My female friend just told me this

acting like what she says you should act like only gets one sort of a chick - the wannabe stacy

Sounds like OPs normie frend is calling him out for being an attention whoring faggot. Im calling you an attention whore too, faggot.

Yea, I do. I told her straight up after the first day of talking but she just laughed at the way I worded it. She's a nice person otherwise.

Because she talks to me about her problems and doesn't like me that way. So I said fuck it why not vent on her.

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>you ARE attractive
The very fact that she said this proves youre not attractive. Sorry OP you never had a fair chance

You sound like an angsty teen. Please kys, attention whore

Women are dishonest nurturers/enablers. That's why kids from single mother homes are such a fucking mess.

That's why fat uggos (who only every have female company) and up with ridiculous standards for themselves.

They'll never be straight or honest with you about things they think will hurt you.

OP, I've been in your exact situation. Do not try to get with her. And stop pestering her all the time, even though you think she has similar feelings about being depressed and vents to you about her problems, she WILL get sick of you talking about your problems all the time and it will ruin whatever friendship you have.

I know dude. I browse r9k and braincels everyday, I know that her saying this is a death sentence.

Every female friend I talk to says the same fucking bullshit.

How am I attention whoring? I vent my problems on her because she doesn't find me attractive and doesn't see me in a romantic way.

Women don't understand OP, they live in a world where they get approached all the time

Women preach all this shit but don't ever have to get their hands dirty themselves since they never make the first moves in the dating scene.

>vents to you about her problems, she WILL get sick of you talking
So its ok for roasties to cry on our shoulders but no the other way around?

Not saying it's okay, faggot, but it's just the way it is.

>they live in a world where they get approached all the time
This has to be one of the most bizarre things betaboys think. Believe me, unless she a ultra thot, most qts don't even get approached, let alone a little.

Just ignore her OP, she doesn't understand, she can't understand.

Nothing is so empty as being told you're attractive by people who would never be in a romantic relationship with you. Unironically fembots if you say shit like this you better be ready to pity fuck somebody. Shit or get off the pot. You will just break somebody even more if you do this shit because you will make them jaded and believe that the people around you tell comforting lies.

I don't expect fembots to pity fuck losers, I just want them to stop sending robots texts like this. They don't help.

Well, show us your jaw fucker. We will be the judge.

This reminds me of my chad college friends.

They found out I'm a virgin and they always tell me stuff like that. But I'm afraid, they tell other people I'm a virgin so they can understand wtf is wrong with me, or else they look at me like I'm different.

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Here, I posted on /soc/ yesterday but they kept giving me the same "personality" crap.

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No, but they've cornered the pussy market and you can either play the game or opt out. "Successful" people don't like hearing how sad or hard things are for you, it forcibly pops their shiny and perfect worldview bubble, and they will aggressively try to stop you from doing so. Don't be surprised.

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You need to lose weight and I could see you being cute. Fix your posture as well.

They get free attention all the time. They have no idea what life is actually like as a below average male.

your jaw rly is just normal. you have a pointy head but not a big deal desu

You're preaching to the choir here dude. Women just don't understand :/

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Absolutely normal jaw. I assume things have just gotten so bad you assume you're ugly and are taking it out on your body but from this you look totally normal. Hell you look more normal than me and at least girls Kinda talk to me.

This is probably a waste of time but you realize you're not being very nice to the person who you're venting to, right?

You are mentally ill. Your jaw is fine.

This. OP, stop thinking getting surgery or whatever. Start lifting if you want girls to mire you on the bus.

Seems pretty straight my dude
It isn't Chad jawline and it also isn't a no chin
Go ahead waist your money insecure faggot
At least i got an excuse with an overbite which exacerbates my chin line up

What is wrong with me then? I don't get it.

I've been on 7 "dates" this year if you can even call them that. None of the girls I went out with even considered them dates. I'm still friends with the majority of them, but I know that if I was attractive I would be more than friends with most of them.

No, shes a lying cunt who doesn't want to feel guilty for turn ing you down. Looks are everything, roasties always love doing this where they desperately try and convince you otherwise because they are terrified youll become redpilled.

>go out and get rejected

Typical thot bullshitery.

Your skin is a mild disaster but if that was fixed you would easily make 5/10. Right now you're 4/10ish. You have no athleticism to speak of. Haircut is tidy but meh, wouldn't worry about it, not your biggest issue.

You aren't doomed to lovelessness but realize your looksmatch is probably fat. Realize that 30% of women get the vast majority of the attention from men. If your standards are too high to cope with that, you best be fucking going crazy trying to fix your skin, and maybe trying to better that body.

As you already know, in the context of online dating, looks = personality.

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You're probably chubby. You've got acne which indicates poor hygiene so I assume you may smell. You have bad posture and lack confidence.

Idk how you talk to them but I can tell you're too mopey on yourself and believe me I suffer from this too, women dont like to hear sad shit about you, we both need to work on it. Confidence, also be clear about what you want.

Fuck off failed normie.
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Your jawline is typical though dude, you just have a bit of BDD. The issue that strikes me is your complexion, not your jaw.

Also, at this point from my own experiences and all i've seen on this board. i've come to the conclusion that men have little affect on whether they will get a girlfriend or not. If a woman wants you they will have you. If they don't they won't. It;s pretty much all their choice.

For all you angsty teenagers, we've all been there, and talking it out with women will get you nowhere. Read that again, it is a waste of time. If you ACTUALLY want to feel better, you look at yourself, and remember that it is the minimum of what you will always have, and then you think about how you can make that better. This means you learn how to become a man, and then as a consequence you will learn to withstand yourself more and more as time passes. Do not ever fixate on a single woman, because that puts you in a scarcity mindset, and working on yourself makes it so that you will have a larger and larger supply of women to choose from. Hear these words and truly think about them if you wish to ease your suffering.

Yours truly, a former suffering and angsty teenager

You took the words out of my mouth dude.

Honestly bro, just tell me what the fuck is wrong with my face please so I can get surgery. I don't want to be 5/10 at max.

Send her this and see what she says

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wow that's quite a text, normies just don't understand a despairing blackpilled incel or someone who can't escape low status

imagine if you could just push a button in your head and make all the bad feels and thoughts go away

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You need to get more than just jaw surgery bro

Jaw surgery is a big first step, get some fat sucked from beneath your neck as well and fix your dumbo ears, there's surgery for that too. Then get a different haircut, go to the sauna and moisturize your skin. Buy HGH (somatropin) and testosterone enanthate and do neck workouts for your pencil neck

bro you can make it follow my advice and you will be able to get a 3/10
chubby drunk girl to maybe give you a pity fuck after a night out clubbing on mdma

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Shes a women, she thinks being alone is a choice. And it is, for her. But shes right about negativity being useless. Next time you feel down, find a asian massage parlor girl for a easy pick me up

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>imessage
yeah i guess you should just kys

She's naive. It's a normal emotion to feel down on yourself so you can have an outlet to show how you truly feel. Then you can think about how you can go about your goal later on after your mind is well rested.

She's basically saying that she can't empathize with how you're feeling and making up all this bs pseudo-reasoning just to maintain some personal credibility.

Unfortunately, finding a partner is a completely different ball game for someone who is not a normalfag. Meeting people face-to-face won't do any good for a dude who wasn't born with a natural instinct to socialize. So, an unconventional approach has to be made. Something other than the whole "apply yourself" or "try harder" meme.

You basically have to know 3 things:
1. What is it you desire.
2. Why do you yearn for it
3. Creating a realistic solution based on what you know or learn along the way.

>she's naive

yeah but OP is the one who suffers she can just reject him

isn't that sad?

op needs to be normie

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Yea I agree with you. No girl has ever "wanted" me before.

Do you really think women don't like OP because of his ears? lmfao

I've shown my parents this and they tell me that they can just find studies that show otherwise. They never do though.

I've done all sorts of emotional gymnastics on at least 100 different girls and at this point I'm just like. if someone wants me they want me. I cannot be fucked to go out of my way for them.

I can tell you that its simply a matter of throwing shit at the wall and seeing what sticks. That's what they mean by personality. I know because I'm in the same boat.. The fact of the matter is that even if its a completely uneven playing field you and I will never set any dating standards so we will be forced to abide by them. Make the first move if you have to, do what I cant. I've seen far less attractive people than you with good personalities get married.

You need a liposuction, not a jaw surgery.

Also, now I'm starting to understand what these "fembots" talk about. Socializing with women is a two-way street. She supports you emotionally and vice versa. But it has to be equal. It gets to the point where one side would be too exhausted to constantly be used as a tissue for the other person's tears, so they'll cut all losses and leave.

Which is why in addition to a gf, a small support group (like us) helps in mitigating some turmoil without overwhelming one person.

With that, dating is actually a team effort. You scratch my back, I scratch yours.

Unfortunately, I think that you would need to be born into being a normalfag. If not, you have to deviate from their path of conformity and find an alternate route to success based on who you are as a person.

One size doesn't always fit all people.

I don't know, do YOU want to date a genetically inferior subhuman beta male with dumbo ears? Me, personally, I don't. It just shows that there's some genetic deformities lurking beneath that ugly exterior, I wouldn't want that to be the father or mother of my offspring.

OP should probably start taking drugs as well, for example magic mushrooms and mdma have neuroplastic qualities to them and make you permanently more extroverted and free of anxiety. You can either be a genetically inferior beta male with anxiety and low testosterone and high cortisol OR you can take destiny into your own hands and improve yourself BY ALL MEANS NECESSARY to MAYBE get a 3.5/10 to settle for you as your betabux husband after she turns 30

My brother is literally uglier than you and he has had several gfs before. Theres clearly something wrong with you eternally, than whats presented on the outside.

hahaha what the fuck is wrong with your forehead and eyebrows? You didnt notice how your head is literally shaped like the old forever alone meme?

Your jawline is the least of your concerns, but since you cant see the shape of your head in the mirror I guess it makes sense.

I've taken LSD about 10 times this year alone. It doesn't help.

>a girl bothered to write multiple lengthy responses to you
Holy shit op what's the secret

Well don't stick with the same substance if it doesn't do the trick for you. Try MDMA next.

And like I said, buy somatropin (it's expensive but worth every penny)

I'm not trying to hugbox you but I couldn't really tell you if any specific plastic surgery would help you. Largely because you're pudgy enough to hide any attractive facial features like cheekbones you might have. I also don't think you're 5/10 at the limit, I think you're at least 6/10 limit if you lose some bodyfat which will make your face less soft, get a better body, fix your complexion, fix the supercuts haircut, and I just noticed how your posture is pretty shit. You have the classic computer posture from desk usage, where your neck is craned forwards slightly, which can be corrected with exercise and perticularly pulling/lat upper body movements. You MIGHT be able to go to 7/10, but I can't quite tell, maybe not.

I'm not trying to say "You don't need to get plastic surgery user, plastic surgery is wrong" I'm saying it would be sort of lipstick on a pig at this point to be blunt. There are far bigger issues with your appearance than anything plastic surgery can solve.

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>Dumbo ears

I'm this user I think user doesn't have big ears at all. They're pretty much dead on average. I really doubt making his ears smaller would improve his appearance.

I agree his neck isn't particularly thick but I can't really tell how thick it is from this angle.

In a weird twist, I have features like yours, but I've had people interested in me for some reason...

The only thing I can think of is that I make myself clean looking as possible and it's more certain women who have similar personality traits to me. (Basically a cyborg)

No joke. Found this with a section that mentions this. Kudos to anybody who can dig further into this:

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetic_sexual_attraction

I met her after a concert and went from there.

If 6/10 is the best I can do I'm gonna suicide.

There's no point in living if you aren't attractive. Literally no point.

Nah u and I can get a 1/10 hogwhale gf, maybe a 2 and hopeful a 3. Doubtful for a 4 or higher.

You need:
>forehead fillers (to fill in that awful bump)
>nose job (specifically an alarplasty to reduce the wedges of your nose, and you need to get your nose bridge narrowed down/shaved off)
>liposuction (to get rid of the fat under your neck in order to define your jawline)
>chin implant
>acutane
>and a new hair style
Get everything on this list and you will look like a Chad in no time.

I agree with the others who say that your problem is psychological.

Physically you look like an average guy.

Unfortunately, you still probably won't believe us, because you literally have a warped self image, and can't see your physical structure accurately.

Also, it's easier to blame your appearence, because at least then you have a tangible cause for your problems.

Because if your problems are psychological (and they are) then you have to deal with the fact that your issues are intangible, and that's going to mean healing childhood trauma and improving self-talk.

Good luck, I hope you get better.

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Also i'm being sarcastic here it's aids and I dont want a pigwhale help me please.

I know how you feel dude. A bullet to the head will solve our problems.

Thank you so much. I'm going to have to wageslave for it.

>average

Fuck being average. Average doesn't get you anywhere in life. Average didn't get me anywhere so far.

>If 6/10 is the best I can do I'm gonna suicide.

You problem definitely is psychological then (and spiritual).

6/10 by definition is above average.

This is the only advice you need. Begin.
1) Lose weight. Build muscle. You don't have to look like some roided up dude, but it'll help you.
2) Take better care of your skin. Your acne is fucked. You can do better.
3) Fix your posture. Sit up straight. Stop slouching.
Optional 4) Grow a beard, if you can. You have the perfect face for it.

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>Fuck being average. Average doesn't get you anywhere in life. Average didn't get me anywhere so far.

Plenty of average looking people are happy, have a GF, or have a sex life.

I'm not saying this to be a dick, but go out of your house more and look around.

Plently of average guys smiling, and laughing with friends, and average guys with cutie girls.

I would agree that OP should consider trimming his eyebrows, probably into a less curved shape.

I don't see what's wrong with his forehead?

>If 6/10 is the best I can do I'm gonna suicide.

That's a psychological issue TBQHFAM. Not everybody can be stunningly beautiful. If you off yourself Jow Forums is gonna mock you for being a bitch.

Come on user, don't you know emotional labor is a feminist meme? Nobody could get tired of listening to depressives

She doesn't understand the male struggle, and as a woman who will be sought after frequently, she will never understand the love lust and starvation that so many of us feel regularly.

With that said, she is not completely wrong, and confidence can go a long way when trying to date someone.

Nah ur Jaw is fine, lose weight and get fit and you can be elevated to Brad status.
>bonus points for becoming a Mexican cartel boss

Yeah I would agree with this, he looks like an average guy with shit skin and a supercuts haircut shit posture and a fairly normal amount of pudge. Do some pullups, lose some weight, get a better haircut, and fix his face and shit will be like night and day. That's gonna get him like 80% of the way there and everything else he's gonna have to struggle for.

If he wants to be fucking beautiful than yeah he can go full looksmax, but ultimately that's probably just going to make the BDD worse. I would just aim for 6/10 and fucking settle for a 5/10. You will end up like icarus chasing perfection

One has to realise that roasties really don't care about looks as much as men care about looks EXCEPT in the context of the thot hookup market. They care about wealth and social status even more. For this guy to bring himself up just to 7/10 is going to take so many extreme measures he's probably going to make himself less attractive via the desperate measures he goes to. It's very important to improve your looks, but it's not SO important that it's worth driving yourself fucking mad and going to desperate measures to do it.

Have you ever seen how fugly lesbians are? Have you seen how beautiful gay men are? This is reflective of the emphasis both genders put on appearance. Looksmaxing is pretty fucking memed and ultimately you will lose your looks anyways because of aging and then you're fucked and if you continue chasing looks you end up like one of those 40 year old thot starlets with a paralyzed face trying to desperately hold onto their youth. Get a decent job and live an interesting life and you will have something that can make you more appealing to the roasties in the long term than extreme looksmaxing.

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Only a certain type of person is going to be on okcupid, you do understand that right?
You understand that is not an accurate representation of people as a whole?

Sorry but why does her saying
>you ARE attractive
prove you're not attractive?

>Only a certain type of person is going to be on okcupid
People who are single? What is your point?

Thank you user. Your post really helped me.
It really helps when people are honest about my flaws instead of just saying "you're not ugly" or "you're attractive"

How the fuck do I get a woman outside of my family to care about me this much.

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I mean that picture is a redpill but you have to take it in context. Think of your own life. Do you think out of the people you've known for at least a few months, that it's just the beautiful people with the best personalities? I sure as fuck don't. Generally it's the average looking people with the best personalities in my experience.

However, if you're meeting somebody for the first time and they're beautiful, don't you just think everything they say is wonderful? That's what the okcupid graph is representative of. The first impression. Looks = Personality when it comes to first impressions, but the divide gets steeper and steeper the longer you know somebody.

Looks always play a role in the evaluation of personality, it's hard to hate somebody you want to fuck, but you have to not take this shit TOO seriously.

also for the acne mate, try that nivea anti-acne mud foam shite, it's been shilled a lot in my area and i gave it a shot and it's honestly pretty fucking solid.

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I'm currently using proactive, but will try it out. Where are you from?

your skin and hair are weird. fix that first. your jaw is unimpressive, getting surgery is not necessary but it could help you sail past that "le personality" garbage.

i'm from the uk but live in singapore. getting conscripted next month and apparently all the jungle trodding NS lads use it

stop acting like a whiny bitch or one day you will loose the only friend who cares about you.

I wish I had somebody to prop me up like that

or a female friend

or any friend really...

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>lol just b urself sweetie :^) don't b negative dont b afraid of rejection

This coming from a creature who has never known rejection or anything but complete validation for merely existing.

No only normies are on okcupid

That's not what she said and you know it faggot