Tfw want to be a trap but also want to be aesthetic and strong as fuck

Why would you want that. Are you an attention whore? Get some fucking discipline. Men don't need attention, men need suffering.

As a return on investment, becoming strong and aesthetic is a way better choice. Being strong is actually rather useful, you will discover this when you get there.

he has stockings shut up

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Somebody needs to make a data map of where all the trans people are. I bet they are mostly centered in certain areas.

i am already quite strong but i dont find it useful really, i just lift cus its fun.

Gay

When you get weak, you will see the difference, I promise.

Cute. Name?

Ecchievement

rose?

Same.

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thats what a trap is idiot

Just do it, you cock holster

you're gay

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muscular crossdresser >>>>traps>>>>>>>>>>>>trannies

You are literally just gay.

>tfw no strong trap bf to mire my lifts while we're at the gym together

fuck this earth

But theyre so cute!!!

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pick me pls

Post pics

Who the fuck even cares? If it's gay, it's gay. Whatever.

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i'll take you bby. i'll let you dangle your junk over my face during bench so i get double test boost

>i'll take you bby. i'll let you dangle your junk over my face during bench so i get double test boost
ok

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why are modern white males so fucking gay and submissive?

easier to become aesthetic and strong. plus you dont have to worry about becoming mentally ill and offing yourself

smother my face during bench with that ass. god damn. do want.

[spoiler]where do you live? be my daddy?[/spoiler]

cali. do you even have to ask. ill be your daddy for sure bby

day 4 of nofap and I'm turning gay, great

this is so gay and disgusting haha

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I suggest losing weight.

kik?
I live in Maine but I'll walk there for you

>mental illness
>cute

blastthird
sounds like a lot of cardio

Does nobody see those to the left?
What attractive person wears those?
The only people who wear those shoes are ugly nerds desu

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they're my dad's
I wear boots

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That image is unequivocally gay. Not even in a "traps are gay" way. If you got hard looking at it you are homosexual.

Dude get your stinky ass away from my face desu

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Homosexual here, that is a below-average male. Faggot.

This

DUDE, clean your ass, lose the weight learn to makeup and do a little squats and butt exercises. I believe in you.

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Wanna become a trap with me?

Wow exactly me...

I did purge my clothes and made some gains in body and mind but the feeling is still there...

>traps =/ trannies

I'm not sure I'm like trying to figure everything out....
I've been like atrophying upper body and just doing butt/legs but sometimes I think I might be better of as like a Jow Forums 'asexual' man rather than going trap. I own titty skittles but I dunno if I want to take them or just stay a guy

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i bet there are more people of certain groups where there are more people total.

How old are you?

>has never heard of borderline personality disorder with strong histrionic traits

You're just another case of a dude who's so addicted to porn that he wants to be one of the girls that he says. Stop watching porn and I guarantee that you will stop having those feelings of becoming a faggot.

Why can't you be both a trap and also strong and aesthetic? What's stopping you?

Every regular woman has BPD anyway, so it shouldn't be any different.

Well you wouldnt really be a convincing trap

I stopped watching porn for like 75 days and it didnt change anything.

I'm sure there are strong traps that are also feminine.

no, he's just a guy who has accepted that he's beating it to the feminine traits that he's directly sensing while those same feminine traits are strongly enough presented that the masculine traits can be effortlessly ignored while horny. similar to men who fetishise gingers to the point that they'll over look almost any flaw(s) in a woman as long as she's ginger

Squats

arms would be too thick. hold far too much flesh to the front of his femur compared with women who hold proportionally more behind the femur. hard square/boxy ass vs squishy tear drop ass. lack of waist. muscular delts and lats. and random effects of lower body-fat on the appearance of facial features

just wait til they're 30...

Traps are fucking cute. Get all the cute boys in here

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>titty skittles

holy shit lmao

19...

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I said I didn't take them...

that's just about the most adorable thing i've ever heard

okay well here's the thing you sound really insecure and that's okay but I have a feeling it is somehow related to your predicament, I want to make that clear right now

Don't take the titty skittles, which is a fucking hilarious name for them btw, because you'll fuck your shit up for the rest of your life when chances are you can move on from these feelings in some way. Settle for upper body atrophy and butt gains for now. Post pics so we can tell you if you're cute or not, that's probably the only affirmation you need at this point and I really want to see your cute little ass.

Really you can live as a cute trap by just staying a crossdresser until your trapworthy years of youth are out. You'll have more or less the same experience of feeling cute and getting fucked in the ass(if you choose to do so) while also not turning yourself sterile and giving yourself woman brain problems, which in all likelihood would genuinely lead to your death.

oh also, best part about this is that you can transition to being an alpha manly man with trap experience in your late 20s/early 30s when you can't be cute anymore

plan for the future my man, if you really want to trap out you don't have to choose between these two options, just save the one for later.

This is a pretty good point...
I'm somewhat passable with makeup/girl clothes but it's constantly going away as I age. I was considering taking pills and then getting off them maybe when I get a bit older...
So I could be passable now and then a chad later maybe? The only issue would be breast growth but Ive heard there are drugs that can prevent a lot of the gyno

THIS CAN'T POSSIBLY BE
CAN IT?

BASED

Weak and cute ''''men'''' are made for strong men with high test

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It is. Reverse image search it and take a gander at the feminine bepis.

>or just stay a guy
You will stay a guy either way hon

>You will stay a guy either way hon
:'(
If I was unpassable I'd get off pills asap though, I'm not a crazy hon...
I thought I was almost decent when I tried makeup/crossdressing so maybe I could look almost like a girl if I took pills, but yeah it probably wouldn't work...

You don't need hormones, lest you wind up a Riley J Dennis/Contrapoints type freak. If you think you pass well enough it will be a lot healthier for you in the long run if you stick to being a trap/twink. Enjoy your more androgynous appearance now, and then when it starts to fade as you age you will still be able to look well by embracing a more soft masculine aesthetic.

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>You don't need hormones, lest you wind up a Riley J Dennis/Contrapoints type freak
Oh, if I wound up looking like that I'd quit and go back t being a guy lol. I was just thinking to be more passable maybe, and then do what you were talking about afterwards. So basically what you said, maybe with mones?

Same. I only want to bang the ones who look like real, good looking girls though

I don't think the slight boost to your appearance with the mones is worth the long term effects, like gyno, erectile dysfunction and permanently altering your hormones.

no, do not ever take the pills

have fun now with what you can and settle for that. Taking pills for this is a recipe for disaster and will ruin your life, but it will take you ~5 years to realize, maybe give or take a few. Indulge yourself in this responsibly, do not overdo it. Golden rule of moderation. Taking any kind of hormones, drugs, or surgery counts as overindulgence. DO NOT DO IT.

You still haven't posted cute pics. That's part of the fun lass.

>lass
kys my man

hey man nothing wrong with playing into somebody's fantasy, as long as they don't seriously hurt themselves.

I think his issue is that you said lass like a massive homo

hey man if it works it works, if it doesn't I can walk away from this having lost nothing, but learned something.

Gotta have that perspective

So not only are you a massive homo you're also a massive autist. I don't mind getting lewd with these trap sluts either but Christ dude you're going to make their feminine dicks retract into their body

Literally me

trial and error friend, only way to learn sometimes. Besides, trust me when I say some of them are into that kind of dumb corny shit.

In any case, I hope that person doesn't discard my advice in this thread. I feel like I gave them the best possible route to take that doesn't involve completely wrecking their life. It's very, very important that they don't start taking those pills if they value their own body and future. Hope anyone else thinking of doing something like that takes it to heart too.

have you considered being a butch transvestite?

Who is this

Still smells like a dude though.

I think you can take care of gyno with pills and start taking test and it might go away.

If you say you almost look like a girl now with just makeup if you take hormones and take care of yourself you will look like a cute girl probably

Erectile dysfunction doesnt always come with homrmones, i heard cumming can be a problem but it also only happens after a couple of years.

M’lady.
*tip tip tip*

Warmfreshpaint

how do you know