> girls really, legit want this
> total "absolute" perfection to 9/10 of 9's and 10's would be this, with wider shoulders
Why really lift past this? I don't get it.
This dude goes crazy hard at a sport - lifting helps facilitate this sport. Why lift just to be like Jeff Seid, where it's like - "I lift to lift"?
gymcel = cope
if youre not lifting to supplement a sport or athletic activity you're just a joke.
he's also a multi millionaire and one of the most popular athletes in the world and one of the best footballers ever
you are none of those
that literally had absolutely nothing to do with the question, i don't understand this response.
>lifting for girls
>not lifting for an upcoming bodybuilding competition
unironically never going to make it
At least I am white lol
Crab in a B U C K E T
You are questioning what girls want and saying "why do anything past their desires?" And anons reply is to show how little women care about men physically. If you are just trying to get girls money, power, fame, is even easier than lifting.
>This scale slides all the way down to buying a blacked out van with ropes and cuffs user.
this is my goal this or next year.
steve reeves is my end goal when i reach mid 20s
Do you even look anywhere close to him?
>money, power, fame, is even easier than lifting.
You guys are deluded. Lifting is far easier than getting rich.
>Tfw this mode but wider shoulders and 10% bf.
I kind of like this mode. What should I do besides cut to 8%? What do I do after that?
Because I also want to look big in a shirt. I don't walk around shirtless all day you know
t. el goblino del 56%
Because there are multiple reasons why someone might be lifting.
If you're into the game literally just to attract girls, yes, you shouldn't got anywhere past this.
Are you implying there are people that are bigger than him and leaner??If he posted a mirror selfie everyone would say he is not natty.It takes shitton of effort to be so lean and carry that much mass
>diet; involving not only what you do eat but how often you deny drinking with your bros or eating out on dates
>significant amts of various exercises at significant weights. Remaining dedicated and motivated despite the vicissitudes of life.
>Using your valuable "life time" to lift things and sculpt a body rather than learning: language, buisness, finance, social gains, etc
>risking injury
Or
>Put all your time and effort from the moment you graduate HS into getting a degree, internships, landing a high paying job, cutthroat your way to management, and coast so that you can afford a silicone titty "maid" to watch the house and clean your cock from time to time
Hard choice user.
people that are bigger and leaner than him on Jow Forums*
>Why really lift past this? I don't get it.
Because I have different goals, OP. Also, not all girls are into ottermode. Some like bigger guys.
You literally cannot do any of that if you didn't take high school seriously. Shit HS > Shit College > No way you get into a decent industry > Work an average job. It will be incredibly difficult and require multiple 8-10 HOUR days to "cuttthroat" your managment, and thats IF you get the opportunity.
>Smark HS kid route.
And lets say you do your route, if you graduate from a decent school in CS and work in Silicon Valley, you will probably making 250k/yr total comp in the valley just like everyone else. If you want more that, you will have to kill yourself working crazy hours at a startup in hope you get acquired for $20MM+.
>Lifting:
Just go the gym for 90 minutes every day and do your daily fork pushdowns / table pushaways
t. Silicon Valley faggot who sold his first startup for $5MM and works at FAANG making 300k/yr. Lifting has literally been "don't use your free time playing video games and go the gym instead"
I am tall blonde blue eyed. Keep coping mongrel
There's no way girls want this. Maybe some nigger trashes. But white women want tall, blonde, blue eyed and handsome dudes.
Ib4 dark haired mutt nigger subhumans start coping.
>He actually thinks dedicating your entire life to becoming rich is easier than lifting weights for 5 hrs a week
Kill yourself brainlet
All I'll say is "tall, dark and handsome".
Dios mio el Monstruo
COPE
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>salty blonde virgins
Meanwhile qts mire my raven locks and my green eyes.
>Why really lift past this? I don't get it.
Because more muscles mean more strength and in my sport, weightlifting, more strength is important.
>and one of the best footballers ever
lel
>''dark hair, green eyes masterrace''
>thinking ronaldo is not the best footballer ever
lmao how can you be this delusional
He's not even the best player at Real Madrid.
Holy shit this thread.
He's not popular with women because of his body, he's popular because he's famous. Attraction isn't objective for women, they go for what is currently popular.
COPE mutt
only an actual incel who didnt play sports would believe this
COPE
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this is much harder to achieve than being a bloatlord with lunch lady arms.... yall act like this phsyique is easy but none of you look remotely this good
>into bodybuilding, one of if not the gayest shit u can ever be into
ngmi
only a coper would post like this
that's not even the case though regarding education
>shit HS
>community college 2 years
>actually try
>get good marks
>transfer to good college
sure it won't be anything Ivy League but transferring into a good public Uni like UNC, UCL, or V-Tech will be a lot better at getting your feet into a decent industry than picking whatever shit Uni that's willing to pick you up out of high school
dont even kno what the fuck that means, get off the internet from time to time kid
The ideal man for a mentally sound woman is skilled at his job, well-paid, fit, and fun to be around. I don’t know if Ronaldo is fun or not but he’s sure as hell those other things.
GOATnaldo is GL though, gymceling is just icing on the cake and legitimately helps him in his sport.
Dude on the left is a litteral unironic faggot and that is an obvious modeling pic/pr thing to shill "him".
Weep for being ugly
I can think of more gay things, for example sex with men.
One of the dumbest posts I’ve ever read. Guessing you’re a college freshman.
For everyday aesthetics and usefulness, nothing beats ottermode
>weightlifting is a sport!
Lmao
This is a mind-boggling cope
Nah they just don’t want creepy incels like this
Holy fuck I didn't realize there were genuinely guys like this.
>his dream amounts to being a wageslave for someone else
LMAO
>Silicon Valley faggot who sold his first startup for $5MM
how much of that did you actually get to keep?
you weren't the only person who helped build it, right?
the guy on the left mogs the guy on the right hard, nothing to do with his hair or eye color
t.Messi
What kind of woman does someone like this want? He’s a literal child
A servant he can fuck, generally.
I got "acquihired". Investors took home 3M. Employee pool was 600k, and my cofounder and I shared 1.6M. Of my ~700k, Uncle Sam took ~300K.
Worked my ass off for 5 years, and left with over 400k. Would have been far easier and paid more to just work for Google for 5 years.
Do what ever routine or go for whatever physique will most improve your self-esteem and confidence, that will raise the quality of your life more than trying your hardest to emulate the life and genetics of someone else.
>Investors took home 3M
Jesus fuck. How much did you borrow from investors?
>You literally cannot do any of that if you didn't take high school seriously. Shit HS > Shit College > No way you get into a decent industry > Work an average job.
>all this from an alleged silicon valley techfag
>DURR YOU CAN'T DO ANYTHING IN TECH WITHOUT A CS DEGREE
I'm not buying it. A majority of the software engineers I've worked with were self taught or went to a non-accredited program like a coding bootcamp. Maybe like 40% actually had CS degrees. You're either flat out lying or are intentionally distorting things.
Why the fuck did you sell? You can do the math to figure out how much you're going to get - was it just not worth it to continue?
fake and gay
We raised a little under 2M in total, and then managed to become profitable. Had we not been profitable, we might have raised more and investors would have got the whole thing. Unless you have facebook-tier level growth, the investors tend to always win. Having Zuckerberg or Speigel level of control is pretty rare. Being able to bootstrap without getting money from investors is also pretty hard unless you were born with a silver spoon. 90% the time you hear about startups the "bootstrap" without investor money, it turns out they got a 500k investment from a family member.
He's also gay and in a sham marriage with his childs surrogate mother.
>W-why do women only want to date this millionaire genius level football player Jow Forums?!
>Fucking roasties have such shit taste!
Yes, why would they want to date an underwear model worth millions
> A majority of the software engineers I've worked with were self taught or went to a non-accredited program like a coding bootcamp.
Are the engineers you work with getting paid FAANG tier salaries? I doubt the girls are swooning for your friends that are making 90k. Read the thread, this was about making enough money to the point it overshadows your gains.
I was tired of working 80 hour weeks making a shit tier salary in a market that was dying due to "alt-right scare" that caused more and more advertisers to advertise exclusively on Facebook or Google (who now control 95%+ of the digital ad market). Advertisers were scared to take risks on startups because what if your ad showed up next to someone wearing a MAGA hat! Lifting and eating right is literally ~20 hours/week (2 hours a day to cook/lift) investment far easier than trying to get rich.
Business idea: start a business that doesn't require much capital so you don't get jew'd by investors
I won't deny there are people that started on their own and grew revenues to a point where they could afford to hire people. But you are underestimating how hard that is. A cheap college grad engineer will run ~$7,500/mo. How long do you think it would take, building the product by yourself, from scratch to the point where you are making enough to pay yourself AND another hire.
You can't build the tech, sell the tech, and manage the business all by yourself - especially once you start landing major clients. Eventually you have to hire a engineer or a sales guy, and you have to pay salaries.
Your "business idea" almost completely necessitates that you don't go into tech.
He's some b list actor that women swoon overy I forget his name. But you're COPE is showing pretty hard
6.5/10
literally anyone can get into a 2 yr online masters program at stanford if you really are coping so hard with the *le ivy league college*.
Also I know a family friend that got tired of his old job, started learning cs at 48 years old, self taught and is now getting ~250k euros a year in Europe.
focusing on job is all well and good but not just for the sake of money or money to get girls, you will realize how empty that all is some day.
Also, if you know what you are doing building a fit body is barely even time consuming, considering the mental clarity it gives you compared to a sedentary person.
Does anyone else spend hours at a time in the gym to escape from reality?
I'm actually European tho, not like you larping amerimongrels.
soiboi...
Please go on about the guy earning 250k, how?
Focusing on making money isn't "empty", I can't understand this mindset. I want money for me, not for anyone else, not for women, ME. I want the freedom it gives me. I want the independence it gives me to stand on my own two feet and not be dependent on my parents or anyone else.
>I'm """""European"""""
Non-european and/or german cuckold detected
user, there's no cope anywhere in my post.
Dude is as gay as a french picnic under twin rainbows. He's an out actor.
Other dude has probably gotten his baloon not straightened out multiple times as well
Lol, cope harder, amerimutt. My country is nearly 15 centuries old. Americans wish the had history like Europeans do.
this
You can't lift "past this" as a non Manletk natty.
So what's your point.