How do I become a social, charismatic guy asap?

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what's a good replacement instead of fucking coffee?

Don’t do that, hedging your bets as a social inept is a good trap to keep yourself safe, just do like the first said and straight up ask

This. The very prettiest almost never bring anything besides their looks to the table because they've never had to before in their lives. The women who could not compete with the aesthetic lottery winners growing up but also contain any willpower will likely have pursued interesting endeavors, making dating them way more fun since they feel like real people.

Yea sure. just pick something you're comfortable with.
If you're shit at talking go to a movie cause it will give you something to talk about later

Hey wanna go walk around (interesting place)?

drinks, dinner, any social event really

Tea?
Idk mate, go wallclimbing for all I care. Just do what you like doing. Girls are more interested in a guy if he's able to enjoy himself

yes it's casual but personal. I'm no Chad but I do a lot of studying in coffee shops so they're a comfortable and familiar atmosphere, and I think that positively changes the body language in autists like us. Best piece of advice I can give you is have a bunch of discussion starting questions ready in case the conversation stops

I'm actually looking for advice on how to make friends.

I'm a 26 year-old Boomer. I'm 6'0. Thin frame, but definitely Jow Forums. I have a job, and I'm decent looking. I have no friends. I'm a bit autistic, but everyone likes me at work. The problem is I work with a bunch of old people.

I really want to make friends. I go out every weekend by myself.

Movies are a middle schooler date for kids that don't know how to not be nervous, so they just plop down in front of a screen for two hours and then get separate rides home. If you're 18 or older and your date doesn't have a lot of time dedicated to talking to one another, you're just gonna lose money and get played for a free evening and possibly food.

Do a CIA power stance for a few minutes a day since it's a dominant posture and will boost your test.

instagram is actually really good, there's hashtag based groups so you can find a group of people who share a common interest

Thanks for your advice, it just seems weird to invite someone for coffee in my country, but I don't know what else to do (she doesn't drink)

Attractive facial features suggest genetic health.

Attraction is an evolved trait to help us select the fittest mother for our children.

It is very important to select a female capable of creating healthy offspring. If you settle for less, that is mistake that your children will pay for.

What kind of man doesn't want the best health for his children? Ask yourself that.

Honestly, best advice I can give is join a sportsclub like minifootball or badminton or whatever. Talk to people there and after a few weeks ask if they wanna grab a drink after working out. Most will say sure and you can get to know more people like that.

I don't give a fuck about my nonexistant kids. I wanna have a wife who will make me enjoy life

Sage

Use to have crippling anxiety that sometimes stopped me from talking to anyone for days.
Luckily the cure is a lot like weight lifting.
First you find your starting weight, and what volume you can handle. For me, this was saying hi to 3 strangers every other day.
Then you incrementally add more volume (to get better at approach) and/or more intensity (to get better at conversation). If it's to meet girls, then intensity can be increased by trying to flirt more.

After a few weeks I was able to say hi to anyone, ask anyone a general question (eg. what's the time), and even managed opening with a compliment multiple times. It's best to use strangers because there's low risk if you say something incredibly stupid.

As for opinions/stories, you just have to act like your life is the most interesting thing ever to exist. If they respond positively you're sorted. If they respond negatively change story or ask them questions.
Good luck mate, stop asking these questions on Jow Forums. Cheers

This guy gets it. Just say whatever, it barely matters and in most cases they'll be grateful that you're saying anything at all. The only difficult thing is getting into the situation where you are talking to someone in the first place.

if you can get the money together I suggest doing some travelling on your own. It will force you out of your comfort zone and you will have to interact with strangers. You should get an interesting story or two out of it as well. People who have nothing interesting to say are like that because they live boring lives

something you like obviously

I have traveled alone before. Went to NYC and Chicago, 5 days each. I didn't meet anyone tbqh, was mostly by myself

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>i go out every weekend by myself

and do you succeed?

You can’t. People will say fake it til you make it but that won’t fix it. Alcohol, cocaine, prescription meds 24/7 are your best bet but that’s realky probably not a great idea.

are you American? If so I meant another country. What did you get up to when you went there?

Don’t try and be anyone you’re not. Just relax and let your natural personality shine. I’m sure you’re less boring than you think. Everyone’s different and everyone brings something unique to the table. You just sound insecure that’s all. Practicing self acceptance and relaxation will do more for you than pretending to be something you’re not, ever will.

I'm not sure what you mean by 'succeed.'

i mean like what do you do when you go out? where do you go, do you meet other people/women/sex/etc?

Canadian

I mostly saw tourist sites (parks, architectural sites), went to museums and ate different food

In NYC I was at a hostel. Roommates were either together or knew people in NYC who they hung out with

In Chicago I used airbnb, host was nice and invited me out with him one night

I don't know how people can just meet strangers (incl. girls) and have unplanned "adventures" with them while traveling

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I seriously wonder how people with weaponized autism like this look irl.

have you tried a mirror?

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having never been to America or Canada I would legit be happy to sit over a beer and hear all about these places if I knew you.

I get the feeling confidence is your main problem here mate. I've been the same but getting better at it. One thing I've realised is that most people just want to talk about anything; tv shows, their job, cars. It can actually be interesting though getting to know people, everyone has a story to tell about something. Ask open ended questions, not just yes no ones and practice with people you have to interact with

Oh. I sit at the bar. I often by myself. Others definitely are interested in speaking to me. Whether it's the bartender or girls. Girls stare at me all the time, but I hardly initiate conversation. It's weird to go to clubs, because it's such a social environment. It is award, but still girls subtly try to get my attention.

I just don't have the motivation to be too social, honestly. Normies often disgust me, but I do like having fun. And normies can be fun. I used to have a lot of fun. Not much these days, unfortunately. It's also hard to get into the mood to fuck around with girls. When my friends are in two, we go out, and I have no anxiety fucking with girls. I have a girl throw her drink on me, and I'll move onto the sex and leave with her for the night.

So, I do meet people from time to time. One time, I walked into a bar. I sat down. A strange girl sat next to me. Everything she said was drenched in sarcasm. I ignored her. About an hour later, she started pushing her ass against me. She then took my arm and dragged me to the bathroom. Once in there, I kissed her, turned her around, and started pulling her hair -- asking if she liked that. I think she did.

She thought she had me. So, she exited the bathroom, and tried ghosting me again. I got her number, but didn't talk to her after.

Tinder is easier for me frankly. I just fuck girls from Tinder. It's nasty, and it's not all that fun. But I have needs, lad.

>that boomer who already lost his virginity

I don't want a girl who looks so good in everyday life. Imagine if everyday you put 2h of prep to look good. People wouldn't think good of you

Do you have a hot gf now?

You either are this guy or you aren't.

doesnt hurt for me. i could not even comprehend a girl that hot liking me so it doesnt even cross my mind

Oh, so you aren't an actual loser, you're just a handsome lone wolf chad. never mind

I'm not a loser -- I'm just a bit of a loner and I don't have any friends because I'm somewhat autistic.

I used to be like you but I gradually stopped caring. As I improved myself and got more confident and cut toxic people out of my life (mainly my parents), I realised a few things :

I'm a man of few words and there's nothing wrong with that.

I'm not awkward, I'm just not really into small talk. I prefer a book or a movie over a nightclub or bar. Again, nothing wrong with that.

I have controversial opinions when it comes to politics and religion so I tend to never share my opinion on them.

I'm good at my job, I work 80 hours a week, I have one or two close friends but for the most part I'm alone and I enjoy my own company.

Great description. I think that's a far more accurate self-description: I'm not awkward -- I'm just not into small talk.

Don't force yourself to be good at what you're bad at.

Get really really good at what you're good at, and branch out from there.

I learned from Jordan Peterson that I'm high in openness which means I like to discuss ideas and abstract concepts.

Turns out that people like that are pretty rare, most people are uncomfortable talking about unconventional ideas. I've had two people I've met who I could actually discuss abstract concepts and ideas with. Both were top law students, one was my best friend, one was my ex.

It's a legitimate thing that high IQ people tend to be more lonely in life. I've accepted that and optimised my life to take advantage of the gifts I have while trying not to be arrogant and trying my best to be decent to other people.

just be decisive, ask her to do something in particular on a specific date or even " let's *do whatever you want* on *date*"

im kind of the same way op, but im not a manlet nor do i lift, but recently I have been talking to people with more assertiveness regardless of what they may think in some effort to overcome my anxiety, and i believe it has shown results. talk with power. not necessarily of power power, but let the mother fuckers hear your voice.

Accepting myself for what I am made me far more confident, I realise now that most people are intimidated by confident, intelligent people.

The reality is I don't care about how your day is going or what you did at the weekend or any other shit. I don't care what you think about me.

Those things aren't going to make me popular but it's better than living a lie. I'm blunt and to the point, some people like that and a lot of people don't. That's fine with me.

I really do not think most people care about that stuff, but it is the superficial shit that makes up most of our daily interactions, or at least i think.

Get a lot of money you will, then you’ll realize apart from looking good and her touching your peepee a little bit, she’s worthless.

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hey wanna watch porn and masturbate together?

small talk is what leads to conversations though, I think you're missing that part. It's true that mostly I don't care about every detail of your life, but sometimes you gotta rattle through until you find something you both want to talk about. Think of it as conversational foreplay

it's a brave move, but it could work

Fuck, that Webm
>tfw I have a gf, but not that gf ;_;

Just normal coffee, you can fuck after

Read how to win friends and influence people, legitimately one of the best books ive ever read for talking with people.

that is a good point. i was just giving my 2 cents. im a pretty awkward mother fucker myself.

I'm pretty sure you can guess. They're most likely a young kid who's read too much pua type shit on here and other places

>25 years old
>easily can make people laugh usually with observational humor or quick comebacks to stuff
>recognize that I am weird but it doesn't stop me from talking to people
>can be self-deprecating and take people teasing me and i give it back to them
>i guess i'm socially awkward too
>people seem to at least tolerate me
>when i try to intentionally remain calm and quiet and not be weird/joking a lot, people ask me whats wrong with me and if im sick
>but i haven't had friends since early in high school
>even back in college my roommates and their friends seemed to like be but we never talked again after school ended
>kissless virgin never been on a date
>never really have any real conversations with people
>never share even the most basic details about my life with people because i want to hide my pathetic life
>nervous about even trying to meet people because of my lack of social experience and pathetic personal life

i really do wish i could be normal socially but i am certain that ship has sailed for me. i will never have a normal or happy life ever. i have never heard someone my age with my life recovering.

I agree with you, but then it gets down to what we want to talk about. for most guys it's sport and women

If we are talking about sport, I'm probably going to deeply analyse whatever we are talking about, lets say the nba, talk about detailed analytics, know every teams roster and cap space, take into account all the variables at play when discussing everything, eg if someone talks about lebron I'm probably going to go off on an autistically, deeply thought about analysis about exactly where he should go, what coach can utilise him effectively, how his play style will dictate the players around him, and pretty much rip apart the opinions of whoever disagrees with me with facts and logic. Nobody likes being made feel stupid, So instead I'll say "yeah dude he's going lakers, fuck the cavs haha" so I don't become a social pariah

Or with women, I'll tell them the optimal ways to text women to appear high value, how to give off confident body language, how women are attracted to strength above all else and to interact with them accordingly, the primal factors that influence sexual attraction, why women are scientifically attracted to bad boys and why the society of today is trying to neuter and feminise men and how it's disgusting. From there I'd probably divulge into a red-pill rant on how fucked society is and how women today aren't shit because they are being told it's ok to be slutty and as a result good, traditional, strong men who want wives are dying out and being replaced by two types : psychopathic men who fuck as many women as possible and don't care about the consequences and pathetic beta simps who worship the ground they walk on or else give up and opt for porn.

You see that's the kind of way I talk about things. Most dudes won't get it. They just talk for the sake of talking, nothing wrong with that, it's just not me

>wasting your time watching and closely following a rigged joke of a sport league like the NBA

that's probably your first mistake. the rest of your pathetic blithering autism in that post is just making it worse

Too high maintenance trust me bruh

Plain janes are a gift

>He think the nba is rigged

you see this is the kind of retarded shit I'm talking about

>It's a legitimate thing that high IQ people tend to be more lonely in life

unless you find a place where there are more high IQ people. I used to have one, a running club, it was nice, lots of people had these weird novel things to compete in tournaments, many regulars, many got to know me. Problem was that there werent many women there, one woman was there of my similar age, but was taken and after a while I got too many feels and had to quit so I could just sleep again (yea I am that kind of beta faggot, but getting reminded of qt is quite a hassle)

But it was a nice place. So far I am trying to find a new high IQ place. In the city there is an art house of sorts, has exhibitions, most I dont really care about but I am trying really hard to do just that. Has a nice library, sassyish receptionists. The problem is that all of them are lefties, but with high IQ places you get the added bonus that no subraces are usually present. So its probably okay.

tried reading a book in a couple of public places to see how people would react, if I would be welcome, may have found a middle to high IQ bar as I did not get many negative looks upon me. Apparently reading books is quite rare in most places, for most people.

So yea. Not sure if my story applies to many people but it seems to hold ground so far. Not just autism many people have, but just loneliness because of too high IQ. Probably should actually just find a better job with those like that still.

Yeah it looks like she would only date a professional athlete or movie star, expensive hoe.

not gonna lie, even just reading that I can tell we would have nothing in common.

You seem to have very strong views/opinions, would you be open to discuss them with someone, or are you very 'this is how it is'? My point is I enjoy a good debate or discussion about something, but I get the feeling you could be very one sided with what you personally believe. Would you be open to change your view if I disagreed with your player placement, or your views on women and sexual attraction?

I do still struggle with small talk myself with people I don't know, but I'm starting to see the why and how people do it

Exactly. I'd rather enjoy a wide variety of 6 or 7/10's on the cheap with very minimal effort required. I truly do not have the time nor care to expend energy on a female.

Do you think this is a game, boy

QUINTS FOR TRUTH!!!

to add upon this post

>city has lots of weird outside bars, some bistro's some with drink
>sit at one of them
>observe what kind of people go where
>dressing style, general looks, if the women are trashy, if there are families present, age and other factors
>actually meet up with a guy from work who I know is low IQ and ask him "what is the best place here to hang out"
>points towards my suspected low IQ place (guess il avoid that place then)
>lots of low IQ bars also have television sets with football, rowdly looking fellas
>only place that seemed decent had snobbish looking people
>bar owner seemed to be non pushy and even welcoming
>nice quiet music
>some families
>no tats

and you know, it was quite nice to just sit there just for a couple of hours, doing nothing, Getting away from this internet dopamine trap is important enough now to me lol.

sorry that your beloved piece of shit NBA is a joke, i can imagine being upset about it when someone brings it up

Hard to rig the NBA when the Warriors are that good. Modern NBA is not rigged, it's just a constant battle of super teams. Now soccer games are routinely rigged.. I mean Russia beating Spain.. who was paid?

>mfw another Jow Forums 4channer thinks a 7/10 girl is mediocre
>minimal effort required

you people are completely retarded

Man I haven't even found anyone who reads books my age in a long time. Pretty much nobody does, even the smart people I do know (all top of our class in high school) are only studying for the sake of their career, they don't care about knowledge outside their specialised area, or even outside of passing their exams. These are accountants, lawyers, engineers, all just boring as fuck to talk to.

I read constantly. I study electrical engineering but I love reading books on philosophy, psychology, economics, business, money. I'm not a social outcast at work or anything, even with most people I know how to get along with them. I just don't enjoy their company that much because all they talk about is getting wasted, sport and women.

Or maybe you're just a loser who hasn't figured out women yet? You keep paying for expensive dinners and laying your coat in puddles, bitch ass nigga.

You're completely right. Small talk is essential in my occupation. If you can't engage in small talk, and come off as a likable person, you're fucked. I'm fine at small talk -- I just find is so unbearably trite and painful.

I actually can't tell if you're being serious but you sound awful. You're placing too much emphasis on your apparent high intelligence. I hope one day that you discover people of all walks of life can have something to offer in the ways of friendships, experiences and teaching you something new

or maybe you're another delusional faggot 4channer who thinks all the girls he fucks are "7/10s" with no effort put in

Big brained nibba.

that is why this feels like a social experiment of sorts. I had to go through fucking places and bars to feel if I was welcome, just reading a book outside (one which I actually also enjoyed). How come this practice has disappeared? Why is everyone so glued to their phones? Quite horrible it is outside.

Not really, on many topics I have found zero value in people, from the lower to the middle class. If you were to ever ask a person "how would you judge this woman?" 99% of the people right now would say "she has a nice ass, I would bang" and then nothing would come after it. Nothing about her personality, her family, if she is classy or not. I have talked to plenty of people and at some point I just have given up. There is almost zero value in most people out there. I can try to prove you wrong, but I doubt you live near me to allow me to demonstrate that in real life.

Well its just a category, like race is, sure you could try to deconstruct it, but its kinda pointless. As it stands, no matter my income, no matter my preposition or social ability. Its still just intelligence. Even able to demonstrate in many cases. Useless to you perhaps if you dont value just knowledge. Like trying to compensate for what you dont have. But it comes naturally to me.

>reading in public for attention
Watching too many rom-coms, dude

I've come to my opinions from long periods of deep thought and introspection, I've come to realise that I think extremely deeply about everything to the point where it becomes unpractical, in fact I was in a state of existential dread from 13 to 20 and I'm only really coming out of it now. I'm one of those people who is constantly in my own head. I would say I speak about 5% of the thoughts that are in my head.

Getting a girfriend helped me to realise that I'm actually a human being and not a robot. There is more to life than dissecting everything with ruthless logic. There's a big difference between smart and wise.

whats the difference between reading a book or reading from a phone? What does it matter? I have content that I like to read, and time outside to do so.

>read in a train
>read in public transportation
>read when there is nothing to do outside

been doing that quite a lot as well. Travel from and to work...

beta cuck

It's the "for attention" part

>Be me, college
>Be generally anti-social except to roommates for last two years
>Graduate, see everyone celebrating with their friends while I am alone
>Swear I will never let this feeling happen again
>Begin to research body posture, voice tone, speaking patterns, hand gestures
>Get new job, since no one knows me I can be whoever I want and they will assume that is who I am naturally
>Constant power poses, seated and standing
>Constant awareness of how my hands are placed, always in natural or powerful positions while still looking calm
>Force myself to speak with stuttering or saying uh/um, always in deepest voice that still sounds natural
>If it is a topic that I have an inkling of doubt about, pause before speaking to collect thoughts, ensuring that facial expression does not look confused but only thoughtful or amused
>People begin to ask for my help where they would have asked a senior
>Co-workers begin to invite me out after work
>If interested, I accept
>If not, I decline and honestly tell them that I am not interested in their suggestion
>Watch them stutter, even apologize for suggesting it, then ask for my preference

you sound bitter and projective.

you sound like a sociopath l m a o