Lifting weights exclusively

>BJJ
>self-defense
You do realize 1 on 1 fights are the exception IRL, right?

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>Just BJJ for that much
Do boxing or wrestling. BJJfags have an ego so big it goes around the world and up their ass

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No bro, that shit sucks. My gym is 99/mo no commitment unlimited classes.

Go ask to watch a class and see for yourself.

>LOOK, BJJ IS SHIT
>no on in the webms does BJJ

What did he mean by this?

Holy fuck that pic ahaha

Lol fuck no! Should burn down the crook's business.

Judo is the lifting man's sport
Most other martial arts can become more difficult as you get bigger and slower

If you followed mma you would realize the guys getting knocked thd fuck out are all bjj guys

Sorry but real fights start standing up

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Martial arts are for literal faggots.
You're guaranteed to waste more time and money and get more injured practicing them than you would get robbed out of in several hundred lifetimes.

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Thanks bros, I'll keep looking

Everyone talking shit in this thread about BJJ would get fucking wrecked by a BJJ purple belt before they even realized they were in a fight.

It depends where you live and the general cost of living and income of people around you.

Isnt there a heavy weightclass in muay tai?

>lifting only babbie intimidated his 1pl8 bench won't save him in a fight

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Judo got ruined when they took out the double-leg for being too effective. Its just awkward greco with gis now.

I suicide rolled a blackbelt into a tapout day 1 at my gym. You people are a fuckin joke to other grapplers.

I don't get into fights. If you practice martial arts you get punched in the face a lot more often than I do. You pay to get punched too. It's ridiculous. If you live in a warzone get an AK or move somewhere else.

sports bjj is not a combat sport

only the self defense branch of bjj is worth a shit

Martial arts is a blast. I have a wrestling background and I started striking a year or two ago and started sparring last fall and it's really fucking fun.

Sure you did, buddy.

A fight isn't always up to you. Please go be insecure somewhere else

>I like BJJ! It gives the little guy the advantage

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>gets 1 tapout
the entire system is shit.

what is your martial art?

theyre the same weightclass brainlet.

and if you think that in all your cherry picked videos that all those strikers werent at least brown belts in bjj, you are worse than i though

Damn.. americans really do get cucked on the BJJ prices. No wonder brazilians immigrate en-masse.
My condolences.
But yeah that shit is very expensive but at the same time "average". Is the head of the gym a "big time" bjj champion?, or is it affiliated to a big chain? like gracie barra or whatever the fuck.
I think ralph gracie in San Francisco charges near $200 a month, but that's for unlimited and no contract.
I think 110/month with the contract is somewhat reasonable for 2x regulars and an open mat. For americans anyway.
How long do the classes/practices last? - If it's only 1hour i take my word back and you can tell them to fuck off.

*exposes BJJ*

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I'm very secure in the fact that I don't need to know kung-fu to leave my house. You're the one giving yourself brain-damage and wasting thousands because some very scary Jackie Chan movies told you baddies might challenge you to a kicking duel and you need to be prepared.

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So many gringos think rolling twice a week in borderline mcdojo makes you rickson gracie.
I know kids in the favelas with 10$ gi with literal shitstains on them with better skills than most black belt in the US

You don’t ‘know’ BJJ son and sure as hell it doesn’t make you invincible

i fucking love bisbing

Brazilians are known roiders. About as bad as russians.

Come aroubd here trying to wrestle and get smacked in the head with a 2x4

thats interesting because most brazilians ive talked to say bjj is something the rich do, with the notable exception of jacare

The best cardio is rowing or biking. Get a gun if you need to defend yourself.

*please not that I'm not against practicing sports. If you enjoy rolling around with sweaty dudes and winning ribbons be my guest, but don't pretend it's a useful skill. It's about as useful as archery and powercleans.

Its true. Look how many celebrities do it. Its a pussy sport. They can't handle actual boxing or MT so they do something easy like BJJ

8 years wrestling, mma to stay in shape with a focus on muay thai. It wasnt one tapout, one partner or one gym. I've been to several gyms in several cities and end up sparring coaches and fighters. I'm not even good, your egos are just out of control because you are the bottom of the barrel when it comes to the kind of people you attract.

Its a lazy, imcomplete martial art. A good compliment to a real grappling and striking art if you want to compete in mma, but dont kid yourself outside of a gym.And speaking of sparring how the fuck do you guys lose to headlocks and slidebys like clockwork? God forbid you fuck with a judo guy that will just lateral you on your neck or a freestyle guy that that gets a deep double because you have 0 standup...

that wasnt my implication.

i was talking about the poor in Brazil that dont do it.

as far as it being pussy, i agree that sports bjj is. the place i train at though does 50% striking / self defense.

if youre not getting hit in the face while doing bjj, youre not going to be able to use it when you need to

What would you recommend for grappling then?

i just dont believe you based on my own experiences with the collegiate wrestlers weve had train with us.

Ideally, you should do both a striking art and a grappling art.

>BJJ/MT
>Wrestling/Boxing

Something like that. You can't neglect striking or grappling.

College wrestlers dont spar bjj guys, and you would know how ridiculous that sounds if you knew the difference in rules. I think you may be full of shit now.

Start with a basic folk or freestyle and branch out to greco or judo THEN fuck with bjj.

Don't have the info right in front of me but I believe they're an hour and a half. Head of the gym claims a ton of titles going back almost 20 years, including some "world championships."

>College wrestlers dont spar bjj guys, and you would know how ridiculous that sounds if you knew the difference in rules. I think you may be full of shit now.

what? theyve come in to train on their own time - its not like the school told them to.

Gracie Jiu Jitsu used to be only for the fine white brazilian man. An activity only for gentlemen of higher stock.
But there's been a radical change since Helio died and even some of the Gracie members themselves in Brazil teach the negritos in the favelas and have special programs for them, where they give them Gis and have GYMs inside or very near the favelas.
It's really degenerate.

>be myself
>be me
>climber
>go to tap out
>get to lead core drill
>OK FIRST SET IS DONE
>even the instructors quit before the first set

no wonder GSP always wins, he's the only one that can do a muscle up

>also at same gym
>dude is curling 10lbs on a barbell
>people stare in amazement at his power

>instructer tries to break my holds with "technique"
>cant even separate my climber's grip with his leg
>clambed v4 at the time

mma guys can fight but they are weak af compared to gymnastics/climbing

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>Fighters can't lift
>Lifters can't fight
Thats my motto. Very rarely one can do both even though its easy as shit desu. Strength and conditioning coaches at MMA gyms are a waste. Jon Jones and GSP did powerlifting and olympic lifting respectively and they are the GOATs.

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Fuck, I started 10 years ago with a black belt two degrees under helio, then a ufc black belt two degrees from helio. 120/mo unlimited, no contract, classes available 7 days a week and we could roll afterwards.

Now I see all these random shit holes popping up ran by purple belts with who the fuck knows lineage asking for 120/mo. GTFO. I'm so close to just renting out some space, throwing some mats down, then poaching students from gyms for some private open rolls. Fuck your belts, they haven't been respectable in 10 years. Even Helio went back to wearing a blue belt towards the end of his life. There should only be white and black.

are these purposely shitty clips or is every match like this? because it looks like some real autismos throwing random punches until one slips on a banana peel

>different gym
>grappling with sesoned guy
>stop being explosive, that is how you hurt people
>OK sorry try to go easier
>DUDE STAWP YOUR TOO POWERFUL
>feel bad cuz im using a quarter of my real power
>mfw we are doing basic pushing ,

I understand that you need to be careful with armbars and the like (i never followe through with submissions cuz i hate hurting ppl) but like comeon, how weak can you be?

also... that gif...why not do front levers at this point??

Oh, I misunderstood what you meant. My bad.

>dude stop spazzing
>dude stop using your strength
>dude let's just flow roll
>dude just tap to my ankle lock
>dude just keep training you'll get good eventually

Nova Uniao, which started a short time after the Gracies, have had a huge outreach to the underprivileged.

great, so when they drop out of school and turn to a life of crime because they care more about bjj, they'll be able to grapple fuck citizens instead of just stabbing and shooting

Why are S&C coaches a scam?

That why I started training BJJ along with Muay Thai. It's fucking awesome, but I just got injured, sprained by wrist in BJJ, but it's healing quickly.

I changed my goals, I want to be good at martial arts and put strength training as my secondary goal. Honestly, it's true, if you're just getting big and/or strong without training a martial art, it's kinda useless.

When I first stepped into BJJ a kid 60lbs lighter than me submitted me with no issue. That was when I realized my cardio sucked, it doesn't really matter how strong I am, and I need to get better at martial arts and THEN get strong or at least do it at the same time with martial arts taking the priority.

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Fuck off CWS.

This guy gets it

Your gym wouldn't happen to be the one in Falls Church, VA?

They've probably kept more people away from a life of crime more than anything. My professor is from a Nova Uniao gym out of Sao Paulo and he said that a lot of the poor kids he grew up with use BJJ as a way to get out of the country. Apparently NU will send black belts to other countries to start new gyms.

He says that it's a privilege to train there if you're poor since they provide gi's and scholarships on the condition you are a good representative of NU. Troublemakers flunk out pretty quickly.

Don't be such a Negative Nancy.

>if you're just getting big and/or strong without training a martial art, it's kinda useless.
What "use" does bjj have? Other than becoming a bjj coach or competing.

>BJJ
>not Judo
Laffin at you

BJJ is just ne-waza without time pressure. It's less fun, less demanding, and translates less to live combat.

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Cardio, self-defense, fighting, competition etc.

A lot of people want to get big and strong thinking they can fuck anyone up, but it's simply not true. I'm not saying lifting is useless, lifting is great. But if you're not coupling it with a way to fight, then that extra muscle and strength is very superficial and if shit hits the fan then you'll get your ass kicked and look ridiculous.

Like this guy:youtube.com/watch?v=kL3VzjcptBI&t=370s

Just do both. Stupid tribalism is keeping you from being the best grappler you can be.

>if u follow my gay martial art rules then i'll beat you

I live in Missouri where I can concealed carry without a permit

Why do I need to learn that shit when I can put hot lead into someone's body

Pedro Sauer's striking is so fucking bad...He'd totally kick my ass, but his hands were just awful.

Boxers, MT fighters, Wrestlers, JiuJiteiros know are comfortable with the grind of combat. They know what their bodies are capable of withstanding compared to someone that doesn't train force on force. Unless you train you just wouldn't understand.

Because murdering someone and twisting their shoulder a little bit or choking them to make them stop has quite different outcomes.
Not every situation needs the most violent outcome. Do you drive your car at max speed everywhere too?

I'm not a judo native. Used to wrestle and train BJJ until I found a good judo club. At least for me it's night and day which ruleset is more fun and demanding to practice. I mean it when I say BJJ is basically judo's ne-waza (with the exception of leg locks, which you don't get to until higher levels anyway). If I had time to train twice a day I'd do both, and my ne-waza would improve, so I'm not saying BJJ is useless.

good luck fighting random ppl who might carry knives and will kick ur head in if you fall on the ground. Your martial arts in controlled environments wont save you

Sambo fighter here.
We look gay. But it's a nice work out.

>Cardio
Same question
>self-defense, fighting
This is the equivalent of trainign muscle-ups three times a week in case you ever need to hang off the ledge of a buidling, with the added certainty that you will get injured in training.

You're allowed to train whatever the fuck you want, train your asshole to take horse cocks for all I care (you're even allowed to not lift barbells if you don't like it), but talking about stuff "functional strength" unironically is pretty delusional and akin to LARPing.

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Good luck shooting at a low stress gun range and not training multiple means of lethality to become a harder man to kill. Enjoy wearing your 5.11 pants and combat boots you fudd

>not combining your lifting with Greco Roman wrasslin
>not using patrician-tier boxing to assert your dominance as a fighter and a noble

This kid is onto something.

I can confirm this is false.

I half-assedly train karate and I've done wrestling off and on over the years, and I've mogged all the purple belts at the bjj dojos I've swung by in the past

>he doesn't do fencing
Walk into a fencing arena with me, see if your strength and manhugging are of any use (pro-tip: they won't).

I'm him Seriously, I'm a relatively strong guy, kinda big, and I went into BJJ with the expectation that I'll be able to succeed because I'm bigger and stronger.

NOPE. Also, in terms of striking sports, you can be huge as hell, but we all have weak heads and skulls in comparison to the rest of our bodies. That's why a good punch or kick to the face can take anyone down.

Why waste time ONLY doing the gym, then? We should be training to fight, and SUPPLEMENT that martial arts training with strength training. Only then will we not only be able to fight, but we will not just have muscle and strength for show, but for added benefit to our fighting ability.

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BJJ guy here. Blue belt. Make sure you learn to box.

>Walk into a fencing arena with me

No.
Oops your thing just became useless.

>weeb trash carries around a rapier.

Yeah okay

This

>45 minute brawl
Things that never happened.

This is what I do. Thai Boxing and BJJ. GOAT combo

All of you are fucking gay flappy pussies.

>implying Withaker is not a wrestler that switched to GRACIE HUMANITÁ.
link related.
youtube.com/watch?v=EKmd0xXAywo
Had he not stand'n'brawl'd, he would have won. But he wants to put style.
Thos fucking MMA newwbs.
right.
Rockhold is the proof that you can be an excellent grappler without going bjj.
Yeah... no.
Strenght does not mean being explosive. use moves and attacks you can control the range of motion at any given time.
Judo is dead. You can't even single leg someone, no standing armbars or chokes.
>BJJ is just ne-waza without time pressure
Yeah, you tell me that when a cunt follows up his armbar with a wristlock or leglocks you. Judoka call that cheating.

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>Tyron
>didn't expose BJJ
How did Maia do against him? Actually how did Maia do against Colbly? Usman? He struggled to win against Masvidal lmao

Back to your containment board cumguzzlers

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