I can't be the only one that unironically started to hate women after becoming fit. I can't look a woman into the eyes anymore without imagining the disgusting shit they have done.
I always knew that there were trash people out there, but becoming fit and more handsome made me realize that all the "shy" or "christian" or "traditional" girls are huge fucking sluts as well that only care about your face.
Its a fucking joke, you can treat women like trash, hell even insult them and they will still want to fuck/date you just because you're hot.
Fuck this life.
>inb4 hurrdurr not all women are the same, I have a tradthot gf that was totally a virgin when I met her Fuck off since you're probably getting cucked anyways and second off all, of course there are exceptions but a good 95% of women are trash.
Yeah I just went gay, sucking dick is actually quite nice and you can lift and play vidya with your bros too
Colton Bennett
>I always knew that there were trash people out there, but becoming fit and more handsome made me realize that all the "shy" or "christian" or "traditional" girls are huge fucking sluts as well that only care about your face.
Getting fit is a journey of total disillusionment. Women who wouldn't have given you the time of day are suddenly messaging you and everything else.
It's disgusting.
Gabriel Hill
are you not the same with women?
If a 10/10 was a total bitch and annoying but still wanted to fuck you, you'd fuck her, you know you would.
it seems they are basically all sluts but i dont see how this makes them trash. we are sluts as well m8
Matthew Morris
I started hating women years ago. I'd spend hours tailoring programs and diets for them, only to get a "that's hard user, Jamie found a water cleanse we're gonna do instead."
Brody Scott
>people care about looks >being fit makes more people want to fuck you
How is this is some new revelation that just now came to you, you complete fucking retard
Connor Allen
Whores, both men and women, deserve as much scorn and hatred as possible, my gf is pretty good, she came over for dinner last night, ended up cleaning my apartment and having sex after. She's fucked like 5 people before me, which isn't bad for a 27 year old, and she wants to have kids and get married.
Key is just to not think about it, unless she's a massive whore then just don't even bother talking to them lol
Catholic Bosnian gf is the key to happiness gains bois
Spoiler alert. Money, fame and status will get you laid just as much as being good looking.
You should be happy the world is full of hot sluts. Fuck a different one every week and see how far they will let you go. That’s what being a man is all about you beta bitch.
Blake Jackson
based
Anthony Lewis
rule of 3 fool
Josiah Phillips
Although it might sound gay but I wouldnt.
I am a virgin and soon to be 20 but have like 5 "christian" girls (all except one of them are pretty hot, maybe not 10s but at least 7s) on WhatsApp that told me they're down to fuck, but I refuse.
It fucking disgusts me, the worst of it all is that when I was fat no girl gave me attention but nowadays I unironically tell girls about my waifu and they still want to go out with me.
Jaxon Russell
>catholic >fucked 6 people before marriage
Your gf is a whore
Jason Fisher
>She's fucked like 5 people before me, which isn't bad for a 27 year old, and she wants to have kids and get married.
Sorry user, but she's going to have a BPD breakdown one day and take all your shit.
>that only care about your face t. seething facelet who thought he would get easy sluts by gaining muscle
Jordan Lee
>I unironically tell girls about my waifu and they still want to go out with me. this is the problem with having a fitness board on Jow Forums, we create scenarios like this
Blake Baker
>Although it might sound gay but I wouldnt.
Good work abstaining from hedonism, brother.
>It fucking disgusts me, the worst of it all is that when I was fat no girl gave me attention but nowadays I unironically tell girls about my waifu and they still want to go out with me.
Women are perhaps the most vile and vain creatures on the planet.
Makes sense; men are pretty much the same. The top 5% of each group pairs off with one another, leaving the bottom 95% to play head games and shriek about their counterparts on their respective internet safespaces (tumblr/Jow Forums).
All the guys mad at women for not fucking them are basically saying the following:
>Waahh I don't want to compete with other men. I deserve to have hot women sucking my salty pink shriveled nutsack even though I'm ugly, spineless and leeching off of everyone around me.
I'm sorry that society doesn't work in the favor of guys like you
Cameron Perez
>be OP >be a 25yo incel >thinks body count matters >thinks basic biological urge is unfair
You also wouldn't smash or marry a slampig, or some tradthot who has a munted face but you'd probably fuck all the 8/10 Stacey's that threw themselves at you.
They also don't want to fuck someone with a ripped body and a munted face, and want to experience multiple sexual partners.
Ryder Murphy
>She's fucked like 5 people before me, which isn't bad for a 27 year old, and she wants to have kids and get married. LOOK AT THE TOP OF HIS HEAD
not all of us lmao, if i were to be honest i want someone cute that i can mess around with and just treat like a friend but closer, you know what i mean? everyday that thought seems more and more unrealistic, it only happens in movies huh
Ryan Robinson
This week I fucked one of my long term FWB best friends without her knowing. The friend told me how she would suck me off anytime I wanted and do kinkier stuff. I think women view it as a competition and pride thing and feel good if you choose them over their friend.
This is actually basic game theory in PUA, you ignore the hot girl and hit on her friend to make her want you.
Eli Myers
Except the things that women bitch about are their own fault. They play all sorts of games, blame it on their BPD. On the other hand, we come here and (mostly) bitch about things that are womens' fault.
There's a common denominator.
Jordan Mitchell
you can have that with multiple people. idk i am in no position to be giving advice but it doesnt surprise me girls sleep around when it's so easy for them
Adam Butler
The thing is, being a slut is the same thing as being fat. It's a choice you make, and it's a choice means you are a worthless piece of shit.
If you can resist the temptation, you are a better person.
This is a fact.
Gabriel Rodriguez
>thinking sexual partners relates to marriage instability Correlation does not equal causation. I bet you think marriage was better in the 1800's because no-one divorced so everyone must have loved one another.
Logan Flores
>My problems aren't my fault, unlike THOSE people
This is why you, and most of this board is never going to reach that top percentile.
most virgins/one partner people simply dont betray because they dont have the chance to if you are an uggo and by luck you get married, that wont change the fact that no one else wanted you to begin with
Tyler Richardson
Incel cope. My high standards, and the low quality of modern women, is why I am alone.
Yes, because it's still a matter of resisting temptation. If a woman can't go out with hopping on a cock, how can she ever dedicate herself to becoming a wife and mother? She cannot.
i hooked up with my gfs best friend once and i noticed a similar dynamic, she was ridiculously keen to please me. except her friend had a conscience and became really weird and then told her.
i am terrible person btw, i felt literally no remorse about this. watching her cry was just kind of gross. interestingly while she was angry at me she started trying to please me sexually more as well
it seems people in general are prone to this sort of manipulation. idk about pua stuff but it is common sense to me that if you play people off each other you gain control over social dynamics
Ryder Harris
Both are bad. Resist degeneracy. Read your fucking bible.
The problem is our generation has an obsession with romantic love. That is not what marriage is about. Your purpose is to find someone you can get along with and create the next generation with. There is a reason men are traditionally far less active in child rearing than women. Men are breadwinners and should be out bonding with other men whilst providing food and shelter to their families. At the end of the day they return home and bond with their family. The majority of a mans time is meant to be in the company of other men, ensuring that women and children are safe and provided for. When you veer from this and no longer are predominantly in an environment where you can be yourself due to the prescence of women then you become bitter and jaded. Women who are out of their biological role too suffer for it, the result are men-hating sluts and women-hating cucks. Solution is to wife up someone you can tolerate who wants a traditional role, knock her up, build a career in a male dominated field. Or go gay and get a surrogate to procreate.
Jace Garcia
based dubs poster
Jace Perez
>Imagine calling someone a roastie for one the most basic rules when it comes to interpretation of data sets.
It's a cope when the stats don't line up with your worldview. You hear the same thing when you present black crime stats.
Everyone thinks they do that; few actually do. And the ones that are actually doing it don't spend this much emotional energy on blaming and hating others.
>only care about your face >slut There is literally nothing wrong with caring about genetic quality of your partner.
Zachary Rogers
his looks more original than yours tho
William Scott
>And the ones that are actually doing it don't spend this much emotional energy on blaming and hating others.
If you don't think that major life changes are also accompanied by disillusionment, then I don't know what to tell you. Making changes just helps you to understand how many factors there are outside of your control.
This desu. Sexual indulgence isn’t needed, it’s just proves you have no self control.
Michael Hughes
If you're still hung up on disillusionment, you aren't at the stage you claim to be at. Look at it any way you like, but seething resentment of others isn't compatible with proper Stoic discipline.
Jonathan Wilson
Dude you're right, but that's nothing to be pessimistic about. Men are shit, too.
Even good friends who who you love like brothers are pretty shit, too, when you classify things like that.
It's not about what other people are. That has nothing to do with it. It's about finding a way to enjoy your journey through it all. Caring about how shitty other people are is for unhappy people.
Nathan Smith
based
sad but true
I hate this world. Im going to live in the woods like varg until this sick soceity ends.
Jeremiah Jackson
Just stop giving a fuck and start trying to enjoy every single minute of your life because you've got nothing else to do
Jackson Gomez
>Stoicism
God, you people are as insufferable as Stirnerites
The longer you guys keep harboring views about women like this, the less likely you become to ever marry. You are not good at hiding it. I meet guys like you every single day. I'm a guy and I can pick up on it just from small talk- women can see it long before that even happens. They are smart. You are not going to fool them. You are not going to find the "virgin" to fulfill all your pol greentext dreams. You are not the hot shit you think you are. You don't have to be a cuck but that never meant go all the way to the other side. Stop before it's too late. There is no greater pain than dieing alone and unloved. And there is no greater joy than finding the one you are meant to be with.
Nathaniel Roberts
Incel
Josiah Kelly
Lmao I'm happy, I don't care
It's hard to find a girl with that low a body count, even in her early 20s
Do you think the people in this thread are just supremely autistic and have daily outbursts when they interact with women, or that maybe they're jaded from a series of poor experiences with ex-GFs?
It's a lot more of the latter than you'd think.
Alexander Martin
>he one you are meant to be with. surely you dont actually believe in this m8? we are 'meant' to produce children with any number of suitable mates
Asher Kelly
>It's hard to find a girl with that low a body count, even in her early 20s
It's all so tiring. Maybe I won't wake up tomorrow.
You honestly shouldn't give a shit. You should never ask. My wife is way higher than mine and I couldn't care less. If she's the right one for you, none of that stuff will matter.
Samuel Myers
Calling Stoicism insufferable doesn't discredit the school of thought; it just makes you look childish and contrarian.
Your () post is an attempt to grab at Stoic virtue you don't have. Call it whatever else you want if you're so butthurt about the terms. People successfully doing what you claim to be doing don't spend this much energy angrily rant against the world. Get as combative as you want against me and everyone else here, but it won't change that.
Xavier Morales
it's like you're asking to be cucked and lose all your shit in a divorce
Aaron Clark
>it just makes you look childish and contrarian.
No, it doesn't. Have you noticed how insufferable you're being at this very moment?
>Your ( (You)) post is an attempt to grab at Stoic virtue you don't have.
You what? I swear Stoics co-opt every single matter of life and claim it's a part of their philosophy. Changing yourself has nothing to do with Stoicism.
Hunter Smith
No, that's not it at all. See, you fucking snowflake I talk shit on women ALL day. I've had plenty of hot girls. The viewpoint incels is correct, however they don't go full circle in realzing that women are EASY, SIMPLE and there is an ABUNDANCE. You get fit, work on your finances and mindfully social condition yourself. Improve value. Then you slay. After the first 2-3 and progress towards goals it's incredibly easy to read what sond/dance (pretty much work, even if she doesn't conceptualize this) you do before getting to fuck her.
And yes, women can fufill you 100%. It's basic psychology. Social interaction does that in general. However, understanding the dynamics of getting them to fufill you systematically makes it a lot more rewarding. Then you actually have some choice and pull in the game.
I do. Don't care if you do or don't, that's up to you. But I found mine. Judge away You're letting that happen. You don't have to be jaded. Literally everyone gets hurt and it doesn't make you fucking special. That's actually a lot of grills favorite thing to say "I've just been through a lot...." I.e. She just got cheated on a few times. You can't let one person's actions dictate what you believe the next one is. Who wants to be judged against someones ex's? You're entirely different people. Are you accountable for all the white guys enslaving roodypoos or was that shit you had nothing to do with?
Owen Moore
>I'm a guy >women can see it long before that even happens. They are smart.
You are terrible at larping as a guy roastie.
Joshua Gonzalez
It’s the latter, at least in my experience. I can deal with talking to women and being around them, but I still know what they’re capable of and after all I’ve been through I don’t really feel like it’s worth the effort. That’s why I’m so misogynistic.
Easton Fisher
>Are you accountable for all the white guys enslaving roodypoos or was that shit you had nothing to do with?
i am not judging you but how do you square this belief with a rational understanding of humans as animals? Dont you think it's likely that it,s just an illusion of sorts?
Austin Morgan
This, women aren't brilliant social creatures. They just have weak frames, but valuable tits and ass. KEK
Sebastian Roberts
I don't see how what you said contradicts anything I just said.
Matthew Cook
Same, my man. I know how well they can hide it. Then, all of a sudden, they just spring this new craziness on you and ruin your life. It's happened to me, to all my friends. One of the world's most bizarre mysteries.
Maybe it happens in a month, maybe it happens after you've been married for 44 years, but it always happens.
Nicholas Phillips
>I can't be the only one that unironically started to hate people in general after becoming fit.
Men are the same exact way you dumb retard. Your point will stand when women insult men and they stop attempting to seduce them, or making them buy gifts in exchange for minimal attention. Being a hot women is considered easy mode for a reason.
William Thompson
Before Jow Forums: >You thought Scooby was natty >You thought Daniel Craig was big >You thought traps were gay >You thought we could be decent men in an indecent time
I'm not the one digging my heels in and screeching about evil whamen and blaming them for my unhappiness in life. That's you.
>Changing yourself has nothing to do with Stoicism.
That's the whole point of Stoicism; being able to recognize what's in your control so you can focus your efforts on that. Most of what's in your control is the self.
That's besides the point anyway. Get as hung up as you want on Stoicism, or Stirnerism, or how "insufferable" you think I'm being. You're just distracting yourself from what I've been saying: Your current behavior is contradicting what you claim to be doing (i.e: "changing the things you can change").
Jackson Nguyen
>the one you are meant to be with. That doesn't exist, there are a ton of people you're compatible with and a shit-ton more who aren't, stop believing the fairy tale bullshit
Jace Wood
>You are not the hot shit you think you are. Like I'm going to take advice from a fucking pedophile.
Let me explain it as best I can I say"meant to be" because that's what I've only ever learned to describe what I have. Idk if it was actually planned by some higher being or if it literally means someone else meant for us to meet and procreate. Idk. But the chances of either of us living past 20 was incredibly low, almost hopeless. Then the chances of us actually meeting is low as well and the fact that we love each other in the same way is also statistically improbable. Relationships are generally unbalanced are they not? The fact we can keep it together is also unlikely. Idk man. It's obviously complex and I can't show you through a chan post but you just know when it's happened to yourself. I know exactly how goofy it sounds. I beat that hopeful part of me out of myself and then she came around and changed all that. Sure it could be a biological illusion, but I still choose to believe in it. It has brought me too much happiness to just pass her off as another potential mate. Like if you could be my Best bro and just hang right next to me through it all, I know for a fact you'd understand exactly what I'm getting at.
