Here's a thought: depression isn't a real thing. It's just an excuse

My imaginary friend owes me $10 because you said that.

Im a normie fag the thread.

Real depression has NOTHING to do with your circumstances in life as well.

they/we an hero as its logical.
why live hating life and yourself...

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So depression isn't real, but people kill themselves because they hate life and themselves.

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where are you goin

People are idiots, as you proved by your post.
Suicide is an escape, a coward's way out. Misery sucks less than death, and if you're not a failure of a human being you can make misery tolerable. If it isn't then it might be caused by mental illness, but not necessarily depression but for example schizophrenia.

ITT: OP is a fag, and does not understand brain chemistry.

Holy shit.
WE NEED TO TELL THEM
MILLIONS SAVED

Pepes*

Please don't abuse the apostrophe.

>If it isn't then it might be caused by mental illness, but not necessarily depression but for example schizophrenia.

If suicide isn't nessecarily caused by depression, it implies that you believe that its SOMETIMES caused by depression. If you didn't believe that suicide was sometimes caused by depression, you wouldn't have hedged what you said with the word "necessarily".

You're LARPing poorly and clearly don't even believe your own argument. How can we convince you that you're wrong when you're not even honest with yourself about what you really believe?

on the contrary, depression has everything to do with your circumstances in life

it is your circumstances which shape your world view, ideology, and ways of thinking
if, you are being a retard led astray by ideologues and feeling sorry for yourself, you might romanticize "depression" and suicide. But, since you haven't done it yet, you're just a phony. Depression is your way to escape responsibility for being a loser, and give your suffering meaning - it makes you feel good about yourself

oh yes, semantics and projecting, I surely will bother with a response

Yes depression responds to changes in your life and psychiatry/psychology has a bias towards seeing your problems as a brain issue when depression can easily be framed as a problem caused by external stressors acting upon a normal brain.

However anti-depressant drugs clearly work for the treatment of depression, even in cases where they do not change your external circumstances. So clearly the brain plays some role in what we call "depression". Otherwise why would the drugs work?

Another example - why is it that you can have two people raised in identical circumstances and one of them will commit suicide and one will not? Why is it that hyper-successful and privledged people kill themselves occasionally? Why do some people seem to stoicly trudge through misery while other people kill themselves when facing less problems? Clearly there is a difference in the amount of external stressors it takes for somebody to commit suicide. A coherent explanation for this phenomenon is some people have issues with depression, and they are unusually susceptible to it, and this is what causes suicide in people who live a seemingly happy lifestyle.

People just can't help notice that you're insincere and are pretending to believe something you don't because you want to challenge your views of depression.

>However anti-depressant drugs clearly work

why do happy drugs work? gee, maybe because they're meant to make you hazy happy, because they're narcotics + placebo effect
happiness is a very subjective thing to measure

>why do people kill themselves
people in bad economic position kill themselves significantly more often, but why some successful people kill themselves too? hmm, this must mean that there is something wrong with their brains that can only be fixed by drugs, it must be faulty wiring :/

>people in bad economic position kill themselves significantly more often, but why some successful people kill themselves too? hmm, this must mean that there is something wrong with their brains that can only be fixed by drugs, it must be faulty wiring :/

Yup.

>depression makes you feel good about yourself

this might be the most autistic thing I've ever read

Anybody can get themselves on anti-depressants if they say that they have depression. There is no test. Sad = here's your pills. Being diagnosed with depression is a small chance that you're actually depressed, even if it's a real disease. I'm willing to bet that if depression were never considered a real thing, it would do more good for quality of life and even suicide rates than what we have rn.

yes

this is called depression

I like that the bee is named "Bee"

You fucking moron.
Science is based on being able to reproduce the same result through the same process, proving that the process provide the same result every time.
Psychology has been unable to do that for decades and is still, to this day unable to abide by the scientific method.
The only reason the scientific community accepts it, is because we dont have any other solution.

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what the actual fuck
originigger

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I got mine confirmed via a genetic assay. Pharmacokinetics also proves depression.

Pls forgive me Herr Grammar Fuhrer

Depression exists as a side effect of being aware that your life sucks. In western society, especially in America, it's seen as a deficiency if you're not obnoxiously happy all the time like some fucking downie so that's why it's considered a mental illness

People who claim to be depressed get genetic tested, and they also conduct clinical trials. All you've got confirmed is that you check the same boxes other people who claim to be depressed check. This proves nothing.

Now, if they found a tumor pressing on the pleasure center of your brain and removed it, that would be a confirmation.

You are a sad piece of shit.
I've struggled with depression for 9 years. People telling me it's not real deserve a brick in the teeth. I have success at work, friends, not a virgin. Yet depression still comes in 1-2 year cycles.

No, but neuroscience is science you complete nigger

You struggled with life for 9 years, boo fucking hoo. Turns out you can be miserable sometimes, but of course it's not your fault, of course it's not your responsibility, of course it only makes you strong and special. If you were never actually depressed that would be a disaster, you would have to start telling yourself another lie to feel good about yourself.

There is only one reason to get mad: deep inside you know that I'm right.

Least intelligent post of all time.

Why do you call your Tulpa an imaginary friend? she's real

of all time? damn

so what medical school did you go to user

Hopkins USOM

Yeah, I wish I could go back in time and tell my younger self depression is bullshit and isn't real. The real world is just hard and fucking sucks, and you just have to get good at dealing with it or fuck off.

imbalance of hormones resulting in significant mood swings is not psychology; it's physiology.

you don't even know when its '' a real thing'' and when not.

My mind is always playing tricks on me. I don't know if I'm making it all up or if I'm actually depressed. I don't if i can get myself out of it. All of this makes me hate myself even more because I can't control my life