Hey /fit. Today i finally decided to seek help for my depression/anxiety problem and i was prescribed Prozac along with Xanax(which i'm supposed to take only as a temporary fix to help me get shit done by killing my anxiety) so Prozac is the main prescription. I have been battling this for over 2 years, i was never passive about it. I have been going out regurarly, working out, studying hard, doing my best to do what i gotta do, but because i live in a toxic enviroment my brain always has background noise and at the end of the day i feel like shit and end up missing out on many important chances. Hopefully this will give me the extra boost and clarity i need to get my i.t. engineering degree (i've been studying like hell but i just can't focus like i am supposed to, or like i could before i moved back to my parents in the toxic enviroment i talked about) and once i do there are some opportunities for me to go work at a few companies, however if i won't rush my life right now, i might miss those chances and i might regret it forever. Does anyone have any experience with Prozac, and better yet, Prozac and Xanax combo? What should i expect?
Also, the main things that scare me are that Prozac apparently lowers libido, does anyone know if that means a lower t score? Does any of these medications generally affect a persons fitness negatively as long as said person keeps training and eating clean?
Hey /fit...
SSRIs can give you PERMANENT ED. Fuck these kike pills.
WTF are you serious???? I'd rather not take anything if that's the case, that's some serious shit to risk
Do you know how long i'd have to be using SSRIs to get permanent ed? I have not started yet and i was prescribed for 3 months. 25mg for the first 5 days and 50mg for every day after. You made me seriously put my priorities in perspective
Don't fucking take them. Fuck that jewish bullshit
The fucking asshole doc didn't tell me about the erectile dysfunction! Fuck that, it's not worth it, i'll just pop a Xanax whenever my stress is unmanagable and take out everything else on the gym. I ain't putting anything that will permanently damage my dick in my system
they can't give you permanent ED.
don't listen to the anti-science morons. if they have an illness, they'll run to the doctor too.
you are ill, take your meds, simple as that. if you take 4chans advice over a doctors, there's no helping you anyway
just looked it up, they can, but the numbers of cases are insignificant
>>I am only 20 years old and last year I took fluoxetine for depression. It felt great for a day but it seriously impaired my mood and feelings and overall perspective of people sexually. It has killed my sex life and I now have ED and I am fighting for my future. I am doing everything I can to find the source of the ED. I want to have kids someday. With my last girlfriend ED was embarrassing and s challenge and cause of anxiety. this was a challenge. It makes me hate life more and more everyday. I don't know if I want to keep going on if I can't live a regular life with erections and the ability to have a good libido and sexual attraction and great relationships with a partner. Honestly without these things I don't see much purpose. I just want to live my life the way it used to be. I cry myself to sleep a lot because of this and I'm trying to find answers but I just don't know anymore
That is what some dude wrote on a forum, i found tons of stuff like this with a quick google search. I'm seriously second guessing if i really need to take SSRI's, at the end of the day i just need a boost to get through the next few months with a clear mind so i can perform at optimal mental efficiency, not worth risking long term side effects even if the possibility is small
I'm the kind of literal Nazi guy who would've been gassed in Germany for having clinical OCD
anyway got prescribed prozac and my body kept tolerating higher and higher doses. Didn't do anything to me really, I certainly don't think I had my T lowered because i'm 6', aggressive and always horny.
How long have you been using it for? And in what dosage?
then you don't need them as much apparently. but you'll all kinds of shit on the internet, do some proper research and don't ask Jow Forums if you should take medication. read the patient information sheet, look at actual studies done by scientists and so on.
there's a lot of people here who don't know the most basic stuff about psychiatry and so on
how about changing the meds if they don't do anything for you. everyone's brain chemistry is different
I'm aware, the entire point of my original post was to ask people who used the same medication how their experiences were and what should i expect based on how their cases progressed, entirely in the form of casual conversation. The only thing that i learned was that it does indeed cause ed which makes me glad i made this post in the first place
take test
what test user?
not even asking if he checked his testosterone, huh
I wouldn't know that you mean Testosterone and i don't like answering vague questions with random answers. Yeah i got checked recently, T score was normal, everything hormone and thyroid related was normal as well.
>Most people who take an SSRI (selective serotonin reuptake inhibitor) or an SNRI (serotonin-norepinephrine reuptake inhibitor) and some tricyclic antidepressants (clomipramine and imipramine) will feel some degree of genital numbing, often within 30 minutes of taking the first dose.
One dose is enough to do permanent damage.
i stopped because i became convinced that needlessly imbibing chemicals couldn't be good for me. I was using it for probably 5 years, sometimes I'd fall off it.
I just decided to ignore my symptoms as best I could. Not super big into pharmacological chemicals desu. After 11 years of symptoms, I've just kind of learned to cope
i wasn't talking to you, i was asking the other guy if he wouldn't want to ask if you checked your test before recommending taking it
>you are ill, take your meds
Okay, Mr. Kikenstein, let me just shovel all this garbage into my mouth when the real cure for depression is to make CHANGES in your LIFE. Depression is a function of environment, change it.
>psychiatry
Another kike scam
Good to hear user, im glad for you. The entire point of taking medication is to help you eventually deal with problems on your own by giving you that small helping boost to begin with, not to act as the solution
In any case, i answered a question that may or may not have been asked, simply another comment occupying space on this thread
>what even is genetics
this is like people not understanding poverty because we can print money. no fucking clue what they're talking about and of course THE JEEEEEEEEEEEEEEWS
in most cases, it's s combination of medication and therapy, brainlets. but there are people who have a fucked up brain chemistry because of their DNA.
you're right, but it's foolish to ignore that the Jews snapped up the industry as predators to profit from it. They exploit the situation for their profits. Trust me though, I'm not doubting what you're saying. Just gotta understand how the business works and that the people who are best at this kind of scheming made it to the top; they look to profit off reality. That's only place real profit can come from. Nothing surprising or even shocking about it. Still makes sense to oppose them and try to clean up the system
Thanks user. We're all gonna make it
Op here. That's what i said in the first post my dude. I'm trying my hardest to make changes but i can't operate to my maximum capacity because of this bullshit and i'm holding myself down, the point is not that i take fucking pills that come with countless side effects as a solution but as a bit of extra help to help me reach my goals faster and with more clarity and then never shove that crap down my throat never again, by helping me block out all the useless stress i get exposed to 24/7 and making all the changes i need faster.
Drop the pharmajew. You can do without it dood
Good anons of Jow Forums first i wanna thank you all for taking the time to post, you eased some of my concerns. Also many thanks to the user who pointed out that SRRI's cause ed, i was just on my way to get the meds and you stoped me. I made up my mind, i'm not going to use SRRI's at all, even if there is miniscule chance of having these side effects, it is a chance that i'm not willing to take, and besides my depressive condition is not bad enough, stress is simply at the perfect level to make the important tasks difficult or seemingly impossible, but nothing that i believe just Xanax in a moderate dosage only when necessary won't help me resolve, i'm not some crybaby whiny fag after all, which is why i found it weird why doc prescribed Prozac to me in the first place, his exact words were that Xanax is for treating the symptoms wheras Prozac is for treating the cause, however the cause is not a random anomaly in my brain, but rather it is being in the enviroment in which i am which is the source of all the deteriorating stress, which i am working hard to get out of. My endgame solution will be working hard and trying my best to get my degree, get some internships, and start making enough money to be self dependent and remove myself from the source of this corrosive stress. Once again, i thank all you anons for contributing on this thread, you helped me greatly
It's a placebo but it also screws with some horomones and brain chemicals if you take it your never gonna make it real men never have time to be depressed and shit
You can correct your brain chemistry via environmental changes. Do you think brain chemistry is some sort of black magic? Something that's just set in stone? Of course it's not -- it's heavily affected by environment. Just like nobody is born a fag, they end up one due to environmental factors.
Jump through a noose, hook-nosed pill pusher.
A study showed sugar pill placebo people reported feeling slightly better then people taking prozac
Look into meditation, add it into the rotation of changes you are making in your life. I would also take up reading, it's helpful.
God bless. Keep up the good work, continue working on changing your situation, and you WILL make it.
Don't listen to these brainlets. I've been on prozac since february and I have been making slow, but steady life gains. My life is almost in order and I'm ready to hop off the meds. What they did for me was give me that little extra push I needed and made me handle my debbie downer days a lot better. This pill is not a work of magic, it should only be seen as a crutch while you get your life in order.
Pros:
>more outgoing
>more sociable, less social anxiety
>looking more forward to completing my goals
>easier to get out of the bed
>became optimistic and smile a lot now
cons:
>It takes a bit longer for me to cum, but no signs of ED or libido issues (still a horny boi)
>made my alcohol experience and hangover much worse
I hope my brief synopsis will help you make up your mind. Godspeed user, we're all gonna make it.
Reading has indeed helped me greatly. Unfortunately as of late i don't have enough time and energy to devote. Can you perhaps recommend me some good reads?
Thanks for the motivation user, but i'm still too scared to try prozac. I will reconsider and ask for a second opinion if push comes to shove but i don't really see myself reaching that point any time soon
Can I ask why only attractive people seem to be "allowed" to get depression?
Like when an ugly person says it it's like no one cares. But when the dude with the sixpack and easy smile says it he gets 100 likes on FB. It's like "you're not depressed you just can't get laid lol"
I disagree with that point of view. Civilised and educated human beings know better. I judge people based on the shit that come out of their mouths, not by how they look. The brain is what matters not what it's container looks like, except if you're looking to have a sexual relationship with said person. If more people did this then the world would be a better place. Unfortunately we live in the age of social media and vanity. Also, i personally find that people who look good, not all of them of course but the majority tend to be complete vain imbeciles.
Also, likes don't mean shit. It's a metric for imbeciles to put a value on the size of their worthless ego. Have the majority of people who actually think that likes on social media mean anything, and delete their accounts. You will be a left with a gaping hollow shell of what resembles a man. They will be no different from manequinns. What gives a person individuality, thus making him a person and not a try hard copy of someone else, is the ability to think unbiased and to think for himself
OP, just look into nootropics. They're amazing, cheap and easily avaliable and work 1000% better than prescriptions. I have experience of this.
Nootropics is a very wide term. Can you tell me which ones you tried? I thpught about it and i might try them if i happen to get my hands on any at some point
I recommened L-theanine and lemon balm extract for anxiety. NALT and ALCAR and Rhodiola for depression and stimulation. There are certain mushroom extracts which are very interesting and can literally repair damaged brains. You should check out the nootropics subreddit and check out some nootropics based information sites.
Honestly, getting into nootropics was one of the best life choices I ever made.
OP. Ignore people who have no experience with SSRI please. You should ask for advice on a depression support forum, not this shithole website of fucking morons who have no idea what they are talking about and believe everything they see on the internet.
>inb4 go away Goldberg etc
I took Zoloft (which is a SSRI like Prozac) for 4 months and had no problems with it. Maybe I couldn't cum once or twice during sex thats about it. It revealed my Bipolar disorder so I had to get off of it.
Before taking these drugs you should take serious research and have tried every natural alternative. These are a last resort. My life was in good standing but I was depressed. Brain chemistry dictates how you perceive things. If receptors in your brain are fucked up, you can literally be sad, lethargic, suicidal, for no reason.
>correct brain chemistry via environment changes
so i guess schizophrenics and such just need a lifecoach, huh?
you don't have a clue what you're talking about and you're embarassing yourself with your onedimensionsal view on stuff you don't understand.
educate yourself and don't visit Jow Forums anymore, you can't take it.
For a moment there i thought you might start recommending aderrall and such. I screencaped your recommendations, will sure try them when i get the chance. Thanks for the contribution user
My cure for depression was a pet. Now, this can be a dangerous recommendation, since a seriously depressed person risks neglecting the pet, but if you are at least a little functional it can work. The important part is less about an animal companion and more about a creature that will require some routine. The days when I wanted to stay and bed and wish for death were interrupted because I would say "At least get up and check on the animal." Over time, this added up and I started to feel more functional.
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some people with experience, some people who know psychiatry and some people who don't understand the world and need conspiracy theories to not kill themselves out of rage at their own stupidity and incomptence of grasping basic realisties
Perhaps if said people managed to change the triggering factors or get out of the enviroments that lead up to the disease, would never show symptoms. However it's not my place to speak as i don't have the knowledge, i'm just assuming that in the specific scenario, the illness could have been avoided perhaps?
you're right that there can be environmental triggers. they are just a factor however.
the idea that someone with a psychological illness "just needs life changes" shows a complete misunderstanding of what psychotherapy and medication are there for.
besides that, if you claim you have the single solution to a disorder, you're full of shit anyway. while no psychiatrist would give you a guarantee for meds making everything perfect, these people make the world as easy as they want it to be.
I have a beautiful doggo, the best of bois. He makes my day without failure. Unfortunately he can't take my advanced maths and evolutionary computer coding tests etc for me, so i still have to study my ass off while residing in a shitty stressfull enviroment because no money to get my own apartment. Some animals are better than we deserve my friend
Let me rephrase. Perhaps if said person was able to remove the triggering factors or get out of the stress inducing enviroment BEFORE the illness manifested, then perhaps it could have been entirely avoided. I believe that such severe cases are deeply rooted, they don't just happen. I hope none of us ever go through enough traumatic shit to reach that point
Also, i'm not the user who said that enviromental changes can cure schizophrenia. I'm not a complete imbecile
yes, that might be theoretically possible. you'd eliminate a factor that would make it more probable for the disease to manifest.
This. If I can "just be positive bro" out of depression I would have done it by now.
Correct. But sometimes these things can fuck up your life so bad they fuck up your brain chemistry to the point you cannot will yourself out of it. Go tell someone with cancer to pray everyday it goes away without chemo
Mine was actually a bearded dragon, and I ended up getting so attached to her it's embarrassing.
Post doggo pics
It's terrible man. All we can do is our best to try and foresee things like that and try to avoid them. The best way to cure an ailment is trying to avoid it entirely, as a saying goes, unfortunately life sometimes can be cruel and unfair, all we can do is hope that we and those we care about stay in good health and no one has to go through severe shit such as cancer, i wouldn't wish for something like that to my worst enemy
Pretty unusual for someone to own a bearded dragon indeed.
>pic is my dog
No problem. There are literally over a thousand different nootropics, myself and a lot of others don't even count drugs like aderrall as nootropic.
Oh and another one I recommend is NAC, incredible stuff, literally "detoxes" the brain and body. This is one of the best ones I've used and a number of other people online agree.
Listen to Freud user: In a healthy body lives a healthy mind. Work out and eat healthy. You will feel better about yourself eventually.
>Oh, these kikes told me I have all these mental disorders! Now I get to act out like a child and blame it on that!
Shut up you weak fag
>he doesn't mind that the kike wants to turn him into a zombie
go ahead and take them
t. don't know shit about SRII's and shouldn't be allowed to vote if this is how they form opinions
Yes because my communication with God is a normal thing when I am in a manic state. Shut the fuck up faggot