Why not settle for a dominant mommy gf?

SAUCE NAO PLS ORGINANONO

I would say mostly by beeing assertive but I'm a virgin robot sub so I'm unsure how that would play out irl.

Tfw no mommy who sometimes likes to put you in a chastity cage and only let you cum by playing with your butt

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>hurt me
I mean...

Timid and physically small. Ideally would be okay with being pushed to his limits, but I'd settle for a GFD relationship.

>getting built isn't important
For my purposes it is, but I'll take your word that it's not the biggest signal. I thought showing off strength may impress some cute subby twink at some point. The suggestion of being able to toss him around in bed and whatnot.

Well most guys who are into femdom like mental domination, being controlled by a cute and feminine girl, but if you want to be physically powerful then go for it, strong girls are pretty cool but personally I'm not that attracted to them.

you sound great, natural domme.
may I ask, what about that is attractive to you though? Most women don't like small shy boys, why do you think you like that?

>Well most guys who are into femdom like mental domination
Maybe fake subs or something. I only like girls physically bigger than me, the idea of just 'submitting' to a girl I can break is really not attractive at all, i only like the idea of submitting to a girl whos physically bigger and everything. otherwise she's not domming me. I would say most guys are like me too desu

Most guys like you are braindead amazon / giantess fetishists. No girl is ever going to be physically bigger OR stronger than you. Miss Domme can work out all she wants and she'll never be able to throw a guy around in bed or overpower him, even if he's a weak little twink. If you're into that kind of thing... I'm sorry to break it to you, but you're probably gay. Repressing your preference for men.

>tfw 5'6"
Almost all girls are taller than me unless they're a latina. Get fucked, faggot.

>I'm sorry to break it to you, but you're probably gay. Repressing your preference for men.
i love it when guys say this shit. No, liking larger girls doesn't make me gay at all, gtfo with dimestore pysch bs

That isn't real femdom though, you are just a closet homosexual. Guys who are legitimately into FEMALE domination like it because they're into the idea of a girl being so charming and alluring that they'll do what she says DESPITE being physically stronger.

>have to get up for work
>girl shoves my face in her tits
>every now and then check the time and say I should get going
>smothers me with her tits
>give in and forget about everything
>have to use all my strength to leave the coziest place in existence and still end up late for work

That's about the extent of "dominant" behavior I can tolerate but damn, so cozy and boner inducing.

Get shit on sperglord, I'm 5'3
How's the weather up there

>you are just a closet homosexual
again with this. see above.
There is no such thing as 'mental' domination. If you let some little bitch 'dom' you without doing anything, you're not a real sub. You're just a cuck

>There is no such thing as 'mental' domination
Except that's the only type of actual domination. If you just randomly rape some girl you will just be apprehended by other larger stronger men and thrown in jail and raped yourself.

Domination involves having real control over someone, with or against their own will. Sort of like how when your mommy tells you to clean your room, you do it (because otherwise she'll kick you out), and you might complain, but you won't show her what a manly man you are by beating the shit out of her because you respect or love her too much for that. I hope.

I don't think you understand, mate. Did you have a good childhood or something? Men that are into femdom usually had a shit mother/childhood and long for love and affection from a female figure who is larger/stronger than them. They long for that type of affection because they never got it as a kid.

you underestimate how weak i am

>Except that's the only type of actual domination.
This is just wrong.
>If you just randomly rape some girl you will just be apprehended by other larger stronger men and thrown in jail and raped yourself.
I.e. they physically manipulate me and put me in jail, the only type of domination, just like i raped the girl and physically dominated her.
Why would you just run around like some little cuckboi listening to a girl boss you around when she isn't even dominant over you? If you're saying it's because she can get other men to beat you up if you dont listen to her, then you're a cuck submitting to other men. I don't get it.
If a girl is half a foot taller than you and weighs 40+ pounds on you, she's going to be able to easily throw you around.

sub fights are funny

Women are always weaker. You have no idea.

Still has nothing really to do with femdom specifically, you just have mental problems are a bit of a weak retard.

Pic related is real femdom: strong, capable, attractive men being controlled by girls who are smaller and weaker but so charismatic and loveable that they can't deny them.

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if you turn down a fit taller woman than you because it makes you uncomfortable how can you like femdom?

This desu.
You just need therapy not weird sex kinks.

t. femanon

>if you turn down a fit taller woman than you because it makes you uncomfortable how can you like femdom?
It doesn't make me uncomfortable and I wouldn't turn her down for that reason, but it also wouldn't be the reason I'm into her.

yeah i need sauce on this

>Pic related is real femdom: strong, capable, attractive men being controlled by girls who are smaller and weaker but so charismatic and loveable that they can't deny them.
false
false

You are literally just describing a normal marriage. The small weak woman just walks around like she owns the place bossing around her cuck husband. If you want that, just go into a normal relationship.
ACTUAL femdom is DOM. She's bigger, she can throw him around, lock him in cages, sit on his face without him being able to move, you know, actually domming him.
You both are just describing a situation that's not what actual femdom is. It makes no sense and desu it comes off like a girl who's not actually dom wanting to pretend to be.

>he's bigger, he can throw him around, lock him in cages, sit on his face without him being able to move, you know, actually domming him.
You're into men, dude.

>being this fucking autistic and wrong at the same time

yeah what you're not getting is that what you're describing is literally all MALE BEHAVIOR, it is how MEN dominate. women don't act like that, never have, never will, there is nothing feminine about it and it's completely unrelated to female domination.

>Men that are into femdom usually had a shit mother/childhood and long for love and affection from a female figure who is larger/stronger than them. They long for that type of affection because they never got it as a kid

I was raised in divorced household with a strong mom and generally was pretty timid in my teenage years. In combination of reading echi shit where the guy is weak and the tendency for only assertive girls to approach me, I developed that sort of kink. Nothing to do with absent mother.

As I've gotten older, more self-confident and 'normal', I've pretty much dropped it and gone full vanilla.

>You're into men, dude.
again, this is not true lmao address what I'm saying
nothing wrong about it. you're describing a normal marriage and calling it 'femdom' lmao
lol nope.

You guys are just cucks, not malesubs.

Nothing is more precious than a small guy to me, maybe it triggers some 'nurturing' crossed wire in my head, idk. I feel an overwhelming urge to protect little guys but also rough them up and degrade them, and I've had this desire for as long as I can remember. I used to seek out books as a kid containing male characters who were weak, sickly, or got bullied. It just does something for me.

>she'll never be able to throw a guy around in bed or overpower him
I've known skinny guys my height or shorter who have needed me to lift things and open bottles for them at work.
>inb4 he staged it
I offered myself, he didn't ask, but okay. I know I won't overpower the average guy, but there are men out there I'm stronger than. They're also the men I want to date.

>sub fights are funny
You're all cute.

Different dommes dominate in different ways.

>tfw 6'4"
> will never be womanhandled by taller, stronger girl

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>Nothing is more precious than a small guy to me, maybe it triggers some 'nurturing' crossed wire in my head, idk. I feel an overwhelming urge to protect little guys but also rough them up and degrade them, and I've had this desire for as long as I can remember. I used to seek out books as a kid containing male characters who were weak, sickly, or got bullied. It just does something for me.
See you guys, THIS is what an actual, natural FEMDOMME is. HER WHOLE LIFE she's been into being bigger, stronger, nurturing AND rough, she prbably has high test and estradiol, she's probably thicc, etc.
THATS a femdom. Not some 5'2" girl who's just all "tee hee im a domme give me money silly boys".
You guys aren't into femdom. sorry not soryy

Wanna switch heights big guy? 5'3 here

>if i pretend i'm only interested in something literally unattainable i won't have to feel so bad about being a loser who can't get a gf
kys retard

I get it now, you're into tumblr "girls" as in FtM trannies. Alright not plain homo but still pretty fucking gay, dude. Wanting a butch fat lesbian to sit on you is still not femdom lol

Who said anything about FtM, or fat or even butch? You're now just grasping at straws because you couldn't handle an actual domme girl and i called you out on it.

I "couldn't handle" her as in I lift heavy weights 5 days a week and there's no way any woman could ever do anything to me physically, but I'm still into actual femdom

Then you should be going for like 7ft tall girls. "actual femdom" is still domination, it involves physical domination. Just listening to a girl boss you around isn't being dominated, you're choosing to listen to her. And saying "she's so charming!" doesn't mean anything.
Just admit you like normal girls, man, theres literally nothing wrong with it. You're describing the average marriage.

true femdom would be like a role reversed relationship, with the female taking a dominant role with kinky shit instead of the guy. just flip everything with sex , dating , and chasing and making the first move. and thats basically it.

There's no reason to get buff, and being direct / blunt isn't necessarily the best choice either.

As a dom, you're at the top of the food chain. That's the mindset you should have. It's not something innate to women and not traditionally taught to them either.
You don't need to lock yourself into a specific personality or attitude, you can be a classy, lady-like domme, or a spoiled girl, or anything you want, as long as you project enough dominance.
It's like manliness or self-confidence. If you need to act it out, then you're not doing it correctly.

As a domme, giving orders and taking others under your care should come naturally to you. The fact that you're the dominant one is a no brainer. You don't even need to think about it, that's just what you are.

I'd wager it's harder for male subs to be publicly submissive or even hint at it. But you can help guide them into it.

>tfw there are people who think femdom is some petite lolita princess pretending they have control and giving cute orders.
>they cant admit they are just low key dominat guys who want to be daddys spoiling their princess

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Woah there, making you cum with your ass would be a bit too easy. Also that's what you asked, so, no.
I'd be a lot more interested to find out if you can cum with a wand vibrating just below your balls. Then maybe if your asshole twitches enough we can think about filling it up.

>>they cant admit they are just low key dominat guys who want to be daddys spoiling their princess
this is the best way to put it.

>t. femanon
You don't know what any of it is like, kill yourself roastie.

>he doesn't think of women as actual people and just wants someone larger than him to physically restrain him, because he misses how his daddy used to rape him when he was younger
>he doesn't think women can have interesting personalities that make you fall in love with them and want to please them
kek kys

>this much grasping at straws.
Cmon dude it's over

>this much denial
just stop bro

You're the one in denial. The other guy put it perfectly, ill just write it out clearly.
Liking larger women is not a coverup of being secretly gay or some dumb shit.
spoiling a girl is not being dominated by her.
there's nothing wrong with wanting what you want but it's not really femdom.
Not all guys into what I'm saying have been molested (I haven't been, I had a great relationship with both parents growing up as well).

Because they'll either get bored of you and find a new toy, or will eventually want you to man up and be the dominant one. Femdom is nice, but 99% of the time you won't find anything long term with it.

>>tfw there are people who think femdom is some petite lolita princess pretending they have control and giving cute orders
yfw you realize that a Stacey princess ageplayer is infinitely more dominant than some gender-confused tumblr fatty who likes beating men to take out her frustrations and self-hatred

YES. Anything you say, mommy

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This guy is coping hard now. He's in a spiral.

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'Cause I'm dominant and want to be the daddy boyfriend

>having a preference means you don't care about the person at all
Just as you want a qt small domme girl who to love and spend time with, other user wants a big strong domme girl to love and spend time with.
There are many aspects to a relationship.

I agree, I don't think body type is that important.

nah the thing you're not getting is that physical submission doesn't necessarily result in mental submission. even if you find some 8ft steroid freak woman who is slightly stronger than an average soiboi male, and she pins him down, he'll still be pissed off about it and not truly subjugated. that isn't real control, it's just a crime and it'll be met with retribution.
in order to submit to someone, you need to be impressed by them, admire them, be smitten by them, love them. women can achieve this by being clever and intelligent, or cute and charming, or whatever you're into. it makes you want to do what they say, effectively letting them take control over you. this is what femdom is. you being a weak loser who'll let any fatty sit on you doesn't mean they're dominant -- it just means you're shit. a girl like that has no power, i wouldn't even look at her twice, she's fucking nothing and therefore not dominant at all.

Anything? Even if I keep you locked up so long that your dick starts forgetting how to get hard?

>a girl can't be both stronger than him (a small boy) AND charismatic/cute
Hmm.

they can be but he's only into the former and doesn't care about the latter. in other words he's a fucking pleb. his actual fetish is being as weak and pathetic as possible, but that doesn't require a woman or have anything to do with femdom. he doesn't even want to me dominated by DOMINANT women, he just wants to be as weak and worthless as it is possible for a male to be.

You can do all of that with a femdomme girl though. I do not understand why you would "sub" for a bratty small spoiled girl over an actual domme woman. it makes no damn sense. The other guy is right, you're talking about spoiling a princess not submitting to a femdomme.

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>an actual domme woman
...which would be a princess, or a queen, or similar. a graceful and beautiful woman holding power. literally a princess. not some disgusting failed tumblrina man-wannabe.

>they can be but he's only into the former and doesn't care about the latter
literally making things up now. My whole point is there is no reason to do all the other stuff if it's not backed up by physical domination. There is no reason for me to be some cuckboi slave to a small women who pretends to be dominant. YOU are the one wanting to be weak and worhtless as opposed to submitting to an actual superior force.

>submitting to an actual superior force.
you're into men, dude.

YES just please please please let me cum

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>not some disgusting failed tumblrina man-wannabe.
I think this is where the problem is.
Who is anything about fat, or tumblr, or man-wannabe? A physically large amazon woman isn't ugly or fat or manly, she's still a woman just physically superior, and she can still do all the things you're describing while ALSO being physically dominant over you. it makes no sense to sub for a smaller person.

>you're into men, dude.
If this is the only thing you can say after all of it, then it's over. I don't like males, I'm not attracted to men or dicks or anything, I like women, thicc tall hourglass huge titty DOMMES.

>Who is anything about fat, or tumblr, or man-wannabe?
Because that is what a physically powerful woman would be, retard. An inferior version of a man. It's not feminine power, it's masculine power, meaning, you're into men.
Being physically powerful is largely worthless when someone can make you do as they say with just a few words, which happens on a daily basis in your life and everyone else's. If you have a female boss, you do what she says even though she's weaker, you don't just go "Nahhh" and stomp on her face because you're a strong man. Female power is social, mental, and manipulative, not physical. You're into guys. You're into muscular, strong, fit, physically powerful, hairy big-dicked men, dude. Accept it.

Ikr, I hate these "muh mommy gf", fucking autists, making the same shit-thread all over and over

So is the problem that you can't conceive of large women? I don't understand this disconnect desu.
>Female power is social, mental, and manipulative
you see, user, there is nothing 'female' about social manipulation or mental manipulation or whatever. Men are just as capable of being socially powerful, maintaining high levels of authority, being your boss, etc. There is NOTHING about that that's 'femdom'. And in the same way, there is nothing about displays of physical power that's 'maledom'. You're confusing these roles, thinking they're innate or something, and that's where the confusion lies.
I am attracted to females, women, what would be physically described typically as 'feminine' features, but what would typically be described as 'masculine' behavior. None of this is actually set in stone or innate though, and none of this implies being 'gay' or whatever.
By your logic, because you get off to bossy people, you're a faggot because most bosses are men. See how retarded that is?

found it
erofus.com/comics/fakku-comics/kito-sakeru/drunk-communication

>None of this is actually set in stone or innate though, and none of this implies being 'gay' or whatever.
Except it is. Largeness, tallness, strength, all of this is absolutely and definitely very MALE and the opposite is very FEMALE. You're attracted to masculine characteristics and it is indeed pretty gay.
>By your logic, because you get off to bossy people
I don't, it was an example to show you that PHYSICAL POWER IS IRRELEVANT most of the time, especially when it comes to domination. I could beat my male boss up as well, since I'm stronger and more physically powerful, but I can't, because he has other, more important sorts of power over me. See how that works? In short, physical strength has nothing to do with domination or control. It is something mental.

>pretty gay
If I'm attracted to small men am I a lesbian, then? Even though I like penises, flat chests, chest hair, male voices, etc.?

>am I a lesbian
Probably.

>Except it is. Largeness, tallness, strength, all of this is absolutely and definitely very MALE and the opposite is very FEMALE. You're attracted to masculine characteristics and it is indeed pretty gay.
How is it male if it's possessed by a female?
Dude, literally the only things 'male' and 'female' are like genitals and hairiness, and I don't like dick or hairy bodies.
>especially when it comes to domination
But you see, physical power is the only form of domination. The only reason you can't beat your boss, is because if you did men with guns would PHYSICALLY DOMINATE you and under that threat you dont. Your submission to them is only backed up by threat of force. Your submission to your little princess is again only backed up by your own choice, it's not real, she doesn't have any actual control. You're afraid of actual submission.
Domination isn't mental either. It doesn't matter if you mentally want to submit when the cops arrest you, it doesn't matter if the citizens mentally want to submit when the army of a foreign power conquers them. True domination is usually not even desired.
femanon he doesn't get it, he's wrapped up in a bunch of bullshit he doesn't understand actual femdom.

>A physically large amazon woman isn't ugly or fat or manly,
except that doesn't exist in reality, and in order for a woman to get muscular like an amazon, she would need to inject TESTOSTERONE, and would get hairy and develop an enormous penis-like clit and generally just be a manly woman

>except that doesn't exist in reality
Yes it does and I see it all the time. Tall thicc (NOT fat, thicc) women are all over the place.

>Your submission to them is only backed up by threat of force.
No, retard, it is backed up by the fact that I want to keep my job and be a normal respectable person and not a raging lunatic. And in similar ways a woman can make it unappealing for me to defy her, because she might leave me, or be unhappy with me, and so on and so forth if I refuse her wishes and demands, effectively dominating me without even lifting a finger.

>And in similar ways a woman can make it unappealing for me to defy her, because she might leave me, or be unhappy with me, and so on and so forth if I refuse her wishes and demands, effectively dominating me without even lifting a finger.
yup, you're literally describing the average marriage. I mean, if you think the average marriage is femdom than you're in great luck my dude. Not even being facetious here, you're going to get what you like much easier than I am.
What I want is a femdomme though. An actual, natural, femdomme, like the one itt.

What you're describing is the average gay porn video, retard.

>the average gay porn video has a women in it
Dude you're not into femdom it's okay

>wand vibrating just below your balls.
now this idea, I like.
Why not put it on the balls though?

It has muscles, tallness, and physical superiority, all the things you're into.

You can cum, but if you do, you have to ruin it for me. Hard and painful.
Or you can keep teasing yourself more. Let's see... you said "please" three times, so let's make it three days. And then you can cum as hard and as much as you want. I'd even watch you, and let you cum all over my tits like a good boy. Wouldn't that be nice? Seeing your mommy kneeling in front of you, watching and waiting for you to burst?
It's a shame I met you here and not IRL, cause now I really want to see you trying to stand up straight while you jerk yourself off. I wanna see your legs shake.

>Domination isn't mental either. It doesn't matter if you mentally want to submit when the cops arrest you, it doesn't matter if the citizens mentally want to submit when the army of a foreign power conquers them. True domination is usually not even desired.
So basically if a bodybuilder raped you in the ass against your will, he would have truly dominated you, and you'd be happy. Got it.

It has dicks which I don't like. no pussies or tits and too hairy.
Look my guy there's even a woman itt saying she likes the inverse of what I'm talking about. All you can do is say Im gay and she's a lesbian. No, we're into FEMDOM. Just because you were confused about what femdom is doesn't mean the people into it are gay.

THANK YOU PROJOFPA

>he would have truly dominated you
yes
>and you'd be happy
No
You anons are really grasping at straws.

>physical power is the only form of domination
this is just the crutch you rely on to solve the dilemma of the domming-from-the-bottom phenomenon
it's stupid, because physical strength can only make a person submit in the superficial realm of bodies and not mentally. so physical prowess does not necessarily imply that the power to dominate can be attained. even when tortured and eventually killed one can resist with one's pride unbroken. if anybody who is stronger than you can make you submit and get you off, no matter how coarse and vulgar, you're just a painslut.
if mental strength is not a sufficient condition for a domme because she can't make your body submit, physical strength should not be a sufficient condition either, since she can't make your spirit submit.
however, you can sort of save face, if you accept that if there is an attraction, however vague that may sound, both physical and mental domination may offer a valid path, but neither is fully necessary. but in this way of thinking, through your attraction, you might argue that you bestow some kind of power upon your domme, and she's thus not a "real" domme. i just think that's very dumb.

>>and you'd be happy
>No
Why not? It's exactly the same as a woman doing it, why are you differentiating? He's dominating you against your will and that's what you want. Is it because you need to be charmed and attracted by the person, meaning, the PHYSICAL OVERPOWERING is very secondary and not that important?

>if anybody who is stronger than you can make you submit and get you off
This desu, this is what he's into but he's in denial about accepting the cock for whatever reason. Really unrelated to femdom.