Imagine living in a country where 2068 people have been shot by armed maniacs since 2007

I imagine it being something like this
youtube.com/watch?v=8avMLHvLwRQ

Don't see you bitching about black on black crime or even black crime in general though.

Imagine living in a country where 2,068 people is such an incredibly miniscule percentage of the population that you'd have to use scientific notation to describe it.

Because I'm not talking about black on black/ gang crime, im are talking about active shooters. Both are issues that require attention.

Because the US has a lot of guns proportionate to many other nations. If you weren't being a disingenuous little cunt, you'd be looking at statistics on overall spree killings rather than focusing on the ones that make the US seem worse.

How many people died in the worst US shooting? Paddock got 58 people last year, which isn't close to stuff like Nice, at 86 dead. But I guess that doesn't count because people got run over with a truck rather than shot?
>en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nice_attack

He was a major weeb. He Photoshopped some symbol from an anime called Berserk over people's faces.

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>2,068 people

>30% of mass shooters

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>Because the US has a lot of guns proportionate to many other nations. If you weren't being a disingenuous little cunt, you'd be looking at statistics on overall spree killings.
> Procceds to compare to single incidents as if they illustrate a wider trend

Yes the Nice Attack Killed many people, but large scale terror attacks like that dont happen every year, unlike mass shootings in the US. Those terror attacks, including Charlie Hebdo and the paris attacks took place during a few years when islamic terror became more common in Europe. In contrast the US has a consitantly high number of mass shootings compared to countries like france ever since they started increasing after Virginia Tech in 2007.

Yeah you don't care though. Don't act like you do. You'll be getting no brownie points from anyone here anytime soon.

Of course i care about urban crime, but you cant use that to divert from the entirely different issue of active shooters.

>when you get called out and you pull some complete lies out of your ass and expect anyone to take your seriously afterwards
I guess I should have known better than to expect honest debate from a shill.

population of 350,000,000

I hope i havent provided any incorrect information, if i have please feel free to point it out and i will revise my conclusions.

You act like this happens on the same scale as that though. I doesn't. Nonwhite crime happens more frequently than public shootings by a long shot. But you don't hear the news talking about it. Nah that'd be racist to point it out but yeah,that white guy? Yeah it's cool to just lump up all those whites as psychopaths and public enemies.

>2068 people dead in the past decade
>in a country of 325 million
>yfw this is roughly 0.0000064% of the population
>pretending that you're legitimately concerned about this and not just using it as an excuse to push your agenda
In 2016 ALONE, over 10,000 people were killed by drunk drivers. Over 25% of all crash fatalities are caused by drunk drivers. Do you see how stupid you are? In a single year, five times as many people are killed by drunk driving alone as have been killed by shooters in the past decade. And this isn't even counting all the other alcohol-related deaths, domestic abuse worsened by alcohol, and so on.

Guns have some positive uses, like self defense. There are no positive uses for alcohol. If you really care about human suffering, why aren't you out lobbying to ban alcohol?

Because he isn't paid to do that. Hell he probably isn't even getting paid he is just doing it for fun or out of spite of white people in general.

Do you have the entire verified list that you have personally checked? Or is that just something you read in the "news" and are now uncritically passing off as fact?

I do in fact, unless the FBI is """"""fake news""""""""
fbi.gov/file-repository/active-shooter-incidents-2000-2017.pdf/view
My number takes into account incidents from 2007 onwards and includes incidents from 2018, which do not appear on the FBI list since that only lists incidents from 2000 to 2017. I have caculated this numver myself from the FBIs numbers

Also just so you know an active shooter is defined by the Department of Homeland Security as "an individual actively engaged in killing or attempting to kill people in a confined and populated area; in most cases, active shooters use firearms and there is no pattern or method to their selection of victims."

Nobody cares. Either respond to or admit that you're just another shill.

Of course drunk drivers cause more deaths than active shooters and of course active shooters kill an insignificant amount of people relative to the total population, the US is not a literally warzone. The problem is that over 2000 people have there lives ended or ruined due the actions of someone who should never had access a gun, regardless of its postion to the relative population, over 2000 is alot of people and way to high. The number should be 0, or at least not disproportionately high compared to every other developed country in the world.

Ha just noticed a really fucked up the grammar and spelling on that one.
> inb4 its their not there lol

Glad to see someone's actually done their own research, even if you're blowing the issue out of proportion. It's funny because hearing the way anti-gun activists go on about it, it sounds like there's this massive epidemic of shootings and I assumed there was at least a grain of truth to it. But really as shows, that's not the case when you factor in the population.

Even if you more than double that number of victims to 5000, you're still looking at a 0.00154% chance of being caught up in a mass shooting event in that 17 year period.

I agree woth you on that, its not and epidemic nor ia it the number one issue facing the United States today. It is however an issue that has cost thousands their lives, which although not significant to the total population, is signifigant in the fact it is much, much, much larger than any developed countries which have made efforts to address the same issue. Although i understand the argument that it is small relative to the popualtion i think that 2000 is to many without action being taken to address the issue.

I see what you're saying, any deaths by gun violence are too many deaths. It doesn't matter how many small the number, even one death is too many. So if reducing deaths is the goal surely there are much more important things to tackle.

According to the CDC, alcohol caused 88,000 deaths between 2006 and 2010, so about 22,000 people lost their lives per year. That's a much higher number in a much smaller amount of time, so why not campaign on bringing back prohibition if saving lives is the one and only consideration?

Thats exactlly correct i could do that, and i could also work on the active shooter issue at the same time, its possible to work on more than one issue at a time. As i said, it is not an issue that is as big as car crashes or alcohol, it is still an issue that deserves some amount on attention. I do however respect how civil and rational you are in debating, its a rare thing to find now days.

I suppose we'll have to agree to disagree.

But kudos to you too, people who actually look at the numbers and reports are an increasingly rare breed. Even if I don't agree with your conclusions, I respect the fact you're doing your own proper research into the issue.

I'm still keeping my guns OP, you can trust the government to protect you if you want.

You mean Pakistan? Yea, it sucks.

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