How did the ancients get so fucking juicy? Was Ancient Greece the most Jow Forums society in history?

that isn't anatomically accurate

>falling for the isolation exercises build muscle
>falling for the machines meme

tell me how i know you look like shit

>He thinks picking up rocks and wrestling nude with other guys can get you as big as modern day gym machines

user, I....

Your link proved nothing; it talked about a soup that gave them strength (in this context - not muscles ). They had zero knowledge of protein or any sort of nutrient background. Pls stop posting crap.

where do I buy blood to get into spartan mode fit?
this soup is probably nutritious af

that soup is almost 100 percent protein

>wrestling nude with other guys can get you as big
Oh it'll make me big alright

The pig legs (maybe if there is any meat left) is about it. Nothing in that ingredient list consists of any protein content.

>It's redpilled to fuck little boys instead of chasing pussy

What the FUCK? There are two perspectives here. Who hired this hack?

>>He thinks picking up rocks and wrestling nude with other guys can get you as big as modern day gym machin

yes? it will

Maybe 5 years later

>wikipedia

Never go full retard

Implies the inventors of western civilisation, mathematics, philosophy, real architecture, a people who based their society on finess, had no knowledge of what to eat.

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Imagine that tommorow you wake up in ancient Greece.

The sun is starting to shine, you wake up fully naturally, fully rested in perfect sync with your circadian rythm, you get dressed, kiss your wife and kids and go do your business, you're fasting.

You don't spend all morning in a chair, you fish in the morning and sell the fish in the afternoon, this takes 6 hours total, you have a six hour work day, you're relaxed, your cortisol is perfectly balanced.

It's almost time for lunch, you'll prepare a fish meal with some pork meat from the market you bought yesterday and some vegetables, the fish you fish are perfectly pure, the waters are untouched, pristine, pure, no pollution, the fish is full of Omega 3, the pork and veggies you will eat were grown without pesticides or females hormones, their as pure as you can get.

You have a nice meal with your friends, you take a nap after lunch, after you wake up you make love to your wife.

It's now time to sell, you go to the market and you do your thing, you snack on some bread grown just a few kilometers away.

The day is done, you're finished, you've made your money, you're happy and satisfied.

You get home and have a nice dinner with the family and you fall asleep naturally, another day awaits you.

>find guy that spent all his time on glutes
>study those
>find different guy that spent all his time on his chest
>study him
>find another guy that foucsed on obliques
>study him
>combine various observations and the golden ratio into a single ideal whole

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Now, let's compare this to the modern man.

You wake up after 7 hours of sleep, you've been trying to fall asleep sooner but you still can't do it for some reason, but no matter you have to wake up because you have to go to work.

Oh ahit you're late, you forgot to iron your shirt, you get it done quickly but you had no time for breakfast, that's ok you're just fasting you tell yourself.

Time for work, after driving in traffic for a few minutes if you're lucky you get to work, shit you're late, the cortisol response already kick-started, you got no sun in your skin so far as well, you enter the office and you have your cup off coffe.

You sit down for 4 hours of work, you don't like it and you don't hate it, it's just what you do.

Ah for hours have passed, time for lunch, you only have 1 hour of lunch time so better make it quick, you go to the closest restaurant and you get some meat and vegetables, the meat is factory farmed hormone filled meat and the veggies are full of pesticides that would cause you to have low tier inflammation, but that's ok you say as you have your glass of conventional grown milk, at least it ain't onions.

Back at work, 4 more hours, your boss tells you to fix your schedule is tired of you arriving late, it's 3pm now and the afternoon slump it's at its peak, everyone in the office has some coffee, better not take a nap and rest, better keep working, ignore the cortisol.

Work is finished, now let's go to the gym, you're on 7 hours of sleep, you're doing something you have no skin in the game for work and now you're going to lift some iron, your cortisol and testosterone are already out of whack from the messed up sleep, bpas, ohtalates, xenostrogens, tap water, store receipts, low grade chronic stress...

You get home after working out, it's now close to 8 pm you have one hour to make dinner and go to sleep, better hurry up if you want to get that 8 hours of sleep.

You also have no wife or kids because it's to expensive.

The point of these stories is that environmental factors and nutrition are the bedrock for building muscle.

It's more beneficial to have cortisol/nutrition/testosterone optimized and not lift than to lift and have all these levels out of whack, look it up there's a study on this from Cambridge university I think.

Greeks didn't have any of this shit, you in the other hand are plagued by the modern world, you're worse than a Roman slave, you don't follow the natural rythm of humanity, you're a slave to a machine.

It's all about the nutrition and cortisol and testosterone, ignore exercise first, fix those, then start lifting.

You have a lot of time on your hands.
Do a PhD or something.

>reddit spacing

Good posts bro. How do you deal with the cortisol when it comes to commutes and what other advice you got on the balance besides circadian rhythm and nutrition?

sage

>instead of chasing pussy
Nigger, the Greeks spent a decade at war chasing after the pussycream.

The greeks also had low bpdyfat due to the heat and conditions around the Meditterainean. A fisherman in norway might be a lot bigger and have a higher Bf% due to having to weather a colder climate.

>squat rock
>deadlift rock
>bench rock
>upright row rock
>eat banquet made by slaves then sleep 9 hours
>lift heavier rocks next time
but user

>people actually believe this is what life looked like in the past
how fucking naive are you, kid?

>wake up in Ancient Greece
>bed is full of bugs and shit, it's hot out already but you have to go work the fields anyway with rudimentary tools and what little livestock you can afford
>start day off by beating wife, threatening children in order to keep morale up
>accidentally break your favorite urn, it'll take months to get a new one
>youngest child is turning out pretty ugly, go dash it's brains on some rocks
>accidentally crack tooth on rock in your food
>get dental infection, die
truly an idyllic life, free of the stress and woes that plague modern man. So noble, so free.
>t. someone who jerks off to Disney's Hercules

be a greek
spend most my prime in the military
be forced to eat shitty food bcs muh strength
be forced to fight other ppl bcs someone just said so
basically be raised to be a killer thief asshole
can only fuck other men bcs not allowed to marry yet
after years of service can finally start a family
have plenty of kids bcs most of them will die young anyway
spend the rest of my life working hard afraid of war, famine, plague, invasion, injury, animals and gods

oh what a life
in harmony with my natural self

>would have been able to get the amount of food required to get that big?

These ancient societies were all agrarian communities, and Greek city-states were near the ocean to take advantage of seafood. Why do people think there was like universal widespread famine in every ancient culture ever? The only way you can start a civilization in the first place is if you're generating a food surplus.

>Not to mention that no one knew anything about building muscle and how to do it.

The concept of progressive overload comes to us from a Greek you FUCKING BRAINLET

Life is bullshit in general. Doesn't matter when and where you live, it's nothing but trash.

Tbh I wrote this on my phone after waking up.

I don't leave hours away from my work, I have short term goals, I use the sauna every week, I sleep and wake up naturally with no alarm clock, I have a happy ending massage every weekend with a different women, sometimes I fuck them if no gf I'm also doing nofap so I'm a beast, I eat great meals, I socialise with funny people etc etc etc

I'm balanced

Twas just an example but pork dausages fishing and families deff existed in ancient Greece.

>Cracking teeth in food

Americans should be banned

The absolute state of machinelets

It was a dick between the thighs situation, not anal

You’re an idiot

Because they ate mostly vegan diet

I appreciate the sentiment but there are many wrong things. He would get up before dawn today fish at dawn and sell by early morning. Also fishermen have usually been very poor

Actually ancient greeks depending on times, had a abundance of food such as lentils and cheeses. Greeks didn't knew about muscle building? FFS aristotle used as a argument for one of his political opinions, how much food will a trainer set for someone to eat depending on his training experience and activity.

Regardless you get what I was trying to convey.

yeah ill-informed and unwarranted pining for a time that you know nothing about

Shit like that never happened
Stop thinking the past was some kind of hell

Yes not me by the way. He’s kind of right though life is always kind of shit and some lucky ones have it nicer at any time. Now is the best time to be low class I think

Didnt really work that way outside of Lacedaemonia

Citizens had periodical training in peacetime in most cities, but didnt reach spartan autism.
Free meen could learn a trade, work, get jacked and throw javelines with the brehs, study, go fucc whores, go party etc etc

Poor people, foreigners and slaves were fucked though

Foreigners had higher tax and couldn’t vote but definitely not fucked

better to be prepared for struggle than numbed against it like we are today. You fucking pussy.

The fish may have parasites and you agonize terribly to death

Maybe your wife caught the flu and all your family dies as a result

Maybe there was draught, and barely any food in many kilometers

Or some persian cunt decided to fuck hellas up and you, your wife, your daughter and possibly your dog get raped to death by some pre towelheads

Maybe your neighbours dog bites you in one leg and you lose it completely, leaving you crippled and your family relying on handouts

But it doesnt matter because your circadian rhythm is on point

>implying death by cancer is any better than death by flu or plague
have you ever been around someone who died of cancer? it's miserable all the way through

Eat Black pudding user it's tasty as fuck and full of blood

Are you implying cancer is as common as any one of the myriad of infectious diseases that was practically a death sentence just until less than a century ago?

I bet seing your whole family agonize with you while you die is worse

Biggest retard on Jow Forums right now.

yes, cancer is pretty damn common nowadays.

you are dumb manchild, sir

This. Nobody was gonna make a statue of a fat slob when it took so long to make. Let's hope the future doesn't judge us based off fitness magazines

i'm gonna need a whole lot of citations for such outlandish claims

>They knew the truth about the eternal thot, and chose to perfect their bodies and minds instead of chasing pussy.
citation needed
>hurrrr le ebin redpill based greaks :DDD
imagine trying to squeeze history into your cringe-inducing, skewed and retarded worldview

> all work was physical
What is politician? What is a philosopher? What is a poet/writer?

Underrated post

Arnold Schwarzenegger

>some bread grown just a few kilometers away
Yeah. This is the key to great gains. You buy domesticated bread instead of hunting it in the woods. Jesus Christ, this board.

Doing bodyweight exercises (hard ones) and eating a lot of animal protein will build a good physique especially with the genes and test levels they must have had.

It's a bit of a fitness industry con that you need supps/powerlifting equipment/some dumb training plan in order to see any gains. It's just nonsense.

How the fuck they then anatomically knew how extremely jacked people would look like if they had no possible reference back in the day?

You're retarded, they discovered that progressive overload was the key to building muscle. They founded the olympics ffs
>who is milo of croton
carried a four-year-old bull on his shoulders before slaughtering, roasting, and devouring it in one day. He was said to have achieved the feat of lifting the bull by starting in childhood, lifting and carrying a newborn calf and repeating the feat daily as it grew to maturity t.wikipedia

>But it doesnt matter because your circadian rhythm is on point

Yep, testosterone, cortisol and nutrients are more important than exercise when it comes to muscles.

Hellene was a mythical woman you idiot!

what a fucking brainlet. disgusting!

I was waiting for this comment.

You are a fucking moron if you think cancer is more common than all the inane shit we manage to not die of anymore, combined. From illnesses that would now be considered trivial to infections to childbirth.

>U merlin' breh
>Arkadios, brother, you are not expected to survive the night
>Check this vein, fucking nasty vascularity bro
>I promise ill take care of...
>Fuarrkkk lmao 2javelin pr 4spoonfuls cmon

>your cortisol and testosterone are already out of whack from....store receipts

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>Their gyms would have just been them lifting big rocks and other primitive shit. They didnt have machines to isolate muscle groups or anything like that.
lol what
do you really think you need "machines" to get big?

>not realizing wikipedia has sources you can verify
>falling for the "wikipedia is always bad" meme

>How did the ancients get so fucking juicy? Was Ancient Greece the most Jow Forums society in history?
No. Their society just naturally punished genecels. Our society actually encourages reproduction of inferior genes, like some sort of reverse eugenics.

Humanity today is genetically inferior to humans 2500 years ago. Don't believe me? Why are your test levels lower than your grampa's who had to ration his food like a hobo?

You are one naive faggot

You're a retard.
In that story you made up, everything is bad because of stupid decisions, not because of the environment.
You could create an even worse story for a modern man.

Oh god bro stfu.
>"Free weight compounds with minimum volume is all you need"
>t. Blaha follower

Environmental factors are a thing buddy

I mean, he missed the part where the fishing would have been back breaking labor that required exceptional fitness, that you would eventually have to take up arms to defend your polis and family as well as the fact that being a fisherman means you're probably very poor and would of, if you were an Athenian at least, have had to serve in the navy as well as spent a couple of hours sitting around and listening to sophists trying to wheedle their client's way out of petty crime so you could grab a couple of oblongs and buy your pork, but he isn't exactly wrong.

>How many people do you think would have been able to get the amount of food required to get that big?
Every free citizen. The only ones who were malnourished were the slaves. And there were like 70% slaves and 30% citizens.

Underrated.

They trained combat from childhood on. It was a dangerous world where you'd have to defend yourself. Even with poor nutrition, your mucles can reach its potential when you're constantly training

Bruv with our fucking luck, all of us would have been slaves

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This. I’ve also seen first hand that it’s a meme that you need to eat 5 cows every day to get bigger.

I’m barely in noob gains territory. I’ve been trying to cut by eating less shit. Iv been eating less and I still managed somehow to gain more weight and look broader from strength training. Caloric surplus is not that hard to achieve

arriba espana

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