Ever since I've been hitting the gym, I've wanted to be able to use my gains.
I've contemplated becoming a Police Officer in my country. Pay starts at about 65-70k dollarydoos.
Is this a Jow Forums approved career? Are there any other authority papi's on this board who can let me know if this is a good idea.
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It is a good career if it makes you happy and fulfilled.
>Wants to mindlessly follow advice from strangers on the internet instead of deciding for himself
Sounds like you would be a great fit. Being a pawn to those in power is a prerequisite to be a police officer.
>police officer
it's no joke hard to get into unless you're abo or a woman
This is my main motivation behind it, I've wanted to help people since I grew up. Due to circumstances out of my control I have to wait 4 years until I can study at University for a paramedic's degree.
>wanting advice on a subject from people who have no relationship with me
>not wanting to prevent manipulation in answers based on what they person sees you as/wants you to do.
I am neither, but I'd still give it a go.
It's a great career if you like the world, the pay is great but the stress is huge unless you're in some podunk or really glitzy department. Overnight shifts (what you'll inevitably start on for the first few years) will definitely make you gain a lot of weight, but the police culture (at least in the US) has been moving towards a fitness oriented world where progressive (not in the political definition) departments are stressing you work out and measure your visceral fat...
But it's like being a doctor, don't do it if you don't like the culture, you'll just get burned out.
Thankfully Australian Police culture is very much fitness orientated from what I've both seen and the people I've spoken to already serving.
Go for it OP
Go down to the local station. If pic is related, Aussie police are always ready for a chat. Catch them at a venue or something, get talking to them. Just see what they say, and if you feel you'd be a good fit
Otherwise, think about joining the defence force. You don't necessarily have to go and serve, but that'll certainly keep you fit
Best of luck my dude. Go have a chat to a few officers, they'll be down to help ya
>the pay is great but the stress is huge
Why is the stress huge? You literally can't get fired except "for cause" in most places.
Police officers in Australia, especially NSW, are shit. No one respsects cops in NSW. I for dam sure don't.
I actually work not too far from the main metro station in my city. I've met some really cool people while drinking at the bars nearby.
I was going to do the Defence Force when I was younger, but the contract terms for what I wanted to go for (Clearance Diver or Information Specialist Submariner) were about 8 years, and I was too pussy to commit to it, despite passing all examinations, medicals and fitness requirements. Legitimately had recruiters call me for a solid 3 months, nearly daily, asking me to finalise paperwork and "come and experience life".
Truth be told, had I just done it I would've been out 4 years from now.
t. Mohammed from the western suburbs
You must live a very sheltered life thinking that dealing with the absolute worst and most dangerous members of society by yourself at 4am on their turf isn't stressful. I bet you're an upper middle class White guy that thinks all cops do is give speeding tickets.
Whitey living in the west but works in the CBD
hate NSW cops
I don’t know if there are any real Jow Forums approves careers. Do you know any cops?? Most I met and know have steadily gained weight since joining the force. There’s a lot of sitting on your ass in the car, and a lot of sitting on your ass in the office doing paperwork. It’s 90% a boring as fuck job and you’ll get lazy. Ever meet an older cop? I’m talking off duty, at family parties or at the bar etc. they’re very sarcastic and cynical about the world. If you want it go for it, but you need to know going in what the job really entails. You won’t be using your gains, maybe once in a blue moon, but in training you learn techniques to subdue someone. You also have a baton, taser, pepper spray and a gun. Your 405 deadlift won’t matter in this job.
>t. leb who calls himself "white" so he doesn't get bashed
>NSW
shit taste, move to QLD
Whats the most surfire way to become a billionaire fit?
Inb4 inheritance, start from 0
wallah im white
probably, i visited family in QLD a couple of times and its much better than NSW
A 405 Deadlift would help wtf are u talking about.
Knowing technique + strength is better than just knowing the technique
>Pay starts at about 65-70k dollarydoos.
That's surprisingly good.
I guess you do have to deal with abos and meth heads all day though
mfw if you have a bachelor's, PDs in my area start in the high $80k range.
Tempting.
Invest a million dollars in bitcoin in 2015
The aussie police force has long since learned that the only way to get a decent calibre of candidate is to pay out the nose for it. Pay mall cop rates, get mall cops.
>Paramedic degree
What about going for something in the field until then? Get some experience as EMT. It's better than gold if you really wanna be a Paramedic. Experience is like 70% of your knowledge when it comes to that kinda jobs.
T. Combat medic in my country, served the local emergency health service voluntarily as well
My uncle has been a cop for almost 40 years now.
He has always been the weirdo in the family who doesn’t get along with anyone and isn’t on speaking terms with anyone.
It’s interesting how he managed to stay a cop having such shitty social/relationship skills. He literally became estranged with his brother in law because his brother in law wouldn’t give him a house (his bro in law is a multi millionaire with a dozen houses).
So he basically had a problem with everyone in the family. It’s not like th family is anti cop or criminals or anything, it’s all law abiding white collar professionals, teachers, lawyers, doctors etc
In Australia you require a degree for any health related positions, even through the military.
>Most I met and know have steadily gained weight since joining the force.
The stress, the overnight shifts, the eating in a hurry... there's a reason the donut meme came about, unless you bring a cooler with healthy snacks and Tupperware meals it's hard to eat in a busy department when you have to drop your meal and run every other night.
>It’s 90% a boring as fuck job
More like 50%, depends on your personality and how much you actually want to improve the area you patrol, but there are shitbags that hide out and only respond to stuff that would get their supervisors on their ass if they don't do something. Depends on your style, I'm always out talking to people trying to get to know the neighborhoods I patrol.
>Ever meet an older cop? I’m talking off duty, at family parties or at the bar etc. they’re very sarcastic and cynical about the world.
The world of policing in the 80s/90s is a radically different world than now, the concepts of verbal judo, emotional intelligence and community policing are relatively new in policing (recently revived in many areas due to really bad press in recent years) and the old style used to be "if you're a huge prick and take control of every situation, nobody will get the jump on you" which made people incredibly bitter. Policing is done differently now and I hate working with older cops that fucking escalate everything for no reason. They used to teach in most academies until recently that "cops are warriors and it's you versus the entire world out there!". Obviously the "drug war" is to blame for all that faux-military bullshit.
>You won’t be using your gains, maybe once in a blue moon
Depends on your area, I'm in the hood, everybody runs in the hood. I chase someone at least once a night. Especially on Friday nights.
>Your 405 deadlift won’t matter in this job.
Strength is always useful but if your plan is to be more fitness oriented, there's always SWAT.
Me personally, I'm gunning for detective school.
you fucking 3rd world poorfag. police are nice as hell up on the northern beaches
Sounds like me, apart from wanting a house from my bro. Maybe I should be a cop instead of this nurse shit
I can't imagine being a police officer is a fulfilling job. The hours are tough and the work is hard, so I doubt you'll feel like working out much after your shift. Not to mention the fact that it's a job that actively discourages you from having your own opinions and agency. It's a pretty cuck job when you think about it.
Most of fit doesn't have a life outside of lifting anyway desu
>actively discourages you from having your own opinions and agency
Compared to what? You have a massive amount of discretion and you basically do the job in the style you want. Most jobs require to do things as per a very strict SOP. I never give tickets for speeding/traffic stuff unless I keep running into the guy... a warning is almost always enough if you know how to scare people a bit. I got into policing later in life (got hired in my 30s) and it's by far the job that lets you do things most your own way. Sure maybe if you're an artist or something sure, but most of us working stiffs have to follow very strict way of doing things for everything.
This. Took my mate 4 years, basically no explanation from the police as to why. He did everything they asked, even had his belly button surgically fixed, but they kept delaying him.
Eventually got in though.
>most of fit
>lifting
Typically the reason they drag things out without specific reasons is that the person scored highly enough to pass but not highly enough to make it into the top X candidates. They'll keep you spinning your wheels until either you improve enough or the talent pool thins out enough to put you there. If you don't give up first.
It's the same with firies, complicated by them being a mix of volunteers and pros.
Coppers only want to hire five-foot, 50kg shitskin women these days.
Computer Scientist
that's quite alot of hebrew
Become an EMT and split 300ish rack pulls with your partner all day.
Those are just for the image PC bullshit, men are doing all the heavy lifting. At least here in the states even with the diversity hires it's mostly White men who thrive in this world. As far as females go, you have the dykes that are usually bros, can't complain, most hide their whole shifts but you get a few girls that want to show off how "badass" they are and escalate bullshit for the thrill and require backup since they write checks they can't cash. Still remember going to a domestic abuse and the female calling the guy a "nigger"... they were black, the whole neighborhood is mostly black, I'm White and she looks White (she's actually latina but you can't tell)... so I had to spend almost half an hour deescalating a situation that was going to be resolved before miss lil' tough girl made it a fucking problem (ended up having to cuff the guy until he calmed down even though I should've cuffed her). I reported it to her supervisor but so far nothing.
That being said, despite them being shitbags, most female cops they're hiring nowadays are fucking hot.
Australian police force tends to hire attractive women for virtue signalling and tall males for busting heads. I'm not sure if they would hire me (170 cm manlet).
lmao what kind of world you live in that you can just go to the police station to apply?
>tfw tried to become a cop
>passed every test except the last one (psychological)
i wish I lied about myself and wasnt this honest
doctor
Well it is from The Hebrew University
Pretty much, reason why i cancelled my application. Pay is shit, you are taxed unlike the military (good idea fuck heads),only good thing is permanent job, hours, and sick, holiday, etc..
Otherwise it's a mundane job, and you deal with meth addicts and domestic abuse cases 98% of the time. Another thing that turned me off is how soft the cops are here, especially in Melbourne.
People step all over them, don't do as they ask and they don't do jack shit.
They unironically have diversity quotas so if you're a white male you're gonna need to be top of the class to graduate both physically and psychologically so it better be something you really want
If you´re really fit, the army would be a better choice imo. From my experience with people on this board (or Jow Forums in general) I don´t think any of us should be in a position to "serve and protect", but you do you.
So what? similar goes with the defense force except it's based on your sex, they have a female quota. There was a massive backlash about it as well, since they were rejecting men upon men for simply being "men" even though they applied for combat positions.
Australian government is fucked in the head.
Police officer from Europoorish country here. The salary is around 14k a year, which is average here. I'd say that in my country its irrational choice for a career unless you really like the job. The money you get is not worth all the shit you have to go through daily.
The night shifts are total gain goblins due to fucking up your sleeping and eating patterns.
Right now I'm aiming to go to the SWAT unit, where the job is more interesting, less night ours and more physical activity during the working ours + the extra pay(I guess about 10% salary raise).
Australian military gets taxed, it's only the reserves that aren't taxed
I've posted what I do before. I'm a technical writer. I sit and read engineering documents all day and edit them because engineers are fucking retarded and don't know how to write properly. It isn't Jow Forums by any means, but it is /lit/ approved. I promise you, you won't even feel dumb again.
Perks:
>easily start out at $60-80k depending on the state
>no college degree required
>no one ever bothers you because you are editing documents all day
>can just put in headphones, listen to music, whatever
>gaining good writing skills, good verbal skills, etc.
Cons:
>god help you if you're tired or hungover from the previous day
>stare at a computer screen 8hrs a day
>sometimes reading the same 100 page document a million times
>normies don't understand it takes time to read and write (protip: save up a bunch of short documents like 3 to 10 pages and when some normie comes and asks you why you haven't done anything for a week just let a few of those fly out)
Anyways, you won't use your gains with this job. But, if you got no degree, and you're making this kind of money, you can't beat that.
Example job and "qualifications"
lmao nigger dabbed his own ass.
>Australian military gets taxed
No they don't you retard, i served.
You clearly don't understand how tax works then retard. Only reserves are untaxed because they're at a lower rate.
You either didn't serve, or you're a fucking braindead infantry.
Is this eastern Europe like Estonia or Poland or some shit?
I'm a defence contractor and reservist and have been told by defence members across both army and air force that they do get taxed.
There are also tax return services specifically aimed at adf members, would be a pretty stupid business if they didn't get taxed.
firefighter is the most /fit career
yes they do you retard, the tax man rapes diggers, especially when they spend a lot of time out field. The only time you don't get taxed is when you're on deployment or in the reserves.
Well guessed.
What did you say wrong?
She's pretty cute desu and I don't even like white women.
Is wildland firefighting as cool as it looks?
Yes, its actually great fun and physically demanding. Honestly the hardest thing I found was having to learn to drink obscene amounts of water so I don't dehydrate.
You'll literally be signing your consciousness over to them, enjoy it you order following faggot.
Software engineer - make lots of money, lots of time to work out during long lunches, date women half your age because you're rich smart and good looking, by being fit you automatically mog all your nerd coworkers.
wtf site is this?
>emotional intelligence
literal antonyms
Awesome. Got a taste for it prescribed burning with a conservation corps and have wanted to do wild land ever since.
Does the obscene amount of overtime make for a decent paycheck?
More likely some upper-middle class northern suburbs cunt who HATES COPS because he's deathly afraid of getting caught with caps on his persons.
I want to do infantry in the marine corps but my mom said she'd jump off a cliff if I signed up for 0311. does anyone know any similar MOS that doesn't sound like combat but will have a chance at seeing combat?
That photo was taken in Townsville. Easily one of the shittest cities in Australia.
op legitimately come to the northern territory and you can be making close to 200,000 working as a copper
>Does the obscene amount of overtime make for a decent paycheck?
In Australia the overtime we get for working fire-lines can be huge, because large campaign fires can for weeks if not months. I'm assuming from the conservation corp statement you're in America, but I doubt the overtime pay would be any different. Plus you get fed (normally) on the fire-lines for free too so you will save money, the meals are usually good too.
Plus if you for whatever reason decide you want to switch over to structural stuff you'll be miles ahead of other applicants, who will probably have zero firefighting experience.
you can make bank in rural areas like townsville where abos are causing a lot of crime, put in a couple years then join up the AFP and go somewhere nice
>Rural
>Townsville
pick one
If you want to help people then don't be a fucking cop. Everyone sure appreciates the help when you're salaried off their tax dollars to sit on your ass and hand out speeding tickets all day.
Now try joining any of the good Defence Force roles or Intelligence. Intelligence is a real doozy because they don’t tell you why you were refused or any comments, at least Defence give you feedback.
Yeah I worked with the US forest service for a while. I was a wilderness ranger not a firefighter but I knew a lot of firefighters. They get housing, food and per diem and overtime and make enough they don't have to work all winter. What was really cool about the FS is they could also work doing different things for the FS if they weren't called up for a fire. They could work as rangers or marking timber or whatever.
I'm lying to myself about engineering school. I should be in the woods.
Thanks user. /out/ autistically shrieks anytime it’s brought up.
But yeah in America, so it’ll be a bit different.
Which state? I applied for SAPOL and have been told by multiple people, including the lady I handed my application forms in to, that it can take over a year for them just to read your application. Go for it if you want, but just make sure you're committed because if you don't get in you have to wait another 12 months to reapply which potentially means another ~2.5 years of waiting.
Police officer in Milan (Italy) here
Professional fulfilled and income slightly above the national average for people my age. Lot of day off too.
It even helps me stay fit because I mostly stand up and walk around (though the gun weight on the waist is a bit unsettling, you have to counter with something else on the other side of the belt)
>all cops do is give out speeding tickets
I don't know where this meme even comes from. Maybe a state trooper but local cops?
I'm currently in the recruitment process of the NSW police force,
it's tedious as fuck and theres many ways i can be kicked out or set back, and that's just to get into the academy.
But i know it'll be worth it in the end
Lots of local cops give out lots of speeding tickets. Do you genuinely never see normal police cruisers with someone pulled over, or police cars staked out to catch speeders?
Polite sage because I'm sure this is a shitpost
>everything is a meme!
I currently serve and i get taxed
if you got deployed overseas, the money you earned there was taxfree
but even thats changing now
I am a local cop. I don't give out tickets, except for one constant repeat offender... there's too much serious crime out there. But just because cops do that sometimes, doesn't mean that's ALL THEY do, which is what people (usually upper middle class White people) think.
This. I've been contemplating leaving my career field after I graduate (BS in electrical engineering) to become a Firefighter.
>starting salary is the same (BIG city)
>even late game salary is the same
>100x more Jow Forums and chad
>no degree required, but it helps to get hired
>roasties love it and want to show you off to their friends
>makes pussies wet
>probably more fulfilling and more comfortable hours/days off, than being a desk jockey
Tough decision, lads. Because I feel I should have decided sooner instead of wasting my time and effort in this (god tier meme) degree
I'm an English teacher.
JUST
Stop breaking the fucking law and you won't have any issues, nigger
D-d-do you not think crime exists? In my area with the opioid crisis going on robberies and burglaries is literally the highest it's ever been.
>but it's my right to drive like an asshole! Nobody can tell me not to do that!!!!
>fishing for drowners
>dragging out pieces of people from car crashes
>comfortable hours means having a shift on new years eve
>working in public sector means being a desk jockey anyway
Its not only about taking down cats from trees and taking nice photos while fuckin jacked af user
airline pilot, makes you fat but makes pussies drip
Any UK cops here?
Yes, what's up?
So you’ll bust your ass in the academy fueled by your ideals to help others, belonging to a brotherhood, and lets be honest who doesn’t enjoy the power.
Then about six months into the job you realize you aren’t helping people in a traditional sense like stopping bad guys. You’re helping by ticketing and pulling over people speeding and other stupid shit. Yeah they deserve to be punished for breaking the rules and for putting others at risk. Soon getting hated by kids speeding to class and moms doing whatever because they’re late will get to you. Appreciation for you is few and far between. You’ll rely on telling yourself this is for the betterment of the community.
Good thing you could pass all those PT tests to sit in a car all day. Glad I went through all of this to write reports constantly.
Then when your guard is down which it will go down sometime. A random Person for a gang or regular old cop hater will try and attack you. If you somehow survive you’ll then be stuck most likely in a us vs them mentality and any sense of apathy for people you deal with will most likely be gone. Soon all you’ll only hang out with other cops which are typically just as miserable as you. Your SO won’t understand your job either and you’ll eventually stop coming to her for support. Least when she leaves you’ll have the uniform to get all the pussy you want.
Also suggest watching this.
What? Could you please point out in which part of my post caused you to interpret
>lots of police officers around my region constantly have people pulled over likely for tickets
as
>crime doesn't exist!
>3 hours late
Yeah I'm retarded for responding too.
Try to be a firefighter. Electrical engineering are not in align with your goals.