Seriously, I just hate the fact that some guys naturally have charm, while others just don't. (fuck life)
Some girls are hot as fuck, so how do you not lift for them to improve your chances ?
Is it true that once a guy who lifts for girls gets a gf he'll stop lifting, or is that just a meme ?
>Inb4 it's all about your genetics
I have a gf now, but I started lifting before that, with no real goal other than to better myself. I'm a person that likes numerical progress, so obviously beating personal records is a self-satisfying thing to me. Makes me feel capable and confident as an individual I suppose.
It's strange, because I lift not for HER specifically, but one of the reasons is because I believe that you should always be striving to be the best person you can be for your partner, no matter who they are. It's the idea of giving them your best out of principle.
And it also helps with boxing and hiking long distances. Make working out a way to make virtually every other task in your life easier.
>started lifting ~5 years ago to make more friends at high school
>also to get girls
>didn't get girls, made friends
>got a gf sophomore year in uni
>continued lifting
>break up
>still lifting
At this point, I really only lift and run because I don't want to lose what I've worked for. Lifting won't improve your chances for a relationship, maybe a hookup it might. But after uni, those 10/10s aren't going to cheap college town bars; they'll be going to bars where the rich guys are. At least that's how I see it. It all comes down to money.
For me personally I definitely didn't stop lifting, but I wasn't nearly as hungry and was far less consistent. She broke up with me back in january and since then I've been going at lifting harder than ever
spend time with them either fucking them or working with them. In time you will come to understand their nature and depise them. They more or less are all the same with the exception of their physical appearance even then they follow what's trendy anyway (ex balange hair)
In short(manlet) they're : impulsive, lazy, have unreasonable expectations/ demands, barely reciprocate, and are indulgent. Consult your local pimp for more.
I completely stopped lifting once I got a gf
>Tfw she misses Jow Forums me, but loves me too much to say so
>some guys naturally have charm, while others just don't
learn game you beta cuck
this but change boxing to mma
just get a girlfriend or buy a hooker if you can't. Once you have sex you realize its not worth obsessing over
>Job is mostly by myself, don't to to school so never meet new people
>Fuck it, I'm just going to get it over with
>Sign up on backpages, use my signup email
>Arrange to meet a chick in a motel
>It's fucking boring, would rather fap
>Don't even cum
>Kinda nice to just talk to a girl though
>Leave
>I still get a shitton of spam email, even though it's a year later and the site goes down
Just fucking fap. Unless it's with someone you're really into, it's not even that great
Isn't game effective mainly on used up whores?
all women are whores son, you just got to be good enough to bring it out.
>Make working out a way to make virtually every other task in your life easier.
This. If you take care of yourself and have a lot of interests and abilities then people just want to be around you. Happiness and satisfaction are not external.
You're gonna get dumped.
jesus my dick got hard instantly from this pic
>does thing in order to acquire thing
>gets thing
>DOES HE STOP DOING THE THING
Live with one. You'll be repulsed very quickly and then only interact with them for sex. Women are disgusting.
Didn't know this was a feels thread...
the one on the right is actually tiny
you have A LOT of experience with women, right?
What are their instagrams? It's time to fap
Do you think rich guys are at the club at 2:30am showing off their gains for drunk 6/10 girls? They just dangle a Louis Vuitton bag and then girls come swarming to his dick. You don't have to be socially affluent or rich to get pussy
yeah were gonna need sauce on that
you can learn to be charming my friend.
practice makes perfect. just keep trying and you will get there if you want it. try getting really good at something or getting into sales to boost your confidende and the rest becomes a reflex.
yikes, this is satire right?
Your sarcasm just shows you have predisposition that everyone here is neet that doesn't actually get any play. It also shows you are in disbelief about my previous statements.
Either way you can choose to believe whatever you want but the facts will always be the facts. You can ignore gravity but you can't ignore that long falls can kill you. (For those playing at home; you can ignore reality but you can't ignore the consequences of ignoring reality.)
Dubbing the other sex as shallow robots that look for nothing more than instant gratification is a disservice to quality people available to you.
It honestly sounds like a coping mechanism for you to reset your self esteem whenever you are rejected.
Making an effort to find a good person is worth the heartbreak. It’s not women that are shitty exclusively, it’s the surface level of most people in general.
>reddit spacing for an easy read
Girls are a waste of time. Just lift to push yourself and focus on becoming successful. Charm is just being yourself.
That's just a meme, or at least it's subjective. I made it. I have the girl. I'll never stop lifting for me.
Never get comfortable. Unconditional love is something which only exists for women and your children or siblings. Men are only loved for their relative usefulness. Once your usefulness runs out, the love for you runs out.
I started lifting for girls, but after I started seeing gains, I switched to lifting for myself and beating my own PRs to be able to be strong physically.
There's a lot of activities I want to do, that need a good strong body and endurance to be able to enjoy it to its fullest. Scuba & salsa/mamba/swing dancing are my future goals. The rest comes from incremental gains you make socially.
I signed up for an electronic music meetup, there was a 5k event, I went there; I had a choice (when I was getting my shirt to get a tee or a tank), I took the risk and got the tank and I owned it. I wore that confidence, I smiled and had a good time. Met a girl along the way, got her number; got a dinner date with her on Wed. Regardless of what happens with her, I'll keep lifting because I have goals that drive those lifts. Its a positive reinforcing loop, a self-fulfilling prophecy.
The way I see now, is that if you have goals and you work hard towards those goals, are willing to take even the smallest of steps forward and don't hesitate in those decisions; things will work out. Girls like guys like that. To them its "oh he's passionate and dedicated, he plans ahead and follows through--he does interesting things with social value. He likes to explore, he's got culture, etc."
All those experiences add up for you, they give you things to talk about, things you saw, heard, learned about--things you can share with someone else. They're stories. Girls LOVE stories. Stories, experiences that are attainable = value. They'll want to be with you, if not for a relationship, if not for sex, then at least as a friend to be able to experience the things you have. And during all this, you just gotta take those baby steps forward, close the physical distance, occasionally touch, sometimes slip the arm around the waist, etc.
Eventually, that leads to sex or more fulfilling long-term--and if nothing else, more pics for your social prof that you're not a loner/loser. More Value.
>It's strange, because I lift not for HER specifically, but one of the reasons is because I believe that you should always be striving to be the best person you can be for your partner, no matter who they are. It's the idea of giving them your best out of principle.
My fellow American of the Basketball
haha this
>t. me six months ago, after a four year relationship
I just got back into lifting a month or two ago and I'm actually excited to go, again, tomorrow.
best post ive seen on this board in a long time
get back at it, user. i'm in a similar boat, neglected myself the last few years, relationship ended abruptly. exercising/lifting has helped me see value in myself as an individual again. never falling back into that fat slob lifestyle i lived before, no wonder she didn't want to be with me. improvements every day
>Dubbing the other sex as shallow robots that look for nothing more than instant gratification is a disservice to quality people available to you.
desu when you take a look at the state of the world in 2018 it all looks pretty fucking hopeless
Game is useful on all women
treat them as humans. some people are born naturally with charm, but if you practice getting better charm, youll outdo even the chads. worked for me. just look decent (like greater than a 5/10 at least) and have a good sense of humor. soon youll get comfortable around humans and be able to talk with them on the spot that is more than just a dead end conversation.
well what do you lift for when you are over 22?
30 year old lifting for "girls" is kinda creepy
game as in Super Mario Bros or wild meat?
>lifting for girls
What does it matter why you do it? If I told you that working out and looking good gave you a better shot of fucking those hot ass girls why not do it? If you like chasing pussy then just do it. It's a pretty big part of the male psyche. It's not something to be ashamed about. Some guys just really like pussy.
Dat feel when you used to fat fuck. Than you decide to lose weight,join the rugby team,start having more interests,get better grades. You do all this for a year and don't get laid so you give up and gain all the weight back. Who here knows dat feel?
Girls are the sole reason I lift. I'm already strong and I can be healthy with daily running and some dieting. The only reason I lift is to look good and I want to look good to get laid. I cant think of any other reason for me to lift.
Btw fuck all the guys talking shit about sloots ITT. You guys wanna know something from my experience? Guys were always the ones who cockblocked and did everything in their power to stop me from getting laid. You can call women "whores" and "disloyal" all you want but I've been screwed over by men far more times.
Can you guys stop niggering arround and give me the source of Op's pic
>not lifting to because you want to hate yourself less
when i start thinking about lifting so women mire i go fap, sober up and then im rational again
Have you tried reverse googling?
yea I figure it out, you guys are niggers tho so i ain't sharing
I'm on my phone and also not a retard so I can go on my laptop anytime I like and find the source
> started lifting for HER to one day regret her decision
> all career gains, even PhD doesn't seem to overcome sadness
> still doing it for her, who am I kidding :-(
> But, everytime I get hotter chicks mirin me, especially now in the summer, my self esteem goes up a little and my depression down
> Hookups help to overcome occasionally, but I would rather have good male friends, to have fun like pic related
>inb4: lonely loser
yeah that's what I said, idiot. I know
stop placing so much value on sex. nothing changed after i lost my virginity. realize women arent just fleshlights and despite their bodies there is more to them. get used to holding conversations with a girl that have no sexual undertones and you will eventually come to understand that while a fine ass bitch is nice, they're just another human being and their vagina will not magically fix social ineptitude, feelings of loneliness, and a poor self image
>lift because of girls
>lift at gym where everyone knows each other on a first name basis
>finally get girl
>notice my 1RM slowly dwindling
>anxiety of people noticing me getting weak kicks in
>Lifting lifestyle saved
How can you expect them to understand all that if they haven't gotten laid before? Also, do you recommend against using sexual jokes when talking to sloots? What of they find me as a beta orbiter?
>The only reason I lift is to look good and I want to look good to get laid
>I've been screwed over by men far more times
perhaps it's because you're a genuinely nice person and not a shallow self-centered cunt?
>I just hate the fact that some guys naturally have charm, while others just don't. (fuck life)
I have this but I also have a girlfriend for a long time now. I could have a lot of girls. But I disrespect degeneracy so I stay with her
kek this is just men being desperate and willing to fuck literally anything. People here will fuck pigs, just check out some brap posts, always will have someone posting an obese whore with people either seriously responding or just shitposting.
I guarantee I will rate just as strict as women do. I have standards and apparently most other men don't.
i would advise against it. im not a pussy slayer by any means but ive found its best to let them be the ones to initiate that kind of conversation, or at least open up for one. dont worry about being perceived as beta; if you arent, then it will not be an issue. remember, youre a man, and one with goals, ambition, drive, and self respect. you want a girl with purpose, brains, and dignity so don't settle for less. the end goal isnt to get laid here, its to have a quality girl to commit to. sex will be in abundance later
not exactly. it's not that men are desperate, it's that they're not as picky. women are hard wired to desire the Chad since his cum is bound to bring beautiful and healthy kids. men are hard wired to fuck as many females as possible, since this leads to more offspring. coincidentally, Islam teaches the same thing.
>How can a guy stop lifting for girls ?
By realizing it's pathetic reptile-brain motivation and doesn't even work since the women you're aiming at (experienced sluts) poke right through it. Grow up, develop yourself in every aspect just for the sake of development and women actually worth your time will come naturally.
Is that some type of retarded sarcasm?
I only lift to look good and dunk a basketball. Ive neglected shooting and dribbling soo badly the last 3 years my games gone to shit.
The only thing I can actually do well is rebound and out muscle people to the ring. In game dunks starting up soon, cant wait.
Na I'm certain it's men that are desperate.
That's because a 9/10 Chad will fuck 4/10s while a 9/10 sloot won't fuck Tiny Tim. Guys aren't picky because they don't have the freedom to be. You'd be picky too if you could go on Tinder and bang every 9/10 you saw
>natural charm
Nigga wat?
Agree
You dude are embarrassing yourself by replying to blue pill faggots... These faggots cant be fixed. Let em enjoy the whores. If they are happy so be it. Fking imbeciles.
Roastie whore.
That's you
>That's because a 9/10 Chad will fuck 4/10s while a 9/10 sloot won't fuck Tiny Tim.
the "because" is in my post. your scenario is a RESULT of the biological hardwiring I described.
>Guys aren't picky because they don't have the freedom to be.
only if you're talking about Tiny Tim. otherwise they don't need to be picky since they can fuck whomever they want.
>You'd be picky too if you could go on Tinder and bang every 9/10 you saw
I'm an 8/10 Chad and could easily bang most females I know, but I'm put off by the lack of challenge and therefore don't usually carry it past the flirting stage. I don't do Tinder. The constant mires are enough to boost my ego and I've only ever done long relationships anyway.
What the fuck are you talking about dude? The 5/10s here complaining about women being picky would be just as picky if they could land any 9/10 they wanted.
start lifting for men or you'll never make it you fag
the only scenario i can think of where a 5/10 dude could land any 9/10 they wanted, is if the guy was stinking rich. if that's what you mean, then fair enough, but if income is not in the equation, then your hypothesis makes no sense.
It makes sense. When I look at a chick who's unattractive I start looking for good features that would make her fuckable (nice ass,hair etc). Girls don't have to do that because while guy A might be good looking but really hairy and small she can easily find guy B who is just as good looking, isnt hairy and buffer. A peasant like me has to look for the good features of a 5 because the perfect girl for me doesn't isn't on my look level. If I had the freedom to bang a 9/10 I wouldn't be looking for good features on a 5 to make her attractive in my mind
it seems to be a matter of subjectivity. likewise there are supposed 9/10s I don't consider attractive. i'm attracted to thicc girls with strong personalities, while the "alleged 9/10s" are usually thin with zero personality. go figure.
Simps cant accept the truth
Thats because you're an 8(assuming you're not a LARPing homo) and have the freedom to choose an 8/10 thicc girl over a bimbo while Tiny Tim would give anything for a date with either one
>[Tiny Tim] would be just as picky if he could land any 9/10 he wanted
>Tiny Tim would give anything for a date with either one
i honestly don't know what you're trying to say anymore
Having the ability to fuck whoever you want=more picky
Mot being ability to fuck whoever you want=less picky
My friend lifted for women and he stopped completely after he got a girlfriend. He wont start up again either despite him being barely fit helping him secure the gf. Now they are slowly getting fat together as I become even more fit and strong. It's sort of great
I exercise because I wanted to do something for my health. I had problems with lungs and heart/back. I also live VOLUNTARILY celibately so whatever I guess
don't worry about money so much brah, not being ugly and having a struggle/goal is 10 times more attractive to grills than a bunch of money. Millionaires get cucked every fucking day.
You call him a nigger?
Lifting for girls is for them... Chicks rather have a guy who lifts for themselves because they rather not have a guy that insecure. You do things for yourself little less to impress others maybe your life won't forever be a pile of shit...
by lifting for the impending race war
Lifting for girls is dumb
Let’s say you spend 4 hours a week in the gym. You’d need at least a year to figure anything out and really get a somewhat decent body. 1 year is 52 weeks so assuming you never skip
>4x52= 208 hours
Plus diet and sleep.Now if you want a women, it would be much faster to get a girl through other means, such as clubs, dating sites or mixers/raves or bars. You may be able to get a gf from lifting as an improvement for looks, but muscles don’t cure autism.The only reason lifting for women should be a motivation is if you want a muscular girlfriend. If you want a sporty gf join a sport.
>I'm a person that likes numerical progress
This is literally the autism approach. It feels so good to make the numbers change.