Oral-only cycles will suppress your natural testosterone production and are far less beneficial than injectables, so don't do oral-only cycles. If you're scared of needles just admit it.
We can't help you dose your AI, it's different for everybody and there's a lot of factors at play. Figure it out yourself.
And most importantly,
NO SOURCE TALK (this isn't up for debate, you will be banned)
Not sure if this is the right thread but close enough.
Not on any other gear but want to take an ECA Stack or Clen. Any general advice/anecdotes anyone can share?
Lincoln Lopez
Literally Unfroggable
Brandon Gomez
>Oral-only cycles will suppress your natural testosterone production and are far less beneficial than injectables, so don't do oral-only cycles. If you're scared of needles just admit it.
Ive always hear Oral only cycles are useless because you end up just loosing the mass that you put on after you stop, but does it ac tually suppress your natural testosterone production aswell?
Oliver Gutierrez
Yes The suppression is a large part of why people lose the mass after
James Sanders
and because orals are like 90% glycogen gains
Luis Bell
i've got a question: lets say i will cut down to 10% bf while being flat and depleted, i will start eating more carbs again and gain ~3-4lbs of glycogen back. On paper that should get my body fat down to 8% but is this shit actually noticible in the mirror?
>go on vacation >Poud down like 20 sugary drinks a day for a week >lose absolutely all torso definition >Only up 2lb
This means I don't have to do anything to go back to normal right? Haven't been on vacation since pre roids like 3 years ago
Jonathan Sanchez
you’re bloated, drink a gallon of water for the next couples days and you’ll be set
Asher Smith
The leaner you look flat and loading up with carbs should make you look even leaner due to increase in defintion. You'll look bigger, better and leaner.
Brandon Walker
>that one guy at the gym who cuts on low carbs and gets flat as fuck
Lmao like just eat carbs on your cut it’s not that hard.
Ryder Hill
Well how long would you run an oral cycle for anyway? Like if you were willing to do 30mg sdrol for 3-4 months or some mtren I'm sure you would make decent gains but you would have trouble getting out of bed after a month due to liver fatigue.
Depends on your size and just HOW many carbs you load up on. Could go overboard and just look bloated. Generally though yeah it would be noticeable and people do this for beach trips n stuff.
Carter Brown
Went from 193 to 219 lbs over the course of the last 3 months.
Gradually went from 350mg trenA to 700mg trenA and 300mg TestP to 400mg TestP. Blast ends in 3 weeks from which I plan to start cruising at 250-300mg testE. Ate 500 cal above maintenance ED.
How much tren water gains should I expect to lose?
Jayden King
Like at least three
Austin Flores
>How much tren water gains should I expect to lose?
500*90/3500=13lb. Theres no fucking way you gained 13lb of water weight doing 3-400mg of test unless your estrogen is through the roof and tren is one of the driest compounds. Worst case you cant count calories or your kidneys are fucked, best case you got scammed and bough test labeled as tren.
Seems like you fucked up.
Jayden Young
the only thing that im not happy about is tiny bit of fat on the very bottom of my lower abs and im wondering if it will "stretch out" when i introduce carbs. I guess i will cut bit more anyway. Thanks for your answers.
Andrew Hall
Nah, perp chinamans not gonna lie.
More likely scenario is I came out of the last cut too dry with too low test.
Nolan Myers
>I came out of the last cut too dry with too low test.
Also true. If you went from a cut to a bulk overnight the gains seem pretty normal and you probably wont lose more than a couple pounds. If you were cruising for a while though something is up- maybe cut down carbs idk.
Charles Williams
Gentlemen, I'm a little over 5 weeks in to my test 500 cycle. This week I've broken out, lost weight, and my lifts have gone down. I don't think I have high estro. Any thoughts as to why I'm having problems? Everything has been super smooth sailing up until now
Could be anything. Make sure you’re taking care of yourself though.
Jackson Lopez
Up the tren
Camden Howard
My best guess would be diet, any changes regarding to it?
Reflect on all changes, sums it up nicely and it could be any of these.
Carson Ward
I've slipped on my eating and sleeping habits this week.. Just surprised I'm having this hard of a reaction I guess. I feel, shitty and deflated.
Also, if I was to have pinned in to a vein would I for sure know? Or nah. I had a little bit of blood come out of my last pin but I didn't think much of it. If I fuck up and dump a whole shot in to a vein, do I basically lose that one? Or is that not how it works?
Nolan Barnes
Looks like you found your issue. Diet and sleep are the most important factors, even more so then what you're blasting.
A little bit of blood happens, did it contain any oil? You might have just nicked it going in. If you aspirate and you inject correctly the chances are small, even if you do inject in a vein, the loss is not worth repinning over.
Bentley Wood
>I don't think I have high estro. how do you know? did you do bloodwork 4 weeks in? are you taking ai?
pinning vein will do literally nothing to you besides making a bruise in pinning spot
Grayson Ortiz
Thanks nano, I'll keep that in mind No ai. No gyno. Just acne flaring up. Which kinda happens when my body is under stress. I probably just answered my own question. I'm just surprised by how much I'm noticing it
Jonathan Hill
Alright lads I might be fucked. I just started a new job at the hospital and they sent me to employee health for a physical and drug test as expected. The problem is they also drew blood and I've been blasting 500 test for a year and am currently on week 8 of tren 600 as well. I hope they didn't check hormone panel I don't think they would, but they almost certainly will check lipids and see that mine are trashed.
What do I do now? Cut to trt dose test only immediately and hope the lipids come in line before a follow up visit? Will they fire me? Fuck.
Logan Nguyen
>blasting 500 test for a year
maybe you should have dropped to trt dosages for the week of your blood test?
Muscles have been twitching like fuck all over lately. No idea why. Diet and excercise regiment haven’t changed.
Cameron Stewart
Half lifes dont work like that senpai
Ayden Nguyen
Fix yo electrolytes son
Aiden Bailey
Fairly certain they only care about things that would impact your performance negatively, not positively. Things like narcotics.
Nathan Nelson
Yes, however I didn't know I would get a blood test. They sent me the paperwork ahead of time and it had no blood work just physical exam. I mean I'm pretty objectively unhealthy if you just look at lipids. They'll think I have a disorder or something or suspect steroids. I don't know honestly.
Lincoln Lewis
It's what plants crave
Landon Hill
Damn right now go pin some mt2 and embrace that golden photosynthesis
Luis Murphy
>guy pulls me aside to tell me too many women workout at our gym >too many women
I fucking hate this PCT. Coming off my first cycle of Test E 500mg/wk, lost 10lbs already on my PCT and overall feel like an emotional beta bitch compared to when I was pinning. When can I hop back on?
They legitimately won't care. But i would suggest maybe fixing your lipid problem for yourself if not for your job.
Aaron Hall
I opted to just not come off when my blast ended. Ordered up 4 more vials and just went down to ~250mg a week. Lost about 6-8lb since then, but mostly water and fat. Strength is still good.
I'm facing a conundrum here. I'm on 500mg test e a week and recently I've been getting insane lower back pumps. I tried insane amounts of water, taurine, got my e2 in control but the only thing that stops the insane back pump is going low carb. While keto is fine for cutting, it is in no way ideal for bulking. Should I just stick to keto or is there a remedy that someone can share? I have to fucking lay on the floor between deadlift and squat sets, it's pretty bad.
Brandon Clark
Actual mineral salts boyo, get your sodium, K and mag levels balanced. Taurine just allows for electrolytes to communicate efficiently across fibers; doesn't help if your electrolytes aren't balanced.
Leo Edwards
>lower back pumps
lol i remember my first week of working out as well
wait until you get massive shoulder pumps
Nolan Stewart
I hope... I'm on the last week of tren so I was going to cycle down to trt test only soonish anyway, I may just accelerate that schedule.
I'm terrified of them finding out the truth because they're docs and know what's up.
Dylan Turner
Ah, maybe that's what helped on keto itself; I started inhaling lo-salt to fix the "keto flu".
I unironically enjoyed the shoulder pumps. Lower back pumps make me not want to lift. I ain't no bitch tho.
Josiah Butler
Sodium pumps are real. Reassess diet. Too much sodium isn't necessarily as real as your sodium:mag or sodium:K ratios being out of balance.
Look at your diet and see where you can fit more natural sources of K. White potatoes are a great start.
Christopher Carter
That's why I got lo-salt which has a lower sodium count and a higher potassium count. That being said, I definitely will redo my whole meal prep to weed out potential causes of imbalance. Good looks on the advice.
That's what I thought and it's sort of true for me too, but when you start to get really aggressive with them, holding their body down and slapping their face while you just rape the fuck out of their holes it makes me hard like no other. I bet it's inside you too. The lust awakens.
Yes always. I thought that was clear the way I phrased that.
Jack Jones
Then that's not actual rape. Jesus. Actual rape is just horrifying.
Chase Wilson
You would probably do well to take a dose of ai bruv.
It'll either fix your problem or.... Nadda. No down side.
Carson White
I went and found one just to post but I’m not gonna delete it from my camera roll either.
If you like the look of Pinoy girls so much why haven’t you gone over there and found your own version of pequeri? Hell if you gave one Aus citizenship they’d do whatever you wanted.
Consensual non-consent is fun, just don't think about it too much or it becomes weird
Jayden Morris
I’ve got 20mg capsules of asin. Think taking half of one would be a good place to start?
Jackson Harris
I don't think she's full pinoy. From what I gather of her posts she's at least some sort of mix. I don't have a thing specifically for pinoy. I just like cute. As long as their white or asian, it doesn't matter. Haafu's usually get me really good though.
I'd like a girl to love me for me, not for my first world citizenship. Plus have you ever heard a flip speaking English? Holy shit no.
Women want to be raped. You should rape, think about it So of the stats are true, then they have a good chance of being raped before. And if the other stats are true then theyre into rape. Women like complaining and love attention, so then they can complain to their hearts content and get tons of attention. So like why not? Probably be more traumatic for me than the chick, and as a white male Im already a supposed rapist, why not live up to that?
Ryder Hall
They would like consensual non-consenting rape with chad.
Well they’d atleast pretend to love you for you until they got your money or citizenship. And yeah I’ve heard them but thankfully the richer ones don’t have weird ass accents.
You should really book a trip over there and just have some fun. Tons of super petite girls most of them QT enough to throw around in bed but still take out in public. If you have the BWC just know a lot of them will straight up refuse to fuck.
I have a friend who's 6'5" half flip, half german and a millionaire thanks to his dad. Built like a tank. He lives in America now and got approached to be on the bachelor over there in California. Said he felt like a complete king when he went to visit family. Didn't find one person even close to being as tall as him.
But for me, sex tourism just isn't my thing. I prefer obsessing over a single girl and taking care of her.
If youre sad enough that they would have 'regret rape' anyways then yes But in all other scenarios
Daniel Allen
Yeah sure, even a full one would be fine probably. In my experience tanking estrogen happens much more from dosing too often than from one dose being too big.
Oh wait aren't you super racist? I just remembered that our misremembered. That would be really funny .
Jerry, pls don't be the next school shooter.
Jaxson Anderson
I am super racist. Only races worth respecting as groups are whites and east asians since they're the only ones who really accomplished shit by themselves and actually function to benefit society as a whole.
Oh that's good I don't have to feel guilty about really disliking you. You're like the numerous Uno fagbag but I felt like there was a sweet kid in there I wanted to help out and be nice to.
But you're just a little cross dressing Fuckboy who is full of hate! Hahah!
It's so funny to me that it's always the absolute bottom of the barrel white people who talk about white supremacy (lives with parents in 20s, abuses hormones without lifting, riddled with mental illness, afraid of sex and women, lazy &c, &c.) I've never met an attractive or accomplished white man who was a white supremest. At least you aren't fat, you almost hit every space on my bingo card.
Also Asian culture is objectively the lamest of all major cultures. Totally emasculated, anti-fun, fucking weird in the dumbest ways from tears in the blanket of repression.
Dylan Ward
Yeah man girls are gonna use it to measure dickpics too.
Adrian Scott
Hopefully it can measure circumference too Then maybe I can get some street cred with the ladies
I wonder if this actually works accurately, oh my God I hope so hard that this is real. This will absolutely change the entire course of /fraud/, Jow Forums, the entire internet maybe.
Leo Torres
>being so out of touch with society you took that post as a try hard post YIKES
Christian Richardson
>white supremacy nani
Not liking other races as groups doesn't inherently equate to thinking your own race is superior or that I as a person am superior to others of different races. I prefer to avoid any sort of race rhetoric and just get along with people as individuals but I would be lying if I said I didn't get along much better with whites and east asians just because of the behaviours that the cultures and people share.
