>ywn go on an adventure with your bros.
>ywn explore exotic places while having friendly bants
>ywn do something that has meaning besides "make money"
>ywn go on a hero's journey
>the closest thing you have are vidya and movies
>we can barely make it to the moon
>there is no more uncharted land
>there is nothing left to discover
it's all so tiresome
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Why the fuck not? Get some friends together, get off your ass and arrange something.
would i be on fourchan if i had friends, you nigger
>ywn go on a mission of smashing the heads of all frog posters
what do you yearn young one
but i will. luckily I found a group of equally spergy dudes into science and whose social ability, when combined with mine, are able to join forces to equal nearly that of a normal human for use with one of us at a time
a meaningful struggle
God, I wish I was 18 again. The feels only get realer from here on.
>want to go out
>actually did go out
>just get depressed because bored
>work related things adjusted expectations a bit
>probably going to try again
>some loose person that I traveled to work may or may not invite me
>at this point dont even care about meaning or whatever. See the PC as toxic.
lmfao daily reminder that if you haven't found your lifelong bros by the end of college you never will
and what do you think I am doing young one, what is it that needs to be fixed, what is it that bothers you in the world, no, in yourself, in your friend group, in your community.
there you will find your answer, a struggle isn't an holiday, a struggle is meaning, a struggle will be your journey, your life, your destiny.
but you got to find it first, young one.
>Waaah this restrictive, tiresome world is already on the game over screen there are no opportunities left to be a whole, fulfilled human
Kek. This is the lie you tell yourself to justify your mediocrity and inaction. The truth is that you're terrifyingly, incomprehensibly free, and the crushing responsibility of that freedom has you whimpering like a cuck. Bitching about a lack of fate/destiny/meaning is way easier than admitting that it's entirely on you to inject your life with meaning. And growing a victim mentality, self-loathing, and an 'everything is shit' outlook is way more comfortable and unthreatening than sincerely engaging life.
where him legs
literally 100% this
Me and two BJJ buddies are going on a 7 mile hike Sunday threw a famous state park and I'm pretty pumped excited
First time I've ever done anything with a group of friends besides sharing hotel rooms at BJJ tournaments
you're a fucking loser, don't even try to do what you want to do, you'll ruin it for everyone else. pessimistic queer.
This is a really good post. But it doesn't make me feel very good.
Thank you crow of judgement for taking a shit on OP and his faggy attitude.
I wish everybody my age would read this
T 23yo boomer
I didn't know Jordan Peterson posted here
This. Took me way too long to realize
I've traveled the world going on adventures with my bros.
I've been fishing in the boundary waters. I once had to hunker down in the middle of a forest while a tornado funnel passed right over head. I've climbed in the Rocky Mountains twice. Gone off roading through the desert. I've hiked in to a remote plot of land where the only other life one could see was antelope and wild horses, no other people for miles in any direction.
Don't make excuses, make it happen.
This is partly true
but also, I'm really sad that it's so hard to get a "real" adventure - like a straight up book or story one, where you have a goal, and you have to do interesting and challenging things to reach that goal.
I've been backpacking. And it was fun.
I think adventures arise from the challenges you face trying to get to your end goal. And I did have some challenges while backpacking - but none of them were particularly hard challenges to overcome. It was fun bummng the side of the road with an Iranian in the rain, having to hitchhike our way back, but it didn't last long, and while it was a challenge/adventure - it wasn't necessarily a fun one.
And even from an exploration aspect, everything in the world has been fucking monetized and supervised. Barring illegal entry you can barely explore any caves, ruins, old shit, etc. without a fucking guide or paying to get in and having your hand held.
and it's so true that there's nothing left to explore. You can explore shit, sure, but there's no MEANING to it. You're not finding anything new.
Idk. Just some thoguhts. I'm probably not making much sense. It just makes me sad how hard it is to be in the circumstances where you have a classic, Indy-style adventure.
also you can set goals, sure, but it doesn't feel as good. Because the only goal you can set is like "get to the top of everest" or some shit. You're not stealing artifacts, you're not saving endangered animals from poachers or some shit.
maybe you should focus on appreciating what you have, the incredible standard of living, the roof over your head and warm food on demand, the opportunities to enrich your life with philosophy, or a passion, or just to sit in the sun and enjoy the feeling of the breeze
If you don't want what you have you'll never be happy, the best outcome is that you'll be one of those unhappy rich guys screaming at traffic from his benz
I've got a lifetime of memories from this trip
That's because that Indy-style adventure is a fabrication of Hollywood and pop culture being packaged and sold. And you've accepted the parameters, rules and assumptions of that fantasy in your search for a meaningful life. Want to know how I know you play video games and read genre fiction?
> there's no MEANING to it. You're not finding anything new
>someone else documented something first, so experiencing it doesn't matter anymore!
There are plenty of fields (biology, actual archeology, astronomy, deep sea exploration) that involve finding new shit, and I'm positive you'll find something very wrong or unsatisfying with each of them. An irl adventure will never follow the pleasing, feverish expectations in your mind.
Where'd you go user?
DELET THIS
>tfw never had teenage bros.
>Everyone thought I was a complete chad in high school because I only said things if I had the exact perfect thing to say at the exact perfect time.
>Everyone thought I had my own shit going on because I didn't seem to care about what they were doing.
>The reality was that I had no idea how to carry on a conversation past repeating funny one liners and I didn't want to ruin my reputation by having anyone find out.
>People thought I was rich because of the way I carried myself and because I had a small wardrobe of (relative to the area) expensive clothing
>I actually just lived in a crappy apartment building and spent all my free time shitposting and playing treadmill-tier video games.
>tfw lost all my swagger and now I'm in college far away from my home with no friends, no social opportunities because everybody is just walking to and from classes.
>tfw this thread made me realize this just when I had completely forgotten that there was a social aspect to life and was comfortable and happy where I was.
This started as a bitching post but it isn't any more cause I'm gonna find a solution to this ASAP just you fucking watch lads.
I gym and travel with friends but i'm still here because i'm jobless right now
Yeah, well how the fuck do you do that?
Hard-mode: do not reply to this post with catchphrases and aphorisms
Thats in Wyoming, little place outside of Worland.
Traveled through the Dakotas, into Wyoming, touched part of the Rocky Mountains and went down into desert within 2 days of each other. It was a blast.
Guns unironicaly causes the downfall of men going on adventures. Adventures and conquering shit is illegal as fuck now. Life has no meaning now that the governments of the world can just shoot the shit out of you for breaking laws with their legion of fat, stupid cops. When the status quo was upheld by men with swords and shit there was far more room for individuals to challenge it.
Do it, user.
The biggest hurdle a man can overcome in life is himself.
read nietzsche
Holy fuck this is beautiful and true, thank you based wise user
This entire area is open to camping fyi
the whole world is open to camping user
Oceans still need discovery
Going on /out/ it seems like everyone who owns land would just fucking love to have unauthorized campers so they could have an excuse to shoot someone.
True, but I mean its open to dispersed camping, without permit. You can stay there indefinitely in theory so long as you move a few miles every two weeks.
Point being that you lazy fucks should go out and see it instead of whining about life not having real adventure.
What happened to that guy who was planning a Jow Forums trip to Thailand? Was kinda considering it desu
>That's because that Indy-style adventure is a fabrication of Hollywood and pop culture being packaged and sold
Dhuuuuh whas duh odyssey
slightly older pop culture, mongoloid. It was the Star Wars for Greek nu-males who complained that Alexander conquered the whole world so what's left for them.
Blogpost soz brehs.
yo last weekend I ended up booking a same day flight on the Friday and meeting up with some bros in another country. (Lifted on the Thursday to mitigate some of the damage).
Got smashed (I don't do it often, maybe once every 2 months so I'm lightweight af) and in general it was a pretty fun weekend. But parts of it reminded me of a life I could've lived. Hearing about the bros doing well with their careers and with grills/tinder. Meanwhile back at home I'm in a job I somewhat dislike, have fuck all of a social life and the closest thing I have to romance is seeing escorts - something which I hate myself for. Oh...and I still don't look like I lift.
>bow & arrow ruin adventure for Grug
>Grug cant do adventure and conquer, will get shot with arrow now
>life no meaning no more
>Easier time when there was just warclub
>this why Grug keep being berrypicker
Lost them in Korea
I just wish I could be a murder hobo like in my /tg/ games. Lifting and making money will have to do I guess.
You're going to reject everything as aphorisms/platitudes/normie logic because that's what you're choosing to see. On the off chance you don't:
>Reading non genre fiction (i.e: proper, meaty books)
>Cognitive therapy to undo the decades of fuckery you've done to your thought processes
>distrusting strongly held opinions and perceptions, especially your own.
>Visiting your local plant nursery, buying a cactus, and sitting on it whenever you feel like focusing on casting blame on other people or yelling about things you don't have control over.
>dedicating yourself to a cause bigger than your own egoism.
>internalizing that you're going to die soon
For more on this read stuff by Sartre
>fitlit
Please tell me you aren't one of those faggots who thinks that Tolkein is genre fiction and that the Greek epic cycle borders on it. I hate shitters who instantly disregard anything containing fantasy elements when whether or not a story contains them has no effect on the quality of the writing and themes at play.
>distrusting strongly held opinions and perceptions, especially your own.
>Visiting your local plant nursery, buying a cactus, and sitting on it whenever you feel like focusing on casting blame on other people or yelling about things you don't have control over.
>dedicating yourself to a cause bigger than your own egoism.
I all strongly agree with though. Not the user you're responding to by the way.
What's a good book?
thats like ISIS was formed though lol
there were literally pics of them having birthday parties and shit in conquered cities
I think he’s primarily referring to more recent literature that’s made for marketability rather than passion. Tolkien wrote because he wanted to put his imagination to paper from what I understand. He’s probably talking about things like Harry Potter, most contemporary scifi/fantasy books, and basically anything you might find in the book aisle at Walmart.
That's a power fantasy engineered by 1st world neckbeards who never had to kill to survive. IRL combat is ugly and traumatic; this goes double for hand to hand combat. And there's a ton of shit that D&D glosses over (cholera, poverty, infant mortality, shitty quality of life in Middle Ages, unsustainability of Lone Wolf lifestyle). Look at the wilder parts of Middle East or central Africa if you want to see what a real murder-hobo is like.
>no more uncharted land
What a bunch of bullshit. The only reason people say this is because we can pull up Google earth or some shit and get a top down snapshot of something. Anyone who has REALLY been out there knows there is plenty of wild and crazy stuff that is basically untouched. If you are into caving, there are still massive stretches of systems that are untouched and just waiting for new explorers. Hell, the crystal caverns in New Mexico were only discovered as recently as the 70s, and they are still finding miles of passages down there.
If caving isn't your thing, then try either scuba diving or deep seas stuff. If you just want to stay on land, there are huge swaths of Patagonia in South America that are virtually untouched and remote. Same with the North and South poles of the planet.
You never know where you find the next thing that makes history.
I'm just making sure cause I don't like the bad reputation fantasy literature has because it drives good new writers away which creates a self-fulfilling prophecy.
underrated
Learn how to rock climb.
Learn how to cave.
Lots of caves are still being discovered.
You're just a faggot
I guess what I’m saying is that shit like that was possible. You have shit like Musashi Miyamoto, the passé de armes in the European Renaissance, border clans in medieval Britain and other things like that. I guess what I’m saying is, life feels boring as shit and I’ve yet to find what really scratches the itch yet. Also it feels like the whole word is kind of closing possibilities as hard as it can given that everything requires licenses and degrees and government oversight and shit. Wanna go fish for sharks? Okay cool, pay some fish and game like a bunch of money for a license. Wanna build your own house? Okay, but some asshole is gonna nitpick every inch of it and fine you out the ass if you didn’t do it to code. Wanna drive around in a van and work odd jobs for a living? Fuck you, no camping anywhere, you have to have a bank account to pay insurance, and all kinds of other shit. Want to hunt boar with a spear? Fuck you, killing an animal with an edged weapon is a felony. Use a gun like every other söi boi.
Tolkien is genre fiction, but brety gud, his fanboys and successors are pretty shit. I'm not a fan of the trend of worldbuilding he pioneered either. I'd put him a little below C.S Lewis.
I know sci-fi authors (Card, Philip K. Dick, Capek, Shelley) that qualify as proper lit, but that doesn't absolve that flavor of genre fiction from being a low value opiate. Genre fiction is too often abused by maligned nerds for escapist fantasy, which is why I put that qualifier.
That makes sense. Most contemporary fantasy is objectively garbage and I’d be hesitant to step foot in that market if I were a writer given that reputation.
Do you have any recommendations for books or authors? I’m a pleb and you sound like you have good taste or are at least discerning.
let's crowdfund a temple full of treasure and traps for bored Jow Forumsizens to monkey bar their way through
literally moving to a small island with one of my bros for work here in a month.
>n-n-nohomo
>low value opiate.
Faggot. Not too big of a faggot though so I'll give you a passing grade.
St Johns College has a pretty decent reading curriculum of Great Works (important texts for the development of western thought).
>lettersrepublic.wordpress.com
The order matters since you're liable to misunderstand or miss stuff from an author if you're ignorant of the cultural context and influences. Don't be a faggot like me and jump immediately into Nietzsche and Sartre and misinterpret 80% of the stuff because you lack the necessary background, ending up like the literary version of a curlbro who has no cardio endurance and squats 135. A lot of people like starting with Plato; some start with Stoics (Marcus Aurelius, Epictetus) for the immediate self-help factor. Some stuff (Shelley's Frankenstein, Orwell's 1984/Animal Farm) is approachable enough that you don't have to be so strict.
If you're itching to read something now:
>Edith Hamilton's collection of Greek Mythology
>Plato- The Republic
>The Odyssey
>ywn hang out with all your battle buddies
>ywn go to mosque together and hang out afterwards
>ywn hide from Iraqi security forces together and bond through the danger
why even live
thank allah for that, isis are fags, i'd rather join the PKK
Thanks mate. Bookmarked, will get on that. Also, any contemporary stuff you would recommend?
12 Rules For Life by Jordan Peterson
>Cormac McCarthy novels
>Catch 22
>Dale Carnegie
The last isn't lit but self help, but important enough to recommend for most dudes trying to make mental gains.
That’s trash and so are you.
Incorrect.
Thank!
No u
Unironically though Jordan Peterson is like one step up from the lowest sort of new age self help shit, just rebranded for alt-lite incels.
Maybe you should try actually listening to him and coming up with your own thoughts on the matter instead of regurgitating a bunch of misinformed trash opinions you saw on the internet.
Not that user, but 12 Rules for Life isn't terrible, even if you dislike Peterson's politics.
As a public figure, the man is mostly a well-crafted meme who baits screeching leftists and curries favor with disaffected moderates and righties. But since the book sticks to what he's good at (clinical psychology and archetypes), it turns out pretty decent. You don't have to buy into weird contradictions like 'Postmodern Neomarxism' to read 12 Rules.
yeah that has nothing to do with guns. even in your fantasy era of "swords and shit" governments bullied the fuck out of individuals. 3 dumbfucks with weapons will be 1 pro. and the governments of that age had thousands of dumbfucks
Not him but here's a good list if you want to do shit chronologically. For the Illiad and Odyssey I recommend reading Fitzgerald or Lattimore translations. If you think worrying about translations is autistic, and it kind of is, then read Fagles. Whatever you pick I strongly recommend reading the Pope translation afterwards because it's a beautiful work in its own right.
>will be 1 pro
beat*
>If you think worrying about translations is autistic, and it kind of is
That's just shit brainlets, me included, say to justify not learning a new language and read the primary text. Even retard weebs who do fan-subs understand how ideas and expression gets altered when you shift languages.
Students that go to St. John's College that someone posted the reading list of earlier actually learn the languages alongside the books they read, fucking mental.
Nah m8 everything is so regulated and fucked uo the ass with laws and rules you’re going to have to break a lot of laws to even experience an adventure like that of one worth telling others about
For instance in ww2 you could bring any weapon, uniform back to the states without any backlash. Hell you could even stay in Europe or Asia after the fact with no backlash from anyone. Now that’s a court marshal offense and very easily punished.
Here’s another one for you. Go to the smithsonian or any other note worthy museum and look at the Egyptian ruins. If you look in the right spots you’ll see stuff like “Wright 1864” or “Smith 1919” you try that shit today and the US government will have to negotiate with Egypt for your release
In short:
to live an adventure break the laws and don’t get caught
Pic related two Russian guys scaled the great pyramid of Egypt against the law mind you but they took a picture from a view no one has seen in 100s of years
This is a good post. I still like Fagles, so easy to jump back into.
>thw pike scrapes pike and shields bossed with heavy bronze clatter together like the sound of swift horses who, frightened by sudden thunder on the plains, charge in a stampede, thus was the powerful din of Danaans and Argives meeting on the field before high-walled Ilium.
It's silly to expect everyone to learn a dead language just to read some books. It's especially silly to go to someone who doesn't read much and say that the first thing they need to do is learn ancient greek and read through the entire greek canon. If people were immortal or robots with infinite willpower that would be good way of going about things. In truth the best way to get into a hobby is to dip yourself slowly and let your interest snowball; someone who has been reading crappy fanfiction their entire life has a better avenue towards reading through the entire western canon than someone who's first book is the Illiad if they're set on the same path.
Would still be fucking dank to read the originals though.
They do it in 4 years too, for multiple languages across dozens of books. It seems superhuman to me, but I guess it must be manageable if you're dedicated and take it one day at a time. And if you're doing nothing else but reading and discussing it.
I know it's unrealistic for most people, but it's still the most authentic way to experience the work. Plus, they enjoy all the benefits of thinking in a new language. You're right though, being well read in translations is better than not reading at all.
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Reminder it's not what you look at but what you see.
If you can't find something new and interesting, whether it be a person, place or thing, by simply walking around the block, you won't find adventure by going on elaborate and expensive trips.
> t. Wendy's chef making 1.2 million a year
Am I a faggot for reading the Chapman translations? That's the one in the generic Wordsworth Classics. I feel like as I've gotten more /lit/ it's easier to read but I can still get lost sometimes
I never heard of them but if they were good then they were good and nothing can change that.
Go where there is no laws then, the less people the more freedom. Eastern Europe and Nordic forrests are great because of the "alle-mands-ret" a law that says you can camp for two days and pretty much do whatever you want in the forrests of Sweden and Norway (but like with respect of nature, not throwing garbage and starting forrest fires). Try to challenge yourself with different amounts of equipment, time and food after you've been /out/ a few times
Pic related: a trip with my gf to southern Sweden.
Fuck.
>not joining the SAA
Wew lad
Based crowposter
Jokes on you I'm doing a month long trip in Japan with the same two Bros I've already traveled with in New Zealand. Get on my level schmock
YES I WILL user!