Why Everyone Should Do Steroids

>chinese bath oils
except that's not what steroids are at all. testosterone is a hormone your body produces naturally. it's the hormone that makes you a man. why wouldn't you want more of that?

>it will help you reach your goals
thats the thing right there - i dont want any help unless its from another human being
the fact of the matter is that if you use steroids you are literally worse than a fat person because you are lying about your laziness
you can do 15 pound dumbell exercises on roids and gain shitton, but otherwise you'll just get fat (if bulking)
fat people look fat, while roided folks make people think they worked hard for that body, when in reality all they did was put some muscle growing juice in their veins
i'm natty because it is harder, and thats the point
/rant

>except
except it is, what you think you're getting merely testosterone from whatever trash shit dealer you have? unless you have are on prescribed test from AIDS therapy you have no idea what you're injecting
testosterone is natural, but you don't just inject testosterone, most people take a fuckload of shit that is sold locall but made in shitholes like india or china filled with contaminants and severely under dosed

>i dont want any help unless
oh, but you'll take whey protein, multivitamins, creatine, fish oil, any legal supplement to help, but somehow, steroids, a product that actually works, is somehow morally reprehensible.

not him but seems like you're projecting
plus there's no need to inject whey protein, multivtamins or creatine or fish oil, most of those are the literal byproduct of food process and are not comparable to steroids you coping roidcel.

>increasing oxidative stress just because muh muscles
Literally kill yourself you low IQ retard

no way, man. welcome to 2018 where wealthy white people can just order their drugs online from other wealthy white people and receive a pharmaceutical grade product made domestically via mail in 3-5 days

there's no projection here, buddy. every natty lifter on this board takes whey and creatine and shit. Why? to increase results from lifting, whether to lift more or to look better, the end result is all they're after. steroids work better and get you a better end result faster. steroids are safe and just accepting them and doing them will make a lot of these guys happier than creatine or fish oil ever will

What about teens? Can an 18 year old start pinning without dire consequences?

>no way, man. welcome to 2018 where wealthy white people can just order their drugs online from other wealthy white people and receive a pharmaceutical grade product made domestically via mail in 3-5 days

ofc white people roidceling cause they are just too low test to make any natty gains

welcome to 2018 where poor brown people can just steal their drugs offline from other poor brown people and receive a low grade product laced with all kinds of shit made domestically via hand instantly

too low test? no man, this isn't about having low test or high test, it's about having supernatural levels of test.

>every
straight out of your fuckin ass lmao are you even trying

Whey is absolutely useless when you already have enough protein in your diet.
Creatine is unnecessary, there are people that are actually unable to respond to creatine supplementation favourably, not even close to a fucking steroid.
> steroids work better and get you a better end result faster. steroids are safe and just accepting them and doing them will make a lot of these guys happier than creatine or fish oil ever will
t. delusional drug dealer

the idea is that at 18, your test levels are already as high as they'll ever be, so you're advised to hold off a couple of years and keep training. keep lifting and wait til you're 22.

>1.) They will make you bigger and stronger

Correct

>2.) The side effects are so overblown
Correct for some steroids like tren, incorrect for pro hormones, orals and EQ.

>3.) It won't kill you
Yes it can, they elevate hematocrit and cause high bp, with enough roids and enough time you will die younger than you would have.

>4.) It will help you reach your goals
Correct

>5.) It will make you more of a man
Cattle hormones and muscles do not make a man

>6.) It will make you feel confident and superior
No it won't and often times leads to depression and anxiety as side effects and exacerbates any current mental issues

>7.) Other men will feel inferior to you
No they won't

>8.) If you're over 25 it will vastly improve your quality of life
TRT will vastly improve your life if you have

no need to roidcel when you can actually make gains off your nuts

the point is, bro, that 99% of lifters supplement with SOMETHING, and they wouldn't need to if they just injected some test into their ass

test levels basically maintain until you're in your 40's and slowly start going down, this whole age thing is just stupid cope by roidcels justifying their drug use

do you recommend test to recreational lifters?
do you enjoy taking test?
do you enjoy how you look on steroids?
what is your favorite steroid and why?

>why, multivulti, create ion, foilsh, other supplements
i said i'm fucking natty
i eat meat, fruit, vegetables, and work out

>implying people don't take supplements hoping to healthmaxx
This is literally the opposite of what roidcels are doing.
Legit post, just lol at thinking other people "respect you". Everyone thinks you're a low IQ subhuman with shit genetics.

you're technically supplementing yourself with food that is domesticated and artificially enriched if you live in a first world country every single time you eat, see how fucking irrelevant the term "supplementing" is? you can even use it in the context of regular food lmao.

Plus there's absolutely 0 need for fish oil, creatine/whey powders, multivitamins, and it's absolutely NOT TRUE that 99% of people take shit like that, you're delusional, and even if they did it's like eating very isolated processed food.

why everyone SHOULDN'T do steroids:

Both men and women who take anabolic steroids may:

Get acne
Have an oily scalp and skin
Get yellowing of the skin (jaundice)
Become bald
Have tendon rupture
Have heart attacks
Have an enlarged heart
Develop significant risk of liver disease and liver cancer
Have high levels of "bad" cholesterol
Have mood swings
Fly into rages
Suffer delusions
Teens who take anabolic steroids may:

Have short height due to arrested bone growth
Girls may suffer long-term masculinization

>do you recommend test to recreational lifters?
Only if it's something you want to do seriously and commit to staying on for at least a couple years if it's just a 12 week cycle with pct it's pointless unless your an actor just prepping for a movie role or something

>do you enjoy taking test?
Yes

>do you enjoy how you look on steroids?
On test not really but on tren I like the look

>what is your favorite steroid and why?
test as it's the best all round mass builder and has the least sides for me

Jesus the idiocy of some of you nattys is amazing. 99% of you natty fucks on here have no idea what you’re talking about/doing and look like complete shit. You could literally run grams and grams of multiple compounds for a full year and all 99% of you nattys will still look like shit while spinning your wheels in the mud. Correct way to run gear is when you have been lifting natty for years and have a grip on what you’re actually doing. But the idea that anyone can just take “muscle growing juice” and get huge and look good is so far from the truth it just shows how little you know about lifting/gear in general. Gear doesn’t work the way you think it does

Unintentional injuries such as car crash, falls, burns, drowning
Intentional injuries such as firearm injuries, sexual assault, domestic violence
Increased on-the-job injuries and loss of productivity
Increased family problems, broken relationships
Alcohol poisoning
High blood pressure, stroke, and other heart-related diseases
Liver disease
Nerve damage
Sexual problems
Permanent damage to the brain
Vitamin B1 deficiency, which can lead to a disorder characterized by amnesia, apathy and disorientation
Ulcers
Gastritis (inflammation of stomach walls)
Malnutrition
Cancer of the mouth and throat

oh wait... those are effects of alcohol, a legal and socially accepted drug

Dude literally no one respects people who hop on roids in order to make gains, there is a reason why there's a stigma on it.
Keep coping but this shit will never change.

why are roids so frowned upon? why is there such a stigma?

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Because people see it as an "easy way out", it's obvious to anyone who isn't a biased roidcel.
It's also seen as unhealthy and unsustainable and not worth the effort if you don't plan on having a career in fitness/lifting.

“Literally no one”
Literally the people mad about other people doing what they want are the ones truly COPE
Don’t be a fucking idiot “dude”

cause people are stupid and too ignorant to research and try new things

>"easy way out"
people on gear train just as hard if not harder than natural lifters
>unhealthy
only when abused
> unsustainable
it's cheap as fuck
>not worth the effort
a little planning and 2 minutes a week injecting hormones in your ass in exchange for looking like a Greek god... hmm, yeah, too much work

idk the one who made this thread seems to be the one coping so hard he needs to tell people how something that has consistently been shown to be unhealthy/unsustainable is actually healthy and sustainable and totally worth it with no scientific evidence presented and just laughable memes like "it will make you more of a man" and "other men will feel inferior to you".

A) Destroying your body through accelerated aging for absolutely no tangible benefit is seen as absolutely pants-on-head fucking retarded, which it is.
B) It indicates shit genetics as you are not able to be muscular/athletic naturally, good genetics are literally everything in how we perceive value in other people.
C) Gymceling in general is very low IQ and indicative of a shit lifestyle, normal people with self-awareness treat it as an embarassing secret while roidcels are entirely open and in your face about it.

Honestly probably the only reason I haven’t is because I hear your body (see:nuts) will stop producing test on their own afterwards, and that is definitely a risk I don’t want to take

>people on gear train just as hard if not harder than natural lifters
Are the roids rotting your brain or something? Have I ever clamed that they didn't? But people who actually look like they lift on roids are most definitely not training as well as people that make it without roids, because for natties the most anabolic mechanism they have is training, they can't rely on pharmaceuticals in order have a constant barrage of muscle protein synthesis.

>consistently been shown to be unhealthy/unsustainable
>consistently been shown to be unhealthy/unsustainable
oh, can you show me where it has been "consistently shown"?

Who are some of your favorite natty bodybuilders guys?

your nuts will come back online after you end your cycle. it takes a little time, but they come back to normal. you only run this risk when you blast and cruise for years

can you show me any evidence of the claims in the OP besides the first one?

jeff seid

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Mike O’Hearn too, right?

hcg / nolva / clomid prevent / fix this

the jews dont want you to take test so no REAL studies will be done on it, you'll just have to take the word of experienced roiders on the internet

Ok so we’ve got two juicy mfers as people’s top natty bbers. Keep em coming naturals

>brb taking 10 different drugs every day to manage problems I wouldn't have if I didn't roidcel

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why do doctors prescribe steroids to people if they are so unhealthy and unsustainable.. pull ur head out ur ass

thats 3 drugs and 2 of which are oral so a dyel normie like u can take it with his multi vitamin lul

do you realize how stupid it sounds when you said "roidcel"?

incel means involuntary celibate. roidcel means steroid celibate? that doesn't make any sense and sounds absolutely retarded and jealous. besides, I guarantee you anyone taking steroids is getting more pussy than you

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How manageable is the acne?
Is it possible to quit after a few cycles and still keep your gains?
Does it make you age faster?
Do your balls actually shrink?
Do you get gyno?

How long for SARMs to be well-studied?

1.) You'll look like a circus freak
2.) {Citation Needed} from credible MEDICAL sources (roidheads don't count)
3.) They PROBABLY won't kill you. But that's only the worst than can happen. Lots of other things can happen.
4.) You'll look like a circus freak, and you'll have to take them FOREVER or go back to being normal.
5.) Logical fallacy
6.) If you need to inject shit to make yourself feel confident then you've got worse problems than being DYEL.
7.) Wow, just wow. You're really pathetic if you actually believe this.
8.) Wow, just wow. You're really pathetic if you actually believe this.

9.) Nice bait, OP. Unless it's not bait -- in which case I have so much pity for you. :-/

This isn’t how it works at all you ugly little faggot

stay buttmad little natty faggot

natty rage lul

understandable with girls not even noticing you

We’re at the root of why you faggots roid, because girls never noticed you before o i am laffin

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Wow, how insecure do you have to be to risk your natural testosterone production for life just for the sake of temporary vanity?

I don't want to go in the roid thread to get picked on so I'm gunna ask here. How much test should a 5'6 135lb guy take who has never used before? And is everything on this page >reddit.com/r/steroids/wiki/your_first_cycle good advice?

You're good to go, bro

>Dies in a sauna

i'm an 18 tear old boomer that has been lifting for 6 months would you ever recommend someone like me to take roids in the next few years. Also i only have one teste (familial) and have had gyno but got it removed a few months ago.

>body stops producing test
>permanently smaller testi's
>destroy thyriod
>stick a needle in your ass the rest of your life
>HAVE to take AI or you'll turn into a woman

eat a dick (((OP)))

>superior to other men
60% of being superior to other men is just having the attitude of a real man , even if you are 250 pounds of pure muscle you can still look like a little bitch in a lot of situations

Balllet

I’m pro steroids and I say fuck no. You need to build a solid base first

>1.) They will make you bigger and stronger
>2.) The side effects are so overblown
>3.) It won't kill you
>4.) It will help you reach your goals
>5.) It will make you more of a man
>6.) It will make you feel confident and superior
>7.) Other men will feel inferior to you
>8.) If you're over 25 it will vastly improve your quality of life

---powerlift idiot
---maybe you dont want any side effects from chemicals
---implying cant get goals without steroids
---more of a man? so 50 000 years ago there wasnt "men"?
---confident and superior.....built on a foundation of drugs....ok
---who gives a fuck what other men think
---over 25? wtf irrelevant point

yes i am no changing that really had it removed when it did not drop when I was 4 or 6 months old. Test levels are normal and I can grow a full beard and am 6'4 with a 8 inch dick so ill take one less nut over not having what i have now

My thought as well just looking for other opinions.

>How manageable is the acne?
I don't get any acne from anything

>Is it possible to quit after a few cycles and still keep your gains?
You'll gradually go back to the "natural limit" your body has based on your (now likely lower) natty test levels, your training and diet and rest habits. You'll lose the steroid look and probably a lot of motivation to due to loss of strength and pumps so no not really.

>Does it make you age faster?
Reduces collagen in the face I believe so yes

>Do your balls actually shrink?
Yes

>Do you get gyno?
Yes but if your diligent with your AI for estro control and prami/caber for prolactin control if on 19nors your shouldn't get it.

>i'm an 18 tear old boomer that has been lifting for 6 months would you ever recommend someone like me to take roids in the next few years. Also i only have one teste (familial) and have had gyno but got it removed a few months ago.

Did they remove the actual glands in the nips or just take away the gyno lumps and suck away the fat?

You likely have very little training knowledge or diet experience at 18 with 6 months training and your noob gains for the next 6 months will be similar to roids imo so no. But in the next few years I don't see why not.

If you are gonna roid, you better be prepared to stay on for life.

As soon as you cycle off, say good bye to sweet gains.

only reason im hesitant to take steroids is the balding factor. i've got really nice hair for my age, and my father still has pretty decent hair for his age despite a tiny barely noticeable bald spot.

i have a friend who was basically in the same position. he did one mild cycle and quickly started going bald.

The gland and the actual breast tissue. Had no fat under my chest so they did not have to do libo. What you said makes sense i wanna lift for at least a few years before venturing into possible drug use.

it also gives you bitch tits, small balls and zyzz heart but ok

What does Jow Forums think about a stack of trenerol winsol and testomax by crazybulk? Legal alternatives to steroids. Do these work?

the reason i don't is because roid gains would make me less confident than natty gains, and in a way even less confident than nogainz. maybe I shouldn't care but i'd assume I was being stigmatized. you can usually tell the difference and if you're not roiding enough to where you can tell you're not natty then there's not much of a point since you can get there anyway

yeah just like im really curious about how heroine feels

but my life is worth more

Jesus Christ does anyone even browse fraud? Half the posts are from people complaining theyre about to die.

It's hard to get them in my shithole country.

1) Yes
2) Infertility, low baseline testosterone, and high neuroticism are not overblown
3) Look at big Lenny, zyzz, and rich piana
4) Not necessarily
5) it could also give you bitch tits and kill your natural test production if you fuck up
6) Major depressive symptoms are often reported from people using certain steroids
7) not necessarily. see 5)
8) see 3)

>MPB
>Reversible
Choose one

hairlet

Saying "taking roids" is about as broad as saying "eating food".

Which roids?
How much?
Source/quality?
PCT or blast and cruise?
Getting bloods done?
Dosing an AI?

The basic cycle of a steroid user is 500mg trest E with PCT. with bloods and an AI on hand, it's completely harmless and you'll see great results from it. The problem comes in when people realize that they can see more gains with stacks and/or higher doses of test. That's when people fuck up their bodies.

>The basic cycle of a steroid user is 500mg trest E with PCT.
Why?
I've never seen anyone explain exactly why 500mg is the magic number.
People have said anywhere from 150-250 is enough to see life improvements and physical changes and it won't affect the nuts as much and you can come off of it easier.
As for 500mg. I've heard that you can do up to a gram and as long as you keep estrogen in control you're good.

Can you help elaborate on this?

This.
/thread.
Go back to /fraud/ containement.

So edgy

>rich piana

man i didnt realize he died. i come to this board off and on, and last i remember he had broken up with some grill

>cancer is reversible
idiot

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Well.. Far more likeky if blasting. Using HRT/TRT dosing? Nah..