I don’t get the whole strength vs size debate. If you’re 5’9 and hit 1/2/3/4 you’ll look pretty aesthetic right?

Is that 15^2 or smth?

“Aesthetics” just means have some muscle had get lean. 90% of it is just being lean. Most guys get used to eating 3500+ calories a day and lifting heavy, then they get lazy and never cut and wonder why they look like shit.

1/2/3/4 isn’t that strong and strength doesn’t mean aesthetics. I got to 1/2/3/4 for 10 res each and still looked like shit. You have to actually use your muscles correctly to get them to grow, which means you need slow and controlled reps for some muscles and accessory work for others.

"I got up to 1/2/3/4 for 10 reps each and still looked like shit" lol ok big guy

1.5/2/3.5/4 at 5'6" and I don't look aesthetic at all

>Slow and controlled
Lol
You are right about the accessories in some sense though, the big 4 won't make you look good by themselves

How do I achieve like this if I'm a sedentary skinnyfat/fat shit. I wanna lose the fat first

I'm at 1.5/3/4/5 and I looked like a fucking barrel until I lost some weight. Try going on a cut

I fell for the "haha dude just do compound lifts you don't need that fluff shit" meme for years, when I threw in accessories I looked way better and my compound lifts went up

I'm fucking sick of this being posted every fucking damn day. You need a mixture. There's no "one routine". You need strength to get size. I'm not commenting on beginner programs, advice for intermittent lifters:

>Increase numbers in lifts (typically the Big 5(OHP, Bench, Row, Squat, Deadlift)) following a strength-styled program (Madcow, Texas Method, etc.) that follows a rep scheme of 1 to 5 reps, increase weight in the Big 5 every week by 5 to 10 pounds
>Add fewer accessories: back, triceps, and hamstrings can almost always use more training, whereas the biceps, quads and shoulders don't as much (although bicep training is important for elbow health). Increase accessories by 5 pounds for every 10 pounds on the Big 5 trained in 3 to 4 sets of 8 to 12 reps.
>When you begin plateauing like 8 to 12 weeks into the program (or whenever), stop lifting heavy. Lower the weight so that you can pump out 10 reps in the Big 5 and then do 8 reps. Change the routine over to a brosplit/PPL with more accessories for each day and focus on getting the Big 5 increased in that rep range until you reach your 1RM for 8. During this time, reduce the amount of time between sets to no more than 2 minutes.
>Repeat until 20% body fat, cut, repeat.

Bonus:
>You should be doing cardio no matter what you're doing

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Bulk until 20% bodyfat? that's probably the stupidest thing I've heard this year. That's beyond unnecessary, I'd personally never go above 15% for any reason.

yeah, I could lose a bit of weight

>being unaware of the principle of levers
Manlets, when will they learn?

That's not the main point of the post. Regardless, bulking to whatever point you're comfortable with is fine but understand in order to gain muscle you have to get a little fat as well.

By that I mean controlling the eccentric and getting a good stretch. You really need the stretch especially for lats and chest. Too many guys bouncing bench press and doing half reps on rows

So basically
>get stronger using higher weights and decreased volume while in a decreased work capacity (rest time over 3 minutes)
>when you plateau, lower weight and increase volume while increasing the work capacity (rest time under 2 minutes)

I hit those lifts on a PHUL routine. Although I don't think routine matters as much as the effort you put in + diet.

Strength is not size, high volume low weight reps daily give you the full look
Chink lifters look like noodles and bench tons of weight, you get my meaning.

>pushing his boxers forward to try and pretend he has a big dick
>dick so small its still baggy
sad

we got a dick inspector, boys

He's not even pushing them and flaccid lenght =/= erect length. Plus it doesnt look small
Cope harder sad fatso

not exactly 365 but 350

candito

I've pretty much done no work for more than 5 reps in my 1.5 years of training. I'd like to think I'd be ottermode if I just lost the fat.
1RM 155/235/320/370 and a 90lbs added chinup for 3 reps at 165lbs 5'9.

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Says the faggot ass nigga staring at a man's dick.

You need to lose 20+lbs to be lean buddy

He might not look fantastic, but he definitely looks like he lifts.

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lmao frame he has orangutan arms hence why his bench is shit to his deadlift

Pretty sure I'm not above 15%bf. Making the calculations that would put me at 10% around 155.

That’s an old ass pic, back then he could barely overhead press 70kg or hadn’t benched more than 315. He’s much stronger now and probably looks better if he would get lean

1. You’re fatter than you think, probably 18%

2. Losing 5% body fat isn’t as simple as losing 5% of your weight, you will also lose water and lean mass

Exactly.

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You're supposed to do both strength AND hypertrophy training to utilize both types of muscles

Buddy, you're not as lean as you think you are.

I don't think I'm lean, the filename is literally "fat".

>staring at men’s dick bulges

Stay gay

I've done caliper testing, used the navy calculator and a bodyfat scale, they all put me anywhere from 14-16%. You won't lose 10lbs of lean mass for 10lbs of fat.

Idk why you’re getting roasted you look good cut and you’ll look fantastic

>5'6"

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in theory you can get 1/2/3/4 without any chest, bicep or upper back development

Bump

dude I'm not even him hahaha 18% ?? are you delusional? He's 14% at most. He's just not jacked that's all

How many decades for this body as a 6'6" natty?

Lean bulk

god, she's not wearing anything on top haha

matt chewning hit 1/2/3/4 and he looks like shit cut

unlikely.

>matt chewning
who?

no

...1 plate ohp + 2 plate bench without chest development ..

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6'1 1/2/3/4 not even close to aestethic.

gonna start cut if finally lift the 3/4 this week

my brother presses 200lb and benches 250ish and his chest is tiny. big shoulders and arms.

>used quotes

There’s a shit ton of small dude who can bench over 400 pounds

Look at this asian dude
It doesn’t take a lot of skill to move a metal bar 4 inches
m.youtube.com/watch?v=l84vmuuuHRg