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actually this. good practise for posture and grip. keeps the blood flowing and muscles limber.

I rearrange all the weights on the rack, heaviest at the bottom and lightest at the top

we got the same shit user

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>breaking etiquette out of autismal defiance

You're worse than the standard, careless people who leave weights lying around.

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It's not convenient, I'm stronger that almost all of Jow Forums and you bet I start with the bar on every lift.

My gym has a sign all over the place that states something like, "if you can't place the weight back down softly, you can't lift it. Also, no gym chalk."
Its placed at the deadlift area where rubber matts and bumper plates are used. I don't understand the reasoning and logic of this.

Sounds like you go to a health spa, not a gym.

this tbqh.

Here's what probably happened:
>one overly loud ego lifter slamming weights as hard as possible
>one irritable midwestern mall cow gets triggered by the disturbance and demands to see the manager, because she cant do 2.5 lb hip abduction exercises *and* fantasize about Dairy Queen while Grug is trying to make a barbell crater in the ground .
>manager throws sign up to avoid future headache

There are 2 different options here.

1: Everybody reracks the weights after they are done.

2: Everybody leaves the weights on and adjust the weight at the start of the exercise.

Both ways you have to rerack weights, but using the 2nd method there are instances where people don't have to remove some or even any of the weights on the equipments, thus reducing the total amount of weights being put on and off the equipment by everybody

Technically leaving your weights on the equipment after you are done means less work for everybody and is the considerate thing to do.
Debate me Jow Forums

I really don't understand this. I wish I could catch people in the act of not re-racking their shit just so I can punch them in the face.

My entire day was fucked up yesterday because one of the two power racks (other was occupied) had 25lb bumper plates sitting on the bar. I needed to do OHP first that day, but since I couldn't, I wanted to wait to see what kind of douchebag was using bumper plates on the power rack. Note that the deadlift platform is on the other side of the gym, and it's the only place where the bumper plates are located, not to mention it's pointless since there are 25lb regular plates on the rack already. No one showed up after 30 mins of me doing other exercises and eyeing the rack the whole time.

Some asshole walked across the gym, got two 25lb bumper plates from the deadlift platform, brought them to the power rack, and left them on the bar after he was done. I was fucking livid.

People don't re-rack their shit constantly at my gym, but I can never catch anyone doing it. But the bumper plate in the power rack thing got me extra salty.

It's not even the fact that I have to re-rack people's shit, but people don't seem to give a shit that other's are going to end up waiting like idiots to use a piece of equipment because they think it's still being used, when in reality it's some piece of human garbage that just didn't feel like taking 10 seconds to put away their plates.

I swear to god, once I buy my house I'm making the garage into a home gym.

That's just going to benefit ego-lifters and people slapping on way too much weight and fuck over everyone else.

>faggot gets 5 pl8 on smith machine
>does 2% ROM squat
>'lol this is somebody else's problem now!'

your autism is showing

most likely. But here is another thing. If you pay an extra $10 or $20 a month (forgot how much), you get access to this room where you can do exactly that. Use gym chalk and bang the weights. Some grimey shit

How are you supposed to know if a piece of equipment is free to use if there's still weight on it? Do I need to ask nearby people every single time for every single exercise? Someone using this? Someone using this? Hey, is someone using this? *waits 2 mins for them to take headphones off*. Hey is someone using this?

I bet I know all their answers already.
>a shrug followed by an "idk" expression

Yea, seems pretty efficient, user.

Unironically black people.

>gym DLC

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>get on hammerstrength
>2 45's already on there
>use it and be on my way

>carry dumbbells from one side of the gym to the other
>bring them back when i'm done

it's all relative mayn

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its only considerate if you actually ask the person who is using it next if they want it on or off. Some people want it on, some people want to start with an empty barbell. You are just assuming everyone thinks like you

lol, this is pretty true. I literally have to do this every time i go to the gym. There are like 5 guys around a squat rack that is loaded and I have to ask each of them if they are using it. They all say they dont know...

kek

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>its considerate to not rerack weights
>rules were literally made due to so many complaints

i can see thinking is not something you do

People who dont rerack their weights should be executed on the spot. Same for 'people' littering.

I purposely leave weights on ground to assert my alpha dominance among gymcels

That’s not convenient. You’re a fucking moron. Start with the bar.

i saw some skinny kid load up 225lbs on a barbell just to think about squatting it but not actually doing it and leaving the gym. are you that kid?

Jesus christ you’re retarded. This thread is costing me a significant amount of faith in humanity.

You’re not alone.

>autism
You may actually be autistic if you think reasonable indignation = autism

This is why its important to interact with people. Otherwise you end up like this idiot talking like a sociopath.

same

Only good argument against it, apart from "it's just how the rules are bro".
For people with physical limitation that still want to work out it could be a problem to rerack 200kg of weights.

>local man dies of starvation waiting next to barbell that had weights loaded up despite being unoccupied
You know what a towel is? And how would you occupy anything that isn't a barbel using weights?

If everybody played by the same rules, my method is more efficient. Of course in a normal gym most people prefer you to remove the weights, since they will remove them afterwards anyway.

Not even trying.

1/5

In my gym absolutely no one reracks anything. I really don't mind, except for the idiots who leave other equipment like dumbells lying around.

>warm up on empty bench with clean bar
>move over to the one with plates on it

OHP warmup?

Never gonna make it

>my method is more efficient
>implying everyone wants to start with 135lb loaded on bar already

I could understand for deadlifts. But if someone wants to start off with just the barbell, they have to unload and reload rather than just adding weights onto it from no weights. How is that more efficient?

Isnt that what the gym manlets are for?

They would have to unload the weights afterwards anyway not using my method.
So in the most extreme case, like you described, the total work is the same. (Excluding that the guy before you might have loaded up way more, again the amount of work that is spent racking weights in the gym decreases overall)

>the total work is the same
>my method is more efficient

again, if its the same how is your method more efficient? Also, how is it the same when you have to unload, reload, and unload again if you can just load and then unload if the barbell had been empty?

>Add more plates to the bar once I'm finished so the next person thinks I'm strong

>local man dies of starvation waiting next to barbell that had weights loaded up despite being unoccupied
I'm not waiting forever. I'm waiting long enough so that I know it's not occupied. Not the end of the world, but it's extremely inconvenient, especially if you're supposed to be doing a routine in a specific order. Can you imagine how shitty it would be if you had to wait 10 minutes before using every piece of equipment. Is 10 minutes even enough? How long do you have to wait to determine something's not being used. An asshole who doesn't re-rack their shit is easily capable of taking retarded 15min rests between sets.

>You know what a towel is?
Yes, but believe it or not, if your enough of a douche to not re-rack weights, you're probably douche enough to not use a towel. Not to mention, only exercises using benches can be denoted as "occupied" with a towel, unless you swing your sweaty towel over the squat bar like it's hanging out to dry between every set.

>And how would you occupy anything that isn't a barbel using weights?
Who's talking about barbells? Your entire argument for not re-racking was that it's easier to leave weight on so that the next person can adjust it accordingly. Barbells have nothing to do with that, and re-racking them is even more important considering they need to be in their designated spots otherwise you have to search the floor for them.

You write like a fag, and your shit's all retarded.

>its considerate for me to go against what everyone wants

I dont think you understand the word considerate.

If you don't rack your weights you're a faggot. Plain and simple.

The only exception MIGHT be maybe it's okay to leave 1pl8 on the hip sled machine because nobody is ever going to do less than that.

Agree absolutely. However I'm home gym master race now so I don't have to worry about people who weren't raised properly in my space anymore.

just rerack the weights dude. Its really not that hard.

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>not even trying, 1/5

An act isn't considered considerate if you have to explain yourself you douche.

F*ck off back to you racist asshat. Niggers are people just like you and me.

Trolled lol.

>what are warm up sets

i dont blame this guy for thinking like an asshole. People actually don't realize they are an asshole until everyone literally points it out. And even then, some assholes deny it and keep being an asshole and am confused when no one agrees.

>makes series of alarmingly terrible arguments
>eventually admits that no one in his gym reracks
OK so you live in some third world shithole and lack access to decent education. This explains the utterly shitty state of your basic reasoning skills.

Most of the gyms I've been to are predominantly black. The only folk who don't ever seem interested in putting back their weights are the older folk that either forget or run out of steam too quickly, the newcomers that can easily be corrected (which we've recently gotten a huge spike off since everyone thinks now is the time to get that beach body) with gym etiquette explanations, or the assholes that just seem to do silly shit for attention. It's a mixed bag that ignores race entirely.

Dude doesn’t lift. Don’t expect him to know that you don’t just walk up to the bar and start with your 1rm. Summer is here.

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Okay i'm going to explain this so all of you brainlets can follow my logic:
This is a very simplified example, but it translates to a larger system without any issues

You have 4 guys working out after one another using the same bench station. Guy A, B, C and D.

Method 1 would be to rerack all of your weights after you are done lifting.

Method 2 would be to leave all your weights on the bar when you are done and rerack them at the start of your workout if necessary.

Method 1:

Guy A benches 80kg. He loads 60kg on the bar and removes it after he is done.
Total weight moved on/off the bar = 120kg

Guy B benches 100kg. He loads 80kg on the bar and removes it after he is done.
Total weight moved on/off the bar = 120kg + 2x80kg = 280kg

Guy C benches 60kg. He loads 40kg on the bar and removes it after he is done.
Total weight moved on/off the bar = 280kg + 2x40kg = 360kg

Guy D benches 120kg. He loads 100kg on the bar and removes it after he is done.
Total weight moved on/off the bar = 360kg + 2x100kg = 560kg

Method 2

Guy A starts his workout and finds 100kg loaded up on the bar. He does a warmup set, so he removes all the weight and then loads up 60kg.
Total weight moved on/off the bar = 160kg

Guy B starts his workout and finds 60kg loaded up on the bar. Since he benches 80kg, he only loads up another 20kg
Total weight moved on/off the bar = 160kg + 20kg = 180kg

Guy C starts his workout and finds 80kg loaded up on the bar. He removes 40kg since he benches 60kg total.
Total weight moved on/off the bar = 180kg + 40kg = 220kg

Guy D starts his workout and finds 40kg loaded up on the bar. He does a warmup set, so he removes all the weight and then loads up 100kg. The bar is loaded up with 100kg, exactly as Guy A found it.
Total weight moved on/off the bar = 220kg + 40kg + 100kg = 360kg

As you can see my method is a lot more efficient. The "worst case" is that all 4 guys do a warmup set with just the bar. In that case both methods are the same.

>implying everyone in the world doesn't use the barbell to warm up
>this is considered worse case scenario

Even the strongest olympic lifters and powerlifters warm up with just the barbell. You are only being considerate to yourself if you truly believe everyone does not use the barbell to warm up.

>In that case both methods are the same.
>my method is more efficient

I don't think you understand the word efficient.

>As you can see my method is a lot more efficient

only if everyone in this entire world didn't warm up with the barbell

It's still hilarious that you would wait just because there is a loaded bar.
It's basic gym etiquette to put your stuff next to the equipment you are using.

>Yes, but believe it or not, if your enough of a douche to not re-rack weights, you're probably douche enough to not use a towel.
Nice line of argumentation.

>Who's talking about barbells? Your entire argument for not re-racking was that it's easier to leave weight on so that the next person can adjust it accordingly. Barbells have nothing to do with that, and re-racking them is even more important considering they need to be in their designated spots otherwise you have to search the floor for them.
You obviously lack basic reading comprehension. I asked how you would mark something as occupied that isn't a barbell, not the barbells themselves.
As in, how would you mark something like a pullup bar? A towel, right?

My arguments are all sound, literally none of them have been refuted in this entire thread.
There are a few arguments to be made for reracking weights after your workout like not troubling gym members that have physical limitations or that the workload would be distributed towards weaker people (which i guess is why you are all getting so mad), but the fact remains that my method is less work in total

obvious troll is obvious.

Are you really this fucking dense.

Yes it is likely that most people warmup with just the bar. This is less likely for something like a DL for example.

It still remains the WORST CASE, which makes it the same amount of work.
So to sum up, my method has a 0% chance of being less efficient and a >0% chance of being more efficient.
Did you all fail 3rd grade math?

I think most of them are bitter virgins with some passive aggressive tendencies. It's a typical beta trait.

you are literally using specific numbers to represent the population and you are sitting there telling me to go along with your averages and standard deviations as a good statistic. Yeah, good one.

Method 3: Real Life

a) Some cunt can't be fucked to remove the weights they've just used. Now I have to take off all the plates so that I can load my starting weight before I can use it

b)The bench and bar are both clear. I add my starting weight. Fin
>Guess which one is both easier and preferable

you're not using real world figures here. People lift a variety of weights and both starting and finishing weights can vary a lot.
Do a little survey the next few times you're in the gym and you'll get a better picture on whether your theory works out or not

I don't even think you know what a standart deviation is. Literally nothing i or anybody else said in this thread has anything to do with standart deviation.
I gave you a very very easy to understand example, since you seem incapable of understanding this concept in theory.
Do you really want me to make a mathematical theorem out of it?

Tell me please. Do you actually believe that there is any scenario in this universe where my method is less efficient?
Please elaborate on that. Embarrass yourself some more.

Are you such a low life cretin you are not able to theoretically think about something? Is everything in your brain directly related to your experiences and feelings?
These are the people giving lifting advice here i guess

>tolerating and obeying passive-agressive signs/behaviour ever

Never gonna make it

What if I train to literal failure and can't even lift my arms?

EA GYM

I always rerack weights and always wipe down benches. Sometimes during rests I'll sort the pl8s on the rack in a way that isn't fucking retarded and haphazard. Fucking animals at the gym, man, especially at some of the bigger ones. The gyms in my hometown are relatively neat, while the fucking armenians at the gym near my school leave the place a god damn sty.

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>Did you fail 3rd grade math?
>I didn't say anything about math

quit trolling

Imagine spending so much time creating a fake argument and pretending to be retarded just to try upsetting anonymous people you don't know on the internet.

Fucking hell, it's a sad thing to see.

Niggers
It’s niggers every time

>passive-aggressive
>clearly describes what it's asking you to do

It's bitchy at worst but it's not passive-aggressive. Passive-aggressive would be
>MOMMY ISN'T HERE TO CLEAN UP AFTER YOU

Lmao

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>Tell me please. Do you actually believe that there is any scenario in this universe where my method is less efficient?
>Please elaborate on that. Embarrass yourself some more.
I guess not then.
Stay mad kiddo

My gym has signs that say something like
>If you're too weak to rerack your weights, ask one of the girls at the desk to help you

As far as I can tell, most of the people who can't rerack their own weights are also too intimidated to ask the desk staff.

>What are they, retarded or something?
It's even worse when they take off all the weights they were using, and put them on one peg. The 5 first, then the 10, then the 25, then the 45, so then you've gotta go through all that shit to get a 5.

I have already theoretically thought about what you've said, which lead to me providing my own theory
In case it was too complicated for you, my theory is you're incorrect

>people on my gym leave every single bar loaded
>they leave dumbells lying around
>belts far away from racks and weights
>new plates on old rack and old plates on new rack
>all the plates on old rack
>stacks of 20s and 15s lying on the side of a rack
>20s on 15s place, 15s on 10s and 10s on 15s
WHY?

>is there a scenario where my method is less efficient
>can't even think of ways when method is less efficient

jesus christ you are dumb

>not realising that the sign obviously isn't for you
Fucking aspies

Yes. When a kid can only bench 115lbs and has to deload 45lb plates just so he can warm up to 115lbs rather than just loading up to 115lbs.

There’s never an empty bench in south florida

You don't know what passive-aggressive means.

Yeah, you only need TWO empty benches for this retarded idea to work, instead of just one, which is often difficult enough. Fucking brilliant.

there are no empty bars remember, retardo makes us keep the weights on because it's "more efficient"

>t. 2pl8 bench

he said stronger than most of Jow Forums didn't he?

Kek

And instead of deloading his plates after he is done, he has to deload beforehand.

The point i am making is that there is no scenario.
That's why i am challenging you.
Actually baffles me that either so many people are incapable of some logical thinking or that i am getting baited this hard

what happens if every/most time I need the bench I have to take off more weights than I leave? Is that fair, or easier, for me?