortable pain and blame the inevitable suffering of life on mommy because Fight Club says so like a fag.
The first mistake you're making in any case is trying to be masculine for women. Changing who you are for pussy is desperation, not masculinity. Don't lift for thots.
Second just talking about being masculine is inherently mastrubratory and effeminette. Masculinity is about actions not words. Don't think too deeply about how to be masculine, just think about the manly things you would like to do and start doing them. There must be SOMETHING masculine you've always wanted to do but never tried.
James Perez
>dont think about manly things, just think about them and do them lol >dont change who you are for women dont kid yourself The primary driving force behind human achievement is the sex drive, be that man or woman, man's need to subjugate, woman's need to procreate and have a family.
There are outliers but if you look at the way most societies are setup its pretty obvious. I'd still not want to be a lazy piece of shit if women didn't exist but I can tell you making six figures wouldn't matter at all to me since I don't have to cater to some nasty bitch whose had betas showering her in money for existing.
Kayden Torres
How many of you fuckers ever learned to chop wood or build a table. Masculinity starts in our superior creativity to roasties, and our superior physicality.
If you don't work either of these things you are literally just a worse version of a female without the benefits of Tits and a Vagina for attracting Chad.
David Nguyen
It doesn't take anything to learn how to chop wood or build a table dumbass, it would be more relevant to talk about fixing cars or understanding how to take apart and put back together a gun.
But again, you have to think about the society you're in. Why would a man, in 2018 bother to learn how to build a table? There's literally no reason for it unless you want woodworking/carpentry as a hobby.
The world of today is focused on tech and connection. The "wood workers" are the engineers and computer scientists, the mathematical minds behind tech and the leaders who bring it together.
If there's anyone dumb enough to think that in 2018, the best use of their time is learning to build tables, I hope they off themselves. Robots can do that shit. Learn how those work instead jackass.
What a stupid fucking comment. I bet your other advice is "lern martial arts" and "play rugby"
Jack Moore
First of all get off this god-forsaken site and never come back. Look up Victor Pride and do what he says. Make his mentality your own.
If you have to work a shit-tier job stay away from retail and service unless you're a bartender or bouncer or some shit. Labor or sales. That's about it.
Alexander Bell
get off the internet and focus on self-improvement. its honestly the curse of the internet, you cant find yourself when youre getting impulses from literally every direction 24/7 see what you respond to in real life, whether its gym or running or yoga or whatever and just focus on self-improvement and balance there is no blueprint to becoming a men because these threads are just nerd giving each other advice. see what successful people your age do and how they do it and what mindset they have
Eli Bailey
I'm taking a class called masculinities. It says that the idea of masculinity and manlyness is all wrong and culturally relative and was based in falsehoods from the 50s. What do you all make of this?
Oliver Foster
Work out and take some cheap testosterone boosters. Not difficult.
Liam Anderson
I'd expect nothing less to come from the mouth of a modern college "professor".
Anthony Ramirez
Masculinity is sacrafice and pain How do you get muscles? You sacrifice junk food and deal with lifting, which can be painful at times To simply say masculinity doesn't exist shows an effeminate mindset, as you believe that because you do not think a certain way, that must mean no one else does This is not masculinity as it is looking for a quick and easy fix
The class is in the women's studies department. I didn't wanna take it. It just worked out that I had to with scheduling.
Jonathan Robinson
>test boosters >falling for the gnc meme
Julian Baker
>masculinity is what looks good on my dating profile >posts fight club
what a sad state of humanity, oh well.
Noah Lee
Testosterone is masculinity. Working out and taking supplements generates more of it in your body, and negates all of the xenoestrogens in your food and water.
Got a feeling you've never set foot in a gym, let alone know enough about supplements to label them "memes".
Ian Clark
>dating profiles Also I posted Fight Club because I couldn't think of anything and I wanted an image so sue me faggot
William Reyes
>I benched 1plate that 1 time in highschool
If you're talking about sarms or prohormones then that's awful advice for a noob. If you mean literal cheap "test boosters" off the shelf at Walmart they're absolute dogshit
Lucas Sanchez
I understand what your saying about feminism ect destroying Western values but I'm a literal comie and want more traditional values and masculinity >economics are completely detached imo
Nathan Smith
Basically you need to put yourself into a position where you can control your environment. That basically involves going to the gym so that you are physically strong, as well as finding a good job so that you're financially independent. If you can't do the latter at least do the former.
Josiah Rodriguez
Yes, sex drive is primary force behind any behaviour, but it will be there whether you think about it or not. If you think about it too much, you will just fuck it up. It will do it's job if it is indeed the primary driving force, you can't fight it, so don't focus on it.
Mason Wood
Kill yourself, you useless fag.
Brandon Stewart
Fucking commie scum, get outta here.
Bentley Mitchell
>Beta cuck basedboy faggot nigger professor working for Marxist kike brainwashing institution says masculinity is wrong and relative Wow, what a surprise.