This guy is claiming on Reddit that this progress was achivied in a year

How tall is that dude if the doorknob at his navel?

Sorry I don't work at Hot Topic

you would be surprised at the gains you can make when you're short and extremely dedicated - he looks young too so chances are he didn't have much to do in the way of responsibilities other than workout, eat, and sleep

5'11. And he has a bulk pic at 187 where he looks natty as fuck, he's just really low body fat. No pump in a shirt he'd possibly look like a twink desu.

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Can't be anymore than 5'7, I'm 6'3 and the doorknobs at my place are like dick height.

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are you a bunch of little kids? left pic downward angle shoulders and face away like a little bitch, right picture pretending not to flex turned shoulders toward camera neck up core engaged. he's a womanly little dilettante but also has fat on the right. it's not impressive.

OH fuck yeah bud.

Dude looks a pussy anyway

Yes plus he's definitely a manlet, so yeah

Why does it matter?

some people get their height more from their legs and others from their spine. not really a great way to measure it

I did this in 4 months lol.

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post routine

Diet is key

so post routine and diet

he roids lmao

>roiding for this

yes

He literally ate meals consisting of keys and only keys

Thanks for the hating fag I’m natural

Lol what are angles.. I can make my face look like a potato and I'm a handsome mother fucker

Schlage or Master?

Those old keys you use to lock china cabinets are for cutting season

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Youve pulled this same shit 3 times already that ive seen and always admit the roids in the end. Plus youre not even big lmao the only thing sort of impressive about the pic is how small your waist is and thats genetic anyway. Shoulda skipped the roids senpai it woulda took longer but you could have looked the same and not had to lie about it over and over

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swallowing fat loads all day gives you more protein than most dudes fag

tell me how u did it babes

they're called skeleton keys

how big's your waist?

maybe to you skellyfag soibois

>says the so᠌yboy

>admitting to browsing reddit

I remember when that would have the whole thread turning against you calling you a faggot, now you cunts seem to be willing to talk about which subreddits are the best and wear it with a badge of pride
fucking kill yourself

also maybe

>Its another anavar+dbol fag tries to claim natty episode...

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>Is it possible?
Sure. But as soon as he stops taking the 'roids, it'll all start to melt away and he'll look worse than he did to start with.

delusional. From where he started, a 6 month bulk and a 4 month cut easily gets the end picture. End picture is definitionally DYEL ottermode. Nothing impressive and anyone else in this thread who thinks he's on juice is delusional lmao.

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He literally has the same jaw in the before pic.

OP's progress is possible natty if he had a personal trainer and knew 100% what he was doing from the outset, and stuck to it rigorously. I doubt he had any of that though.

Who cares.

fuck I laughed

I made way more progress than that in a year.

Fags from other sites defect here and stay here because no thought police permabans them for something as mundane as disagreeing.

m.youtube.com/watch?v=F-glHAzXi_M

>tfw 21 inch floor-to-knee
>tfw 21 inch knee-to-hip
>tfw 21 inch hip-to-shoulder
You say what bastard bitch?

Yes

Fag

if he's under 6 foot tall then yes it is definitely possible natty.

Isn't it funny how everyone who makes good progress is on ppl.
It's almost as ifcthree bah fahves is a meme

hes probably 5'2

>the size of that hand
>the size of that head

really makes you think

7 months
Im 190cm

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A year and a pump
Wow its fucking nothing

Yes, user. He doesn't look that good at all.

user, theres no way someone will progress in a stupid 3 exercise routine like SS.

Lel, looks just like me.
It fucking sucks

You can get most of that progress by losing weight, it’s clear he had muscle before just under fat

Totally possible. Even in 6 months. You just have to rip yourself apart 4 times in a week.

I can do it in 5 weeks

>Been lifting for years
>Tracking calories and macros
>Still look no where near as good as him

absolutely, you can see he's already got some musculature in the left pic

a young natty can clock 18lbs of lean muscle gains in a year assuming right routine and nutrition
combine that with drastic obvious reduction in bodyfat percentage which makes those muscle pop out more
= clearly achievable, especially when you factor in better lightning, better tan, flexing and an obvious after work-out pump

which isn't to say this guy is natty, he might have fucked around for 10 months then just done roids for 2. generally the way to tell if someone roided or not is to check the timeframe they claim they got their results in.

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I've been lifting on and off since 2010 and I still haven't stopped being chubby. I'm not tall so I can't pull off being chubby either.

yeah he just lost a lot of bodyfat

I have trained only 3 months now and im 6'3'',i look almost better than that guy, im doing 2 full bodyworkouts per week and training neck 7x week + eating 4k calories.

Not likely naturally but absolutely with steroids.

> i took roids on a cut in 4 months
Wow. Amazing.

>manlet
>still in puberty for them insane high test gains
yes its possible you dyel

You either look like shit at 3 months or you are on gear. Post photo and I'll tell you.

don't bully him pls he seems like a good lad

>Cut from 30% body fat to 10% in 4 months
>gained muscle mass

Ask me how I know something isn't right :)

i would curb stomp every faggot who think that you can gain muscle mass on a cut. This is impossible weather or not you are on steroids you dumb cunt

> you need roids for this

have you ever considered not eating carbs

just eat meat and fats and you'll drop a few %bf

absolutely

> This is impossible weather or not you are on steroids you dumb cunt

just stop eating carbs every damn day, man
even if you do sort of vince gironda/ud 2.0 diet (carb loading every 4 days), you'll lose plenty of fat while retaining muscle

however if you do stop eating carbs altogether and focus on meat and animal fats, you will drop %bf while gaining mass
why?
1. lack of insulin peaks, so there's no order to accumulate fat; 2. all the protein you consume will either be used for gluconeogenesis (to feed the brain) or to build up tissue; 3. dietary fat is either consumed or excreted, it's not stored on fat cells (both will satiety trigger first, and lack of proper pathway, due to lack of insulin peaks)

What did you do? Routines, diets?

user your normie is showing

>different angle
>different lighting
>tanned
>different posture

This is not a good comparison picture, but sure, he could do that in a year even without roids

your incel is showing

Proper training and nutrition in 6 months, but for noobies theres always that learning perioid.
If you are not succeeding fast enough, you are not failing fast enough. To avoid one is to avoid both.

Yes, and not that difficult, especially if he has any background in sports at all, which he probably did, based on his chest and shoulders in the before.

Yes. Welcome to Manlet.

You are literally talking shit.

Carbs are more important to tissue construction than protein you moron. You need some protein, you need a lot of energy.

Kek pathetic

nice meme

you'll lose all your strength and it will affect you in other areas other than lifting too, no libido due to being constantly t ired, less optimal cognitive performance and all that shit

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> giving solid advice
>You are literally talking shit.
it's always the same when it comes to nutrition

>Carbs are more important to tissue construction
unless you're a plant building cellulose walls, they're not
cells are constituted mainly of FATTY ACIDS with conjugated proteins or glucose and PROTEINS by itself (such as many collagens)
guess what? the body is ready to convert proteins to glucose by gluconeogenesis whenever it needs
so no extraneous glucose is needed even though it's tolerated and used
however, it should come as obvious that in order to glucose gets used as energy source, it MUST be converted to fatty acids by krebs cycling it
on top of that, if the glucose is excessive and could be stored, it will be stored in form of fatty acids in fatty cells, not starch such as glycogen except for small amounts

You can stick those plugs right up your tunnel you basedboy

What's the matter, didn't get the answers you wanted in the r/nattyornot? Dude, don't be such a fucking pansy. Why are you so triggered by this guy?

>you'll lose all your strength and it will affect you in other areas other than lifting too, no libido due to being constantly t ired, less optimal cognitive performance and all that shit
yes, you will feel all that symptoms, but only on the first few weeks, due to transitioning from life long carb extraneous relying to actually producing it whenever it's needed
after that period, it's pretty much the opposite of what you said, as you may find in any keto/paleo/zerocarb/whatever communities you look, and as supported by the few studies available as well
not surprisingly, many of those reports will come from people who used to be vegetarians (highly dependent on carbs), so the improvements are even more striking than one would expect

keto shills should either start posting their bodies or get the fuck out

community filled with fatties looking for miracles, obviously you lose weight with keto after dropping carbs or might as well say, donuts, pizzas and other trash

>what is lighting?
>what are angles?
>what is arm pressed against lat? aka what is posing?

newfags, please.

Steroids are basically magic

If it takes you more than 6 months to get that then you aren't lifting heavy enough

LOL to all the cucks who think I'm on gear. Im 180cm and def notca manlet. 1 year of tracking macros and training 6 times a week will get u results. u guys are all cancer